CB10190.doc 26 Blackhorse Drive Kuraby QLD 4112 Brisbane Australia 30 January 2011 Dear Jim It is always the case. You can't find something so ask the whole list. I have just finished my lunch and was picking up some papers to sort when I found the list of people who meet at Betsy Johnson's in Fort Worth. It was good to meet you in Fort Worth. If I do not write this reply down as a letter I will quickly forget what I have told you. One of my roles as Chairman of the Historical Committee of the House of Boyd Society is to try to find Boyd families where ever they are in the World and include them in Clan Boyd of Scotland. This is an effort to build a Clan Boyd Pyramid of its descendants from pre 1,200. It will also add to the over 630 Boyd families that I have collected so far and make it much easier to make connections. During my recent trip to Britain, I have found over five hundred of new Boyd families. (i) In the paper you gave me on Larry Boyd's family from John Thomas Boyd, page 1, it says:- "John Thomas [12] Boyd (Adam [11], Adam [10], Adam [9], Andrew [8], Thomas [7], Robert Somerville [6], Robert [5], Alexander [4], Robert [3]; Thomas [2], Thomas [1] ..." (ii) If I understand this linkage in point (i) it should be these Boyd form the central stem of the family - in the reverse order:- G1 Sir Thomas Boyd, fourth Feudal Baron of Kilmarnock, b / /136x (Kilmarnock), d 7/7/1432 ( ), bu Kilmarnock, m / /141x (church, town, county, etc), Joanna Montgomery, said to be daughter of Sir John Montogomery of Ardrossan by his 2nd wife Margaret Maxwell who was dau of Robert Maxwell of Caerlaverock, b / /139x (Ardrossan), d / /14xx ( ), bu Kilmarnock, and had issue:- H1 Sir Thomas Boyd, fifth Feudal Baron of Kilmarnock, b / /140x ( ), k 9/7/1439 (Craignaught Hill, Renfrewshire), bu , m / /142x (church, town, county, etc), Lady Isobel ????, dau of and (nee ) ????, b / /141x ( ), d / /14xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- I1 Robert Boyd, first Lord Boyd, created before 18 July 1454, b / /143x ( ), d 148x (Alnwick, Northumberland), thought to have died in exile after Easter 1480-81 and before 14 October 1482, when the title and estates were restored to his grandson, bu , England?, m / /144x (church, town, county, etc), Mariota (or Janet), daughter of Sir John Maxwell of Calderwood, b / /143x ( ), d died after 25 June 1472, apparently early in 1473, ( ), bu and had issue:- J3 Alexander Boyd, b / /144x, d / /15xx ( ), died after 1508, the date of his death has not been ascertained, bu , mc / /1505, Janet Colville, sister of Sir William and daughter of Sir Robert Colville of Ochiltree, had a dispensation for the marriage already contracted between them and legitimising the children already born, 23 November 1505 (they were related within the third and third and fourth and fourth degrees of consanguinty) and had issue:- of whom presently K1 Robert Boyd, fourth Lord Boyd (title restored in 1536 by King James V), b before 1518, d between 29 July 1557 and 10 May 1558, m before 1518, Lady Helen Somerville, daughter of Sir John Somerville of Cambusnethan, m secondly before December 1542, Elizabeth Napier, widow of Humphrey Colquhoun of Luss and m thirdly before February 1548-49 Marion Colquhoun, daughter of Sir John Colquhoun of Luss, She survived him and was married, secondly to Captain Thomas Crawford of Jordanhill. L1 Robert Boyd, fifth Lord Boyd, bc 1517, d 3 January 1590,, bu in the Low Church of Kilmarnock, m 15xx, (contract dated 1535) his cousin-german, Lady Margaret Colquhoun, daughter and heiress of George Colquhoun, fourth of Glens, and Margaret Boyd, b 15xx, d August 1601, bu Metropolitan Church of Glasgow, and had issue:- M2 Thomas Boyd, sixth Lord Boyd, b 153x, before 1568, d June 1611 ( ), bu , m / /155x (church, town, county, etc), Lady Margaret Campbell, second daughter of Sir Matthew Campbell of Loudoun, b 15xx, d 15xx, living 1568 and had issue:- He would appear to have two other wives; m secondly 15xx, Jane Stockdale, youngest daughter of William Stockdale of Green Hamerton (living 1586) and m thirdly 15xx, Elizabeth Wallace who was living in 1622 N9 Andrew Boyd, natural son of sixth Lord Boyd, b 15xx, d 21 December 1636 aged 71 or 80, bu Dunoon, Argyllshire, m 15xx, Elizabeth Conyngham, daughter of Adam Conyngham b 15xx, d 16xx, living 1618 and had issue:- Then your first of the 3 Adam Boyd (iii) Other sources tell me that the first of these Adam Boyd's was a Captain in Munro Scottish Army of 1642 in Ireland. Last year I did find an Lt Adam Boyd in this army, but it is in one of the 32 folders that I have yet to Index, I can't say which Regiment he was with. (iv) On that first page, I am having some difficulty in following the footnotes. In the text for John Thomas Boyd, I can only see "1"'s after Scotland, PA, and Ireland but no "2" or "3". So who do I need to talk to help be understand where these footnotes "fit"? (v) I have what I currently know on Bishop Andrew Boyd's family set out in Chapter 8/411 in FILE W86588KB.doc which starts on my page 19 (A4 page size). I have their son Adam as the 6th child as O6, on page 29, but I do not have any children listed for him. (vi) You will also notice at the beginning of this family chapter I have 7 sources that provide information on this family. Under item B from History of the County of Ayr: with a Genealogical Account of the Families of Ayrshire, James Paterson, 1847, p 421, it says:- "2. Mr Adam Boyd. In 1619, he married Bessie Boyd, dau of Boyd of Portencross, and relict of Patrick Maxwell (son of John Maxwell of Auldhouse), merchant tailor, who died in 1623. He died in May 1649. No issue appeared (Wishaw, pp 119, 115)" You will not that it said that he had no issue. It also refers to him as "Mr" which I would ASSUME means that he was a Minister of religion like his elder brother Thomas. (vii) In my trip to Scotland in 2008, at the Mitchell Library in Glasgow I made some notes from a paper/booklet that was written by Alistair R. Hill, 1989, Address Law Moor, Bonnyton Moor Road, Eaglesham, Glasgow GT76 0PY "Boyd, Andrew c1566-1636, AGN 2157 (but did not write the Title of the Document). From 2008, Collections on the Life of Mr Andrew Boyd, Minister of Eaglesham and Bishop of Argyle, by Mr Robert Wodow?, Minister at Eastwood, Extended by Alister R Hill 1989." These notes I have included hear under source E, on page 21 - at the bottom - which goes onto say that Adam Boyd died in Glasgow in May 1649. [I would assume that his wife Bessie Boyd died in 1623, when he was about 24 years old. So why did he not remarry?] Other sources say that Captain Adam Boyd died in Ireland. I would assume in the fighting. viii) So this "evidence" would have me question if Bishop Andrew Boyd, as outlined in chapter 8/411, son Adam is the same person as Captain Adam Boyd who is said to be the Great Grandfather of John Thomas Boyd and Rev Adam Boyd. ix) I would certainly like to see the data that has been collected by Larry Boyd on John Thomas Boyd's ancestors. x) It seems quite unusual that John has two Christian names, when even the Head of the Clan only had the one name. xi) There are some other question about John Thomas Boyd descendants that I will have to ask at a later stage, when I compare it with the family I have outline for him in Chapter 4/208. But I notice that his son Thomas being born in County Armagh, Ireland. But you have his parents being married in 1715 at Philadelphia, PA. So is there (or was) a Armagh township in PA that these researches may have got confused with? (xii) Besides Bishop Andrew Boyd family chapter, 8/411, I also have two others that relate to Captain Adam Boyd's family. The first is on Chapter 4/208 - based on material that James T Curran sent to me about 1995 on this John Boyd and Rev Adam Boyd and the second is chapter 6/302 based on a tree structure - but with out much detail - on a second son of Capt Adam Boyd who seem to have finished up in York County, PA. I can send both of these to Larry and you if you would like them. Have you sent me your own Boyd family? I would like to make separate family Chapter for your Boyd family so it can be put this into a volume of Clan Boyd of Scotland. With you as the source of these details (or other family members). It will allow me to build onto it in the future. I would contribute that information to them, so any future researchers can contact them about it. It would help me to link future families into theirs. Clan Boyd of Scotland is a collection of Boyd families in a effort to build a pyramid of the Clan. The bases of these family chapters is to show a families origins; include the known details; sources of the information; any books/publications on the family and list known researchers or possible researchers (type of family Research Group). The third Edition of Clan Boyd of Scotland will be in linking those families that have finally made the connection to the Kilmarnock family. I think at present I only have 2 or 3 such families, so I might leave that task to someone else and just collect Boyd families. The information I would ideally like to be able to include are full names (including common name); date and place of birth, death and marriage (incl. church); place of burial; to whom married; spouses parents, children; and where they lived. This format also allows for a small history to be included on each individual. The initial draft need not have all this information and it is more important to list children and other descendants etc. The best way is to send it to me electronically as I am not the world's fastest typist. When you send that, I could then type it up and send it back to you to ensure that I have it correctly layout It is on Word processing in Word for Windows 2 so allows you to add what you like. Depending on your objective, it can be used as a research tool to record what you have done to find information about an individual; as an appendix to a family history or as I am doing just a straight genealogy and recording who were members of the Clan. My aim as said above is to build a pyramid of the Clan which will make it much easier for people to fit their family into the Clan. I think the above details for each Boyd descendant will help build the Clan Pyramid. I am currently working on Volumes 7 for County Antrim Boyd families; Volume 11 for County Down families; Volume 14 for rest of the World; Volume 15 for Scotland outside of Ayrshire Volume 16 for Ayrshire families I have filled up Volumes 1-6, 8-9 and 10 with Boyd families. Last year, I will create another 11 new Volumes for US east Coast States, so I can start to collect Boyd families from these States. I would like to get your full postal address please, so I can pass on your name to others when I think I might get an match. Are you aware of any other Boyd researchers who I might be able to include on my researcher's list as well please. The details I would like to include here are :- NAME OF RESEARCHER; ADDRESS; EARLIEST KNOWN DATE; EARLIEST KNOWN LOCATION; AND EARLIEST KNOWN NAME; The House of Boyd Society has been going since 1988. The House of Boyd society have our own:- - surname Net Group at BOYD@rootsweb.com - quarterly Newsletter called Dean Road (contact Kevin McLachlan - editor@clanboyd.org) - He is always searching for material - queries, photos or short articles - to go in future issues) - DNA Project and discussion group boyd-dna@rootsweb.com - the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org - Historical Committee - family database - www.facebook.com group - for members only If you would like more details on these I can pass them along to you. You need to use the BOYD@rootsweb.com Net list to help you to find additional sources of information for your Boyd family. Both missing sections and earlier origins, etc. Posting what you know about this family and their children. Giving names, dates, locations and the spouses of the children, so that you can make links with other researchers. Hopefully these new researchers can give you additional information. It pays to advertise what you are looking for. Last year I went to the Stone Mountain Games in Atlanta, GA and was surprised to meet quite a few people from the SE of America. I understand that our Vice President, David Boyd, will be hosting the tent this year in October. I will be going to Las Vegas on 15 & 16 April 2011 for the Highland Games there and then plan to do a few weeks tour of the upper eastern mid west States like IN, OH, WVA, KY and TN. I may even have time to spend a day in lower Ontario. I have just posted to the Boyd list a very rough Tour plan to see if people can organise meeting for me in these States. On my return from the USA, I will be getting into Auckland on Thursday 12 May at 5.30 am. I plan to spend a day in Auckland so I can talk to Boyd families on Thursday night before going down to Christchurch on the Friday and home to Brisbane the following Monday. I look forward to hearing from you in the future concerning your Boyd family so it can be added to the Clan Boyd Pyramid. Kind regards ? Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee, HBS ? Jim Boyd 5017 Birchwood Dr. McKinney TX 75071 USA jboyd014@tx.nn.com ? Incl: W86588KB.doc ?I will copy the letter as an attachment so you both can read the footnotes for the Head of the Clan's tree [folder 10AF #6B]
