Hi Rebecca -- Your message to the list may have bounced, but I received a copy as a cc, so am not cutting off your original as I reply. Take a look to <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_britain> for more information. Apparently it is stated that Great Britain is the Island on which Scotland, Cornwall, Wales and England are located. The Isle of Alba. Census work should provide more clues before you are jumping off in *any* country looking for William Boyd.... Jane is just as common a name. Kind of like a search for John Smith or Jane Doe! However, I suspect you will find "Scotland" as the response for Jane's place of birth on the census. Yours Aye, Lauren On Thu, Jun 2, 2011 at 10:51 AM, Rebecca Boyd <rebecca@wisemare.com> wrote: > > Thanks, Lauren.  That is, indeed, information I already have.  However, it has just occurred to me:  Might the "Great Britain" line be significant?  Belfast is within the United > Kingdom, but Great Britain is the island shared by England, Scotland, and Wales.  That's why the full name of the UK is "the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland."  I wonder if that was so in 1850?  (i.e. if Northern Ireland was not considered Great Britain at that time either?)  If so, that leads me to believe I ought to be looking in Scotland, not Ulster. > > Hmmmm....  Thanks for the things to chew on. > > > --- On Thu, 6/2/11, Lauren Boyd McLachlan <confido@gmail.com> wrote: > > From: Lauren Boyd McLachlan <confido@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Brick Wall: William Joseph Boyd b. ~1840 > To: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > Cc: "Rebecca Boyd" <rebecca@wisemare.com>, Boyd@rootsweb.com > Date: Thursday, June 2, 2011, 12:49 PM > > From www.castlegardens.org > > WILLIAM BOYD > Age: 10 > Ship: Standard > Arrived: 16 Jul 1850 > Country:  Great Britain > Port of Departure: Belfast > Country of Origin: Great Britain > > JANE BOYD > Age: 20 > Ship: Standard > Arrived: 16 Jul 1850 > Country:  Great Britain > Port of Departure: Belfast > Country of Origin: Great Britain > > However as Rebecca mentioned the ship's manifest in her post, I > suspect this is information she already has.  This is merely an > extract as posted to the CG website.  There may be original records > that state a bit more. > > Keep in mind that it would not be unusual for someone living in > Scotland to arrive in the USA on a ship out of Belfast.  Yet another > possibility. > > Yours Aye, > > Lauren > > On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > > Rebecca > > > > You will need to find as much information as you can in the USA before you > > go to Ireland - north or south. > > > > So what other information does the shipping record of 1850 tell you? > > > > 2)    In 1850, was it through Ellis Island they at they came?  If so what > > records does that give on William Joseph Boyd and Jane Boyd? > > > > 3)    Have you found their naturalisation records? > > > > 4)    Did you find where he was living in the 1860 Census? > > > > 5)    Do you know where they "settled" in America after they arrived? > > > > 6)    You said that he was with the "Ohio 6th Regiment in the Civil War" & > > that you found 2 William J Boyd listed.  So have you been able to get both > > their records to see if one is born in Ireland?  Hopefully this may tell > > WHERE in Ireland he was born - at least the County.  (Do you know where to > > find these records.) > > > > I am sure that other list members will have other questions about what > > resarch you have done, so far. > > > > You could have a situation, where his parents had already come to the USA or > > perhaps they may have died in Ireland and he and Jane were coming to the USA > > to live with relatives - uncle, aunt or cousins? > > > > And if he has shipped out from Belfast, there are several Counties that he > > may have come from - Antrim, Down, Armagh, eastern Tyrone or even eastern > > Londonderry, just to name the most likely Counties. > > > > Hopefully this will help > > > > Mike Boyd > > Historical Committee, HBS > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Rebecca Boyd" <rebecca@wisemare.com> > > To: <Boyd@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2011 3:02 AM > > Subject: [BOYD] Brick Wall: William Joseph Boyd b. ~1840 > > > > > > I am looking for the parents of William Joseph Boyd, who arrived in New York > > on a ship from Belfast in 1850. He was approximately 10 years old. The only > > other Boyd on the ship with him was Jane, age 20. I don't know if they were > > siblings, cousins, aunt/nephew, or what. Unless the ages on the ship's > > manifest are wrong, she's not his mother. > > > > Family lore holds that William was a soldier in the Ohio 6th Regiment in the > > Civil War, and there are indeed two William J. Boyd's in that regiment. > > However, this doesn't get me any closer to knowing who his parents were. > > > > The US and International records available through Ancestry.com have proved > > useless on this particular problem. I suspect I need to be looking at Church > > records in Northern Ireland. How does one do that, without going to Northern > > Ireland? 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