Colin I THINK THAT THE QUOTE that John Boyd married and then came to Maryland in 1670 is wrong BECAUSE of the date of the children's marriages in early 1700's. Even if we assume that they were 25 years old when they married, this would place their birth at about 1680. So we have a 10 year gap between when he is said to have come and when the first children are thought to have been born. So does this mean that "some" children were born to this couple during the 1670's that are not recorded or that they were married in the late 1670's in Maryland and not in England as suggested. It would be good to know - like Chris Smithson suggested - if any original information is available in Maryland about this family in the 1600's. While it does not say, I would assume that this John Boyd rose to be a ship's Captain. So was he coming to America before 1670 and was he still a ship's Captain during the 1670's after he arrived in Maryland. And the other question is - was he a part of the various Boyds form Irvine, Ayrshire who seem to have been ships Captains. These I ASSUME were younger sons of some of the Ayrshire Cadet Branches. This date of arrival would suggest that he was one of the first Boyds in Maryland. Hopefully, some of the members of this family can search in the Maryland Records to provide more data. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher T. Smithson" <ctsmithson@gmail.com> To: <BrooksGen4@aol.com> Cc: <mikejboyd@bigpond.com>; <BOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:51 AM Subject: Re: [BOYD] John and Mary Boyd of Boyd's Choice With regards to the John and Mary Boyd in Maryland in the 1670's and 1680's has anyone documented this couple based from original records and not from someone compiled family history? Thank you, Chris Smithson Clan Genealogist -- Christopher T. Smithson 4219 Paddrick Road Darlington, Maryland 21034-1034 410-836-3433 home 443-350-7650 cell ctsmithson@gmail.com On May 30, 2011, at 11:57, BrooksGen4@aol.com wrote: > Mike, > Cant understand why you think they married in a Maryland. It clearly > says "He then married Mary ------ and in 1670 came to Maryland." So he > married in England and came to Maryland. > Secondly, your making assumptions about the religion again based on > English standards. IF he actually lived in England, then obviously the > Anglican > church was practically the sole option. However, when he came to America, > he only had two- Catholic and Anglican. Presbyterian ministries, much > less > churchs, didn't even exist in America at this time. So where else was he > gonna get married, get children baptized etc.? > In the 1600's and 1700's in America, Scotch-Irish made their "church" > choice based on only two factors. Where they lived and what churches > where > available where they lived. You could say a man was Quaker if he lived in > Philadelphia and attended a Quaker church. You can NOT say the same thing > about > the same man if he lived in Chambersburg at the exact same time. There > were NO Quaker establishments in that area. He went to the nearest church > that > had a theology as close to his own personal beliefs as possible. > And this lasted for almost 200 years or more in America. Case in point- > my Daniel Boyd was an elder of the Londonderry, NH Presbyterian church in > 1860s. When he pioneered to Ocheyedan, Iowa he became an Elder in the 1st > Methodist church of Ocheyedan. So which was he? If you read his scripture > writings to his children he was clearly Presbyterian in theology BUT he > had no > other choice, and attending the "assembly of believers" is a Biblical > mandate. So he not only went to that church, he became a leader in that > church. > > In the early part of our countries religious history, you can define a > man clearly as one-sided only when it comes to the "Catholic or not?" > question. Almost all other religions are protestant and "appropriate" > places to > attend when you desperately want to be with a body of believers. > > My two cents, > Colin Brooks > The 1718 Project > > > In a message dated 5/30/2011 1:42:35 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > mikejboyd@bigpond.com writes: > > According to the book Eldred E. Brown, His American Ancestors Descendants > and siblings and Thirty-Tow allied Families, Edwin H. Brown, 1985, page > 18, > it says:- > > "John Boyd (1-1) was born in England in 1620. From the age of ten until > he > was forty, he was a sailor. He then married Mary ------ and in 1670 came > to > Maryland. In 1684 he settled on sixthy acres known as Boyd's Choice, > which > he patented from the Proprietary Government. This land was located on the > Seven River, above Annapolis, in Anne Arundel County. > > In 1694 he removed to an estate of one thousand acres, just above the > tidewater of the Patuxent River. This tract of land was granted to John > Boyd > by Charles, Third Lord Baltimore, on 16 September 1703, and was called > Amphill Grange. This land was located in the new county of Prince > George's, nine miles north of the county seat of Upper Marlboro. He > operated the > plantion, and an inn, at the old Queen Annie's Town nearby. > > John Boyd was a prominent man. He served on the Grand Jury, and is > mentioned > several times in the published Court records. > > John and Mary Boyd had six children: