Hi all, I'm trying to track down a Mary Elizabeth Boyd that was born c 1861 in the UK before migrating to Australia, specifically to the Ida Palmer goldfields in Queensland. There are complications though - she isn't exactly straight forward on the various bits of documentation that I have, and I'm missing some critical things that would be useful. Birth certificate for Robert William Boyd, 7th April, 1883, Ida Palmer Queensland Originally gives father as John Boyd Saddler 24yo Aberdeen, Scotland - replaced 4 months later with 'Illegitimate' by registrar Originally gives mother as Mary Elizabeth Gleason, 22yo, b Dublin, Ireland - replaced 4 months later with Mary Elizabeth Boyd Marriage certificate for Mary Boyd and John Bamford , 4th June 1883, Ida Palmer, Queensland Mary Boyd, born Dublin Ireland 22 years old, parents William Boyd (Sea captain), Mary Ann Gleason I'm working on the premise that she lied on the birth certificate using her mother's maiden name. Marriage certificate for Elizabeth May Bamford and Albert Mountney, 28th July 1898, Melbourne, Victoria Elizabeth May Bamford, widow (1889), born Holyhead, North Wales, 36yo, father William Wilfred Boyd (Captain, Coastguard), Mary Ann Williamson John Bamford isn't dead at this point, but they moved to Victoria and she left him. I suspect the name rearrangement was to help her and her son remain hard to find. The details aren't exact the same from Mary Elizabeth Boyd to Elizabeth May Bamford, but the certificate for her son's marriage helps strongly suggest that they are the same person. (Complicating things is that they got married at a known slightly dodgy marriage factory) Marriage certificate for William Robert Mountney and Katie Priscilla Griffiths, 18th Nov 1908 William Robert Mountney, born Charters Towers, Queensland, 25 yo, Albert Mountney, May Elizabeth Boyd Clearly William Robert was born 15 years before Elizabeth and Albert Mountney married so the father isn't accurate, and Charters Towers is a gold town in the north of Queensland - nearish to Ida Palmer in Australian terms :) Death certficate for Elizabeth May Mountney, 12th October 1941 84yo, father John Boyd (Sea Captain), mother Elizabeth Boyd (unknown maiden name) Married: Queensland, at 20 years to Albert Mountney, Issue William Robert 59 years. These details are a mash of some of the above, but her age has gone up a bit as well. I don't have any idea of immigration (though there is another birth of a John Boyd to Mary Boyd in 1882, so that probably sets a minimum), nor am I sure if she came to Australia on her own or with family. I'm I can't find any mentions of a William Wilfred Boyd as a coastguard captain (or even sailor). I'm inclined to believe the Dublin record about her birth, but that's partly because I cannot find any other record in the England/Wales births that looks right. If anyone has any ideas where I might look next? thanks in advance, Damien Moore

Damien This looks like a very good puzzle for us over Xmas. You said " Birth certificate for Robert William Boyd, 7th April, 1883, Ida Palmer, Queensland Originally gives father as John Boyd Saddler 24yo Aberdeen, Scotland " So was this original father "John Boyd Saddler" or John Boyd who was a Saddler by occupation? If the former, it may mean that she was still married to John Boyd Saddler/John Boyd when she married John Bamford , on 4th June 1883? I will print this out in the morning to see what else I can make of it and reply Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: eccles via Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 11:54 AM To: boyd-l@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] Mary Elizabeth Boyd, b c1861 Dublin or Holyhead Hi all, I'm trying to track down a Mary Elizabeth Boyd that was born c 1861 in the UK before migrating to Australia, specifically to the Ida Palmer goldfields in Queensland. There are complications though - she isn't exactly straight forward on the various bits of documentation that I have, and I'm missing some critical things that would be useful. Birth certificate for Robert William Boyd, 7th April, 1883, Ida Palmer Queensland Originally gives father as John Boyd Saddler 24yo Aberdeen, Scotland - replaced 4 months later with 'Illegitimate' by registrar Originally gives mother as Mary Elizabeth Gleason, 22yo, b Dublin, Ireland - replaced 4 months later with Mary Elizabeth Boyd Marriage certificate for Mary Boyd and John Bamford , 4th June 1883, Ida Palmer, Queensland Mary Boyd, born Dublin Ireland 22 years old, parents William Boyd (Sea captain), Mary Ann Gleason I'm working on the premise that she lied on the birth certificate using her mother's maiden name. Marriage certificate for Elizabeth May Bamford and Albert Mountney, 28th July 1898, Melbourne, Victoria Elizabeth May Bamford, widow (1889), born Holyhead, North Wales, 36yo, father William Wilfred Boyd (Captain, Coastguard), Mary Ann Williamson John Bamford isn't dead at this point, but they moved to Victoria and she left him. I suspect the name rearrangement was to help her and her son remain hard to find. The details aren't exact the same from Mary Elizabeth Boyd to Elizabeth May Bamford, but the certificate for her son's marriage helps strongly suggest that they are the same person. (Complicating things is that they got married at a known slightly dodgy marriage factory) Marriage certificate for William Robert Mountney and Katie Priscilla Griffiths, 18th Nov 1908 William Robert Mountney, born Charters Towers, Queensland, 25 yo, Albert Mountney, May Elizabeth Boyd Clearly William Robert was born 15 years before Elizabeth and Albert Mountney married so the father isn't accurate, and Charters Towers is a gold town in the north of Queensland - nearish to Ida Palmer in Australian terms :) Death certficate for Elizabeth May Mountney, 12th October 1941 84yo, father John Boyd (Sea Captain), mother Elizabeth Boyd (unknown maiden name) Married: Queensland, at 20 years to Albert Mountney, Issue William Robert 59 years. These details are a mash of some of the above, but her age has gone up a bit as well. I don't have any idea of immigration (though there is another birth of a John Boyd to Mary Boyd in 1882, so that probably sets a minimum), nor am I sure if she came to Australia on her own or with family. I'm I can't find any mentions of a William Wilfred Boyd as a coastguard captain (or even sailor). I'm inclined to believe the Dublin record about her birth, but that's partly because I cannot find any other record in the England/Wales births that looks right. If anyone has any ideas where I might look next? thanks in advance, Damien Moore