Colin Brooks can you remember what religion the above two Churches were. I think that they were both Church of Ireland? Can you find your note book form 2007 in which you copied the Boyd/Kennedy Grave at Dunluce? There seems to be a NUMBER OF BOYD BRANCHES in Ireland ( that appear to have come form Scotland) that were Church of Ireland or Church of England in Scotland that we need to identify. I will have to do some research and start a list to post to the Boyd list so that others can add to it. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS
Mike Would this include Andrew Boyd from Ballymoney Antrim Daryl Jamieson [email protected] 401-413-2167 -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> To: BOYD-L <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:47 pm Subject: [BOYD] Churches at Dunlucce and Derrykeighan, CountyAntrim Colin Brooks can you remember what religion the above two Churches were. I think that they were both Church of Ireland? Can you find your note book form 2007 in which you copied the Boyd/Kennedy Grave at Dunluce? There seems to be a NUMBER OF BOYD BRANCHES in Ireland ( that appear to have come form Scotland) that were Church of Ireland or Church of England in Scotland that we need to identify. I will have to do some research and start a list to post to the Boyd list so that others can add to it. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS ==================== House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to http://www.clanboyd.org for more information ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at [email protected] ==================== Remember to trim your message before hitting send! Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. ==================== This list is set for replies to go to the list address [email protected] not just the author of the post. ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd ==================== Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! _________________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2014 will be held in conjunction with the St. Andrews Society of Detroit's Highland Games at Livonia, Michigan, USA. The date is to be confirmed by the venue, however, this year's event (2013) is the first weekend in August. Please plan on attending! Write [email protected] if you would be interested in helping to plan it. ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2013 was a great success. It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, Memorial Day Weekend 2013. _______________________________________________________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin McLachlan, Editor at [email protected] ==================== Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org ==================== For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml **************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Daryl I am not sure. There are quite a number of both C of I and Presbyterian Churches in Ballymoney. It has only been in the last few weeks that I have begun to think of those Boyd Branches that might not be Presbyterian but Church of Ireland. The Boyds would have been Catholic in Scotland until the 5th Lord Boyd, Robert Boyd. Although he was a "Councillor" to Mary Queen of Scots during period of imprisonment in England and 30 named Boyds fought for her at Langside in 1568, I have found a source that said that he was a Protestant and had visited Knox the night before Knox died. It seemed that from this point that the Heads of the Clan became strong Presbyterians but we seem to have "several" Branches that were other religions such as Church of Ireland/England, Quaker, and Huguenot. So it is the origins of each of these three groups that we need to look at and where they might have come from, and which family branches formed of these groups. I will try to make a start to a list this week. Thank you Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Daryl Black Eagle Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2013 1:51 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOYD] Churches at Dunlucce and Derrykeighan, CountyAntrim Mike Would this include Andrew Boyd from Ballymoney Antrim Daryl Jamieson [email protected] 401-413-2167 -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> To: BOYD-L <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Dec 29, 2013 6:47 pm Subject: [BOYD] Churches at Dunlucce and Derrykeighan, CountyAntrim Colin Brooks can you remember what religion the above two Churches were. I think that they were both Church of Ireland? Can you find your note book form 2007 in which you copied the Boyd/Kennedy Grave at Dunluce? There seems to be a NUMBER OF BOYD BRANCHES in Ireland ( that appear to have come form Scotland) that were Church of Ireland or Church of England in Scotland that we need to identify. I will have to do some research and start a list to post to the Boyd list so that others can add to it. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS ==================== House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to http://www.clanboyd.org for more information ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at [email protected] ==================== Remember to trim your message before hitting send! Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. ==================== This list is set for replies to go to the list address [email protected] not just the author of the post. ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? 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Mike, There is no Kennedy at the Dunluce cemetery that I can find. There is the Kar/Kerr and Boyd connection. maybe that is a Derrykeighan tombstone. (I am in Florida and my books are in Pennsylvania) Your question as to religion is unfortunately not an easy answer. Like most parish churches in Northern Ireland, you can not dictate a specific religion without a specific time frame. The church connected to that old Dunluce graveyard near the castle (that we visited) has been Catholic, Presbyterian, Church of Ireland. A quick splash of Covenanter can also be found pre-1772 when it's pastor moved on to SC. History proves (in Ulster) that one family and even one Pastor can be members of the Church of Ireland AND Presbyterian all within one lifetime. Our Boyd's are one of those specific families. So I will say that from settlement until post 1641, both churches were Presbyterian. After 1641 they became "official" Church of Ireland locations. However (and it's huge for these people) the minister was Presbyterian! And they stayed that way until late 1690s/early 1700 when they had governmental approval to reestablish Presbyterian churches. This is when they split by the building of separate churches. This is also the time that the functional elements of the old churches began to literally decay. Parish's as geographical locations are relatively fixed, old buildings fall apart and few from the 1600's were "rebuilt". A new church was always a better option. By the 1800's both parishes had separate Cof I, Presb. , and RC churches and that has stayed the course. With freedom of choice came freedom of options. Until 1720s, you had neither in Ulster, unless you lived near to a large population (think Coleraine, Londonderry, Antrim, Belfast, Ballymoney etc.). Burials also did NOT prove your religious choice. Mixed faith burials occurred all over Ulster until the 1800's. It was common and accepted. Regardless of the Genealogy Fact that you follow ancestors religion choices to determine family lines (which is absolutely legitimate); in ULSTER during the 1600's and most of the 1700's, there is NO proof that a persons choice of church worship indicates his direct ancestral line. There is absolute proof, that MANY Boyds and there wives moved amongst the Protestant religions, based on their personal choice more then a family choice. Some even switched in their lifetimes from one to another and back again. All major Protestant religions in Ulster during this time frame have significant Boyd membership and even leadership- Presbyterian; Quaker; Church of Ireland; Covenanter. Colin Brooks The 1718 Project New Port Richey, FL On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 6:45 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Colin Brooks can you remember what religion the above two Churches were. > I think that they were both Church of Ireland? > > Can you find your note book form 2007 in which you copied the > Boyd/Kennedy Grave at Dunluce? > > There seems to be a NUMBER OF BOYD BRANCHES in Ireland ( that appear to > have come form Scotland) that were Church of Ireland or Church of England > in Scotland that we need to identify. I will have to do some research and > start a list to post to the Boyd list so that others can add to it. > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > > > > ==================== > House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary > Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to > http://www.clanboyd.org for more information > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to > keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. > Write me off list at [email protected] > ==================== > > Remember to trim your message before hitting send! > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > > ==================== > This list is set for replies to go to the list address [email protected] just the author of the post. > ==================== > > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe > mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? 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It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in > conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, Memorial > Day Weekend 2013. > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd > Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The > Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin > McLachlan, Editor at [email protected] > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see > http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >