Hi everyone, I've been a member of this list for a couple of years and anxiously await each new thread hoping to recognize my Boyd names. Unfortunately it never happens. Now, through DNA testing on Ancestry and on GEDmatch I've been told I have a connection to a circle of people all descended from Samuel Boyd (1783 South Carolina) son of John (1740 Ballymena, Antrim Ireland). Still, after checking the trees of those people I find no record of my Jane Boyd (born 1853 Greenock Scotland) daughter of William Boyd (born about 1825 Antrim Ireland) son of Thomas Boyd (a labor/butcher who was deceased before 1857). I believe my research because I have located the following documents: William Boyd's 2 marriages and death record. (His death record shows a mother named Margaret McNeil however his 2nd marriage shows a different mother-Sarah McAlister) All other information matches including the street address in Greenock, Scotland and his father Thomas Boyd as well as both of his wives. Jane Boyd’s marriage. This shows William as her father and his first wife Jane Kane as her mother. I have never found her birth record. Any suggestions? Does anyone know if maybe Thomas (a butcher) could be a middle or nickname? Does it seem likely that a family would split up and have some stay in Ireland/Scotland while everyone else goes to Southern United States? Other than the connection through DNA I have no family history in Southern United States. This brick wall seems impossible :-( Susan Sent from my iPhone Susan Hemsley Cicala☎

A headache indeed :) Ok so let me get this straight. Your ancestor line is Jane Boyd 1853 to William Boyd c1825 to Thomas Boyd c.1795. Where did William the father get married? So splitting families is extremely normal if not typical. "Usually" parents stay with 1 or 2 children. All the others emigrate. Scotland as a location for Jane's birth is most likely a work situation for her father. Happened all the time. Then you have a DNA link to John Boyd 1740 of Ballymena, County Antrim, Ireland. Based on age, Thomas (c.1795) is likely a grandson or nephew of John of Ballymena. So researching John's sons and ALL his brothers would be the DNA matching. Remember the split can occur up the ancestor line, and the DNA still keep most of the matches. I would still focus my effort on Ballymena Boyd's and any proceeding John. Robert Boyd is Ruling Elder of the Presbyterian church in Ballymena in 1703. John Boyd left the Quaker meeting house in Ballymoney parish from Ballynacree townland and moved to Pennsylvania circa 1720s John Boyd is in Ballymena Town and Estate in the 1669 Hearth Money Rolls maybe you know this, but it seems you have legit family locations from which to focus your search. Colin Brooks The 1718 Project

Good morning Colin, Colin I have come to deadlock on my Boyd line and after reading your email, which also came to me, I am now at a complete loss as to what I am researching. It would seem as if we are also part of the same family albeit well separated but the genes are there and so I am coming to you thinking that just maybe you can assist me in filling in the gaps. Genealogy is not my strong point as I quickly become confused and when I can't get any further I switch off for a long time BUT I am now researching again. Colin, what I have is basic and that is: William and Thomas Boyd settled in Swansea NSW and William would be my great grandfather. My grandmother, a daughter of William was Maud Gertrude Boyd. I do know that the aforesaid Maud Boyd came from this family in Swansea and making William Boyd my great grandfather. What I am now wondering is there a connection between us, albeit very long distant, and therefore maybe we should or shouldn't connect our trees ??? If I can be of assistance to you in this regard: As stated above William Boyd was my great grandfather and his daughter Maud ( William's daughter ), my grandmother. The bottom line of all of this Colin is that I am getting nowhere with the research apart from what I have, ie William and Thomas Boyd arrived in lake Macquarie after moving up from the central coast in about ???. ( I did know but now unsure ). If I can be of more assistance to you the let me know. Are you a local as in Lake Macquarie ??? ( just curious ). Cheers, Warren Stoddart Mannering Park Lake Macquarie On 19/11/2015, at 11:07 AM, Colin Brooks via wrote: > A headache indeed :) Ok so let me get this straight. Your ancestor > line is Jane Boyd 1853 to William Boyd c1825 to Thomas Boyd c.1795. > Where did William the father get married? > So splitting families is extremely normal if not typical. > "Usually" parents stay with 1 or 2 children. All the others emigrate. > Scotland as a location for Jane's birth is most likely a work > situation for her father. Happened all the time. > > Then you have a DNA link to John Boyd 1740 of Ballymena, County > Antrim, Ireland. Based on age, Thomas (c.1795) is likely a grandson or > nephew of John of Ballymena. So researching John's sons and ALL his > brothers would be the DNA matching. Remember the split can occur up > the ancestor line, and the DNA still keep most of the matches. I would > still focus my effort on Ballymena Boyd's and any proceeding John. > > Robert Boyd is Ruling Elder of the Presbyterian church in Ballymena in 1703. > John Boyd left the Quaker meeting house in Ballymoney parish from > Ballynacree townland and moved to Pennsylvania circa 1720s > John Boyd is in Ballymena Town and Estate in the 1669 Hearth Money Rolls > > maybe you know this, but it seems you have legit family locations from > which to focus your search. > > Colin Brooks > The 1718 Project > ==================== > *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** > > > Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. > > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > ====================================== > > > > {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml }}}}}}}} > > > > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games & Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015 Please plan on attending! > > Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > > ______________________________________ > > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! > http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml > > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. 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C:\\CB15006 107 Spurs Drive Wellington Point QLD 4160 Brisbane Australia 20 November 2015 Dear Judy Thank you for your Email of 18 November 2015 to the Boyd net list concerning your Jane Boyd (born 1853 in Greenock, Scotland) who was daughter of William Boyd (born about 1825 Antrim, Ireland) son of Thomas Boyd and whose DNA matches the family of John Boyd in Chapter 4/244. If I do not write to down in a letter I will quickly forget what I have told you. I am still clearing Emails that came in during my 6 weeks overseas in September & October and sorting out my papers from the trip as well. One of my roles as Chairman of the Historical Committee of the House of Boyd Society is to try to find Boyd families wherever they are in the World and include them in Clan Boyd of Scotland. This is an effort to build a Clan Boyd Pyramid of its descendants from pre 1,200. It will also add to the over 770 Boyd families that I have collected so far and make it much easier to make connections. During my five recent trips to Britain and the USA, I have found a further two thousand five hundred plus of new Boyd families but I have not had time to process these data into family trees yet. (i) You will have already got my reply to the whole Boyd list about your connection to John Boyd of Union county, SC and who came from Ballymena, County Antrim, Ireland. So I will not need to cover those issues. (ii) Seeing your family goes back to Ballymena, County Antrim, Ireland, it would be well worth joining both Antrim Net lists at rootsweb.com - IRL-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com and NIR-ANTRIM@rootsweb.com And seeing the family moved to Greenock, Renfrewshire, I would suggest that you also join the Renfrewshire net list as well to get information and sources to find information on this family. (iii) I have the family of John Boyd and Jane Bernardoe of Bushy Creek, Union District, SC, outlined in Family Chapter 2/244 in FILE W46588GJ.doc starting on page 2. (iv) I have always though Jane‘s family might have been Huguenot, so they may have had some involvement with the Irish Linen trade in Ballymena area, so the Bernardoe name might be another name to ask about on these Antrim lists. Now to the Family of Thomas Boyd of Ballymena (v) Have you been in contact with both the Libraries at Greenock and Paisley? I am not sure of the status of the Greenock Library, but I have been to the Local Studies section of the Paisley Library a few times (which I thought covered all family tree work for Renfrewshire, but I think that I also saw someone mention recently that Greenock as also having a Local studies section. (vi) So do you know when William Boyd came to Greenock? This would allow you to look at the 1851 Census or the 1841 Census for Scotland. (vii) So how do you know that Jane Boyd was born in Greenock, Renfrewshire in 1853? And did William Boyd have any children born in 1855, the first year of official records? I understand that there is quite a bit of details about the family for those born in that year. I am thinking that William Boyd may not have been living in Greenock in 1853 but somewhere else in Scotland. Or was it just the case that the family were too poor in 1853 to have her Baptised? viii) Oh, could his wife have done home to mother to have Jane? If so, where might his wife’s family have been living in 1853? ix) Either Paisley or Greenock Libraries should be able to provide you with a list of Thomas Boyd’s who are buried in Greenock Cemeteries before 1857. They might have other members of this family as well buried in Greenock. (x) What other Boyd connection have you got through this DNA testing? And how far back can these people take their Boyd family tree? I think that is all I can provide you with at present. I have written up what you have initially provided in your Email to the Boyd net list into Chapter 18/913 in FILE W18658UC.doc, which starts on my page 9 (A4 page size). This is the second Volume of County Antrim Boyd families in Clan Boyd of Scotland. I would like to get what additional information you might have on this family please. With you as the source of these details (or other family members). If you can do the changes in a different colour font, that would help me making notes and to list your primary sources. It will allow me to build onto it in the future. I would contribute that information to you, so any future researchers can contact you about it. Clan Boyd of Scotland is a collection of Boyd families in a effort to build a pyramid of the Clan. The bases of these family chapters is to show a families origins; include the known details; sources of the information; any books/publications on the family and list known researchers or possible researchers (type of family Research Group). The third Edition of I think at present I only have 2 or 3 such families, so I might leave that task to someone else and just collect Boyd families. The information I would ideally like to be able to include are full names (including common name); date and place of birth, death and marriage (incl. church); place of burial; to whom married; spouses parents, children; and where they lived. This format also allows for a small history to be included on each individual. The initial draft need not have all this information and it is more important to list children and other descendants etc. The best way is to send it to me electronically as I am not the world's fastest typist. When you send that, I could then type it up and send it back to you to ensure that I have it correctly layout. It is on Word processing in Word for Windows 2 so allows you to add what you like. Depending on your objective, it can be used as a research tool to record what you have done to find information about an individual; as an appendix to a family history or as I am doing just a straight genealogy and recording who were members of the Clan. My aim as said above is to build a pyramid of the Clan, which will make it much easier for people to fit their family into the Clan. I think the above details for each Boyd descendant will help build the Clan Pyramid. I have filled up Volumes 1-10 with draft Boyd families. I am currently working on several other Volumes for Counties in Ireland, Shires in Scotland and various States in the USA. I would like to get your full postal address please, so I can pass on your name to others when I think I might get an match. Are you aware of any other Boyd researchers/families who I might be able to include on my researcher's list as well please. The details I would like to include here are :- NAME OF RESEARCHER; ADDRESS; EARLIEST KNOWN DATE; EARLIEST KNOWN LOCATION; AND EARLIEST KNOWN NAME; Feel free to pass on my name to anyone you might come across who have a Boyd in their family tree, so I can add their Boyd or Boyd descendants to the Clan Boyd Pyramid. I take it from your Email address that you are an employee of rootsweb.com? The House of Boyd Society has been going since 1988. The House of Boyd society has our own:- - surname Net Group at BOYD@rootsweb.com - quarterly Newsletter called Dean Road (contact the editor - editor@clanboyd.org) - They are always searching for material - queries, photos or short articles - to go in future issues) - DNA Project and discussion group boyd-dna@rootsweb.com - the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org - Historical Committee - family database - www.facebook.com group - for members only To develop your family tree, I would also strongly recommend that you post to the BOYD-L@rootsweb.com net list, so you can advertise your Boyd Branch. This can be about telling the list more about your Boyds; asking for help to find his parent and or sibling, etc It is best to put only one idea or request in each message. The messages that go to the list are also kept in the archives, so it means that other people can look back and see if anyone is researcher their ancestor. I assume that your maiden name was Boyd, so you should have some male Boyd to have a DNA test done. They may like to get the 67-marker DNA test to see if your male Boyds origins come from. I understand that if you go this website you can get the details of who to go about getting the test done - http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Scottish-Clans Hopefully this will “show” the linkage and the number of generations back there is a common link. This may help to find other clusters of Boyd families that are connected to you. Hopefully these connections can go back further than 1740. I look forward to hearing from you in the future, so we can add your family branch to our Clan Boyd Pyramid. Kind regards Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee, HBS Susan Hemsley Cicala USA boyd@rootsweb.com Incl: W46588GJ.doc

Hi Susan, Susaan an email from you has come me here on the Central Coast NSW re the Boyd families. I do not know if I am any assistance to you On 18/11/2015, at 9:09 AM, Susan Cicala via wrote: > Hi everyone, > I've been a member of this list for a couple of years and anxiously await each new thread hoping to recognise my Boyd names. Unfortunately it never happens. Now, through DNA testing on Ancestry and on GEDmatch I've been told I have a connection to a circle of people all descended from Samuel Boyd (1783 South Carolina) son of John (1740 Ballymena, Antrim Ireland). > > Still, after checking the trees of those people I find no record of my Jane Boyd (born 1853 Greenock Scotland) daughter of William Boyd (born about 1825 Antrim Ireland) son of Thomas Boyd (a labor/butcher who was deceased before 1857). > > I believe my research because I have located the following documents: > > William Boyd's 2 marriages and death record. (His death record shows a mother named Margaret McNeil however his 2nd marriage shows a different mother-Sarah McAlister) All other information matches including the street address in Greenock, Scotland and his father Thomas Boyd as well as both of his wives. > > Jane Boyd’s marriage. This shows William as her father and his first wife Jane Kane as her mother. I have never found her birth record. > > Any suggestions? Does anyone know if maybe Thomas (a butcher) could be a middle or nickname? Does it seem likely that a family would split up and have some stay in Ireland/Scotland while everyone else goes to Southern United States? Other than the connection through DNA I have no family history in Southern United States. > > This brick wall seems impossible :-( > Susan > Sent from my iPhone > Susan Hemsley Cicala☎ > > > ==================== > *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** > > > Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. > > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > ====================================== > > > > {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml }}}}}}}} > > > > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games & Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015 Please plan on attending! > > Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > > ______________________________________ > > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! > http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml > > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > > This list is set for replies to go to the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com not just the author of the post. > ==================== > > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact the Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message