During my visit to Philadelphia in June 2013 I found this series of Books Cherokee By Blood, Records of Eastern Cherokee Ancestry in the U. S. Court of Claims, 1906-1910, Volume 1, Applications 1 to 1550, Jerry Wright Jordon, There were about 10 or so volumes that I went through looking for Boyd entries and found a number. However, they gave only parents and children but nothing that showed their link back to a Boyd family. As you will notice this material is for the “Eastern Cherokee”, so my mind asks if there is an “WESTERN CHEROKEE” nation.? (Being any uninformed outsider) Over the last 15 years that I have been on the Boyd list, I have seen a number of claims that family say their ancestor was a Cherokee Indian. So are their other reference Books that members need to consult? I can’t recall any individual Boyd family histories that make any claims. So was this covered up a 100 years ago, when people started to write up their families? We know that quite a large number of (European) Boyd families moved into Virginia, North and South Carolina’s, Georgia, Tennessee and Kentucky from the early 1700’s to the late 1700’s and so have taken an Indian spouse. So can we develop a list of reference books on the Cherokee nation that future Boyd researchers could use when they find out that GGGG grandfather/mother was a Cherokee Indian. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS

Mike, This is a hot button topic. I live on a reservation in Mississippi, my husband is Choctaw, and there is a joke amongst the Native Americans about people that claim to be Cherokee, people making this claim usually say that their great grandmother was a Cherokee princess. Impossible as there was no royalty in the tribes. In order to be "valid", one must have an ancestor on the Federal Rolls, like the Dawes Rolls, and paperwork in order to trace back to this ancestor. Just because someone doesn't have paperwork doesn't necessarily mean they don't have Cherokee heritage, but it does mean they won't be able to enroll in the tribe. These are the three federally recognized Cherokee Nations: The Cherokee Nation, in Tahlequah, OK, is the largest of the three, The United Keetoowah Band of Cherokee Indians is also in Tahlequah and the third one is the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, in Cherokee, North Carolina. I have a list of Boyds attempting to enroll but don't have it handy. I believe they were all rejected. Not a waste, however, as valuable genealogical information was collected at the time of application, such as, siblings, parents, etc. Dy On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > During my visit to Philadelphia in June 2013 I found this series of Books > > Cherokee By Blood, Records of Eastern Cherokee Ancestry in the U. S. Court > of Claims, 1906-1910, Volume 1, Applications 1 to 1550, Jerry Wright Jordon, > > There were about 10 or so volumes that I went through looking for Boyd > entries and found a number. However, they gave only parents and children > but nothing that showed their link back to a Boyd family. > > As you will notice this material is for the "Eastern Cherokee", so my mind > asks if there is an "WESTERN CHEROKEE" nation.? (Being any uninformed > outsider) > > Over the last 15 years that I have been on the Boyd list, I have seen a > number of claims that family say their ancestor was a Cherokee Indian. So > are their other reference Books that members need to consult? > > I can't recall any individual Boyd family histories that make any claims. > So was this covered up a 100 years ago, when people started to write up > their families? > > We know that quite a large number of (European) Boyd families moved into > Virginia, North and South Carolina's, Georgia, Tennessee and Kentucky from > the early 1700's to the late 1700's and so have taken an Indian spouse. > > So can we develop a list of reference books on the Cherokee nation that > future Boyd researchers could use when they find out that GGGG > grandfather/mother was a Cherokee Indian. > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > > > > ==================== > House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary > Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to > http://www.clanboyd.org for more information > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? 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Dy, If you have a list of Boyds (when it IS handy!) please share it with us. I have that Cherokee N. C. story too without the "Princess" part! My Boyds moved through S.C., Georgia and into Alabama. If you need help with your list, let me know--I would be happy to help if I can. Darlene Amark On 2/13/2014 11:06 PM, Dy wrote: > Mike, > > This is a hot button topic. I live on a reservation in Mississippi, my > husband is Choctaw, and there is a joke amongst the Native Americans about > people that claim to be Cherokee, people making this claim usually say that > their great grandmother was a Cherokee princess. Impossible as there was no > royalty in the tribes. In order to be "valid", one must have an ancestor on > the Federal Rolls, like the Dawes Rolls, and paperwork in order to trace > back to this ancestor. Just because someone doesn't have paperwork doesn't > necessarily mean they don't have Cherokee heritage, but it does mean they > won't be able to enroll in the tribe. > These are the three federally recognized Cherokee Nations: The Cherokee > Nation, in Tahlequah, OK, is the largest of the three, The United Keetoowah > Band of Cherokee Indians is also in Tahlequah and the third one is the > Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians, in Cherokee, North Carolina. > I