Barry and others these are the details that I have on this Robert Boyd R1 Robert Boyd, b / /1734 (town, Co. Down, Ireland), d 29/10/1804, bu Little Britain churchyard, New Windsor, Co., NY, m / /176x (Church, New Windsor), Miss Smith, dau of and (nee ) Smith, b / /173x ( ), d / /17xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- m 2ndly / /176x (church, etc), Eleanor Cockle, dau of John and Ruth ) Cockle, b / /174x ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- - Details? The Will below would suggest that Robert Boyd, married Elinor Cockle and had four children by him. While the 1990 DAR Patriot Index shows this Robert Boyd married to “Robert, Jr.: b 1734 IR d 10-29-1804 NY m --- Smith PS NY”[USA dates format]. While W. P. Boyd in his 1912 book outling this family only mentions the wife Miss Smith. So do we have two Robert Boyd’s or one that married twice? If so, which was the first and second wife? - He erected the iron and scythe works situated upon the creek, one mile below Newburgh. He inherited the estate of his uncle Samuel (Q1) and moved to New York city in 1800, where he held the office of sheriff. On p 361 it says his family consisted of six children, but on p 362 it has the following “the other children of Robert we have no record of.” This last comment suggests additional children who might have died young and therefore disregarded by the person who passed the information onto W. P. Boyd. >From an Email message from Chris Tami, 128 Cornell Ave., Rahway, NJ 07065 USA [email protected] on 23 October 1998 it has the following details:- Abstracts of Wills, Vol XIII, 1784-1786 Page 261.-- In the name of God, Amen. I, JOHN COCKLE, of Jamaica, Queens County, yeoman, being far advanced in years. I give to Ruth, my dearly beloved wife, my dwelling house and lot of land in the Townspot of Jamaica where I now live for her life, the use of my furniture and the interest of œ500. To my son, Thomas Cockle, born in Nothingham in old England, the sum of 5 shillings. To my daughter Elinor, wife of Robert Boyd, of New Windsor, Ulster County, a bond of œ400 which I have against her husband. Whereas I have above given my wife the interest of œ500 for life, I dispose of the same as follows after her death: œ25 to John, Joseph, Susannah, Ruth and Elinor Cockle, children of my son, John Cockle, deceased, equally divided among them, the remainder thereof to my grandchildren, children of my daughter, Elinor Boyd, namely, Samuel, Ruth, John and Jennet, equally divided among them when they arrive at lawful age, unless my wife live till that time when the same shall be paid them within one year of her death; and if my wife die before they arrive at lawful age then my daughter Elinor shall have the interest of the money till they arrive at lawful age. And the œ25 given to the children of my son John, shall be kept at interest till they arrive at lawful age. After the death of my wife I empower my executors to sell all my real and personal estate and the money therefrom I bequeath to Elinor Boyd. I make my wife Ruth and son-in-law, Robert Boyd, and Nicholas Smith, of Jamaica, executors. Dated March 29, 1777. Witnesses, Benjn Smith, William Lewis, Robert Hinchman. Proved, May 26, 1784, Queens County. Confirmed, October 18, 1784, New York. Chris Tami, of Rahway, NJ in 1998 also sent me this DAR application I have a copy of a DAR application for my G-G-Grandmother's sister which shows the following info: Margaret Boyd Ellis Van Note Swan 880 West Market St. Lima Ohio Descendant of Robert Boyd, Jr Member of Committee of Safety I Margaret B. Ellis Van Note being of the age of eighteen years and upward hereby apply for membership in the Society by right of lineal descent in the following line from Robert Boyd, Jr who was born in Co. Down, Ireland 1734 and died in New York City, NY on the 29th day of October, 1804 and who served in the War of the Revolution. I was born in Town of Titusville State of Pennsylvania 1. I am the daughter of Louis Faugeres Ellis born 7-17-1843 died 1-22-1909 and his 1st wife Margaret Boyd born 10-29-1843 died 5-24-1881 married 4-14-1864. 2. The said Margaret Boyd was the daughter of John Boyd born bef. 1809 died 1-23-1877 and his wife Anna Helen Gregg Roome born 6-8-1807 died ---- married 11-28-1829. 3. The said John Boyd was the son of Samuel Boyd born --- died 3-20-1839 and his 1st wife Eliza Pearson born bef 1773 died --- married 2-16-1793. 4. The said Samuel Boyd was the son of Robert Boyd, Jr born 1734 died 10-29-1804 and his wife ----- Smith. 5. The said Robert Boyd, Jr was the son of Robert Boyd Sr. And he, the said Robert Boyd, Jr is the ancestor who assisted in establishing American Independence, while acting in the capacity of a member of the Committee of Safety, Ulster Co. New York. My ancestor's services in assisting in the establishment of American Independence during the War of the Revolution were as follows: Robert Boyd Jr: appears as a member of the Committee of Safety of Ulster County New York for the year 1777. Reference - New York in the Revolutions Sup. 27-64-147 Robert Boyd, Jr: From a record of the Provincial Congress dated June 12, 1775 a contract is given to Robert Boyd to make 1000 good muskets and another dated Feb 28, 1776. History Orange Co. NY p 620. (This entry has a line through it on the application). Robert Boyd Jr: "In 1777 The Committee of Safety of the precinct were Samuel Brewster, Robert Boyd Jr" and seven others. History Orange Co NY p 620. (This entry has a line through it on the application). Give below a reference, by volume and page, to the documentary or other authority upon which you found your record. New York in the Revolutions Sup 27-64-147 History of Orange Co NY (Eager) p 620 History of Boyd Family by W.P. Boyd 1884 and 1912 p. 360 Roome Genealogy no. 867 My Revolutionary ancestor was married at New Windsor, Orange Co, NY on the 16th day of ------. Children: Names Dates of Birth To Whom Married Samuel Eliza Pearson John Janet Agnes Dr Baltus Van Kleck Elias Unmarried George(Episcopal Minister at Philadelphia) While in a Email to me on 4 December 2013, Melanie Gustin of CT. provided me a family tree (see 3-139B.doc) which said:- “R1 Robert Boyd Jr. ** b. 2 November 1734, Ballyhalbert, County Down, Ireland d. 29 October 1804, New Windsor, NY bu. Little Britain Cemetery, New Windsor, NY Arrival in NYC from Belfast, fall 1753 Occupation: owner of smithy c 1760 Member of Committee of Safety during Revolutionary War Occupation: sheriff of NYC c 1800 m. Eleanor Cockle date ____, location ____, parents: John and Ruth Cockle” I am not sure if there is more information on this Robert Boyd in the book History of the Boyd family and descendants, with historical sketches of the ancient family of Boyd's in Scotland from the year 1200, and those of Ireland from the year 1680, with records of their descendants in Kent, New Windsor, Middletown and Salem, N. Y., Boston, Mass., Northumberland County, Pa., and sketches of those from the southern and western states from 1740 to 1912. By William P. Boyd ... Rochester, N. Y., John P. Smith printing company, 1912, pp 355-419. Hope that this help you and others Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS -----Original Message----- From: Barry Boyd Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 12:26 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOYD] Robert Boyd (1734-1804) painting at Brooklyn Museum, NYC, NY For those who have internet: https://www.brooklynmuseum.org/opencollection/objects/1057/Robert_Boyd There appear to be no copyright restrictions. He may have been among those American inventors who developed "rifling". And a great contributor to the cause. The portrait kind of looks like you, Mike. I want to know more about this fellow. Barry Dallas