Yolanda & others researching the Scottish Borders Migration of Boyd's FROM England to the Scottish Borders. Following Yolanda Boyd's reply to my query about when Boyd families migrated to England and to where, I had another look at this issue again. MY THEORY IS THAT THE BOYDS MIGRATED FROM ENGLAND TO THE SCOTTISH BORDERS! It is known that Lord Robert Boyd, when overthrown in Scotland in 1469, fled to Alnwick, Northumberland England. From an unknown American researcher, it would appear that Lord Boyd had a 6th son Adam Boyd born in 1460 who went with him to Alnwick, whoever, we - at this time - do not know if any other Boyds went with him as family or "servants". While it is "said" this Adam Boyd after his second marriage went to the Leeds area and the chart lists a further 11 generations. It is known that:- O2 James Boyd, ninth Lord Boyd, bc 1600, d 16xx, appears to have died in March 1654, m before 1640, Catherine Crayke (or Craik), second daughter and co heir of John Crayk of the City of York, b 16xx, baptised 3 January 1618-19 (Bridlington), d 16xx, and had issue:- and T2 James Boyd, styled Lord Boyd, but for the attainder of 1746, fifth of Earl of Kilmarnock, and fifteenth Earl of Erroll, b 20/4/1726 (Falkirk), d 3/7/1778 (Callendar House), m 15/9/1749 Rebecca Lockhart, daughter of Alexander Lockhart of Cogington (Craighouse) (Lord Covington ? or Lord Woodhall ?), b 17xx, d 2/5/1761 (Bristol) and had issue:-, m secondly 10/8/1762 (Ford Church), Isabella Carr, daughter of Sir William Carr, Bt, of Etal, Northumberland, b 31/3/1742, d 3/11/1808 (Queen St Edinburgh), bu Abbey of Holyroadhouse, and had issue:- Both the 9th Lord Boyd [O2] marriage and the second marriage of James Boyd [T2], son of the 4th Earl of Kilmarnock have puzzled me for over 20 years, as to why these two Heads of the Clan married English brides. However, after talking to Clint and Yolanda in Grand Rapids MI and looking at this family of Adam Boyd again, it MIGHT HAVE BEEN that the Head of the Clan had come to England to visit their distant cousins in Northern England which led to them meeting their future brides. The Carrs of Etal, Northumberland, England is only 9 kms east of Coldstream on the Tweed River in Scotland and only about 4 or 5 kms NE of Flodden Battle field. In this Chart in the 5th to the 7th generation - from the late 1500's to early to mid 1600's there is three generations of Raffe or Ralph Boyd's given. This is still a large gap to Yolanda and Clint Ralph Boyd born in about 1733-38. The towns of Doddington, Chatton and Wooler are about 12-18 kms SE of Floddon Fields and about 21-29 kms NW of Alnwick. So could or might these English Boyd families have moved back across the Scottish Border after the Union between England and Scotland in 1707. It will be interesting to see if any of our researchers can find Boyds on the Scottish side of the border before 1707. It will also be interesting to see what other DNA result might show form Boyd families from the north of England and the Scottish Border region. And it would be interesting to see if any of these English Boyd families MIGHT HAVE Arms that tell us they are for a 6th son of a Lord. For your consideration Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yolanda Boyd" <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net> To: <boyd@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? Hi Mike, My husband, Clint's, Boyd line was concentrated in the Borders of England/Scotland until they moved to South Africa in the 1890's. In our research, we have not been able to connect to all the other families in the borders, but can't say that they aren't related in the 1700's or earlier. His oldest known Boyd is Ralph Boyd (Boid), b. abt 1733/38 and lived in the Doddington/Chatton/Wooler area of Northumberland, England. He married Ann Brown in Chatton in 1758 and moved the family to Norham, Northumberland, along the border of Scotland where they were tenant farmers. They baptized their children at Spittal United Presbyterian in Berwick-Upon-Tweed, England. Their son, Aaron Boyd, b. 1769, married Margaret Steele and baptized their first child at Haggerston Roman Catholic before they moved to Westruther, Berwick, Scotland where they were tenant farmers at Whitburn Farm. They moved there along with Aaron's sister, Margaret, who married Alexander Bird, tenant farmer at Thornidyke, Westruther. The siblings lived within 1 mile of each other. There was another Boyd family who were tenant farmers of the same landlord who lived 1 mile away from them, John Boyd of Broomybank (and Elizabeth Tait) who would have been about the same age as Aaron Boyd. We don't know if this is just a coincidence or if they were cousins. Aaron Boyd's son, Thomas Boyd b. 1799, married Barbara Turnbull and lived in Greenlaw, Berwick, Scotland. He was a coachdriver and died of smallpox in 1837. His son Robert Boyd, b. 1836 in Greenlaw, married Christina Hood and lived in a variety of areas of Berwickshire, including Duns, Lauder, Eccles and Langton. This family moved to Liverpool, England between the 1880 and 1890 census. My husbands gggrandfather, Thomas Boyd, b. 1960 did not follow his parents to Liverpool. He was in the Argyllshire Highlanders and moved with his wife, Annie Ross to South Africa where the family remained for generations. Yolanda Boyd

Hi Mike,   I would love to see the descendent chart of Adam Boyd that you have with the Ralph/Raffe Boyds on it.  It may help us piece this together a bit.  Obviously, we are not descended from Lord James Boyd (Hay) and Isabella Carr as they would have been contemporaries with our Ralph Boyd b. 1733-38, but I wonder if we aren't too many generations off.  On Ralph Boyd's marriage record in 1758, it says he is from Doddington, which is about 3 miles from Ford.  We have suspected that Ralph Boyd's father is a William Boyd based on his naming his first son William in 1759.  This family always followed the traditional naming convention of naming the first son after the father of the father.  We have suspected that Ralph could be the son of William Boyd and Eleanor Carr who married in Ford, Northumberland in 1717, but are still looking for proof of this (beyond the near proximity, correct name and reasonable date range).  Perhaps this Eleanor Carr was related to Isabella Carr who married Lord James Boyd (Hay) in 1762?  There was a family of Boyd's living in Ford around 1700 as there are several Boyd records in the Ford Dissenters and OPR's. I would love to see the gravestone inscriptions from Ford Cemetary, but haven't been able to find them online.  We are just really beginning to dig into the Boyds of Northumberland, so hopefully we will find a link at some point.  Because our Boyd's are tenant farmers, I suspect that we are at least a couple of generations from the main line.  I am glad that you are looking at this part of the world as we need help!   Yolanda From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: Yolanda Boyd <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net>; BOYD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 8, 2011 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? Yolanda & others researching the Scottish Borders Migration of Boyd's FROM England to the Scottish Borders. Following Yolanda Boyd's reply to my query about when Boyd families migrated to England and to where, I had another look at this issue again. MY THEORY IS THAT THE BOYDS MIGRATED FROM ENGLAND TO THE SCOTTISH BORDERS! It is known that Lord Robert Boyd, when overthrown in Scotland in 1469, fled to Alnwick, Northumberland England. From an unknown American researcher, it would appear that Lord Boyd had a 6th son Adam Boyd born in 1460 who went with him to Alnwick, whoever, we - at this time - do not know if any other Boyds went with him as family or "servants". While it is "said" this Adam Boyd after his second marriage went to the Leeds area and the chart lists a further 11 generations. It is known that:- O2 James Boyd, ninth Lord Boyd, bc 1600, d 16xx, appears to have died in March 1654, m before 1640, Catherine Crayke (or Craik), second daughter and co heir of John Crayk of the City of York, b 16xx, baptised 3 January 1618-19 (Bridlington), d 16xx, and had issue:- and T2 James Boyd, styled Lord Boyd, but for the attainder of 1746, fifth of Earl of Kilmarnock, and fifteenth Earl of Erroll, b 20/4/1726 (Falkirk), d 3/7/1778 (Callendar House), m 15/9/1749 Rebecca Lockhart, daughter of Alexander Lockhart of Cogington (Craighouse) (Lord Covington ? or Lord Woodhall ?), b 17xx, d 2/5/1761 (Bristol) and had issue:-, m secondly 10/8/1762 (Ford Church), Isabella Carr, daughter of Sir William Carr, Bt, of Etal, Northumberland, b 31/3/1742, d 3/11/1808 (Queen St Edinburgh), bu Abbey of Holyroadhouse, and had issue:- Both the 9th Lord Boyd [O2] marriage and the second marriage of James Boyd [T2], son of the 4th Earl of Kilmarnock have puzzled me for over 20 years, as to why these two Heads of the Clan married English brides. However, after talking to Clint and Yolanda in Grand Rapids MI and looking at this family of Adam Boyd again, it MIGHT HAVE BEEN that the Head of the Clan had come to England to visit their distant cousins in Northern England which led to them meeting their future brides. The Carrs of Etal, Northumberland, England is only 9 kms east of Coldstream on the Tweed River in Scotland and only about 4 or 5 kms NE of Flodden Battle field. In this Chart in the 5th to the 7th generation - from the late 1500's to early to mid 1600's there is three generations of Raffe or Ralph Boyd's given. This is still a large gap to Yolanda and Clint Ralph Boyd born in about 1733-38. The towns of Doddington, Chatton and Wooler are about 12-18 kms SE of Floddon Fields and about 21-29 kms NW of Alnwick. So could or might these English Boyd families have moved back across the Scottish Border after the Union between England and Scotland in 1707. It will be interesting to see if any of our researchers can find Boyds on the Scottish side of the border before 1707. It will also be interesting to see what other DNA result might show form Boyd families from the north of England and the Scottish Border region. And it would be interesting to see if any of these English Boyd families MIGHT HAVE Arms that tell us they are for a 6th son of a Lord. For your consideration Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yolanda Boyd" <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net> To: <boyd@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? Hi Mike, My husband, Clint's, Boyd line was concentrated in the Borders of England/Scotland until they moved to South Africa in the 1890's. In our research, we have not been able to connect to all the other families in the borders, but can't say that they aren't related in the 1700's or earlier. His oldest known Boyd is Ralph Boyd (Boid), b. abt 1733/38 and lived in the Doddington/Chatton/Wooler area of Northumberland, England. He married Ann Brown in Chatton in 1758 and moved the family to Norham, Northumberland, along the border of Scotland where they were tenant farmers. They baptized their children at Spittal United Presbyterian in Berwick-Upon-Tweed, England. Their son, Aaron Boyd, b. 1769, married Margaret Steele and baptized their first child at Haggerston Roman Catholic before they moved to Westruther, Berwick, Scotland where they were tenant farmers at Whitburn Farm. They moved there along with Aaron's sister, Margaret, who married Alexander Bird, tenant farmer at Thornidyke, Westruther. The siblings lived within 1 mile of each other. There was another Boyd family who were tenant farmers of the same landlord who lived 1 mile away from them, John Boyd of Broomybank (and Elizabeth Tait) who would have been about the same age as Aaron Boyd. We don't know if this is just a coincidence or if they were cousins. Aaron Boyd's son, Thomas Boyd b. 1799, married Barbara Turnbull and lived in Greenlaw, Berwick, Scotland. He was a coachdriver and died of smallpox in 1837. His son Robert Boyd, b. 1836 in Greenlaw, married Christina Hood and lived in a variety of areas of Berwickshire, including Duns, Lauder, Eccles and Langton. This family moved to Liverpool, England between the 1880 and 1890 census. My husbands gggrandfather, Thomas Boyd, b. 1960 did not follow his parents to Liverpool. He was in the Argyllshire Highlanders and moved with his wife, Annie Ross to South Africa where  the family remained for generations. Yolanda Boyd Alnwick, Northumberland England. From an unknown American researcher, it would appear that Lord Boyd had a 6th son Adam Boyd born in 1460 who went with him to Alnwick, whoever, we - at this time - do not know if any other Boyds went with him as family or "servants". While it is "said" this Adam Boyd after his second marriage went to the Leeds area and the chart lists a further 11 generations. It is known that:- O2 James Boyd, ninth Lord Boyd, bc 1600, d 16xx, appears to have died in March 1654, m before 1640, Catherine Crayke (or Craik), second daughter and co heir of John Crayk of the City of York, b 16xx, baptised 3 January 1618-19 (Bridlington), d 16xx, and had issue:- and T2 James Boyd, styled Lord Boyd, but for the attainder of 1746, fifth of Earl of Kilmarnock, and fifteenth Earl of Erroll, b 20/4/1726 (Falkirk), d 3/7/1778 (Callendar House), m 15/9/1749 Rebecca Lockhart, daughter of Alexander Lockhart of Cogington (Craighouse) (Lord Covington ? or Lord Woodhall ?), b 17xx, d 2/5/1761 (Bristol) and had issue:-, m secondly 10/8/1762 (Ford Church), Isabella Carr, daughter of Sir William Carr, Bt, of Etal, Northumberland, b 31/3/1742, d 3/11/1808 (Queen St Edinburgh), bu Abbey of Holyroadhouse, and had issue:- Both the 9th Lord Boyd [O2] marriage and the second marriage of James Boyd [T2], son of the 4th Earl of Kilmarnock have puzzled me for over 20 years, as to why these two Heads of the Clan married English brides. However, after talking to Clint and Yolanda in Grand Rapids MI and looking at this family of Adam Boyd again, it MIGHT HAVE BEEN that the Head of the Clan had come to England to visit their distant cousins in Northern England which led to them meeting their future brides. The Carrs of Etal, Northumberland, England is only 9 kms east of Coldstream on the Tweed River in Scotland and only about 4 or 5 kms NE of Flodden Battle field. In this Chart in the 5th to the 7th generation - from the late 1500's to early to mid 1600's there is three generations of Raffe or Ralph Boyd's given. This is still a large gap to Yolanda and Clint Ralph Boyd born in about 1733-38. The towns of Doddington, Chatton and Wooler are about 12-18 kms SE of Floddon Fields and about 21-29 kms NW of Alnwick. So could or might these English Boyd families have moved back across the Scottish Border after the Union between England and Scotland in 1707. It will be interesting to see if any of our researchers can find Boyds on the Scottish side of the border before 1707. It will also be interesting to see what other DNA result might show form Boyd families from the north of England and the Scottish Border region. And it would be interesting to see if any of these English Boyd families MIGHT HAVE Arms that tell us they are for a 6th son of a Lord. For your consideration Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yolanda Boyd" <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net> To: <boyd@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? Hi Mike, My husband, Clint's, Boyd line was concentrated in the Borders of England/Scotland until they moved to South Africa in the 1890's. In our research, we have not been able to connect to all the other families in the borders, but can't say that they aren't related in the 1700's or earlier. His oldest known Boyd is Ralph Boyd (Boid), b. abt 1733/38 and lived in the Doddington/Chatton/Wooler area of Northumberland, England. He married Ann Brown in Chatton in 1758 and moved the family to Norham, Northumberland, along the border of Scotland where they were tenant farmers. They baptized their children at Spittal United Presbyterian in Berwick-Upon-Tweed, England. Their son, Aaron Boyd, b. 1769, married Margaret Steele and baptized their first child at Haggerston Roman Catholic before they moved to Westruther, Berwick, Scotland where they were tenant farmers at Whitburn Farm. They moved there along with Aaron's sister, Margaret, who married Alexander Bird, tenant farmer at Thornidyke, Westruther. The siblings lived within 1 mile of each other. There was another Boyd family who were tenant farmers of the same landlord who lived 1 mile away from them, John Boyd of Broomybank (and Elizabeth Tait) who would have been about the same age as Aaron Boyd. We don't know if this is just a coincidence or if they were cousins. Aaron Boyd's son, Thomas Boyd b. 1799, married Barbara Turnbull and lived in Greenlaw, Berwick, Scotland. He was a coachdriver and died of smallpox in 1837. His son Robert Boyd, b. 1836 in Greenlaw, married Christina Hood and lived in a variety of areas of Berwickshire, including Duns, Lauder, Eccles and Langton. This family moved to Liverpool, England between the 1880 and 1890 census. My husbands gggrandfather, Thomas Boyd, b. 1960 did not follow his parents to Liverpool. He was in the Argyllshire Highlanders and moved with his wife, Annie Ross to South Africa where  the family remained for generations. Yolanda Boyd Berwick-Upon-Tweed, England. Their son, Aaron Boyd, b. 1769, married Margaret Steele and baptized their first child at Haggerston Roman Catholic before they moved to Westruther, Berwick, Scotland where they were tenant farmers at Whitburn Farm. They moved there along with Aaron's sister, Margaret, who married Alexander Bird, tenant farmer at Thornidyke, Westruther. The siblings lived within 1 mile of each other. There was another Boyd family who were tenant farmers of the same landlord who lived 1 mile away from them, John Boyd of Broomybank (and Elizabeth Tait) who would have been about the same age as Aaron Boyd. We don't know if this is just a coincidence or if they were cousins. Aaron Boyd's son, Thomas Boyd b. 1799, married Barbara Turnbull and lived in Greenlaw, Berwick, Scotland. He was a coachdriver and died of smallpox in 1837. His son Robert Boyd, b. 1836 in Greenlaw, married Christina Hood and lived in a variety of areas of Berwickshire, including Duns, Lauder, Eccles and Langton. This family moved to Liverpool, England between the 1880 and 1890 census. My husbands gggrandfather, Thomas Boyd, b. 1960 did not follow his parents to Liverpool. He was in the Argyllshire Highlanders and moved with his wife, Annie Ross to South Africa where  the family remained for generations. Yolanda Boyd