have a list of Boyds attempting to enroll but don't have it handy. I > believe they were all rejected. Not a waste, however, as valuable > genealogical information was collected at the time of application, such as, > siblings, parents, etc. > > Dy > > > > On Thu, Feb 13, 2014 at 4:47 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > >> During my visit to Philadelphia in June 2013 I found this series of Books >> >> Cherokee By Blood, Records of Eastern Cherokee Ancestry in the U. S. Court >> of Claims, 1906-1910, Volume 1, Applications 1 to 1550, Jerry Wright Jordon, >> >> There were about 10 or so volumes that I went through looking for Boyd >> entries and found a number. However, they gave only parents and children >> but nothing that showed their link back to a Boyd family. >> >> As you will notice this material is for the "Eastern Cherokee", so my mind >> asks if there is an "WESTERN CHEROKEE" nation.? (Being any uninformed >> outsider) >> >> Over the last 15 years that I have been on the Boyd list, I have seen a >> number of claims that family say their ancestor was a Cherokee Indian. So >> are their other reference Books that members need to consult? >> >> I can't recall any individual Boyd family histories that make any claims. >> So was this covered up a 100 years ago, when people started to write up >> their families? >> >> We know that quite a large number of (European) Boyd families moved into >> Virginia, North and South Carolina's, Georgia, Tennessee and Kentucky from >> the early 1700's to the late 1700's and so have taken an Indian spouse. >> >> So can we develop a list of reference books on the Cherokee nation that >> future Boyd researchers could use when they find out that GGGG >> grandfather/mother was a Cherokee Indian. >> >> Thank you >> >> Mike Boyd >> Historical Committee, HBS >> >> >> >> >> ==================== >> House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary >> Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to >> http://www.clanboyd.org for more information >> ==================== >> Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to >> keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. >> Write me off list at [email protected] >> ==================== >> >> Remember to trim your message before hitting send! >> Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. >> >> ==================== >> This list is set for replies to go to the list address [email protected] just the author of the post. >> ==================== >> >> Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe >> mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: >> http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd >> >> ==================== >> Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk >> for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ >> Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! >> >> _________________________________________ >> House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of >> the Clan 2014 will be held in conjunction with the St. Andrews Society of >> Detroit's Highland Games at Livonia, Michigan, USA. The date is to be >> confirmed by the venue, however, this year's event (2013) is the first >> weekend in August. Please plan on attending! >> >> Write [email protected] if you would be interested in helping to plan it. >> ______________________________________ >> House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of >> the Clan 2013 was a great success. It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in >> conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, Memorial >> Day Weekend 2013. >> >> _______________________________________________________________________________ >> Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd >> Society! >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 >> ______________________________________ >> House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The >> Society would not be what it is without you! >> ______________________________________ >> >> Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin >> McLachlan, Editor at [email protected] >> >> ==================== >> Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org >> ==================== >> For Officers and other Contacts, see >> http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml >> >> **************************** >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ==================== > House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to http://www.clanboyd.org for more information > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. > Write me off list at [email protected] > ==================== > > Remember to trim your message before hitting send! > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > > ==================== > This list is set for replies to go to the list address [email protected] not just the author of the post. > ==================== > > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > > _________________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2014 will be held in conjunction with the St. Andrews Society of Detroit's Highland Games at Livonia, Michigan, USA. The date is to be confirmed by the venue, however, this year's event (2013) is the first weekend in August. Please plan on attending! > > Write [email protected] if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2013 was a great success. It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, Memorial Day Weekend 2013. > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin McLachlan, Editor at [email protected] > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >