Has any list member seen Cottage in Girvan? Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS -----Original Message----- From: Barry Boyd Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 3:47 AM To: Mike Boyd ; boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd of Penkill in 1753 His brother Spencer, was confirmed as the 12th "Laird of" Penkill in 1792 and returned to the the ancient Scottish homeland. As the castle was in ruins he took up residence in Girvan and built a lovely little cottage called "Piedmont Cottage" on ancient Boyd lands that were part of this ancient estate. He died in 1807.

Do any of our cousins live near Princeton University? If so could you volunteer to go an look at these papers please to see what is included in them on members of this family? I can send you privately the two chapters that I have on these two Cadet Branches of the Boyd, so you can see what is "currently know about this family. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS -----Original Message----- From: Barry Boyd Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 3:47 AM To: Mike Boyd ; boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd of Penkill in 1753 Mike, well that's kinda right but not really. His name was not Robert. His son James was served as heir in 1782 and is numbered as 11th Lord Penkill but being a confirmed American who lived in the comfort and freedom of his newly born country he also had no desire for a drafty old Scottish castle laying in ruins and remained in Virginia and died without issue. He was a loyal Whig Royalist whose collection of papers is in the possession of Princeton University and should be studied by one of us at some point for more about this family and their dealings in Virginia.

until very recently, it was for sale. Here is the old listing. I hope the link still works http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-23245672.html Barry On 5/23/2016 1:48 AM, Mike Boyd wrote: > Has any list member seen Cottage in Girvan? > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > -----Original Message----- From: Barry Boyd Sent: Thursday, May 19, > 2016 3:47 AM To: Mike Boyd ; boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOYD] > Boyd of Penkill in 1753 > His brother Spencer, was confirmed as the 12th "Laird of" Penkill in > 1792 and returned to the the ancient Scottish homeland. As the castle > was in ruins he took up residence in Girvan and built a lovely little > cottage called "Piedmont Cottage" on ancient Boyd lands that were part > of this ancient estate. He died in 1807. > >

Hi Mike I believe it is a part of a farm or was a farm cottage at one time. Don't know if it still stands tho. John Stewart Sent from my iPod > On 23 May 2016, at 07:48, Mike Boyd via <boyd@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Has any list member seen Cottage in Girvan? > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Boyd > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 3:47 AM > To: Mike Boyd ; boyd@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd of Penkill in 1753 > > His brother Spencer, was confirmed as the 12th "Laird of" Penkill in > 1792 and returned to the the ancient Scottish homeland. As the castle > was in ruins he took up residence in Girvan and built a lovely little > cottage called "Piedmont Cottage" on ancient Boyd lands that were part > of this ancient estate. He died in 1807. > > > ==================== > *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** > > > Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. > > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > ====================================== > > > > {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml }}}}}}}} > > > > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games & Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015 Please plan on attending! > > Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > > ______________________________________ > > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! > http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml > > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > > This list is set for replies to go to the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com not just the author of the post. > ==================== > > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact the Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

[1]ancestry This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: wrightjenie Surnames: BOYD, DONNELLY, DONNELY, BATES, NORRIS, COFFIN, MEELY, LUNDY Classification: queries Message Board: [2]Click here Message Board Post: July 16, 1845 --- April 26, 1925 DEATH CLAIMS JAMES L. BOYD Father of Mrs. H. R. Norris; Victim of Heart Failure About 9:00 P. M. Sunday James L. Boyd died at the home of his daughter, Mrs. H. R. Norris, Sunday evening about 9:30 o'clock. Death was probably instantaneous. He had retired to his room about nine o'clock. About an hour later Mrs. Norris discovered that the light in his room was still burning. On entering the room he was found lying on the floor. A doctor was summoned and it was his opinion that Mr. Boyd had been dead perhaps a half hour. Mrs. Norris remembers hearing a slight noise in his room, similar to raising or lowering a window but thought nothing of it. Mr. Boyd had been in his usual good health all winter, except for the past three weeks when he had been bothered a little with a cold and grip. He laid off but a few days from his work in the roundhouse and worked Saturday as usual. He was 75 years of age. He was employed by the North Western at the round house, where he was beloved by both the officials and his fellow employees. He was genial and obliging with everybody. Mrs. Boyd died about six years ago. The Eagle joins the sorrowing relatives in the hour of their great affliction. James L. Boyd was born in Ireland, July 16, 1849. His early life was spent in England, county of Durham. He was united in marriage with Miss Mary Donnely in England. They came to America about the year 1870. Thirteen children were born to this union, five of whom survive. They are Mrs. Mary Bates, Brazil, Iowa: John W. Boyd, Chadron, Neb.; Mrs. J. C. Meely, Auburn, Kans.; Mrs. C. F. Coffin, Goodland, Kans.; Mrs. H. R. Norris, Eagle Grove. 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This is the known family according to The Scots Peerage, Vol. V III. ALEXANDER, but for the attainder of 1469 de jure third Lord Boyd, though no evidence can be produced that he ever bore the title of Lord Boyd or was recognized. He was an uncle and heir-male of the preceding, being the second son of the first Lord Boyd. Appointed Chamberlain of Kilmarnock before 2 August 1488, *5 and had a lease of Drumcoll the same year. *6 He had charters of the lands of Ralstoun and others, in the barony of Kilmarnock, 30 November 1492. *7 His accounts as Chamberlain end 15 April 1504, when the Lordship of Kilmarnock was granted to the Queen Margaret (Tudor), the consort of James IV., to whose sasine 19 April 1504 he was a witness. *8 Crawfurd *9 says that he was appointed Chamberlain in 1505, and he has been followed by later writers, but if this date is correct it can only have been a reappointment by the Queen, from whom, on 26 June 1508, he had a tack of the Lordship of Kilmarnock. *10 The date of his death 1. Boyd Papers, iii. 139, 141, 142. 2. Reg. Mag. Sig., i 330, No. 1573. 3. M'Kay's Hist. of Kilmarnock, 32. 4. Mss. Advocates' Library. 5. Exch. Rolls, x. 91 6. Ibid., 637 7. Reg. Mag. Sig. 8. Cal. Doc. Scot., iv. 1737 9. Lives of Officers of State, 317 10. Boyd Papers, iii. 152. 151 has not been ascertained. He is stated to have been a great favourite with King James IV. He married Janet, sister *1 of Sir William and daughter of Sir Robert Colville of Ochiltree. They were related within the third and third and fourth and fourth degrees of consanguinity, and had a dispensation for the marriage already contracted between them and legitimising the children already born, 23 November 1505. *2 They had issue:- 1. ROBERT, his heir, of whom presently. 2. Thomas, ancestor of the Boyds of Pitcon. He had a charter of the lands of Linn, a property in the parish of Dalry, Ayrshire, wherein he is designed 'brother-german to Robert Boyd in Kilmarnock, in May 1532.' *3 He died in 1547. By his will, dated 8 November 1547, and confirmed at Glasgow 11 April 1548, he directs his body to be interred in the family burial ground at Kilmarnock, and appoints John Fernlye (Fairlie) of that ilk, Thomas Boyd, his son, and Robert Lord Boyd, executors. *4 He married *5 Marion, daughter of John Fairlie of that ilk, who survived him, and married, as second wife, Sir James Stewart of Bute, by whom she was ancestress of the Marquesses of Bute. She was living 11 October 1580. *6 By her Thomas Boyd had two sons, Thomas and Robert, who both fought for Queen Mary at Langside, for which they obtained remissions 8 September 1571. *7 Thomas the elder was of Pitcon in the valley of Dalry, a property which was held by his male descendants until 1770, when Robert Boyd, eighth of Pitcon, sold it to George MacCrae, merchant in Ayr. He had issue, but the male line, so far as is known, is extinct. *8 3. Adam, ancestor of the Boyds of Penkill and Trochrig. He appears as witness with his father and eldest brother 21 November 1546, *9 and died after 21 November 1577. *10 He married apparently before December 1531, *11 1. See her letter applying for a dispensation of her marriage; Boyd Papers, 150. 2. Ibid., 151. 3. Confirmed 11 May, Reg. Mag. Sig. 4. Glas. Com. Rec. 5. Crawfurd's Peerage, 55, citing a charter by Thomas Boyd of Pitcon. 6. See vol. ii. 292. 7. Reg. Mag. Sig. 8. Paterson's History of Ayr, 1847, i. 292. 9. P. C. Reg., i. 151. 10. Robertson's Ayrshire Families, 214. 11. Acta Dom. Conc. et Sess., vi. 79. 152 Helen, widow (with issue) *1 of Robert Graham of Knockdolian, youngest daughter of John Kennedy, second Lord Kennedy (who was still living 22 October 1564, and had issue:- 1. Robert, second of Penkill, whose male issue failed in 1750 on the death of Alexander Boyd, ninth of Penkill. *2 2. Mr. James, of Trochrig, Archbishop of Glasgow, died 21 June 1581. *3 His son Robert, second of Trochrig, the celebrated divine, was great-great grandfather of Robert (not John) Boyd of Trochrig, who on the extinction of the Penkill line in 1750, succeeded to that estate, being served heir-male to his remote cousin Thomas Boyd of Penkill 28 February 1752. *4 He died s.p.m., November 1761, *5 when Trochrig devolved on his daughters Ann and Grace, the former of whom married William Boyd Robertson, and had an only child, a daughter, who sold Trochrig, and Penkill passed to his nephew and heir-male Spencer Boyd, and his descendants were owners in 1847.*6 3._______ a daughter, married to James Chalmers of Sauchrie. *7 4. 5. 6. Three other sons. *8 7. Margaret, *9 wife of George Colquhoun, third of Glens, by whom she had an only daughter and heiress, Margaret, who married her cousin-german, Robert, fifth Lord Boyd. 8. Euphemia, wife of John Logie of Logiealmond in Perthshire, by whom she had issue, a daughter and heiress Margaret, who married the Hon. Thomas Hay, and was mother of the seventh Earl of Erroll. In the birth-brieve under the Great Seal granted to the Lady Isabel Hay, daughter of the ninth Earl of Erroll, by his wife, Lady Elizabeth Douglas, daughter of the Earl of Morton, she is called daughter of Robert (sic), Lord Boyd of Kilmarnock, by his wife, Isabella, daughter of Sir James Colville of Ochiltree. *10 IV. ROBERT, fourth Lord Boyd of Kilmarnock, eldest son and heir of the preceding. According to Crawfurd *12 he was restored to the title of Lord Boyd 1536, and had a grant from King James V., whom he faithfully served 1. See vol. ii 460 2. Paterson's Ayr and Wigton, ii 236. 3. Scott's Fasti, ii. 120, 377. 4. Retours. 5. Ibid. 6. Paterson's Hist. of Ayr, i. 394. 7. Wodrow's MS. Life of Trochrig. 8. Exanimi plane virilis faemina Colvillorum phylarchi filia sex filios suscepit, viros acerrimos et manus juxta consilioque promptissimos; R. Boyd MS. in Bibl. Jurid. 9. Fraser's Chief of Colquhoun, ii. 260; Scottish Antiquary, iv. 78. 10. Reg. Mag. Sig., 30 July 1635. 11. See note 2, p.55. 12. Peerage. Then in the book Family Annals, J. E. Russell, Volume III, 1997, p 649, it says:- “With the murder of the Earl of Arran’s only son, it fell to Lord Boyd’s second son Alexander to carry on the line. He received the Barony of Kilmarnock by a charter of 1492, and as a result of his niece Margaret’s influence with the King, James IV, Alexander was installed as Bailie and Chamberlain for the Kilmarnock Crown Lands in 1505. He was back in charge of the Boyd family lands, even if only as agent for the Crown. This was the beginning of a revival which was to last for over two hundred years. Alexander Boyd was married to Janet, the daughter of Sir Robert Colville of Ochiltree, by whom he had twelve children: of these, only three have left their names in history.” So it would be very good to find the names of these extra three sons or the other unknown four children according to Mr J. E, Russell. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS

It is known that Lord Robert Boyd, third son – Alexander Boyd – the next after Thomas Boyd Earl of Arran had a dispensation in 1505 to marry Janet Colville of Ochitree. J3 Alexander Boyd, b / /144x d / /15xx ( ), died after 1508, the date of his death has not been ascertained, bu , mc / /1505 Janet Colville, sister of Sir William and daughter of Sir Robert Colville of Ochiltree, had a dispensation for the marriage already contracted between them and legitimising the children already born, 23 November 1505 (they were related within the third and third and fourth and fourth degrees of consanguinty) and had issue:- Has anyone tried to find this dispenstation of 1505? I assume it might be in Latin? If not where might this dispensation found today? I am hoping it will name ALL THEIR CHILDREN then living! Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust

Barry What are the other chapters on in your book? Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Barry Boyd Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 3:47 AM To: Mike Boyd ; boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd of Penkill in 1753 Mike, well that's kinda right but not really. His name was not Robert. Since you are inquiring about the line that returned to Scotland from Virginia the subject is more rightly the Boyds of Penkill as Spencer did not inherit Trochraig, only Penkill, but he did so by right of being descended from Robert of Trochrig. As this is a chapter in my soon to be finished book I will skip the prose and give the line. Penkill is by far the most amazing of the Boyd castles in Scotland and the best chapter in the tale of our great family

Barry, can you email me direct please thank you. iwhitehurst@live.come Iona Wright Whitehurst Sent from my iPhone > On May 18, 2016, at 1:47 PM, Barry Boyd via <boyd@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Mike, > > well that's kinda right but not really. His name was not Robert. > > Since you are inquiring about the line that returned to Scotland from > Virginia the subject is more rightly the Boyds of Penkill as Spencer did > not inherit Trochraig, only Penkill, but he did so by right of being > descended from Robert of Trochrig. > > As this is a chapter in my soon to be finished book I will skip the > prose and give the line. > Penkill is by far the most amazing of the Boyd castles in Scotland and > the best chapter in the tale of our great family > > Our story begins with Sir Alexander Boyd brother of Lord Kilmarnock who > was tutor in Arms to the young Stewart prince and future King James III > when the princess Mary was wed to Sir Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran. > > These are his lands in Carrick sometimes referred to as being in Dailly. > He never took posession of them as King James had him killed but the > lands passed to his third son Adam who began the keep in about 1490. The > Muir family claimed these lands and many years later their would be a > chancery court case in which the Boyds won. (More info in the book) > > Adam had two sons: Robert Boyd who extended the castle and lands, James > who built Trochrig House. > > The third Lord Penkill was also Adam, son of Robert, who married a > Kennedy woman and they were in the castle as residence by 1530 and the > castle was strong enough to resist a siege by her father by 1553. This > is the Sir Adam that was among the Boyd knights that formed a circle > about Queen Mary at Langside in 1568 as were his two sons: > > Adam who succeeded his father in 1583, and Sir Alexander Boyd of > Penkill, Knight of the Thistle in Scotland, and Knight of the Lily in > France, better known by his pen name "Mark Alexander" Boyd who traveled > extensively all over Europe as a tournament knight, scholar, poet, and > warrior. and returned home when Robert died to tutor his nephew Thomas > in the military Arts. > > Thomas fifth Lord Penkill, confirmed in 1601, took possession of lands > granted him in Carrick in 1616 which became part of the Dailly estate > (upon this parcel of land just south east of Girvan is where our subject > Spencer Boyd of Virginia would later build a small but beautiful manor > house that still stands called "Piedmont Cottage". He married Marion > Muir whose father left them enough money to greatly expand the castle to > near what we see today. They had two sons -Thomas, and Alexander* who > married Helen Cathcart. > > Thomas sixth Lord Penkill married Anne Melville sister of the Earl of > Melville. They had one son. > > Thomas Seventh Lord Penkill who married Isabell Lindsey daughter of Lord > Balcarras. > > Alexander, their son became the seventh Lord Penkill before 1711 and he > had one daughter who died before he did. So the estate devolved to his > second cousin Alexander, eighth Lord Penkill great grandson of > Alexander* second son of Thomas, above. > > When Alexander eight Lord Penkill died unmarried in 1750 the castle > passed to John Boyd of Trochrig who then styled himself "of Trochrig and > Penkill" but he died without sons. His daughter, Anne, married a fellow > named William Robertson who afterwards styled himself William > Boyd-Robertson "of Trochrig and Penkill". It was their only daughter who > was the last Boyd owner of Trochrig House the castle by this time laying > in ruins. > > So, the castle of Penkill and the Barony that went with it passed to the > closest living male which was John Boyd, a physician in Virginia, by > right of his descent from James Boyd second son of John Boyd of Trochrig. > > Dr. John Boyd was never styled "Lord Penkill" because he had no interest > in the Scottish estates of his distant relatives and was doing quite > well in Virginia. > > His son Spencer also had no desire to move away from Virginia but did > acquire the title and arms from Lord Lyon and was the 10th Lord Penkill. > > His son James was served as heir in 1782 and is numbered as 11th Lord > Penkill but being a confirmed American who lived in the comfort and > freedom of his newly born country he also had no desire for a drafty old > Scottish castle laying in ruins and remained in Virginia and died > without issue. He was a loyal Whig Royalist whose collection of papers > is in the possession of Princeton University and should be studied by > one of us at some point for more about this family and their dealings in > Virginia. > > His brother Spencer, was confirmed as the 12th "Laird of" Penkill in > 1792 and returned to the the ancient Scottish homeland. As the castle > was in ruins he took up residence in Girvan and built a lovely little > cottage called "Piedmont Cottage" on ancient Boyd lands that were part > of this ancient estate. He died in 1807. > > In 1820 his son Spencer 13th Laird who was just a minor when his father > died was confirmed in all his fathers estates. He married Margaret > daughter of William Losh of Newcastle and they had two children- Alice > and Spencer. He died in 1827. > > In 1844 his son Spencer attained his majority and became the 14th Laird > of Penkill. Spencer was a gentleman planter and brought modern farming > into the estate. He sold off many of the surperfluous smaller properties > that were part of the estate. He received a large settlement from his > father in laws will and set about a complete restoration of the castle. > > Upon his death the castle passed to his sister Alice the 15th and last > Laird of Penkill. > > And that is where the really interesting part of the story > begins.................... > > Barry in Dallas > > > >> On 5/16/2016 5:59 PM, Mike Boyd via wrote: >> I have just been sent a message which told me that in 1753, Robert Boyd of Virginia – whom after the male line of the Boyds of Penkill had died out and as he was the next male in the Trochrig Cadet Branch – inherited both Penkill and Trochrig Lairdships. >> >> He is described as being the son of James Boyd, physician near Westpoint upon York River, in Virginia. In 1999 I was told that this James lived in of King and Queen Co. VA. So I am not sure if “Westpoint upon York River” is or was in King and Queen Co., VA in 1753. >> >> Do any members of this list come form these areas of Virginia? Or has any member done any research for any Boyds in this area of Virginia? >> >> I only know about 10 people who are connected to the central Stem of the Head of the Clan and about half of these belong to the Boyds of Penkill and Trochrig. >> >> Thank you >> >> Mike Boyd >> Historical Committee, HBS >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==================== >> *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** >> >> >> Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. >> >> Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. >> ====================================== >> >> >> >> {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? 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Mike, well that's kinda right but not really. His name was not Robert. Since you are inquiring about the line that returned to Scotland from Virginia the subject is more rightly the Boyds of Penkill as Spencer did not inherit Trochraig, only Penkill, but he did so by right of being descended from Robert of Trochrig. As this is a chapter in my soon to be finished book I will skip the prose and give the line. Penkill is by far the most amazing of the Boyd castles in Scotland and the best chapter in the tale of our great family Our story begins with Sir Alexander Boyd brother of Lord Kilmarnock who was tutor in Arms to the young Stewart prince and future King James III when the princess Mary was wed to Sir Thomas Boyd, Earl of Arran. These are his lands in Carrick sometimes referred to as being in Dailly. He never took posession of them as King James had him killed but the lands passed to his third son Adam who began the keep in about 1490. The Muir family claimed these lands and many years later their would be a chancery court case in which the Boyds won. (More info in the book) Adam had two sons: Robert Boyd who extended the castle and lands, James who built Trochrig House. The third Lord Penkill was also Adam, son of Robert, who married a Kennedy woman and they were in the castle as residence by 1530 and the castle was strong enough to resist a siege by her father by 1553. This is the Sir Adam that was among the Boyd knights that formed a circle about Queen Mary at Langside in 1568 as were his two sons: Adam who succeeded his father in 1583, and Sir Alexander Boyd of Penkill, Knight of the Thistle in Scotland, and Knight of the Lily in France, better known by his pen name "Mark Alexander" Boyd who traveled extensively all over Europe as a tournament knight, scholar, poet, and warrior. and returned home when Robert died to tutor his nephew Thomas in the military Arts. Thomas fifth Lord Penkill, confirmed in 1601, took possession of lands granted him in Carrick in 1616 which became part of the Dailly estate (upon this parcel of land just south east of Girvan is where our subject Spencer Boyd of Virginia would later build a small but beautiful manor house that still stands called "Piedmont Cottage". He married Marion Muir whose father left them enough money to greatly expand the castle to near what we see today. They had two sons -Thomas, and Alexander* who married Helen Cathcart. Thomas sixth Lord Penkill married Anne Melville sister of the Earl of Melville. They had one son. Thomas Seventh Lord Penkill who married Isabell Lindsey daughter of Lord Balcarras. Alexander, their son became the seventh Lord Penkill before 1711 and he had one daughter who died before he did. So the estate devolved to his second cousin Alexander, eighth Lord Penkill great grandson of Alexander* second son of Thomas, above. When Alexander eight Lord Penkill died unmarried in 1750 the castle passed to John Boyd of Trochrig who then styled himself "of Trochrig and Penkill" but he died without sons. His daughter, Anne, married a fellow named William Robertson who afterwards styled himself William Boyd-Robertson "of Trochrig and Penkill". It was their only daughter who was the last Boyd owner of Trochrig House the castle by this time laying in ruins. So, the castle of Penkill and the Barony that went with it passed to the closest living male which was John Boyd, a physician in Virginia, by right of his descent from James Boyd second son of John Boyd of Trochrig. Dr. John Boyd was never styled "Lord Penkill" because he had no interest in the Scottish estates of his distant relatives and was doing quite well in Virginia. His son Spencer also had no desire to move away from Virginia but did acquire the title and arms from Lord Lyon and was the 10th Lord Penkill. His son James was served as heir in 1782 and is numbered as 11th Lord Penkill but being a confirmed American who lived in the comfort and freedom of his newly born country he also had no desire for a drafty old Scottish castle laying in ruins and remained in Virginia and died without issue. He was a loyal Whig Royalist whose collection of papers is in the possession of Princeton University and should be studied by one of us at some point for more about this family and their dealings in Virginia. His brother Spencer, was confirmed as the 12th "Laird of" Penkill in 1792 and returned to the the ancient Scottish homeland. As the castle was in ruins he took up residence in Girvan and built a lovely little cottage called "Piedmont Cottage" on ancient Boyd lands that were part of this ancient estate. He died in 1807. In 1820 his son Spencer 13th Laird who was just a minor when his father died was confirmed in all his fathers estates. He married Margaret daughter of William Losh of Newcastle and they had two children- Alice and Spencer. He died in 1827. In 1844 his son Spencer attained his majority and became the 14th Laird of Penkill. Spencer was a gentleman planter and brought modern farming into the estate. He sold off many of the surperfluous smaller properties that were part of the estate. He received a large settlement from his father in laws will and set about a complete restoration of the castle. Upon his death the castle passed to his sister Alice the 15th and last Laird of Penkill. And that is where the really interesting part of the story begins.................... Barry in Dallas On 5/16/2016 5:59 PM, Mike Boyd via wrote: > I have just been sent a message which told me that in 1753, Robert Boyd of Virginia – whom after the male line of the Boyds of Penkill had died out and as he was the next male in the Trochrig Cadet Branch – inherited both Penkill and Trochrig Lairdships. > > He is described as being the son of James Boyd, physician near Westpoint upon York River, in Virginia. In 1999 I was told that this James lived in of King and Queen Co. VA. So I am not sure if “Westpoint upon York River” is or was in King and Queen Co., VA in 1753. > > Do any members of this list come form these areas of Virginia? Or has any member done any research for any Boyds in this area of Virginia? > > I only know about 10 people who are connected to the central Stem of the Head of the Clan and about half of these belong to the Boyds of Penkill and Trochrig. > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > > > > > > > > > ==================== > *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** > > > Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. > > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > ====================================== > > > > {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml }}}}}}}} > > > > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games & Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015 Please plan on attending! > > Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > > ______________________________________ > > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! > http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml > > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. 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Mike, Westpoint is still in King and Queen County, VA. Of course, they now call it King William County, but it's the same. This region is also known as Port Richmond, VA. Westpoint is the actual harbor at the end of York River. -- Colin Brooks The 1718 Project CB1718project@gmail.com

I have just been sent a message which told me that in 1753, Robert Boyd of Virginia – whom after the male line of the Boyds of Penkill had died out and as he was the next male in the Trochrig Cadet Branch – inherited both Penkill and Trochrig Lairdships. He is described as being the son of James Boyd, physician near Westpoint upon York River, in Virginia. In 1999 I was told that this James lived in of King and Queen Co. VA. So I am not sure if “Westpoint upon York River” is or was in King and Queen Co., VA in 1753. Do any members of this list come form these areas of Virginia? Or has any member done any research for any Boyds in this area of Virginia? I only know about 10 people who are connected to the central Stem of the Head of the Clan and about half of these belong to the Boyds of Penkill and Trochrig. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS

I forgot to ask if anyone knows if any of these Lairds left a Will that might list some of their children or grandchildre? Thank you Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd via Sent: Monday, May 16, 2016 9:30 AM To: boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] The early Boyd Lairds of Trochirg, Carrick, Ayrshire The early Boyd Lairds of Trochirg, Carrick, Ayrshire These are the current known early Boyd Lairds of Trochrig according to The Boyds of Penkill and Trochrig Their Ancestors and Descendants by Seymour Clarke, 1909, and Annals of the House and family of Boyd, Earls of Kilmarnock and lairds of Penkill Castle and Tochrogue, A.D. 1153 - A.D.1963. By Florence Cameron, Edinburgh, 1963 K3 Adam Boyd, first Laird of Penkill, b 15xx, d after 21 November 1577, m before December 1531, Helen Kennedy, widow (with issue) of Robert Graham, of Knockdolien, youngest dau of John Kennedy, 2nd Lord Kennedy, b 15xx, d 15xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] L2 James Boyd, first Laird of Trochrig, bc 1534 (Scot.), d 21/6/1581 (Scot.), bu Cathedral of Glasgow, m 15xx, Margaret Chalmers, dau of James and Annabella (nee Cunningham) Chalmers, of Gadgirth, b 15xx (Gadgirth, Scot.), d 15xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Episcoopal Archbishop of Glasgow. "His son Robert, second of Trochrig, the celebrated divine, was great-great-grandfather of Robert (not John) Boyd of Trochrig, who on the extinction of the Penkill line in 1750, succeeded to that estate, being served heir-male to his remote cousin Thomas Boyd of Penkill 28 February 1752 (Retours). He died s.p.m., November 1761, (Ibid) when Trochrig devolved on his daughters Ann and Grace, the former of whom married William Boyd Robertson, and had an only child, a daughter, who sold Trochrig, and Penkill passed to his nephew and heir-male Spencer Boyd, and his descendants were owners in 1847. (Paterson's History of Ayr, i. p 394)." The Scots Peerage, vol v, p 152. From A Genealogical Account of the Principal Families in Ayrshire, more particularly in Kyle and Cunninghame, By George Robertson, Vol 111., 1825, p 268, it gives Margaret Chalmer's mother as Annabella, daughter of John Cunningham of Caprington. While her elder sister - Annabella - married James Crawfurd of Auchnames and her younger sister - Marian - married Thomas Kennedy of Ardmillan. M1 Robert Boyd,[1] second Laird of Trochrig, b 1578 (Glasgow, Scot.), d 5/1/1627 (Edinburgh, Scot.), m /5/1611 (Saumur, France), Ann Malvera, dau of Malvera, b 15xx, d 16xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - The Thurburns, Contains also the Anderson, Stevenson, Boyd, and Cumming families. By Lieut. Col. F. A. V. Thurburn... London, Printed by R. K. Burt, 1864. p32, said that he married "Anna de Malviverne, daughter of Peter de Malviverne, of Vinola." [Which Country - France or Spain?] N2 John Boyd, third Laird of Trochrig, bc / /1618 ( , Glasgow?, Scotland), d / 16xx ( town, etc), bu , mc / /1632 (church, town, etc), wife unknown, dau of and (nee ) ???????, b / /161x (town, etc), d / /16xx ( town, etc), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Clarke does not say when he succeeded his father. From Thurburn's book he would have succeeded in 1627, or after, when M1 died. O1 Robert Boyd, fourth Laird of Trochrig, bc 1633, d 16xx, m late 16xx, Miss Crawford, dau of William Crawford, of Auchinames, b 16xx, d 16xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Clarke does not say when he succeeded his father. (This Miss Craufurd is the sister of Archibald Craufurd [P3] in chapter 8/425, whom go back to the Porterfields in chapter 8/423 and to the Sixth Lord Boyd. Robert’s date of birth would have to be questioned, as he was born only 15 years after his father’s birth. P1 John Boyd, fifth Laird of Trochrig, bc 1680 (Scot.), d 17xx, mc 1700, wife unknown, b 16xx, d 17xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Clarke does not say when he succeeded his father. Q1 Robert Boyd, sixth Laird Trochrig and ninth Laird of Penkill, bc 1701 (Scot.), d Nov. 1761 (Scot.), m 17xx, wife unknown, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - "He was on the 28 February 1752 served heir male to Alexander Boyd of Penkill who died in 1750. His regular descent from Adam Boyd, the first of Penkill, was at the time proved. He thus became ninth laird of Penkill." Clarke, p 21. His eldest daughter, Ann succeeded him in the Trochrig estate, while his nephew, Spencer Boyd, (Q2/R1), succeeded him in Penkill. Q2 James Boyd, bc 1702 (Scot.), d 17xx[2] (Virginia, USA), m 172x (Virginia, USA), Mary Thatch, dau of Spencer Thatch, b 17xx, d 17xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - James was a physician in Virginia, USA. Need to find when he went to USA. In 1999 I was told that this James lived in of King and Queen Co. VA. In these six generations only the succeeding son has been named by both Clark and Cameron and no other sons and daughters given! In this period, it was quite “common” for a family of 10, or more, children to be born to a family, so has anyone found any websites or other sources that might tell us “what children” were born to these Lairds of Trochrig? It would appear from 1691 Heath Tax list for Ayrshire, that none of the children held farms within this Estate and have most likely moved to other parts of Scotland – such as Ayr (town), Irvine, Kilmarnock, Glasgow or Edinburgh. Thank you Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee, HBS

The early Boyd Lairds of Trochirg, Carrick, Ayrshire These are the current known early Boyd Lairds of Trochrig according to The Boyds of Penkill and Trochrig Their Ancestors and Descendants by Seymour Clarke, 1909, and Annals of the House and family of Boyd, Earls of Kilmarnock and lairds of Penkill Castle and Tochrogue, A.D. 1153 - A.D.1963. By Florence Cameron, Edinburgh, 1963 K3 Adam Boyd, first Laird of Penkill, b 15xx, d after 21 November 1577, m before December 1531, Helen Kennedy, widow (with issue) of Robert Graham, of Knockdolien, youngest dau of John Kennedy, 2nd Lord Kennedy, b 15xx, d 15xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] L2 James Boyd, first Laird of Trochrig, bc 1534 (Scot.), d 21/6/1581 (Scot.), bu Cathedral of Glasgow, m 15xx, Margaret Chalmers, dau of James and Annabella (nee Cunningham) Chalmers, of Gadgirth, b 15xx (Gadgirth, Scot.), d 15xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Episcoopal Archbishop of Glasgow. "His son Robert, second of Trochrig, the celebrated divine, was great-great-grandfather of Robert (not John) Boyd of Trochrig, who on the extinction of the Penkill line in 1750, succeeded to that estate, being served heir-male to his remote cousin Thomas Boyd of Penkill 28 February 1752 (Retours). He died s.p.m., November 1761, (Ibid) when Trochrig devolved on his daughters Ann and Grace, the former of whom married William Boyd Robertson, and had an only child, a daughter, who sold Trochrig, and Penkill passed to his nephew and heir-male Spencer Boyd, and his descendants were owners in 1847. (Paterson's History of Ayr, i. p 394)." The Scots Peerage, vol v, p 152. From A Genealogical Account of the Principal Families in Ayrshire, more particularly in Kyle and Cunninghame, By George Robertson, Vol 111., 1825, p 268, it gives Margaret Chalmer's mother as Annabella, daughter of John Cunningham of Caprington. While her elder sister - Annabella - married James Crawfurd of Auchnames and her younger sister - Marian - married Thomas Kennedy of Ardmillan. M1 Robert Boyd,[1] second Laird of Trochrig, b 1578 (Glasgow, Scot.), d 5/1/1627 (Edinburgh, Scot.), m /5/1611 (Saumur, France), Ann Malvera, dau of Malvera, b 15xx, d 16xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - The Thurburns, Contains also the Anderson, Stevenson, Boyd, and Cumming families. By Lieut. Col. F. A. V. Thurburn... London, Printed by R. K. Burt, 1864. p32, said that he married "Anna de Malviverne, daughter of Peter de Malviverne, of Vinola." [Which Country - France or Spain?] N2 John Boyd, third Laird of Trochrig, bc / /1618 ( , Glasgow?, Scotland), d / 16xx ( town, etc), bu , mc / /1632 (church, town, etc), wife unknown, dau of and (nee ) ???????, b / /161x (town, etc), d / /16xx ( town, etc), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Clarke does not say when he succeeded his father. From Thurburn's book he would have succeeded in 1627, or after, when M1 died. O1 Robert Boyd, fourth Laird of Trochrig, bc 1633, d 16xx, m late 16xx, Miss Crawford, dau of William Crawford, of Auchinames, b 16xx, d 16xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Clarke does not say when he succeeded his father. (This Miss Craufurd is the sister of Archibald Craufurd [P3] in chapter 8/425, whom go back to the Porterfields in chapter 8/423 and to the Sixth Lord Boyd. Robert’s date of birth would have to be questioned, as he was born only 15 years after his father’s birth. P1 John Boyd, fifth Laird of Trochrig, bc 1680 (Scot.), d 17xx, mc 1700, wife unknown, b 16xx, d 17xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - Clarke does not say when he succeeded his father. Q1 Robert Boyd, sixth Laird Trochrig and ninth Laird of Penkill, bc 1701 (Scot.), d Nov. 1761 (Scot.), m 17xx, wife unknown, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - "He was on the 28 February 1752 served heir male to Alexander Boyd of Penkill who died in 1750. His regular descent from Adam Boyd, the first of Penkill, was at the time proved. He thus became ninth laird of Penkill." Clarke, p 21. His eldest daughter, Ann succeeded him in the Trochrig estate, while his nephew, Spencer Boyd, (Q2/R1), succeeded him in Penkill. Q2 James Boyd, bc 1702 (Scot.), d 17xx[2] (Virginia, USA), m 172x (Virginia, USA), Mary Thatch, dau of Spencer Thatch, b 17xx, d 17xx, and had issue:- [Lived: ] - James was a physician in Virginia, USA. Need to find when he went to USA. In 1999 I was told that this James lived in of King and Queen Co. VA. In these six generations only the succeeding son has been named by both Clark and Cameron and no other sons and daughters given! In this period, it was quite “common” for a family of 10, or more, children to be born to a family, so has anyone found any websites or other sources that might tell us “what children” were born to these Lairds of Trochrig? It would appear from 1691 Heath Tax list for Ayrshire, that none of the children held farms within this Estate and have most likely moved to other parts of Scotland – such as Ayr (town), Irvine, Kilmarnock, Glasgow or Edinburgh. Thank you Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee, HBS [#50] -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1]When Robert was studying in France he received a letter from his "kinsman David Boyd from Kilmarnock" Clarke, p 19. Unfortunately it does not say which branch this David came from. [2]Does this mean that James died before Robert (Q1) in 1761?

Last week I found a 2014 website by a Peter A Kincaid of Fredericton NB which gave his Email address, but when I wrote to him about a Boyd and Kincaid family it bounded. So is there someone in that area who could volunteer to contact him please to get his new Email address? Thank you Mike Boyd .

List members. The above question has puzzled me as when a Willis found in this period and perhaps also the 1800’s, does the listing of the children in the will indicate their order of birth? I have seen some where the boys are listed then the girls. So do people have any experience with this aspect of researching your Boyd family? Thank you Mike Boyd

Has anyone been able to confirm the connection between the Boyds of Madison County, AR and Warren County, TN? I'm working with a DNA match who is descended from the Boyds of Madison County. We've identified David Boyd (1824-1863) as the son of Robert T Boyd, Sr (1795-1875) in Madison Co., AR, but we have not been able to confirm that this is the same as the Robert Boyd, Sr on the 1830 and 1840 censuses in Warren County, TN. Also, does anyone know if Robert Boyd, Sr in Warren Co., TN had a son James born between 1813 and 1817? This reply is directed at a thread from Jan 2011... From: "Mike Boyd" [1]<mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [BOYD] Milton Harvey Boyd born 1897 - of Madison Co,Arkansas and Warren Co., TN Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:26:20 +1000 References: [2]<259924.60486.qm@web83405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com><21DA8F542C1A43DBB20 FFE11812BA697@DD4KCF1S>[3]<318868.33012.qm@web120103.mail.ne1.yahoo. com> Aldine and Brenda If this family form Madison Co., Arkansas goes back to Warren Co., TN, IT MAY LINK TO THIS FAMILY of William Boyd from Ornage Co, NC:- ? U1? William Boyd, b 15/3/1761 ( , Orange Co., NC), d 14/2/1847 ( , Roane Co., TN), bu Smalley Cemetery, Roane Co., TN , mc / /1776 (church, town, county, state), wife unknown, dau of and (nee ) ????, b / /176x ( ), d / /177x ( ), bu , Orange Co., NC?, and had isuse:- m 2ndly / /1779 (church, town, county, state), Mary Wasson, dau of and (nee ) Wasson, b / /18xx ( ), d / /1785 ( ), bu , and had issue:- m 3rdly / /178x (church, etc) thought to be Mrs Lane, dau of and (nee ) ????, b / /17xx ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? m 4thly 7/2/1833 (church, town, Roane Co, TN), Nancy Smalley, dau of and (nee ) Smalley, b / /18xx ( ), d / /18xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- ? ... Thank you, Bruce Boyd St. Louis, MO References 1. mailto:mikejboyd@bigpond.com 2. mailto:259924.60486.qm@web83405.mail.sp1.yahoo.com 3. mailto:318868.33012.qm@web120103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com

Mike, I am pretty sure that there was no Chester or Newberry counties in 1772. South Carolina was still "Districts" then. So we are looking at "the 96th district" in 1772. The courthouse was at Oxford then the Old 96th courthouse which has actually moved since then. Both counties were formed in 1785. Three different courthouses with three different sources and people tend to have just gone to the closest one despite where they actually lived. The two counties Chester and Newberry while both being included in the 96th District are distinct and separate with no overlapping areas. So, after 1785 to be in Chester is to Not be in Newberry. Barry On 5/6/2016 5:49 PM, Mike Boyd via wrote: > Do any list members have Robert's book - "My Family The Boyds" compiled by > Robert T. Boyd, Jr., > > This book should start with the brothers Robert Boyd, who married Mary > Peoples and William Boyd who married Mary Dorman and came from County > Antrim. One of the thinks I would like to find out is where in County > Antrim these two brothers lived in Antrim. When I first was given these > families, I was told they lived in Newberry County, but over the last few > days when I have been adding some data to this family, they seemed to be > centred around Hopewell ARP Cemetery, Blackstock, Chester, SC. (So I am > not sure if when they arrived in 1772 it was Newberry County and then turned > into Chester county or the family first settled in Newberrry County and then > moves to Chester County. > > This this seems to be another Boyd family living in Chester County South > Carolina - just to confuse those researching Boyd families in this County. > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Boyd via > Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 3:21 PM > To: boyd@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BOYD] Robert B. Boyd, of Athens, TN 37303, 1997 > > Is the above Robert Boyd on this list? I would like to take to you about > your book > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > ==================== > > ==================== > *** Remember to trim your message before hitting send or your message may be held on the server for being too large due to excessive quoting. *** > > > Deleting quotations of earlier messages will help keep within the limits when replying. > > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > ====================================== > > > > {{{{{{{{{ Want to HOST a BOYD Tent at events near you? You must be a Member of House of Boyd and have official standing as a Convenor. Contact the President or a Member of the Board to express your interest and get the ball rolling. http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml }}}}}}}} > > > > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2015 will be held in conjunction with the San Francisco Caledonian Club's 150th Highland Games & Gathering, Labor Day Weekend -- September 5th & 6th, 2015 Please plan on attending! > > Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > > ______________________________________ > > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! > http://www.clanboyd.org/joinus.shtml > > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > > This list is set for replies to go to the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com not just the author of the post. > ==================== > > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact the Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Do any list members have Robert's book - "My Family The Boyds" compiled by Robert T. Boyd, Jr., This book should start with the brothers Robert Boyd, who married Mary Peoples and William Boyd who married Mary Dorman and came from County Antrim. One of the thinks I would like to find out is where in County Antrim these two brothers lived in Antrim. When I first was given these families, I was told they lived in Newberry County, but over the last few days when I have been adding some data to this family, they seemed to be centred around Hopewell ARP Cemetery, Blackstock, Chester, SC. (So I am not sure if when they arrived in 1772 it was Newberry County and then turned into Chester county or the family first settled in Newberrry County and then moves to Chester County. This this seems to be another Boyd family living in Chester County South Carolina - just to confuse those researching Boyd families in this County. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS -----Original Message----- From: Mike Boyd via Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 3:21 PM To: boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] Robert B. Boyd, of Athens, TN 37303, 1997 Is the above Robert Boyd on this list? I would like to take to you about your book Thank you Mike Boyd ====================

Is there anyone researching this Marston, Missouri family? Thank you Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Maurice Kessler via Sent: Saturday, May 7, 2016 1:47 AM To: boyd@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] Obit - From the Indianapolis Star Obituary Eugene Boyd, 85, of Indianapolis, died at 6:30 a.m. Wednesday, May 4, 2016 at Indiana University West Hospital in Avon. Born Wednesday, February 4, 1931 in Marston, Mo., he was the son of Frank Sr. and Eddis (Masters) Boyd. In 1947, their family moved to Indianapolis, where Mr. Boyd attended George Washington High School. He served in the United States Army from 1951 to 1953 and was stationed in Germany during part of his military tenure. On December 18, 1955, he married Glennis Lackey, who survives. Mr. Boyd worked as a pipefitter and maintenance technician at National Starch and Chemical Corporation for 42 years and 9 months, retiring in 1999. He was a member of the Oil, Chemical and Atomic Workers Union Local 7-706. A devout Christian, he had been a church trustee. His mechanical aptitude and carpentry skills were indispensable to the churches he attended. Mr. Boyd was an avid fisherman and was a longtime member of the Capitol City Conservation Club. He enjoyed watching Westerns, military films and action movies, and spending time with his family and his companion dog, Gunny. Also surviving are two sons, Kenny (and wife Gracie) Boyd of Greenwood, and Roger (and wife Deanna) Boyd of Lawrenceville, Ill.; two daughters, Carol (and husband Doug) Beck of Reelsville, and Anna (and David) Stephens of Greenwood; a sister, Jeanette Blythe of Indianapolis; eight grandchildren and three great-grandchildren. A fourth great-grandchild is due in October. He was preceded in death by his parents and by his brother, Frank Boyd Jr. Services will be at 11 a.m. Sunday, May 8, 2016 at Flanner and Buchanan - Decatur Township with Pastor Roger Boyd officiating. Visitation will be from 2 to 6 p.m. Saturday, May 7, 2016. Entombment will be at Floral Park Cemetery. ====================