Thank you Mike, I have gone to RI Vital Records, nothing no marriage record or birth record for the son of Silas Nicholas Hefflon/Hefflin or Polly Knapp in 1804.  Searched Irish records got one reply that Hefflin is a name in Wales history.  Found no more, searched ship records for 1772 through 1800 nothing.  Searched Revolutionary War records and Pension records found three Knapps served from RI but am beginning to think more and more they were eastern CT or southeaster Massachusetts.  I went to NH Genealogical records and found nothing did some searchs in Massachusetts still more to do but the last two things I was told to do have been impossible because of my husband's strokes I am unable to go look at Newport Historical records and the church records in RI personally. Thanks for suggestions. Harriet On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 10:47 AM, Daryl Black Eagle <[email protected]> wrote: Hello I am in RI and my descendant's were related to Andrew Boyd of Kent County East Greenwich RI. I found Andrew Boyd to be born in Antrim County  Ballymoney Ireland in 1731 in East Greenwich Town records. I have not heard that name in my family but I will look further. Daryl Jamieson [email protected] 401-413-2167 -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> To: BOYD-L <[email protected]> Sent: Mon, Jan 27, 2014 1:14 am Subject: [BOYD] Fw: I have tried most American & Rootsweb sites From: Mike Boyd Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 9:36 AM To: Harriet E. Cady ; Subject: Re: I have tried most American & Rootsweb sites Harriet I assume that you have looked at both the 1790 Census and the 1810 and even the 1810 Census for these States? b)    Could they have married in RI (?) and then moved shortly afterwards to VT? C)    Is there any indication where in Ireland Silas Hefflon was born?  This might give you an idea if there was a famine or other reasons for the migration d)    Would the County Histories in both RI and VT help give you background information on the migration paterns of that period – such as if the Irish were moving or the Presbyterian, etc e)    I notice from my map that a there is a lake on the western side of Franklin County, VT.  So is this a natural or man made like.  If so, could they have gone to Church  in New York State? f)    In the 1790 US Census for RI there are only three Boyd entries BOYD,Andrew                RI Co:Kent                Twp:East Greenwich BOYD,James                RI Co:Providence                Twp:Johnstown BOYD,Samuel                RI Co:Providence                Twp:Providence So did the Hefflon and Boyd’s come from  either of these two counties?  I think that this the first time that I have hear of Varnum Boyd Hope that this will help you and others will have additional questions that may help you find them \ Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society From: Harriet E. Cady Sent: Monday, January 27, 2014 5:00 AM To: Genealogy Quebec ; Franklin Vermont Genealgy ; Genealogy Vermont ; Mike Boyd ; [email protected] ; Peter Lodge ; Janice Boyko ; Genealogy NE Irish ; Genealogy ; New England Genealogical Society ; Genealogy New England ; Tony Worsley ; Demi Morgan Subject: I have tried most American & Rootsweb sites I have an ancestor, fifth great grandfather, SILAS HEFFLON and his wife POLLY KNAPP who married about 1804 supposedly Rhode Island.  Silas Hefflon says on his children's birth certificates in VT that he was born in Ireland.  If I take his gravestone information he was born in Ireland March 19, 1782. Polly Knapp also says born RI on children's birth records in Vermont. Some of their 10 children's records are in VT and some are in Dunham, Quebec about six miles from the farm they owned in Franklin, VT They had son Hiram born RI following information "Fanny, b. Apr. 28, 1805, Surry, NH, d. Keene Jan.14, 1879, m. Apr. 5, 1829 Hiram Hefflon, b. RI Oct. 22, 1804 amd d/ Dec. 1874 @ Lowell, MI., son of Silas N. & Polly (Knapp) Hefflon. of RI & Franklin, VT They resided in Franklin, VT, &  Surry, Gilsum & Chesterfield, NH" Apparently he died in Michigan and so we should be able to find his death certificate. This says he was born in 1804 in Rhode Island but I have gone to Rhode Island Archives and they don't have the record.  The archivist says they didn't start reporting births and marriages till 1845. I still think I need to find it in church records in CT. He was brother to Jane Hefflon BOYD who was married to Varnum Boyd the parents of Eva BOYD Quinn my grandmother. QUESTION:  How do I find records of Silas Nicholas Hefflons birth, parents and marriage and maybe even when he came to America from Ireland? QUESTION:  How do I find Polly Knapp,s parents birth, marriage, etc. I visited Old Saybrook, CT and found there was a Harriet Hefflon there on a farm in 1853 so believe I may really find that the Hefflon's were in CT which was a part of RI in the 1700's.  But I have gone to archives in the states of RI and CT.  The only part I haven't checked are old Presbyterian Church records which  another Question, Did northern VT have any near Franklin?  and where would I find their records in CT and RI? Another clue is that the name Sessions Hefflon is at the Franklin cemetery graves and one of their sons was named Sessions. Harriet E. 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