Members In the Greyabbey Graveyard there are these two entries “Margaret Girvan (wife of Charles Girvan, Ballybrain) (alias McKee) died 19-1-1809 aged 33 years Joseph Girvan, Greyabbey, died 23-11-1863 aged 87 years Elizabeth (wife of Joseph) (alias Boyd) died 17-10-1846 at Albney, U. S. A. aged 66 years Hugh Girvan, Greyabbey, died 20-1-1868 aged 65 years James Girvan, Gordonall, died 16-1-1801 aged 35 years John (brother) died 23-4-1849 aged 72 years Agnes (wife of Hugh Girvan) died 27-2-1847 aged 69 years John Girvan (grandson) died 4-4-1857 aged 17 years” On this website http://girvangenealogy.com/girvan_message_board2.html I found this entry from a Stuart Holland (but this dose snot look like a valid Email address “43. Girvan-Boyd/County Down & Albany NY/1700s-1800s - Stuart Holland (shollandXXssb.state.mn.us) 11/1/2002, 9:00 am My 3x great grandparents were Joseph Girvan (1778-1865) and Elizabeth Boyd (1780-1846) from County Down, whose daughter Jane Girvan moved to Albany, NY with husband Prestley Byers sometime before 1834. I am looking for more information on Joseph's and Elizabeth's families, as well as siblings of Jane. I see there were other Girvans that moved to Albany; perhaps they are siblings? I have seen Jane's name spelled Girvin.” Is anyone on the Down or Boyd list researching this family? Thank you I would like to hear form you as to where Elizabeth was born and where Elizabeth and Joseph married Mike Boyd

My daughter has just sent this. I assume Alana will be going to Rio. Mike Boyd Thought you would enjoy reading this (just click on the link) http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-01-28/alana-boyd-breaks-national-pole-vault-record-in-build-up-to-rio/7122840

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Congratulations! I've got to ask, do you know what the "P" in John P. BOYD's name stands for? We are hunting Paul's in the BOYD line, early 1800's. Thank you, RJenn -----Original Message----- From: skylaury@comcast.net via <boyd@rootsweb.com> To: boyd <boyd@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2016 9:10 am Subject: [BOYD] John Boyd d. 1808 Barren Co, KY new "brick wall", insight anyone? Hello,I have alas broken my direct line brick wall of John P. Boyd b. 1810-1877Caldwell Co. KY with irrefutable primary source documentation that shows George Boyd d. 1839 Caldwell Co. KY m. Dicey Cash was my direct line John P. Boyd’s father.I now also have further insight from sources and copying in part of that below to go past this newly found George Boyd m. Dicy Cash of my direct line. This would be John Boyd d. 1808 Barren Co. KY m. Susannah (maiden name unknown). This is now my new brick wall. "In Deed Book E, page 330 at Barren Co. Courthouse, Glasgow, Kentucky, is a deed of the heirs of John Boyd to John P. Wagner, a tract of land containing 200 acres by survey, bearing date of 29 Aug 1799, patented to John Boyd, lying and being in the County of Barren on the waters of Peters Creek. Also another parcel of land containing 200 acres by survey, bearing the date of 29 Aug1799 patented to Robert Boyd, lying and being in the Co. of Barren on the waters of Peters Creek (later Monroe County, Kentucky). The heirs of John Boyd listed in the deed were; George Boyd and Dicy, his wife, John Boyd, Thomas Boyd, William Boyd, Robert Boyd, Samuel Yates, and Nancy his wife, George Daugherty and Hannah his wife, Levi Greathouse and Betsy his wife, Sally Boyd, and Susannah Boyd.”This John Boyd spoken of above died 1808 Barren Co. KY. It is speculated he was born abt. 1740 in VA. His wife Susannah died abt. 1818 Barren Co. KY "The Inventory of John Boyd was taken 29 October 1808 and the Inventory of Susannah Boyd, his wife, was taken 30 May 1818."Does anyone have further insight on this line of John Boyd m. Susannah? My direct line again in their marriage was son, George Boyd m. Dicy (Diana) Cash and again it has been confirmed with primary source records not shown in this message that George Boyd. m. Dicy Cash was father to my John P. Boyd. b. 1810 d. 1877 m. Sarah Plunkett RuckerI’ve read others on the list speak of this line of John Boyd d. 1808 Barren Co, as it now showing is also my line in other sources, perhaps someone knows more on this John Boyd d. 1808 Barren Co. KY that can share further knowledge on him in reference to a confirmed birth year and place and his father? Sincerely,Laury Boyd LongHBS PNW Convenorskylaury@comcast.net====================*** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. ***Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying.Check your email client's help file if directions are needed.======================================{{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml }}}}}}}}House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games & Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015 Please plan on attending!Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it.______________________________________Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml====================Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. 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Hi, Thanks! I don't know what "P" stands for in that middle name. It has long been a curiosity! All documentation on him never mentions what the middle initial P stands for... Sincerely, Laury > On Jan 27, 2016, at 10:30 AM, rjenn3110@aol.com wrote: > > Congratulations! I've got to ask, do you know what the "P" in John P. BOYD's name stands for? We are hunting Paul's in the BOYD line, early 1800's. > > Thank you, > RJenn > > > -----Original Message----- > From: skylaury@comcast.net via <boyd@rootsweb.com> > To: boyd <boyd@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Jan 27, 2016 9:10 am > Subject: [BOYD] John Boyd d. 1808 Barren Co, KY new "brick wall", insight anyone? > > Hello, I have alas broken my direct line brick wall of John P. Boyd b. 1810-1877Caldwell Co. KY with irrefutable primary source documentation that shows George Boyd d. 1839 Caldwell Co. KY m. Dicey Cash was my direct line John P. Boyd’s father. I now also have further insight from sources and copying in part of that below to go past this newly found George Boyd m. Dicy Cash of my direct line. This would be John Boyd d. 1808 Barren Co. KY m. Susannah (maiden name unknown). This is now my new brick wall. "In Deed Book E, page 330 at Barren Co. Courthouse, Glasgow, Kentucky, is a deed of the heirs of John Boyd to John P. Wagner, a tract of land containing 200 acres by survey, bearing date of 29 Aug 1799, patented to John Boyd, lying and being in the County of Barren on the waters of Peters Creek. Also another parcel of land containing 200 acres by survey, bearing the date of 29 Aug1799 patented to Robert Boyd, lying and being in the Co. of Barren on the waters of Peters Creek (later Monroe County, Kentucky). The heirs of John Boyd listed in the deed were; George Boyd and Dicy, his wife, John Boyd, Thomas Boyd, William Boyd, Robert Boyd, Samuel Yates, and Nancy his wife, George Daugherty and Hannah his wife, Levi Greathouse and Betsy his wife, Sally Boyd, and Susannah Boyd.” This John Boyd spoken of above died 1808 Barren Co. KY. It is speculated he was born abt. 1740 in VA. His wife Susannah died abt. 1818 Barren Co. KY "The Inventory of John Boyd was taken 29 October 1808 and the Inventory of Susannah Boyd, his wife, was taken 30 May 1818." Does anyone have further insight on this line of John Boyd m. Susannah? My direct line again in their marriage was son, George Boyd m. Dicy (Diana) Cash and again it has been confirmed with primary source records not shown in this message that George Boyd. m. Dicy Cash was father to my John P. Boyd. b. 1810 d. 1877 m. Sarah Plunkett Rucker I’ve read others on the list speak of this line of John Boyd d. 1808 Barren Co, as it now showing is also my line in other sources, perhaps someone knows more on this John Boyd d. 1808 Barren Co. KY that can share further knowledge on him in reference to a confirmed birth year and place and his father? Sincerely, Laury Boyd Long HBS PNW Convenor skylaury@comcast.net ==================== *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. ====================================== {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml }}}}}}}} House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games & Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015 Please plan on attending! Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. ______________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. 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Laury, Congratulations on breaking down your John Boyd brick wall. Condolences on finding another right behind it. :-) I'm still banging my head against my James Boyd brick wall, despite contacting dozens of DNA matches with roots all over KY, TN, and NC. Regards, Bruce Boyd

Thank you Colin. This time I will add this information into Rev William Boyd Family Chapter, so I will not forget next time. I have also added this book to my 2016 "todolist", so I can try to find it on my trip and see for myself what it might say, etc The Blair's of 1718 - is it know where they came from prior to Ulster? I know that there is a connection between the Blairs of that Ilk, North Ayrshire and one of the Boyd families. So this was making me wonder if some of the Boyds who also came in 1718, might have come form the Pitcon, Lynn or Craig Boyds of Dalry? Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Colin Brooks Sent: Wednesday, January 27, 2016 7:01 AM To: Mike Boyd ; boyd Subject: Re: [BOYD] Rev William Boyd of Macosquin, County Londonderry, Ireland This is the Blair book you've seen before Mike. It provides no facts for the family connection, just a local "history" on the family connections. The Blair's are part of the 1718 emigration, and major players in that event. They were members at Aghadowey. We clearly are missing a generation. Colin Brooks

Thank you, Bruce! It is indeed a refreshing breakthrough to break through a "brick wall" and to move ahead two generations at that. Indeed, my new brick wall is one to work on, behind these brick walls awaits a new one! I do believe though that the genealogy information we all respectively seek is out there just awaiting to be discovered. Best wishes to you on your brick wall, we are distantly related via a common male shared Boyd forefather as Y DNA has told us. I'll certainly keep you posted if I come across anything in reference to your line. Sincerely, Laury > On Jan 27, 2016, at 7:16 AM, Bruce Boyd <mehsab13@gmail.com> wrote: > > Laury, > > Congratulations on breaking down your John Boyd brick wall. Condolences on finding another right behind it. :-) > > I'm still banging my head against my James Boyd brick wall, despite contacting dozens of DNA matches with roots all over KY, TN, and NC. > > Regards, > Bruce Boyd

Hello, I have alas broken my direct line brick wall of John P. Boyd b. 1810-1877Caldwell Co. KY with irrefutable primary source documentation that shows George Boyd d. 1839 Caldwell Co. KY m. Dicey Cash was my direct line John P. Boyd’s father. I now also have further insight from sources and copying in part of that below to go past this newly found George Boyd m. Dicy Cash of my direct line. This would be John Boyd d. 1808 Barren Co. KY m. Susannah (maiden name unknown). This is now my new brick wall. "In Deed Book E, page 330 at Barren Co. Courthouse, Glasgow, Kentucky, is a deed of the heirs of John Boyd to John P. Wagner, a tract of land containing 200 acres by survey, bearing date of 29 Aug 1799, patented to John Boyd, lying and being in the County of Barren on the waters of Peters Creek. Also another parcel of land containing 200 acres by survey, bearing the date of 29 Aug1799 patented to Robert Boyd, lying and being in the Co. of Barren on the waters of Peters Creek (later Monroe County, Kentucky). The heirs of John Boyd listed in the deed were; George Boyd and Dicy, his wife, John Boyd, Thomas Boyd, William Boyd, Robert Boyd, Samuel Yates, and Nancy his wife, George Daugherty and Hannah his wife, Levi Greathouse and Betsy his wife, Sally Boyd, and Susannah Boyd.” This John Boyd spoken of above died 1808 Barren Co. KY. It is speculated he was born abt. 1740 in VA. His wife Susannah died abt. 1818 Barren Co. KY "The Inventory of John Boyd was taken 29 October 1808 and the Inventory of Susannah Boyd, his wife, was taken 30 May 1818." Does anyone have further insight on this line of John Boyd m. Susannah? My direct line again in their marriage was son, George Boyd m. Dicy (Diana) Cash and again it has been confirmed with primary source records not shown in this message that George Boyd. m. Dicy Cash was father to my John P. Boyd. b. 1810 d. 1877 m. Sarah Plunkett Rucker I’ve read others on the list speak of this line of John Boyd d. 1808 Barren Co, as it now showing is also my line in other sources, perhaps someone knows more on this John Boyd d. 1808 Barren Co. KY that can share further knowledge on him in reference to a confirmed birth year and place and his father? Sincerely, Laury Boyd Long HBS PNW Convenor skylaury@comcast.net

Hi Lauren Hopefully this will answer the problem as it is directly from Ancestry DNA John Sent from my iPod Begin forwarded message: > From: Family Tree DNA Helpdesk <helpdesk@familytreedna.com> > Date: 26 January 2016 at 17:18:00 GMT > To: rg1915@icloud.com > Subject: RE: Update on Your Request {363869} > > > ## Open Requests only: Reply ABOVE THIS LINE to add a note ## > Request Update Request ID: 363869 > > Hi John, > > The best and really only option for you would be to have an Autosomal DNA test done (this is known as the Family Finder test). The Family Finder test will match you to anyone who has shared common ancestry on any of your maternal or paternal lines within the past 5-6 generations. The difficulty will be that the test cannot distinguish from which particular line (whether it be your maternal or paternal line, or your mother's maternal or mother's paternal line, etc) the matches are coming from, so it will require a lot of collaboration between yourself and the matches that you receive to figure out if they are related to you through the line that you are searching for. > > From: John STEWART <rg1915@icloud.com> > Sent: Wed, 20 Jan 2016 22:16:03 +0000 > To: Family Tree DNA Helpdesk <helpdesk@familytreedna.com> > Subject: Re: Update on Your Request {363869} > > Any suggestions > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 20 Jan 2016, at 22:12, Family Tree DNA Helpdesk <helpdesk@familytreedna.com> wrote: > > Cris P > Information Specialist I > Family Tree DNA > > > PS: Help us improve our service by taking our new customer service survey! > > John STEWART - rg1915@icloud.com - Jan 20 2016, 04:15 PM > Any suggestions > > > Sent from my iPad > > On 20 Jan 2016, at 22:12, Family Tree DNA Helpdesk <helpdesk@familytreedna.com> wrote: > > >

Elizabeth Ramp Boyd Birth: Jun. 21, 1831 Cumberland County Pennsylvania, USA Death: Sep. 12, 1913 Carlisle Cumberland County Pennsylvania, USA Death certificate shows mother's maiden name as Eva Failor, and father as Jacob Ramp. Family links: Spouse: Hugh Boyd (1838 - 1909) Children: Margret Jane Boyd Killinger (1861 - 1918)* William C Boyd (1878 - 1932)* *Calculated relationship Note: (Information from "A Few Old Cemeteries") Burial: Zion Reformed Church Graveyard Cumberland County Pennsylvania, USA Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?] Created by: Family Tree Climber Record added: Oct 13, 2011 Find A Grave Memorial# 78317403 Hugh Boyd Birth: 1838 Pennsylvania, USA Death: Apr. 4, 1909 Cumberland County Pennsylvania, USA Death certificate shows mother's maiden name as Elizbeth [sic] R_____ (looks like Ranshe), and father is Robert Boyd. Death occurred in Mifflin Twp from carcinoma of the stomach. Family links: Spouse: Elizabeth Ramp Boyd (1831 - 1913)* Children: Margret Jane Boyd Killinger (1861 - 1918)* William C Boyd (1878 - 1932)* *Calculated relationship Note: (Information from "A Few Old Cemeteries") Burial: Zion Reformed Church Graveyard Cumberland County Pennsylvania, USA Edit Virtual Cemetery info [?] Created by: Family Tree Climber Record added: Oct 13, 2011

This is the Blair book you've seen before Mike. It provides no facts for the family connection, just a local "history" on the family connections. The Blair's are part of the 1718 emigration, and major players in that event. They were members at Aghadowey. We clearly are missing a generation. Colin Brooks

The following Remission of 1571 – as a result of the Battle of Langside – is the fist line I have seen a list of CADET BRANCHES OF THE BOYDS. Boyd Family History says that the Boyd (and I assume the other families listed) were Mary Queen of Scots bodyguard. Members of the Ayrshire list will notice that a number of other Families are listed in this Remission. I have yet to see if any of these “other” families married into any of these Cadets of Clan Boyd. For the Boyd list, we need to identify these locations. - Baddinhaith is Badenheath in East Dumbartonshire - Pinkill is Penkill just outside of Girvan, South Ayrshire - Trochrig was part of the Estate Penkill and given to Adam Boyd’s second son who became the first Laird of Trochrig - Portincross is Portincross Castle west of West Kilbride - Petcon is Pitcon just norht of Dalry, North Ayrshire - Boyneschaw is Bonshaw just west of Stewarton, North Ayrshire - Kipps is about 6 kms south of Linlithgow and this family are said to be a Branch from the Badenheath Cadet Branch - the other Boyd locations I am not too sure about and I will need assistance to find their location and modern spelling. The document below might be regarded as a “historic” document and not the place you might THINK TO LOOK FOR YOUR FAMILY, so I hope that people cam make connections to earlier branches of their family. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. "Remission under the great seal, in favour of Robert, Lord Boyd, Thomas, Master of Boyd, and others for Their participation in the Battle of Langside." [Battle of Langside 13 May 1568], [This is the English translation that was at the Dick Institute, September 2005 ) ] James, by the grace of God King of Scots, to all his honest men to whom the present letters shall come, [sends] greeting. Be it known that by our special grace with the advice, consent and authority of our dearest kinsman, John, Earl of Mar, Lord Erskin etc ... by us and by our Kingdom and ruling lieges we have remitted to our kinsman, Robert Lord Boyd, Thomas Master of Boyd and Robert Boyd of Baddinhaith his sons, Adam Boyd of Pinkill, Master James Boyd of Trochrig his son, Robert Boyd of Portincross, Archibald Boyd his son and heir apparent, Thomas Boyd of Petcon, Robert Boyd his brother, John Boyd of Boyneschaw, James Boyd of Hullirhill, Alexander Boyd of Craig, Robert Boyd his son, Thomas Boyd of Kippis, James Boyd his son, John Boyd in lie kirktoun of Kilmarnok, George Boyd his son, Robert Boyd in Kilbryde, William Boyd and John Boyd merchants in Kilmarnok, John Boyd burgess of the city of Glasgow, Robert Boyd in Cuikistoun, John Boyd in Quhitlyburne, William Boyd in Noddisdal, John Boyd in Gowanlie, Robert Boyd in Wardlaw, Robert Boyd in Lyne, Robert Boyd his son, William Boyd in Laswaid, Quintine [or Quintino?] Boyd his brother, Alexander Boyd servant to our said kinsman Lord Boyd, Hugh Crawfurde of Kirkwod, Archibald Boyill in Rysholme, Walter Crawfurde in Gairbraid, John Crawfurde in Quhitleiburne, John Lindesay in Greneleyis, Patrick Colquhoun brother of John Colquhoun of Kilmardony, John Crawfurde in Wolstoun, Thomas Ross in Bordland, John Lokkart in Unthank, James Auchsloss of the same, Hugh Wallace, of Meynefurde, Patrick Hamiltoun of Bogsyde, Archibald Kelso in Hindgut, Archibald Kelso in Newsyde, John Blair in E?yndyedge, William Blair his son, John Blair, in Quhytcraig, William Blair his son, William Blair in Languished, James Crawfurde in Myddiltoun, John Montgomerie in Flat, Mathew Montgomerie his brother, John Montgomerie son of John Montgomerie in Flat, Andree Wod in Largis, Archibald Kelso of Kelsoland, Alexander Hammiltoun his servant, George Ross of Hanyng, John Fergushill of the same, Andree Schaw of Sornebeg, John Schaw, Robert Schaw and _____ Schaw sons of the said Lord of Sornebeg, John Kneland of Foscane, Oswald Kneland, Gavin Kneland and George Kneland, his brothers, Hugh Crawfurde of Kilbirny, William Crawfurde and Patrick Crawfurde his sons, David Barclay of Ladieland, John Barclay his brother, Patrick Crawfurde of Cartiaburne, David Crawfurde his son, Robert Crawfurde son of John Crawfurde of Kirkwod, Cuthbert Crawfurde of Auchincloyth, David Barclay in Kamehill, Hugh Dillop in Crawfeild, William Crawfurde in Munnok, John Crawfurde son of John Crawfurde of Clowbarhill, John Grenehill and Alan Dillop servants of the said Hugh Crawfurde of Kilbirny, William Schaw in Munnok and to every single man, tennant and servant of the said persons, the rancour of our mind which we conceived, the law suit and every action which we have had, have or could have at any time against these very men, or anyone of them, for their treachery against us at the field or battle of Langsyde and for the deposition of our regal power's authority by them in their resistence against the same and others by force of arms, for their not being obedient and in servitude to us as good men were subjected in time past from our coronation, and for every action and crime which could be attributed to them, or any one of them, or ensue moreover from them from that time in any way, nay, for all other actions, crimes, treasons, sins and offences whatsoever committed by them in time past from our aforesaid committed by them in time past from our aforesaid coronation with the exception made by us and by our kingdom and lieges of those ruling of the slaughterings of the good name of our dearest father and at one time of James, Earl of Moray, and Mathew, Earl of Lennox, our dearest grandfather, and of arson, murder, manslaughter, rape of women, theft, the receipt of theft, witchcraft, omitting completely form the said exception manslaughter and other crimes in the common cause of resistance of our authority committed by or moreover dependent upon those persons whom we wish to be always understood as under our present remission. Provided they likewise satisfy the plaintiffs and others who have suffered damages so that we hear no others just complaint concerning this matter, we, justly taking the above-mentioned persons under our firm peace and protection, strictly frobid anyone from presuming unjustly to inflict any evil, trouble, injury or harm upon them by reason of the above-mentioned existing treason and deposition and of all other aforesaid actions, crimes, treacheries, sins and offences under paid of full forfeiture, or, if anyone causes their death, under pain of loss of life and limbs. In witness of this matter we have made petent for ourselves under our great seal these our letters of remission to last for the whole duration of the life of the aforesaid persons. At Stirling on the eighth day of the month of September in the year of our Lord one thousand five hundred and seventy-one, and in the fifth year of our reign. On the tongue - a remission for Robert, Lord of Boyd, and for several others etc. WORKING TABLE TO SORT OUT LOCATIONS AND IF CURRENTLY KNOW >From the above translation, can now begin the task of trying to find these Boyd "locations". And then the task of try to link them to the central stem of the Clan. (This table is an dynamic work in progress. I would suggest that you publish it with the above document so people realize how many Boyd families and Branches there were in 1571.) No. name relationship location comments 1 Robert Lord Boyd L1, 5th Lord (1517-1589) 2 Thomas Master of Boyd son to # 1 M2 3 Robert Boyd son to # 1 of Baddinhaith M3 (Badenhealth, Dunbartonshire) 4 Adam Boyd of Pinkill K3 (151x-after 1577) 5 Master James Boyd son of # 4 of Trochrig K3/L2 6 Robert Boyd of Portincross p 114, # II, ch 12 7 Archibald Boyd son of # 6 and heir apparent Not listed on p 114 8 Thomas Boyd of Petcon Ch 15 K2/L1 9 Robert Boyd brother to # 8 Ch 15 K2/L2 10 John Boyd of Boyneschaw J2/K1/L1 (Bonshaw?) 11 James Boyd of Hullirhill Could this be the Harrickhill nr. Portencross? 12 Alexander Boyd of Craig Ch 16/840 13 Robert Boyd son to # 12 14 Thomas Boyd of Kippis Ch 22, K1 15 James Boyd son to # 14 Ch 22, K1/J1 16 John Boyd in lie kirktoun of Kilmarnock 17 George Boyd son to # 16 18 Robert Boyd in Kilbryde (Part of Portincross family?) 19 William Boyd merchant in Kilmarnok 20 John Boyd merchant in Kilmarnok 21 John Boyd burgess of the city of Glasgow 22 Robert Boyd in Cuikistoun 23 John Boyd in Quhitlyburne 24 William Boyd in Noddisdal Nodesdale? nr Largs 25 John Boyd in Gowanlie 26 Robert Boyd in Wardlaw about 4 kms NNW of Dalry is a farm marked Wardlaw - same? 27 Robert Boyd in Lyne Could this be Lin, nr. Pitcon? 28 Robert Boyd son to # 27 29 William Boyd in Laswaid 30 Quintine or Quintino Boyd brother to # 29 31 Alexander Boyd servant to our said kinsman Lord Boyd [What is the difference in the term "of" and "in"? Where the "OF" mean that they were head of an Cadet branch and "IN" were an junior member of an unspecified cadet branch?] [WHO IS MISSING FROM THIS LIST FROM KNOWN SONS? - WERE THEY ON THE OTHER SIDE] (1). Where was Adam Boyd (K3) eldest son Robert Boyd? (2).

I was recently sent this website - http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lboyd/BoydDataBase10262000.htm – from a private Group I am involved with. One of the entries for this site has this entry under County Londonderry. ”William Boyd, Rev., from Ireland in 1718; returned 1719; son of Boyd of Dungiven, Derry, Leavitt' Blair Family, p. 24.” Have anyone come across “Leavitt' Blair Family” before and what other details does it provide on Rev William Boyd and his parents? ‘Some” sources say that this William’s father was the Rev Thomas Boyd of Aghadowery, but he would have had to been in his 70’s when Rev William Boyd was born in about 1686. (So in my view unlikely but possible.) Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

It is all "education" John. I have still to learn if the DNA test will tell you in how many generations there is the common connection. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: John STEWART via Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2016 3:48 AM To: Lauren Boyd McLachlan ; boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOYD] Y DNA test I seem to have caused quite a stir here. Nowt is simple with me when it comes to tracing my ancestry among other things. John Sent from my iPod

DY What is your earliest known Boyd? Can you give names, including spouse, dates and locations and the same for their children? Then the list might be able to SUGGEST some other avenues for you or make some connections. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS -----Original Message----- From: Dy via Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 6:37 AM To: John STEWART ; boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOYD] Y DNA test For anyone working with DNA, I recommend downloading your raw DNA to GEDMatch if you tested through Ancestry, 23 &me or FTDNA Autosomal and FTDNA X as you will have access to a broader scope to compare segments of chromosomes. Mine is now divided by maternal and paternal lines, allowing me to know which side a match is on and compare segments of chromosomes. Though my Boyd is on my paternal side, it has removed all the maternal lines on GEDMatch making it less of a needle in a haystack. I tested through Ancestry and I am in a Boyd circle but it still hasn't gotten me back another generation as we are all stuck at the same generation.

Concerning "Robert Boyd in Lyne" and the question, "Could this be Lin, nr. Pitcon?" ... This is Lynn, sometimes written Lin, Lyn, or Lyne, which is southwest of the town of Dalry. It once contained 240 acres and is seen today as Lynn Glen and High Lynn. Following are just a bit of background and then the connection to the Boyds. In 1452, Rollandus de Lyn was described as having died seized and possessed of Lyn, but the family owned it much earlier as in 1296 Walter de Lynne of Ayrshire had a seal, sat on a jury, and signed the Ragman Roll. Sources: 1. "The Register of the Great Seal of Scotland A.D. 1424-1513", Edit.: James Balfour Paul, Edinburgh (1882), p. 126. 2. "Calendar of Documents Relating to Scotland Preserved in Her Majesty’s Public Record Office", Vol. II, Edit.: Joseph Bain, F.S.A. Scot., London (1884), pp. 193, 206, 216. The reason we know this is the Lyne associated with the Boyds is this. In 1532 - 39 years prior to the remission - John Lyn, for a sum of money to him paid, sold to Thomas Boyd, brother of Robert Boyd in Kilmarnock, 40-shilling land of Lyn. John Lyn retained the 16-acre mains of the property, which was described in 1522 and 1583 conveyances within the Lynn family as the "dominical lands of Lyne called Burnesyde, Garden and Lyne Knoll". Sources: 1. "The Register of the Great Seal of Scotland A.D. 1513-1546", Edit.: James Balfour Paul, F.S.A. Scot., and John Maitland Thomson, M.A., Advocates, Edinburgh (1883), p. 254. 2. Ref ## GD3/1/8/11/1 and GD3/1/8/11/2 at http://catalogue.nrscotland.gov.uk/nrsonlinecatalogue/search.aspx Loretta (Lynn) Layman -----Original Message----- From: ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:ayrshire-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd via Sent: Monday, January 25, 2016 9:37 PM To: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com; boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: [AYR] "Remission under the great seal, in favour of Robert, Lord Boyd, Thomas, Master of Boyd, and others for Their participation in the Battle of Langside." [Battle of Langside 13 May 1568], The following Remission of 1571 � as a result of the Battle of Langside � is the fist line I have seen a list of CADET BRANCHES OF THE BOYDS. Boyd Family History says that the Boyd (and I assume the other families listed) were Mary Queen of Scots bodyguard. Members of the Ayrshire list will notice that a number of other Families are listed in this Remission. I have yet to see if any of these �other� families married into any of these Cadets of Clan Boyd. For the Boyd list, we need to identify these locations. - Baddinhaith is Badenheath in East Dumbartonshire - Pinkill is Penkill just outside of Girvan, South Ayrshire - Trochrig was part of the Estate Penkill and given to Adam Boyd�s second son who became the first Laird of Trochrig - Portincross is Portincross Castle west of West Kilbride - Petcon is Pitcon just norht of Dalry, North Ayrshire - Boyneschaw is Bonshaw just west of Stewarton, North Ayrshire - Kipps is about 6 kms south of Linlithgow and this family are said to be a Branch from the Badenheath Cadet Branch - the other Boyd locations I am not too sure about and I will need assistance to find their location and modern spelling. The document below might be regarded as a �historic� document and not the place you might THINK TO LOOK FOR YOUR FAMILY, so I hope that people cam make connections to earlier branches of their family. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. "Remission under the great seal, in favour of Robert, Lord Boyd, Thomas, Master of Boyd, and others for Their participation in the Battle of Langside." [Battle of Langside 13 May 1568], [This is the English translation that was at the Dick Institute, September 2005 ) ] James, by the grace of God King of Scots, to all his honest men to whom the present letters shall come, [sends] greeting. Be it known that by our special grace with the advice, consent and authority of our dearest kinsman, John, Earl of Mar, Lord Erskin etc ... by us and by our Kingdom and ruling lieges we have remitted to our kinsman, Robert Lord Boyd, Thomas Master of Boyd and Robert Boyd of Baddinhaith his sons, Adam Boyd of Pinkill, Master James Boyd of Trochrig his son, Robert Boyd of Portincross, Archibald Boyd his son and heir apparent, Thomas Boyd of Petcon, Robert Boyd his brother, John Boyd of Boyneschaw, James Boyd of Hullirhill, Alexander Boyd of Craig, Robert Boyd his son, Thomas Boyd of Kippis, James Boyd his son, John Boyd in lie kirktoun of Kilmarnok, George Boyd his son, Robert Boyd in Kilbryde, William Boyd and John Boyd merchants in Kilmarnok, John Boyd burgess of the city of Glasgow, Robert Boyd in Cuikistoun, John Boyd in Quhitlyburne, William Boyd in N! oddisdal, John Boyd in Gowanlie, Robert Boyd in Wardlaw, Robert Boyd in Lyne, Robert Boyd his son, William Boyd in Laswaid, Quintine [or Quintino?] Boyd his brother, Alexander Boyd servant to our said kinsman Lord Boyd, Hugh Crawfurde of Kirkwod, Archibald Boyill in Rysholme, Walter Crawfurde in Gairbraid, John Crawfurde in Quhitleiburne, John Lindesay in Greneleyis, Patrick Colquhoun brother of John Colquhoun of Kilmardony, John Crawfurde in Wolstoun, Thomas Ross in Bordland, John Lokkart in Unthank, James Auchsloss of the same, Hugh Wallace, of Meynefurde, Patrick Hamiltoun of Bogsyde, Archibald Kelso in Hindgut, Archibald Kelso in Newsyde, John Blair in E?yndyedge, William Blair his son, John Blair, in Quhytcraig, William Blair his son, William Blair in Languished, James Crawfurde in Myddiltoun, John Montgomerie in Flat, Mathew Montgomerie his brother, John Montgomerie son of John Montgomerie in Flat, Andree Wod in Largis, Archibald Kelso of Kelsoland, Alexander Hammilto! un his servant, George Ross of Hanyng, John Fergushill of the ! same, And ree Schaw of Sornebeg, John Schaw, Robert Schaw and _____ Schaw sons of the said Lord of Sornebeg, John Kneland of Foscane, Oswald Kneland, Gavin Kneland and George Kneland, his brothers, Hugh Crawfurde of Kilbirny, William Crawfurde and Patrick Crawfurde his sons, David Barclay of Ladieland, John Barclay his brother, Patrick Crawfurde of Cartiaburne, David Crawfurde his son, Robert Crawfurde son of John Crawfurde of Kirkwod, Cuthbert Crawfurde of Auchincloyth, David Barclay in Kamehill, Hugh Dillop in Crawfeild, William Crawfurde in Munnok, John Crawfurde son of John Crawfurde of Clowbarhill, John Grenehill and Alan Dillop servants of the said Hugh Crawfurde of Kilbirny, William Schaw in Munnok and to every single man, tennant and servant of the said persons, the rancour of our mind which we conceived, the law suit and every action which we have had, have or could have at any time against these very men, or anyone of them, for their treachery against us at the field or batt! le of Langsyde and for the deposition of our regal power's authority by them in their resistence against the same and others by force of arms, for their not being obedient and in servitude to us as good men were subjected in time past from our coronation, and for every action and crime which could be attributed to them, or any one of them, or ensue moreover from them from that time in any way, nay, for all other actions, crimes, treasons, sins and offences whatsoever committed by them in time past from our aforesaid committed by them in time past from our aforesaid coronation with the exception made by us and by our kingdom and lieges of those ruling of the slaughterings of the good name of our dearest father and at one time of James, Earl of Moray, and Mathew, Earl of Lennox, our dearest grandfather, and of arson, murder, manslaughter, rape of women, theft, the receipt of theft, witchcraft, omitting completely form the said exception manslaughter and other crimes in the co! mmon cause of resistance of our authority committed by or more! over depe ndent upon those persons whom we wish to be always understood as under our present remission. Provided they likewise satisfy the plaintiffs and others who have suffered damages so that we hear no others just complaint concerning this matter, we, justly taking the above-mentioned persons under our firm peace and protection, strictly frobid anyone from presuming unjustly to inflict any evil, trouble, injury or harm upon them by reason of the above-mentioned existing treason and deposition and of all other aforesaid actions, crimes, treacheries, sins and offences under paid of full forfeiture, or, if anyone causes their death, under pain of loss of life and limbs. In witness of this matter we have made petent for ourselves under our great seal these our letters of remission to last for the whole duration of the life of the aforesaid persons. At Stirling on the eighth day of the month of September in the year of our Lord one thousand five hundred and seventy-one, and in the f! ifth year of our reign. On the tongue - a remission for Robert, Lord of Boyd, and for several others etc. WORKING TABLE TO SORT OUT LOCATIONS AND IF CURRENTLY KNOW >From the above translation, can now begin the task of trying to find these Boyd "locations". And then the task of try to link them to the central stem of the Clan. (This table is an dynamic work in progress. I would suggest that you publish it with the above document so people realize how many Boyd families and Branches there were in 1571.) No. name relationship location comments 1 Robert Lord Boyd L1, 5th Lord (1517-1589) 2 Thomas Master of Boyd son to # 1 M2 3 Robert Boyd son to # 1 of Baddinhaith M3 (Badenhealth, Dunbartonshire) 4 Adam Boyd of Pinkill K3 (151x-after 1577) 5 Master James Boyd son of # 4 of Trochrig K3/L2 6 Robert Boyd of Portincross p 114, # II, ch 12 7 Archibald Boyd son of # 6 and heir apparent Not listed on p 114 8 Thomas Boyd of Petcon Ch 15 K2/L1 9 Robert Boyd brother to # 8 Ch 15 K2/L2 10 John Boyd of Boyneschaw J2/K1/L1 (Bonshaw?) 11 James Boyd of Hullirhill Could this be the Harrickhill nr. Portencross? 12 Alexander Boyd of Craig Ch 16/840 13 Robert Boyd son to # 12 14 Thomas Boyd of Kippis Ch 22, K1 15 James Boyd son to # 14 Ch 22, K1/J1 16 John Boyd in lie kirktoun of Kilmarnock 17 George Boyd son to # 16 18 Robert Boyd in Kilbryde (Part of Portincross family?) 19 William Boyd merchant in Kilmarnok 20 John Boyd merchant in Kilmarnok 21 John Boyd burgess of the city of Glasgow 22 Robert Boyd in Cuikistoun 23 John Boyd in Quhitlyburne 24 William Boyd in Noddisdal Nodesdale? nr Largs 25 John Boyd in Gowanlie 26 Robert Boyd in Wardlaw about 4 kms NNW of Dalry is a farm marked Wardlaw - same? 27 Robert Boyd in Lyne Could this be Lin, nr. Pitcon? 28 Robert Boyd son to # 27 29 William Boyd in Laswaid 30 Quintine or Quintino Boyd brother to # 29 31 Alexander Boyd servant to our said kinsman Lord Boyd [What is the difference in the term "of" and "in"? Where the "OF" mean that they were head of an Cadet branch and "IN" were an junior member of an unspecified cadet branch?] [WHO IS MISSING FROM THIS LIST FROM KNOWN SONS? - WERE THEY ON THE OTHER SIDE] (1). Where was Adam Boyd (K3) eldest son Robert Boyd? (2). ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I seem to have caused quite a stir here. Nowt is simple with me when it comes to tracing my ancestry among other things. John Sent from my iPod > On 25 Jan 2016, at 17:12, Lauren Boyd McLachlan via <boyd@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > It is not a matter of like or nnot like. It is a matter of science. > > mtDNA only mutates within every 5,000 to 10 ,000 years. > > Every person who is a H (forexample) descends from the same Ancient Mother. > That makes us cousins. The origin of our mtDNA comes from the area now > geopolitically known as Norway. > > It gets a bit more finite, but not sufficiently so to work in a > genealogical sense. Consider the matings and migration over 50,000 years. > > By mtDNA, I am cousin to Cal Boyd and also Bennett Greenspan of FTDNA. Our > relationships cannot be traced through doumentation and never will be. I > track genealogically to Bavaria in the 1700s. Cal tracks to Ireland and > Bennett tracks to Israel. My mmtDNA has fewer mutations than theirs. > > Given H mtDNA I am also cousin to the man who owned the massage school I > attended. A more distant cousin. > > All are on the maternal side. We happen to cross paths in modern times. > > When I had my mtDNA tested I sent my results to my siblings and every known > relative who descends from my most distant female Ancestress. We all share > the same mtDNA. > > In general mtDNA is of archaeological interest rather than genealogical > interest. There are the more rare instances of it helping to solve a > genealogical puzzle. Do a Google search on Jesse James' burial site. > > And now. I suggest we move any further discussion of. DNA to the Boyd-DNA > list. > > Yours Aye, > > Lauren > > Boyd List Admin > Boyd DNA list Admin > Stewart DNA list Admin > Clark DNA list Admin > Co-Founder of the Boyd DNA project (2001-2002) > Instigator of the Clan Stewart DNA Project (2001-...) > Team Member, now a Project Administrator, Scottish DNA project (2002) > Dates listed are reflective of the birth of the projects listed > ==================== > *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** > > > Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. > > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > ====================================== > > > > {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml }}}}}}}} > > > > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games & Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015 Please plan on attending! > > Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > > ______________________________________ > > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! > http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml > > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > > This list is set for replies to go to the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com not just the author of the post. > ==================== > > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact the Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

While some may dislike mtDNA, it clearly has genealogical implications. I won't waste your time on personal stories, just read the facts. "{Maternal line: the Mitochondrial-DNA is passed on from the mother to her children. All children from the same mother have the same Mitochondrial-DNA. A mitochondrial DNA test tells you where your maternal ancestors come from. The mtDNA test shows not only the origin of your maternal ancestors, but also with whom you are related in the maternal line. You can use the results of your mitochondrial DNA test both for searching for relatives all over the world or for a regional project." https://www.igenea.com/en/mitochondrial-dna -- Colin Brooks The 1718 Project CB1718project@gmail.com

It is not a matter of like or nnot like. It is a matter of science. mtDNA only mutates within every 5,000 to 10 ,000 years. Every person who is a H (forexample) descends from the same Ancient Mother. That makes us cousins. The origin of our mtDNA comes from the area now geopolitically known as Norway. It gets a bit more finite, but not sufficiently so to work in a genealogical sense. Consider the matings and migration over 50,000 years. By mtDNA, I am cousin to Cal Boyd and also Bennett Greenspan of FTDNA. Our relationships cannot be traced through doumentation and never will be. I track genealogically to Bavaria in the 1700s. Cal tracks to Ireland and Bennett tracks to Israel. My mmtDNA has fewer mutations than theirs. Given H mtDNA I am also cousin to the man who owned the massage school I attended. A more distant cousin. All are on the maternal side. We happen to cross paths in modern times. When I had my mtDNA tested I sent my results to my siblings and every known relative who descends from my most distant female Ancestress. We all share the same mtDNA. In general mtDNA is of archaeological interest rather than genealogical interest. There are the more rare instances of it helping to solve a genealogical puzzle. Do a Google search on Jesse James' burial site. And now. I suggest we move any further discussion of. DNA to the Boyd-DNA list. Yours Aye, Lauren Boyd List Admin Boyd DNA list Admin Stewart DNA list Admin Clark DNA list Admin Co-Founder of the Boyd DNA project (2001-2002) Instigator of the Clan Stewart DNA Project (2001-...) Team Member, now a Project Administrator, Scottish DNA project (2002) Dates listed are reflective of the birth of the projects listed