Do any list members live in Norfolk, England, so that they can do some research the above. He married Alen Fitz Flaad’s wife Aveline de Hesdin, as his second wife and had to children – Simon and a daughter (whose name I can’t recall at present and who she married) I think in this article, it said that Robert’s two sons from the first marriage became – in time – Sheriff’s of Norfolk after their father. If there are no Boyds living in Norfolk, perhaps there are records in London or some other locations within England that someone might wish to volunteer search . Thank you for this assistance to find out where in Brittany our Origins are. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS

Barry, I may have contacted you a long way back as the name certainly rings bells fort me however, I have not as yet resolved my Boyd line of Swansea NSW Australia. The only fact I have is that William Boyd was my great grandfather, ( his daughter Maud Gertrude Boyd was my grandmother ). The problem I have is that I cannot get beyond William Boyd to find out where his family initiated. In other words that afore mentioned William Boyd would be my great grandfather and his daughter Maud Gertrude Boyd was my grandmother. Barry, for whatever reason I do not appear to be able to get beyond the two brothers os Swansea in NSW Australia. Is there in any way you can point me in the correct direction to research this Boyd line. If you could assist in any way I would be most grateful. Hoping you can assist with this prob. Sincerely, Warren Stoddart Lake Macquarie NSW

Barry, I am so excited about your Boyd research, theories and discoveries. I am actually going to be in Scotland while you are in PA but please keep me posted and I would be happy to help out in any way I can. I hope to see these Haplo A and Compass PA Boyds unraveled sometime soon! Sallie Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 25, 2016, at 8:57 AM, Barry Boyd <bwb@dallasavionics.com> wrote: > > Sallie, > Perhaps you and I can set an appointment to peruse the Buchanan papers the Tuesday after the AGM. That would be the nineteenth or 20th. > I am coming through Lancaster on the way home. The plan is to find where the old Boyd spinsters lived near Sadsbury and Compass. And locate and identify the Tavern that Margaret Boyd and her Hamilton husband operated on the "old Pike". The four marriage proofs are in the register at St. Johns, Compass. I am going there on Monday. > > It is my true belief that we are looking at the famous "White Horse tavern" which the Buchanan family owned. I would like to know for sure if this Hamilton who married Margaret daughter of George and Isabell built it. Their suit against James was as famous as the suit against Slaymaker. > > The Slaymaker book says that the Tavern was at "The corner" of the Boyd place. > > "New Miltown" is most likely where George had his mill and if the property went all the way from White Horse to Mill town then it envelops the Pequea creek on both sides. We know from White Chimneys that these Boyds had a system for floating their tobacco, grain, whiskey, and goods down the Pequea to safe Harbor on the Susquehanna. If you follow this creek from google earth view you can see that it flows through Paradise, thence to "New Danville"(a name i find most interesting). Prior to the construction of the road from Philadelphia to Lancaster, and George the first died fifty years before the road came through, this creek and river system was the only way to get stuff out. > > Amos Slaymakers original place was just beyod the Gap on the north side of what is now called The Lincoln highway. > > This all fits. So where is the house that Henry Slaymaker refers to as "The Old Boyd Mansion" where Isabell and Mary, the two sisters of the four uncles lived their whole lives and after them Alston the lawyer son of Robert Jr., their great nephew, took up residence during the twenty years of the court case? > > This house should still stand somewhere in this area. > > https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0236312,-76.011044,2901m/data=!3m1!1e3 > > Barry Boyd in Dallas > > > > > > >> On 4/21/2016 3:56 PM, Sallie Ketcham wrote: >> You and the list may already be aware of this, but there are also papers regarding the Boyd/Rea/Irwin/Leech families of Sadsbury in the James Buchanan files at the Lancaster County History Society. I haven't read them. >> >> http://lancasterhistory.org/archives/recent-acquisitions/3323-archives-acquisitions-summer-2014 >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Apr 21, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Barry Boyd via <boyd@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >>> I am excited. >>> There is no longer any need for me to rumble through the box for all the >>> stuff we didn't have. >>> It's all on line. >>> woo hoo >>> >>> http://lancasterhistory.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=977:samuel-r-slaymaker-ii-white-chimneys-collection-series-2-1759-1928&catid=37:manuscript-groups&Itemid=57 >>> ==================== >>> *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** >>> >>> >>> Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. >>> >>> Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. >>> ====================================== >>> >>> >>> >>> {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? 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Sallie, Perhaps you and I can set an appointment to peruse the Buchanan papers the Tuesday after the AGM. That would be the nineteenth or 20th. I am coming through Lancaster on the way home. The plan is to find where the old Boyd spinsters lived near Sadsbury and Compass. And locate and identify the Tavern that Margaret Boyd and her Hamilton husband operated on the "old Pike". The four marriage proofs are in the register at St. Johns, Compass. I am going there on Monday. It is my true belief that we are looking at the famous "White Horse tavern" which the Buchanan family owned. I would like to know for sure if this Hamilton who married Margaret daughter of George and Isabell built it. Their suit against James was as famous as the suit against Slaymaker. The Slaymaker book says that the Tavern was at "The corner" of the Boyd place. "New Miltown" is most likely where George had his mill and if the property went all the way from White Horse to Mill town then it envelops the Pequea creek on both sides. We know from White Chimneys that these Boyds had a system for floating their tobacco, grain, whiskey, and goods down the Pequea to safe Harbor on the Susquehanna. If you follow this creek from google earth view you can see that it flows through Paradise, thence to "New Danville"(a name i find most interesting). Prior to the construction of the road from Philadelphia to Lancaster, and George the first died fifty years before the road came through, this creek and river system was the only way to get stuff out. Amos Slaymakers original place was just beyod the Gap on the north side of what is now called The Lincoln highway. This all fits. So where is the house that Henry Slaymaker refers to as "The Old Boyd Mansion" where Isabell and Mary, the two sisters of the four uncles lived their whole lives and after them Alston the lawyer son of Robert Jr., their great nephew, took up residence during the twenty years of the court case? This house should still stand somewhere in this area. https://www.google.com/maps/@40.0236312,-76.011044,2901m/data=!3m1!1e3 Barry Boyd in Dallas On 4/21/2016 3:56 PM, Sallie Ketcham wrote: > You and the list may already be aware of this, but there are also > papers regarding the Boyd/Rea/Irwin/Leech families of Sadsbury in the > James Buchanan files at the Lancaster County History Society. I > haven't read them. > > http://lancasterhistory.org/archives/recent-acquisitions/3323-archives-acquisitions-summer-2014 > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Apr 21, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Barry Boyd via <boyd@rootsweb.com > <mailto:boyd@rootsweb.com>> wrote: > >> I am excited. >> There is no longer any need for me to rumble through the box for all the >> stuff we didn't have. >> It's all on line. >> woo hoo >> >> http://lancasterhistory.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=977:samuel-r-slaymaker-ii-white-chimneys-collection-series-2-1759-1928&catid=37:manuscript-groups&Itemid=57 >> ==================== >> *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message >> may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive >> quoting. *** >> >> >> Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the >> limits when replying. >> >> Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. >> ====================================== >> >> >> >> {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? 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Are there any members of this list researching Boyd families in around Killybegs, Bruckless, Dunkinnley and Inver on the northern shore of Donegal Bay? Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust.

You talked to Boyd Gray I assume? > -- Colin Brooks The 1718 Project CB1718project@gmail.com

You and the list may already be aware of this, but there are also papers regarding the Boyd/Rea/Irwin/Leech families of Sadsbury in the James Buchanan files at the Lancaster County History Society. I haven't read them. http://lancasterhistory.org/archives/recent-acquisitions/3323-archives-acquisitions-summer-2014 Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 21, 2016, at 2:53 PM, Barry Boyd via <boyd@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I am excited. > There is no longer any need for me to rumble through the box for all the > stuff we didn't have. > It's all on line. > woo hoo > > http://lancasterhistory.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=977:samuel-r-slaymaker-ii-white-chimneys-collection-series-2-1759-1928&catid=37:manuscript-groups&Itemid=57 > ==================== > *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** > > > Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. > > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > ====================================== > > > > {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml }}}}}}}} > > > > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games & Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015 Please plan on attending! > > Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > > ______________________________________ > > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! > http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml > > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > > This list is set for replies to go to the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com not just the author of the post. > ==================== > > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact the Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am excited. There is no longer any need for me to rumble through the box for all the stuff we didn't have. It's all on line. woo hoo http://lancasterhistory.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=977:samuel-r-slaymaker-ii-white-chimneys-collection-series-2-1759-1928&catid=37:manuscript-groups&Itemid=57

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone -------- Original message -------- From: Lauren Boyd McLachlan via <boyd@rootsweb.com> Date: 04/21/2016 12:31 PM (GMT-05:00) To: boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] ADMIN NOTE. CROSS POTINGS. Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Boyds of Dunluce, County Antrim 1624 Boyd list subscribers: Due to Mike Boyd's method of cross-posting to other rootsweb lists, we will find that there is a delay in some of the responses to some of his posts. This is because they respond on the list that they subscribe to and it comes over to the server for the boyd list. I must then manually review everything that gets caught on the server in order to capture the valuable information that Mike is hoping to share in his research on behalf of all of us Boyd and Boyd descendants. As rootsweb no longer seems to have a viable spam filter I must wade through 200 or so pieces of spam daily in order that the replies to Mike's post on another list are not simply deleted. Please make note of the fact that the replies that have gone from other list are generally sent by people who are not subscribed to the Boyd list. Unless you use reply all when responding to  the message they are not likely to see any reply from you on the Boyd list to them on whatever other list they're on. Please also remove the address of the other list so as not to generate additional work for the other admins. There apparently is no way to overcome this and this fact alone keeps me from setting the parameters on a list so that those who are not subscribed to the list cannot have any post come to the list making it so I don't have to spend time daily rooting through mostly spam. Although that would save me a lot of time daily, we may lose some valuable information. So I will continue to wade through a thousand pieces of spam etcetera so that we don't miss the handful of good information posts that come through and are trapped on the server. The way that Ancestry has made things wotk( that is broke it ) it is also very difficult for me to actually see the content of the message that is coming through from the other list. However I can only assure that it's not going to be spam. Thanks for your understanding. Yours Aye, Lauren Boyd List Admin ==================== *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. ====================================== {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you?  You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor.  Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml   }}}}}}}} House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games &  Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015              Please plan on attending! Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. ______________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan.  Join the House of Boyd Society! http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml ==================== Need to contact the Admin?  Want to discuss an Admin Note?  Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com ==================== This list is set for replies to go to the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com not just the author of the post.  ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was?  Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd ==================== Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list?  Write the Help Desk for assistance   http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers.  The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road?  Contact the Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org ==================== Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org ==================== For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml **************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As a Child, my Minister was Rev. Alfred Martin in N. Ireland, he became Moderator of the Presbyterian Church in Ireland 1966 1. 1966 Alfred Martin M.A. (Lowe Memorial, Finaghy) Francis (Frank) Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "DIB . via" <boyd@rootsweb.com> To: "Colin Brooks" <cb1718project@gmail.com> Cc: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com, "boyd" <boyd@rootsweb.com>, irl-antrim@rootsweb.com, "Lee Ramsey" <lkramsey@comcast.net> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 3:14:04 AM Subject: Re: [BOYD] [IRL-ANTRIM] Boyds of Dunluce, County Antrim 1624 There were possibly very early on McMartins in co. Antrim. I see that there was a place called Court McMartin down near Cushendall, which is a likely location for the property of a Scottish McMartin family *This is my new email address>>> L.Lunney@ria.ie <L.Lunney@ria.ie> Please use it if possibl*e Dr Linde Lunney Dictionary of Irish Biography Royal Irish Academy Dublin 2 Ireland On 18 April 2016 at 15:38, Colin Brooks <cb1718project@gmail.com> wrote: > May I suggest that Catherine Mcgdmartine is actually a MARTIN. Martin > family is in Dunluce in 1624 and 1622 in Coleraine. Very small family based > on census records but specifically located in exact same spots as Boyd > families in northern Ireland going back to near Plantation times. > > > > > -- > Colin Brooks > The 1718 Project > CB1718project@gmail.com > ==================== *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. ====================================== {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml }}}}}}}} House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games & Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015 Please plan on attending! Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. ______________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com ==================== This list is set for replies to go to the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com not just the author of the post. ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd ==================== Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact the Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org ==================== Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org ==================== For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml **************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Boyd list subscribers: Due to Mike Boyd's method of cross-posting to other rootsweb lists, we will find that there is a delay in some of the responses to some of his posts. This is because they respond on the list that they subscribe to and it comes over to the server for the boyd list. I must then manually review everything that gets caught on the server in order to capture the valuable information that Mike is hoping to share in his research on behalf of all of us Boyd and Boyd descendants. As rootsweb no longer seems to have a viable spam filter I must wade through 200 or so pieces of spam daily in order that the replies to Mike's post on another list are not simply deleted. Please make note of the fact that the replies that have gone from other list are generally sent by people who are not subscribed to the Boyd list. Unless you use reply all when responding to the message they are not likely to see any reply from you on the Boyd list to them on whatever other list they're on. Please also remove the address of the other list so as not to generate additional work for the other admins. There apparently is no way to overcome this and this fact alone keeps me from setting the parameters on a list so that those who are not subscribed to the list cannot have any post come to the list making it so I don't have to spend time daily rooting through mostly spam. Although that would save me a lot of time daily, we may lose some valuable information. So I will continue to wade through a thousand pieces of spam etcetera so that we don't miss the handful of good information posts that come through and are trapped on the server. The way that Ancestry has made things wotk( that is broke it ) it is also very difficult for me to actually see the content of the message that is coming through from the other list. However I can only assure that it's not going to be spam. Thanks for your understanding. Yours Aye, Lauren Boyd List Admin

Cairncastle is likewise down the coast from Dunluce *This is my new email address>>> L.Lunney@ria.ie <L.Lunney@ria.ie> Please use it if possibl*e Dr Linde Lunney Dictionary of Irish Biography Royal Irish Academy Dublin 2 Ireland On 19 April 2016 at 10:14, DIB . <dib@ucd.ie> wrote: > There were possibly very early on McMartins in co. Antrim. I see that > there was a place called Court McMartin down near Cushendall, which is a > likely location for the property of a Scottish McMartin family > > *This is my new email address>>> L.Lunney@ria.ie <L.Lunney@ria.ie> > Please use it if possibl*e > Dr Linde Lunney > Dictionary of Irish Biography > Royal Irish Academy > Dublin 2 > Ireland > > On 18 April 2016 at 15:38, Colin Brooks <cb1718project@gmail.com> wrote: > >> May I suggest that Catherine Mcgdmartine is actually a MARTIN. Martin >> family is in Dunluce in 1624 and 1622 in Coleraine. Very small family based >> on census records but specifically located in exact same spots as Boyd >> families in northern Ireland going back to near Plantation times. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Colin Brooks >> The 1718 Project >> CB1718project@gmail.com >> > >

There were possibly very early on McMartins in co. Antrim. I see that there was a place called Court McMartin down near Cushendall, which is a likely location for the property of a Scottish McMartin family *This is my new email address>>> L.Lunney@ria.ie <L.Lunney@ria.ie> Please use it if possibl*e Dr Linde Lunney Dictionary of Irish Biography Royal Irish Academy Dublin 2 Ireland On 18 April 2016 at 15:38, Colin Brooks <cb1718project@gmail.com> wrote: > May I suggest that Catherine Mcgdmartine is actually a MARTIN. Martin > family is in Dunluce in 1624 and 1622 in Coleraine. Very small family based > on census records but specifically located in exact same spots as Boyd > families in northern Ireland going back to near Plantation times. > > > > > -- > Colin Brooks > The 1718 Project > CB1718project@gmail.com >

Thank you Colin and Linde for those suggestions. COULD the "Mcgd" of the Surname have been a second Christian name? Or her family being Scottish, some one has used "Mc" but I can't guess what the "gd" part might be in 1624 writing - or is that just pen stokes joining the "Mc" and "Martin"? >From the Will of 1624, I would estimate that William and Catherine might have married about 1600, but I COULD NOT SAY if it was in Scotland or Ireland. William had a number of Lands, seems to have been a "merchant" at Dunluce. So could he have been a merchant working [or friend of] for the Earl of Antrim and over time bought some lands from him? Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Colin Brooks via Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2016 12:38 AM To: DIB . ; irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Cc: AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com ; boyd Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Boyds of Dunluce, County Antrim 1624 May I suggest that Catherine Mcgdmartine is actually a MARTIN. Martin family is in Dunluce in 1624 and 1622 in Coleraine. Very small family based on census records but specifically located in exact same spots as Boyd families in northern Ireland going back to near Plantation times. -- Colin Brooks The 1718 Project CB1718project@gmail.com

>From the "Prerogatory Wills of Ireland 1510-1856" indexed at UHF, the occupation of William Boyd of Dunluce is that of a "gentleman", with a probate date of 1628. This lends credence to his being found among the most successful and well-educated families of distinction. His position would be consistent with that of the landed gentry, living entirely from rental income. He also named in his will Andrew Moneypenny, Archdeacon of Connor and William Fenton, minister of Cairn castle; Sir Wm. Kennedy was to receive Boyd's best sword and John Wallace his fowling piece. Lee Ramsey William had a number of Lands, seems to have been a "merchant" at Dunluce. So could he have been a merchant working [or friend of] for the Earl of Antrim and over time bought some lands from him? Mike Boyd May I suggest that Catherine Mcgdmartine is actually a MARTIN. Martin family is in Dunluce in 1624 and 1622 in Coleraine. Very small family based on census records but specifically located in exact same spots as Boyd families in northern Ireland going back to near Plantation times. Colin Brooks The 1718 Project CB1718project@gmail.com

May I suggest that Catherine Mcgdmartine is actually a MARTIN. Martin family is in Dunluce in 1624 and 1622 in Coleraine. Very small family based on census records but specifically located in exact same spots as Boyd families in northern Ireland going back to near Plantation times. -- Colin Brooks The 1718 Project CB1718project@gmail.com

Re Dunlop of Craig https://books.google.ie/books?id=Fw7rVcjbP3QC&pg=PA32&dq=Dunlop+craig+antrim&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwje6Pmx3ZfMAhXBbhQKHY0eCTAQ6AEIGzAA#v=onepage&q=Dunlop%20craig%20antrim&f=false I think McNaughten is possible Portcaman is another name for Bushmills. "Mr" would commonly be used as an honorific for ministers Linde *This is my new email address>>> L.Lunney@ria.ie <L.Lunney@ria.ie> Please use it if possibl*e Dr Linde Lunney Dictionary of Irish Biography Royal Irish Academy Dublin 2 Ireland On 15 April 2016 at 03:37, Lee Ramsey via <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> wrote: > This raises some QUESTIONS. > > A) “my weil beloved wyffe Catherine Mcgdmartine” What would be > spelling of his wife’s surname? > > --------Do not find Catherine mentioned in the abstracts in Rev. David > Stewart's "The Scots in Ulster." Stewart list the executors, the children, > a sister, in-laws and others. Could the difficult transcription be > Macnaghton. The Macnaghtons were among the settlers of Sir Randal > Macdonnell lands, along with the Boyds, Browns, Dicks, Dunlops, Hamiltons, > Hutchins, Kennedys, Macauleys, Mackays, Moores, Shaws, and Stewarts. > There were several McNaughtons: (1) John McNaughton; (2) Alexander > McNaughton of Ballymaganog, Dunluce, who was agent for his cousin, the Earl > of Antrim; and (3) Alexander McNaughton of Craigfreddock. > > B) “trustie freinds Wm. Dunlop laird off Crage” What location is the > “laird off Crage”? I have for some years ASSUMED it was Craigie in > Ayrshire, but this was Wallace lands and not Dunlop lands, so can some give > me a suggestion as to where this land might be in Scotland? > > -------William Dunlop, Laird of Crage in Scotland. Most likely this is > the Parish of Craig in former Forfarshire. One's parish was commonly used > as a person's locale. > > C) “Mr. Wm. Wallace “ There is no location given for him, so was he a > merchant in Dunluce? Does any know what branch of the Wallace’s he might > come from. > > --------William Wallace, executor of Wm. Boyd's will, was minister of > Portcoman (Dunluce). I do not find a reference for the "Portcoman" place > name. Most likely county Antrim. > > Lee Ramsey > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In the book, An Historical Account of the MACDONNELS Of Antrim: Including Notices of some other Septs, Irish and Scottish, Rev George Hill, 1873, pp 389-393, it provides this outline of the Will of William Boyd of Dunluce, 1624 in the third paragraph it has_ - “(iii) As to my good and chatteles, I bequesthe them as followeth - First, I do appoynt and ordaine my weil beloved wyffe Catherine Mcgdmartine and my faithfull and trustie freinds Wm. Dunlop laird off Crage, and Thomas Boyd off Carncogie, and Mr Wm. Wallace to be exeacutors off this my will underwryten and intromettary wt my wyff jioyntlie and severally wt all my goods and chattelis rights and creditis whatsoever (to the performinge my will as heireunder is expressed). (See p. 72, supra)” This raises some QUESTIONS. A) “my weil beloved wyffe Catherine Mcgdmartine” What would be spelling of his wife’s surname? B) “trustie freinds Wm. Dunlop laird off Crage” What location is the “laird off Crage”? I have for some years ASSUMED it was Craigie in Ayrshire, but this was Wallace lands and not Dunlop lands, so can some give me a suggestion as to where this land might be in Scotland? C) “Mr Wm. Wallace “ There is no location given for him, so was he a merchant in Dunluce? Does any know what branch of the Wallace’s he might come from. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust

Mike et all, I think we are close to having enough information now to definitely sort them out with a bit of certainty, at least enough to narrow down the remaining questions. One of the problems we face is 'where is Halifax county?'. The second and larger question is 'where, exactly, were these Boyds located?'. Halifax county was founded in 1752. The county seat at that time was Peytonsburg, a stop on the road now in Pittsylvania county. The county seat was moved to the new town of Halifax in 1800. This was a major crossroad along the great wagon road system of old trading paths. It is right along these trading paths that we can follow our Boyds as they fanned out form here on the Dan River. Due south from Halifax on the central road was Boyds ferry crossing of the Dan River in what is now the town of South Boston. Now, in 1752 when Halifax county was carved out of Lunenburg county- the folks living here didn't really know where the "state line" was so they just kinda used the river. Boyds were on Both sides. Which courthouse they went to to do business was largely based on where the closest courthouse was and not necessarily which county they actually lived in. Halifax county at its founding extended all the way to the Blue ridge mountains and from there was exclusive to Natives. When exactly Patrick came to this crossing may never be known. He was here long before the road or the county came. His settlement was quite a ways up the river from Johns ferry landing, up Lawsons creek which flows to Virginia from Granville county North Carolina. I believe he was most likely a close friend or possibly a companion of John Lawson as a young man. Anyway, when he got there he was far far out of the reach of the royal government. The road came with his brother, John, and their ferry business which was established in the same place but in Lunenburg county. There are two separate warrants as he had to re- apply after the forming of the new county. This area was from 1745 until 1752 in Lunenburg county. Most of the records from the Slaymaker/Boyd family are Lunenburg county. This is where it gets sticky.as Lunenburg county also included what is now Mecklenburg county which wasn't established until 1764. Boydton is the capital of Mecklenburg county. The Boyds of Boydton are not related to the Boyds on the Dan River that I can show. In fact there seems to be a small bit of animosity. All throu-out this area of where the Dan, the Banister, and the Roanoke Rivers all come together is littered with Boyds- from both families. So to directly answer the question it is the Mecklenburg Boyds of Boytstown that are sometimes confused. In addition there is the Robert Boyd and Ann Pope family of northern neck of Virginia. Some of them came to Halifax county, but much later. Most of the Boyd had burned out their tobacco fields and moved on by then. This has caused much confusion and many have crossed and blended their research. I see it all the time on Ancestry and these mistakes have been propagated. I am one of the guilty I know. But by diligence, now that the Slaymaker/Boyd are sorted out it is just a matter of elimination. I will work out the locations of where these Dan river Boyd were. I just found where James and Robert went to in North Carolina. They were gone as the road came through in 1756. Roberts place was off the Haw river on both sides of Reedy creek west of the Hillsborough colony. He had a ferry crossing there. James had his crossing at Knapp of Reeds. What the researcher first needs is a map from the area of search showing the lay of the land as it was then. Many names of creeks and rivers have changed. Most stay the same. Few towns that were, still are- and few that still are, were extant then. Also, these Boyds of Dan river built the roads that the conestoga wagons came on all the way to Georgia and through Pickens district South Carolina into Tennessee by 18oo. The various collections of county records tell the story but the problem is that they seem to have kept moving. The key is in the early road maps and property records. It would be a worthwhile intellectual exercise to take a snapshot in time, say the outbreak of the revolution 1776. And nail down where each of these family units were at that specific time and who were the children among them. Barry in Dallas On 4/7/2016 2:43 AM, Mike Boyd via wrote: > I know that there are two separate Boyd families in Halifax County, Virginia. One being the four sons of George and Isabella Boyd of Compass\s, PA but the second family came form some where else and also settled in Halifax County. > > Can anyone on this list recall where this second family might have come from? 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Do any members of this list come form the Boyds of Ballytober, near Bushmills – which seem to have been there from 1624? Thank you Mike Boyd From: DIB . Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 10:56 PM To: Mike Boyd ; irl-antrim@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Who is "Thomas Boyd of Bellihabrett" The placenames are all local. I suggest possibly that the Bellihabrett is a misreading of Ballytibbert which is a former version or a local pronounciation still heard of "Ballytober" which is about two miles from Dunluce and one mile from Bushmills; I think Ballyhalbert is unlikely LL On 12 April 2016 at 10:16, Mike Boyd via <irl-antrim@rootsweb.com> wrote: In the book An Historical Account of the MACDONNELS Of Antrim: Including Notices of some other Septs, Irish and Scottish, Rev George Hill, 1873, pp 389-393, it provides this outline of the Will of William Boyd of Dunluce, 1624. In one of the last Clauses of this Will of 1624 it says: - “ Appendix III Will of William Boyd of Duncluce, 1624 ... (xxx) Lastly, I will and appoynt fatfull and well-loved ffreinds, Mr Andrew Monpenny archdeacon off Coner, Wm Dunlape the lard of Crage, Thomas Boyd of Carncogie, Archibald Boyd off Carncualagh, Archibald Stewart off Bellilachmore, and my son in law Walter Kennedie, John Logane off the Bosthmiles, Thomas Boyd of Bellihabrett, to be overseers yt this my will and laste Testament shall duly be performed in all poynts reservinge the interpretaone off itt to them or any fowre or more off, iff any question shall happen to arise, qr off Thomas Boyd and Mr Wm. Wallace shall be two.” The first seven of these names would appear to be from County Antrim. However where does “Thomas Boyd of Bellihabrett” come from? I had for about a decade ASSUMED it was a townland in County Antrim, but a member of our New Windsor Boyd research group, who came from Ballyhalbert, Ards Peninsular, County Down, has just suggested that “Ballihabrett” could be the 1624 spelling for Ballyhalbert. Colonel David Boyd, the natural son of the 5th Lord Boyd, came to Greyabbey Parish in 1606, with his 5th or 6th cousin Sir Hugh Montgomery. This Colonel Boyd’s third son was called Thomas Boyd is thought to be the one that died in 1660 at Portavogie, Ards Penisular. It is not know when he was born (but one of his sons became the Boyds of Glentry), so is this Thomas Boyd old enough to in the Will of William Boyd of Dunluce in 1624? It is also known that Boyds (more than one but number not known) came in 1566 from Carrick, Ayrshire. The only known Boyd family in Carrick, Ayrshire was Adam Boyd of Penkill, who had two named sons – Robert of Penkill and James of Trochrig – and three un-named sons. These three un-named son by 1566, would have been in their 20’s years of age. So COULD/MIGHT Thomas Boyd of Carncogie; Archibald Boyd off Carncualagh, and William Boyd of Dunluce have been the second generation of these Boyds of “Carrick, Ayreshire”? I only have these names – and no family – so do not know if there might be any DNA matches. So all these Boyds might have had a common ancestor in Alexander Boyd, the next brother after Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran, who died between 1500 and 1510. So could the son of Colonel David Boyd, Thomas Boyd in the Ards Peninsular, County Down, have been a friend of William Boyd of Dunluce, Antrim, in 1624? OR IS THERE ANOTHER TOWNLAND NEAR DUNLUCE that this “Bellihabrett” could represent Thank you for any comments Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-ANTRIM-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message