While from The Montgomery Manuscripts: (1605-1706), Rev George Hill, 1869, p 130-143, in Chapter IX which describes the Funeral Possession for the first Viscount Great Ards in September 1636. "4th, Then marched the standard borne by Lt Robert Montgomery. 5th, After it followed the servants to the second Viscount, the chief mouner, viz - John Boyd William Catherwood Mr Samuel Row, Henry Purfrey Hugh Montgomery, of Newton James Fairburn, Hugh Montgomery, of Grange, Jun. Edw. Johnston, of Greengrave. Most of the above have footnotes against them. Footnote # 34 for John Boyd it says:- "John Boyd - This gentleman was, no doubt, a descendant - probably a grandson - of Colonel David Boyd. John Boyd of Drumnafaddie, or Drumfad, near Donaghadee, held a bond for 150 pound against the second earl of MountAlexander, in 1676. - MS. Paper preserved at Donaghadee. A rent-roll of the Mount-Alexander estate, at the close of the seventeenth century, represents David Boyd as in possession of Drumfad, formerly held by John Boyd. The lands contained 176 acres, for which the yearly rent was 4 pound 13s 4d." This would suggest an line of descent of Boyds at DRUMFAD until about 1700. (Drumfad is 2 kms south of Millisle.) What happened to them after that? A possible family tree for this branch MIGHT BE:- N/O John Boyd, b / /15xx - living 1676 (father or son?) O/P David Boyd, living 1700 So the question "Was this John Boyd of Drumfad in 1636 a brother to Robert Boyd [N1], or a son of one of his unnamed brothers as suggested by Rev George Hill." Hill does not say what sort of servant this John Boyd was? Mike Boyd would doubt that he was a house servant but had something to do with the running of the Earl's Estate and as such had some form of education. 10th, Then came the Gentlemen and Esquire, who were mouners, Amongst these is listed "Thomas Boyd, of Whitehouse," on page 139 Footnote # 63 says: "A Thomas Boyd was member of Parliament for Bangor, in 1663, and was expelled from the house for complicity in Blood's plot. He was originally a northern man, although afterwards described as a Dublin merchant. The remains of the 'Old Whitehouse' still exist in the locality now known as Macedon Point, on the Antrim side of Belfast Lough. The troops brought by William III. to Ireland, in 1689, disembarked at the Whitehouse, and were joined by the king, who had come on shore at Carrickfergus. He rested here for a time, probably in the house that had been occupied by Thomas Boyd, and was here joined by duke Schomberg, the prince of Wirtemberg, major-general Kirk, and other officers. - Ulster Journal of Archaeology, vol. i, p 131." Could this Thomas Boyd be the father of Q1's wife in Chapter 3? Or has there "confusion" between two Thomas Boyd's? What does the term "He was originally a northern man" mean? So can he be linked to any of the Boyd's in northern Antrim or Londonderry pre 1663? Does anyone know where this John Boyd of 1637 actually came from? It is known that a Colonel David Boyd, was given land in Greyabbey Parish in 1606 by Sir Hugh Montgomery. However, what is not know is if there is any link between him and this John Boyd. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.