Rhonda In the family of Hugh Boyd of Newberry Co., SC (ch 6/332) - whose family later moved to Sumter Co., AL - I have this entry:- W7 John Montgomery Boyd, b / /1816 ( , Newberry District, SC), d / /1880 ( ), died after 1880 in Texas, bu , town, county, Texas?, m 20/1/1837 (Church, town, Sumter Co., AL), Louisa Jane Moore, dau of Robert K and Theodosia (Ladocia) (nee Hamilton) Moore, b / /1823 (town, Greene Co.?, AL), d / /18xx ( , AL?), bu , AL?, and had issue:- m 2ndly 26/12/1867 (Church, town, Sumter Co., AL), Louisa L Holm, dau of and (nee ) Holm, b / /1823 ( town, county, state), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: , Texas ] [NEED FOOTNOTE # 10, 11, 12, & 13 FROM MARTHA] For Ladocia Hamilton's links to the Boyds, see Chapter 6/333. From E-mail from Charles Boyd of 18 July 2002 (see 6-334.doc) said that John Montgomery Boyd was married to Louisa Jane Moore was on 30 June 1838. Which is correct? In an Email to BOYD-L@rootsweb on 22 April 2004, Rhonda Raye, provided the following:- "This was written by an unknown ancestor:- John M Boyd born July 12, 1816 Louisa Jane Moore born Oct 18, 1823" This would give the dates of birth for both John and Louisa. It went onto say that John died 19 July 1884 but did not say where. I assume from the above comments that he died in Texas. From the dates of the children >From Judy Blaydoe's Email of 19 July 2002 to Mike Boyd, she said that John Clay Boyd (X4) father was "John Montgomery Boyd III b: 1816 in Abbeville Co, SC" and mother was "Louisa Jane Moore b: 1823 in Sumter Co., AL". [NOTE the different location for JMB's birth - Abbeville Co., SC and the use of "III" >From the above family and that outlined in Ch 6/334, W7 could not be the third John Montgomery Boyd. However he could be the third John Boyd, with V2 being the second and his grandfather (see ch 6/334 - T1?) being the third. Also note the different location for where Louisa Moore was born - Judy has Sumter Co, while Martha has Greene Co., AL] - Details, Lived in Sumter Co., AL until 18??, then moved to ???? County, Texas. He was a farmer. It would appear that Louisa Moore died in Sumter Co., AL, sometime between 1859 and 1869, as John's first child by his second wife was born in Sumter Co. AL in 1874. [need to look for Cemeteries near their farm to see if she can be found along with date of death. She might have died in 1861 during childbirth? ] Martha Stewart said in 1998 [see letter CB98103 ] that this John came to Sumter Co., AL in 1828. As he would have been only 12 years old, one would assume that he came with his parents. Therefore need to look at 1830 US Census for Sumter Co., AL to see what Boyds are also recorded in the Census. NEED TO SEE IF Mortuary Records FOR SUMTER CO ARE AVAILABLE. BOTH FOR NEAR THE FARM HE HAD AND IS SAID TO HAVE LOST AND WHERE HE IS LOCATED ON THE 1880 CENSUS OR ANY OTHER LOCATION BESIDES THE FARM. Sara Allen in an E-mail of 21 July 2002 said that she believed "Jane Dial (V2 above) brother John Dial married a Mary Montgomery. Both of their sons David Montgomery" [I HAVE ASKED SARA IF THE "DAVID" SHOULD BE JOHN ] 27/7/2002 However, I can't answer you question if there are two John Montgomery Boyd's in this Cemetery for you. I do recall that at Stone Mountain Games at Altantia, last year, I meet a lady who was part of this family (and I think came from this area). So can anyone on the list do a "look up" or know if there are two John Montgomery Boyd's buried there? Thank you Mike Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rhonda" <rstarthistle@gmail.com> To: <boyd@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] John Montgomery Boyd was Newberry to Meriwether Boyds > There is John Montgomery Boyd that married Louisa Jane Moore that is > buried > out there in Boyd, AL. Is there another John M Boyd that is older buried > there too? When I went to the cemetery a few years ago I didn't walk it > because I could not tell if it was private property or not and also > someone's dog had followed me down the long drive. Since I was by myself > in > the middle of nowhere with an unknown dog there too, I took a pic of the > gate and left. > > Rhonda > (Cartersville, GA) > > Message: 10 > Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 12:31:55 -0400 (EDT) > From: jodiek <jodiek444@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Newberry to Meriwether Boyds > To: boyd@rootsweb.com > > I meant to jump in last week but got busy and just didn't do it, but I > have > done a lot of research on some of these Boyds and would be happy to share > what I've found. I did several articles on the family of Robert H. Boyd > (son > of Hugh)who married (1) Chloeretta Gray, (2) Martha Osborne Wagner, and > (3) > Martha McRae. (All that is documented with court records and censuses.) I > also have proof that Rosanna, daughter of Hugh, married William Boyd, son > of > Robert and Rosannah Stewart Boyd. And, of course you know I believe > Rosanna > and William were first cousins. Not proved but lots of evidence. > > I also have a theory on Jeannett (Harper?) "Muffitt" Boyd which I would > like > to toss out for discussion. I believe Jeannette was married to the Moffett > second (after Hugh died) instead of before. That would make her Jeannette > Harper (?) Boyd Moffett. The questions come from Matthew Boyd's will where > he leaves part of his estate to the children of his half-brother, William > Moffett, who, if the general current info is correct, would be older than > Matthew. We don't know Matthew's year of birth but we do know that he was > the oldest son of Hugh and Jeanette (mentioned as such in Hugh's will). We > also know that Hugh's son, John Montgomery Boyd, was born in 1776, because > it is on his gravestone in Boyd, Alabama. Therefore, Matthew must have > been > born before 1776. Let's say he was born in 1774, going on the usual span > between children at that time. That means that William Moffett, the > half-brother, would be born before 1774 if Jeannette were married to the > Moffett before Hugh. (Are! > you still with me?) > > Annual returns dated 1837 on Matthew Boyd's estate names these children > and > says they are all "infants." (Matthew died in 1835 but made his will in > 1834.) > > Quoting a passage from Sandra Lee's book, "Newberry County, SC Equity > Records 1818-1844, Will Book M&N With Annual Returns, Will Book I, > Miscellaneous Annual Returns, ?1985 by Sandra J. Lee, page 132: BOX 22, > PACKAGE 4 > > "James Renwick, Adm. of Matthew Boyd dec vs Jacob Maffett and infants > Sarah, > Silas, Elizabeth, Margaret, Ann Emeline Maffet (Guardian Elijah Jenkins). > Bill for direction and relief. Filed 6 July 1837. > > "Matthew Boyd died in 1835 with LWT 3 Sept 1834 in which he left real > estate > and two negroes to "children of my half-brother William Maffet." At the > time > the will was written, William Maffet had three children ... Sarah, Silas, > and Elizabeth. Another child, Margaret, was born before Matthew Boyd died. > Ann Emeline Maffett was born after Matthew Boyd died. The court decided > all > the children would receive an equal share." > > Further research shows that Sarah (Ann) was born 26 Nov 1826 (gravestone > in > Texas); Silas and Elizabeth both had to be born before 1834, Margaret was > born between 1834 and 1835 (after the will but before Matthew died), and > Ann > Emeline was born after 1835 (after Matthew died). If their father, William > Maffett, sired them, and he was born in 1772 (or maybe before), then he > would be nearly 70 years old and not likely to be having young children. > However, if he was born AFTER Hugh died (after 1899), then he would be a > more reasonable age to be having young children. Not hard proof, but > certainly reason for doubt and cause to take another look. 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