In my tree I have: John 14 James 11 William 10 Robert 15 Thomas 4 I seem to have a very narly(sp) family tree. I'm glad my cousin had this all worked out in 1935 and I found the book 50 years later. The book traced my line down to my 2nd ggf(William) and I traced my line back to him. My given name is Calvin from my paternal gf middle name and my middle name, Lake, comes from my paternal gm maiden name. A typical Scott's naming pattern. Awrabest, Cal