Members A member of a private group that I am on posted this recently This is from the book “The Scottish Covenanter Genealogical Index – (1630-1712), by Isabella MacLean (could not see date of publication). This website has four separate pages where Boyds are mentioned. All the Boyds seem to be dated 1655. I am not sure what other data is available from this Index or the references given. Or if there are family trees to these individual people. I will add this book to my 2016 “todolist” for when I go to Scotland (not sure of timing at this stage), but others might be able to tell tell us more about this source and if there are any other books on the Covenanters’ in this period of Scottish history. I look forward to your responses. Mike Boyd “I'm sure you have this and probably use it; but just in case, here is a Scottish Covenanter Genealogical Index. https://books.google.com/books?id=sTCGAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA219&lpg=PA219&dq=janet+margaret+geddes+covenanter&source=bl&ots=9xS-LPW3XJ&sig=qR_OrfITh3Skqq-eF39BmERa_bQ&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjLyZHu_9vJAhVM54MKHT_fAPEQ6AEIJDAB#v=onepage&q=Boyd&f=false one Boyd, Thomas, from Kilmarnock, 1655-ish many covenanters were prone to migrating?”
Wow! Mike, This is a Great list. Where to start? I guess we should identify all of the ones we can. I will start by noticing that there are no Boyd of Airth on this list which fits since those who we think are their descendants were all Anglican. So, here is a list of known Presbetyrians, in Scotland prior to 1700. Chronologically by approximation of birth 1650 James Boid of Balwhatstone- Where was this? John Boyd of Trochrig- this is odd to me. John Boyd of Edinburgh, Midlothian. can we eliminate that these are the same John? John Boyd of Glasgow, Lanark- there are two Boyds of Lanark on this list John and William 1655 Alexander Boyd of Hartfield (note that the spelling is "Boyid") Where was Hartfield? Alexander Boyd of Kilbride Parish- ? Kilbride castle? or was that a Hamilton holding by this time? Alexander Boyd of Noddsdaill- interesting that the Boyd are still in possession of this land at this time in history as the first reference to Robert Boyd the first refers to him as "of Noddsdale". Have we ever identified where this is? It is not Portincross as there is another on this list from there. Lady Christian Boyd of Harden (wife of Sir William Scott) I bet this is a story to tell James Boyd in Ruthwall? Janet Boyd in Robiquhat Jean Boyd in Robiquhat- Where is Robiquhat? were these man and wife, brother sister, two sisters? John Boyd in Kirktoun John Boyd in Ruthwall- Two from Ruthwall, brothers or cousins? John Boyd in Whait John Boyd in Auchingavin John Boyd in Collehill These are all obviously different men. Where were these towns? notice the "in" instead of "of" designation, the "of" tending to allude to the person being possessor of the lands mentioned. some women Katherine Boyd in Moffat- a wife?, widow, or daughter? Margaret Boyd in Kirkudbright- same questions Mary in Raeburn Mary in Ruthwall Mungo Boyd in Heyberries- !! this should strike a tone for some American Boyds. we see this name here. Robert Boyd in Smellholme -several pages about this fellow. he seems to be an important Covenanter. Robert Boyd at Carmunock- this says he was a minister. Where was Carmunock and what does "at" mean? Thomas Boyd in Kilmarnock- note not "of", this is the only Kilmarnock on this list and the castle was still standing. William Boyd in Merton parish- Boyds of Merton? William Boyd in Glasgow, Lanark- So the lords on this list seem to be: Alexander of Hartfield- (spelled Boyid) this Lady Christian of Harden wife of Sir William Scott, John Boyd of Trochrig John Boyd of Midlothian (possibly the castle we now call "Bedlay" as this was before the sale) Robert Boyd of Portencross (the elder)- known and last but not least on the list is one born about 1672 named George whose place is simply "Scotland" Interesting how many known Boyds are NOT on this list. I look forward to hearing from the researchers on these several places. Barry in Dallas On 12/15/2015 3:49 AM, Mike Boyd via wrote: > ==================== > *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** > > > Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. > > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > ====================================== > > > > {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. 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Mike and researchers all, I am having a blast with this list today. Thank you so much, Mike. I have been deep into Cromwell, Charles II, and this era in general. This is a period I knew very little about until recently. I am learning so much. Now about this John Boyd Mason in Glasgow I have seen this family before in my research into the roots of Freemasonry. This era, the 1680's, and this place, Glasgow is the birthplace of what is modern speculative masonry. At this time however the lodges were just beginning to admit non-operatives (gentlemen who knew nothing about building in stone) This Boyd family of operative Masons begins in the ancient mist of time. The registry of incorporations in Glasgow begins, however in 1600. In 1601 we see Andrew Boyd as the Deacon of the trade. He was already old at this time and served in this office several time throughout his life and after him his son John took his place from 1616 until the 1640s. There was a Robert also, and a Robert the younger who both held the seat several times. In the 70's and 80's we see our John from this list and also his brother James. The last to serve as Deacon of the Masons of Glasgow was James Boyd in 1696. It is said that he carried a charter for a lodge to America. I have not yet found where that lodge was. There was several known operative lodges in America before 1717, all will Scottish charters. for this reason I think they came here about 1700 https://books.google.com/books?id=paYHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA447&lpg=PA447&dq=John+Boyd+1650+Mason+in+Glasgow&source=bl&ots=NcbSh55yu_&sig=ulXIxP9HEm88571refGWdtaNKnA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQqNTKlOHJAhXFLyYKHUqmBI4Q6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=John%20Boyd%201650%20Mason%20in%20Glasgow&f=false Barry in Dallas On 12/15/2015 3:49 AM, Mike Boyd via wrote: > Members > A member of a private group that I am on posted this recently > > This is from the book “The Scottish Covenanter Genealogical Index – (1630-1712), by Isabella MacLean (could not see date of publication). This website has four separate pages where Boyds are mentioned. > > All the Boyds seem to be dated 1655. I am not sure what other data is available from this Index or the references given. Or if there are family trees to these individual people. > I will add this book to my 2016 “todolist” for when I go to Scotland (not sure of timing at this stage), but others might be able to tell tell us more about this source and if there are any other books on the Covenanters’ in this period of Scottish history. > > > I look forward to your responses. > > Mike Boyd > > ==================== > *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** > > > Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. > > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > ====================================== > > > > {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml }}}}}}}} > > > > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games & Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015 Please plan on attending! > > Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > > ______________________________________ > > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! > http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml > > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > > This list is set for replies to go to the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com not just the author of the post. > ==================== > > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact the Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Barry I am glad that I have provided you with some Christmas entertainment Members, there is a need to define where some of these new names are and to see if we can build EACH OF THESE NEW CADETS into a Family Tree? Thank you Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Barry Boyd Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 6:47 AM To: Mike Boyd ; boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOYD] Fw: Boyd Covenanter in Scotland about 1655- John the Mason in Glasgow Mike and researchers all, I am having a blast with this list today. Thank you so much, Mike. I have been deep into Cromwell, Charles II, and this era in general. This is a period I knew very little about until recently. I am learning so much. Now about this John Boyd Mason in Glasgow I have seen this family before in my research into the roots of Freemasonry. This era, the 1680's, and this place, Glasgow is the birthplace of what is modern speculative masonry. At this time however the lodges were just beginning to admit non-operatives (gentlemen who knew nothing about building in stone) This Boyd family of operative Masons begins in the ancient mist of time. The registry of incorporations in Glasgow begins, however in 1600. In 1601 we see Andrew Boyd as the Deacon of the trade. He was already old at this time and served in this office several time throughout his life and after him his son John took his place from 1616 until the 1640s. There was a Robert also, and a Robert the younger who both held the seat several times. In the 70's and 80's we see our John from this list and also his brother James. The last to serve as Deacon of the Masons of Glasgow was James Boyd in 1696. It is said that he carried a charter for a lodge to America. I have not yet found where that lodge was. There was several known operative lodges in America before 1717, all will Scottish charters. for this reason I think they came here about 1700 https://books.google.com/books?id=paYHAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA447&lpg=PA447&dq=John+Boyd+1650+Mason+in+Glasgow&source=bl&ots=NcbSh55yu_&sig=ulXIxP9HEm88571refGWdtaNKnA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjQqNTKlOHJAhXFLyYKHUqmBI4Q6AEIHTAA#v=onepage&q=John%20Boyd%201650%20Mason%20in%20Glasgow&f=false Barry in Dallas