Dear Mike, Yes, I'm happy to explain what I think you are asking about haplogroups. I hope that I am correct in thinking that you are asking when in the past there was a common ancestor to which all the Boyds can link? If this is NOT what you want, please re-phrase the question and ask again. Using the link below my signature, you will arrive at the public Y-results chart for the Boyd DNA Project. You will notice that the list is organised into several different groups. These are the haplogroups. The Boyds have, so far, members in haplogroups A, E, I, J and R, haplogroup A being the oldest haplogroup and haplogroup R being the most recent to develop. Within those groups are finer distinctions, for example, there is R1a and R1b. Within THOSE groups are even further distinctions. These distinctive groups are called "sub-clades." Using the tree as metaphor, think of the trunk as haplogroup A. Then think of the other haplogroups as branches from that trunk. To give you some sense of time over which these various groups developed, it is believed that the R branch of the haplogroup tree appeared about 27,000 years ago. The two big branches of R to have been identified are R1 and R2. All of the haplogroup R Boyds can be found on the R1 branch, which is itself estimated to have arisen about 18,500 years ago. Every time a further refinement of any haplogroup is identified, a new letter or number is added to its description. This can be cumberson, so a sort of shorthand has developed. Here is an example. R1b1b2, a further branching of the R1 branch, is estimated to have arisen approximately 4,000 to 8,000 years ago in southwest Asia, spreading into Europe from there. Most European R1b1b2 belong to haplogroups R1b1b2a1a1 or R1b1b2a1a2. You can see how cumbersome this nomenclature is becoming. So R1b1b2a1a1 is called U106 (the U signifies the lab where it was identified). The most recent refinement of U106 is U198. So now we are no longer imagining branches of the tree so much as we are imagining twigs. I'm not meaning to confuse you and, if I am, I apologize. But it is important that you get the sense of the passage of time that separates one haplogroup from another and what that means to genealogy research. Haplogroup A existed about 60,000 years ago and haplogroup R developed about 27,000 years ago. So you can see that, for the purpose of genealogy research, there is never going to be a common ancestor for haplogroup A Boyds and haplogroup R Boyds. They simply are NOT related. The same can be said about all the haplogroups. They are NOT related within any meaningful time. Now we can talk about who CAN be said to be related and I'll use U198 as an example. The U198 group is a relatively rare sub-clade of R, yet it is quite numerous in the Boyd DNA Project. These Boyds are definitely related. The question is, how closely are they related? I am a member of this group so I'll use myself as an example. FTDNA calculates the chances of relatedness for every "match." Their calculations for the chances of my being related to my closest match are: Generations Percentage 2 16.55% 4 46.30% 8 85.51% 10 93.33% Generations Percentage 2 16.55% 4 46.30% 6 70.63% 8 85.51% 10 93.33% 12 97.08% 14 98.77% 16 99.50% 18 99.80% 20 99.92% 22 99.97% 24 99.99% 26 100.00% Generations Percentage 2 16.55% 4 46.30% 6 70.63% 8 85.51% 10 93.33% 12 97.08% 14 98.77% 16 99.50% 18 99.80% 20 99.92% 22 99.97% 24 99.99% 26 100.00% So each member of the project can tell approximately how many generations they need to go back in their genealogical research to discover their MRCA (most recent common ancestor) with any of their matches. I am grateful for the opportunity your question provided to explain this once again. I know it's a difficult subject and hope I've explained it clearly. Kind regards, Jeri Ann Boyd Administrator Boyd DNA Project Generations Percentage 2 16.55% 4 46.30% 6 70.63% 8 85.51% 10 93.33% 12 97.08% 14 98.77% 16 99.50% 18 99.80% 20 99.92% 22 99.97% 24 99.99% 26 100.00% http://www.familytreedna.com/public/boyddnanet/default.aspx?section=yresults --- On Sat, 1/29/11, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Subject: Boyd DNA - R-U198 Haploid group To: BOYD-L@rootsweb.com, "Jeri Ann Boyd" <boyddna@sbcglobal.net> Date: Saturday, January 29, 2011, 9:05 AM David Boyd of Maryland wrote to me a few days ago and advised that that his DNA test had come back as R-U198 Haploid group. While Lauren and I did discuss a wide range of topics, I do not think that we touched on the Boyd DNA "groups" and how they may be linked to the "paper" Boyd family trees. So Jeri Ann (or others) tell us what are the Boyd DNA groups and how many generations these go back to make a common link? Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS
I think that most Clan members know that the 4th Earl of Kilmarnock, William Boyd, finally sided with Bonnie Price Charles and went with him to Derby England and then all the way back to Scotland and finally to Culloden where he was captured in 1746. On the retreat north the Princes forces meet King George II force at Falkirk - only a few miles from Callender House, which was the home of the Earl and Countess. On the morning of this Battle of Falkirk, the Countess entertained General Hawley, the English General in charge of the Kings forces, and he was distracted from his military duties to such an extent that an aid had to tell him the Battle had begone. Unfortunately the staff at Callender House do not know any more details on this or where in the house the Countess entertained General Hawley. I have always thought it would make a very good movie. The Earl was brought to London and in August 1746 was tried and convicted of treason. And to be executed at Tower Hill by beheading. Under such circumstances, it appears to have been the custom to do the family tree of the people being executed for in the publication Memoirs of the Lives and Families of the Lords Kilmarnock, Cromertie and Balmerino, Together with A Faithful Nattative of the Procesings againft them: and the Genuine Speekes of the Lords Kilmarnock and Cromertie, 1746, both Lord Kilmarnock and Balmerino's family trees are outlined. "The Life and Family of William Boyde, Earl of Kilmanrock and Lord Boyde. The Earl of Kilmarnock takes his Title of Earl of from a Royal Borough of that name, in the Shire of Cunningham: The firft [first] remarkable Man of his Family, and the firft [first] who affumed [assumed] the Sirname of Boyde, is faid [said] by Scotch Genealogifts [Genealogists], to be Robert, Son of Simon, third Son of Allan, Lord High Chancellor of Scotland, in the Year 1111; fo [so] in Right of this Robert, from whom the Earl of Kilmarnock is lineally defcended [descended], this Branch of the Name of Boyde claims to be Chief, and acted in that Capacity, when Chieftainfhip [Chieftainship] was in Repute in that Part of the Country; but for more than a Century and a half, Chiefs in that part of Scotland, neither have nor claim any other Advantage, but that of Precedency." There were no footnotes to indicate who were the sources of this information and whom might have been "the Scotch Genealogists. So it has been a little hard to try and trace these sources to confirm this date of 1111 for the start of Clan Boyd. Last year when I was in Scotland, I did try to search for Stewart Genealogy to see if the date 1111 refers to the birth of Simon or the birth of his son Robert. But I have not been successful to date on that point. While Dr J H Round in 1902 said in a article on the origins of the Stewarts that Simon was not the son of Allan but his wife's second husband. (I will have to find that paper so I can write up another article as I finish sorting my papers from last years trip.) So this article Claims the Boyds started 900 years ago. So when we go to the Games at Las Vegas on 16-17 April could we start the process of developing a third Boyd tartan to add to the ancient and modern tartans the Clan currently has. Perhaps calling it the "Boyd Dress Tartan". This could be one of a number ways that we could celebrate being 900 years old. So ladies (and perhaps a gentleman or two) may wish to get out their sowing boxes or get their children working with the colour printer to begin developing an suitable design that people calling at the Boyd Tent may wish to make suggestions or comments. Lauren, is there a website or some other source that people can view to see what is required to make a new Tartan? Hopefully, by the 2012 AGM, we can make a discussion (what ever that process may be). For your discussion. Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee House of Boyd Society
Darlene I only have 6 days between the Greenboro Games in NC and gettting to Roseville, CA. I assume that on Saturday night 30 April, I can get an lift to Boonesville, NC with Michelle Legon. And then go onto Knoxville TN on the Sunday (1 May), but that looks like a 3 to 4 hour drive by bus or car. >From the map, it looks like that Chattahooga and Nashville and perhaps Memphis may be other suitable place (or towns near by) but that will depend on where people wish to hold/organise a meeting place for me during this period. Hopefully, I can do do a circle and get to at least one talk a day before moving on to the next place. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darlene Amark, Owner - FairWinds Travel" <fairwinds@earthlink.net> To: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] Mike Boyd's talking Tour of upper Mid West in April - St Louis, MO > Mike, > > If you plan to get as far south as Tennessee, I would suggest you also > consider Alabama. My Boyds came from there and there are a LOT of them > around. If you think that might work out I will make some contacts and > see if there's interest from some of the locals there to meet up with you. > > Darlene Amark > HBS #1239 > fairwinds@earthlink.net > > Mike Boyd wrote: > >>I know from working on the net for about 15 years that a lot of Boyds went >>to Missouri over time. However, I do not know if members of these >>families >>are still there or not. >> >>So on Monday 18 April my travel agent hear in Brisbane said that I can get >>an 7 am flight to Denver and catch another flight to St Louis and be at >>Lambert Airport by 1346 pm >> >>So is there a person (or a group of people) in the Eastern MO or SW ILL. >>area who would like to help to organise a meeting and venue (although that >>could be at the Hotel that I am staying at. >> >>At this stage I only have one person from Grand Rapids, MI who has >>contacted >>me about organising for me to talk to Boyd member in their area. >> >>The talks - from the Tour in October down the east Coast are most likely >>to >>last about 3 hours - to give you a guide. >> >>I am certainly quite happy to talk to people about our Boyd history and to >>pass on what I have collected over the last 30 years and about 7 Trips to >>Scotland and Ireland. And yes in October, while I was not able to operate >>my laptop, I was able to tell a number of the people that I spoke to what >>Branches they were connected to and where there families came from in >>Ireland. >> >>If I can't get an volunteer, I will look at flying directly to Chicago and >>getting a train up to Grand Rapids MI. >> >>The other States I would like to visit to pass on my knowledge about Boyd >>history (and collect known Boyd family trees) are:- >> >>(i) Indiana; >>(ii) Ohio; >>(iii) western PA; >>(iv) West Virginia >>(v) Kentucky; >>(vi) Tennessee. >> >>I have promised Joyce Arcus that I will go to the Greensboro Games on >>Saturday 30 April. So I expect that I will also do a history talk in >>Greensboro on the Friday night (29 April) >> >>While I have said to President Lauren that I will go to the Woodland Games >>in CA on 7 and 8 May. >> >>So I am currently thinking that after Greensboro on 30 April, that I could >>go to several cities/towns in Tennessee and get to some where that I could >>fly to Dallas or some other hub that will get me to Sacramento by Friday 6 >>May. >> >>I am quite happy to go into Canada, into lower Ontario Province to some >>town >>north of Lake Erie or to Hamilton and perhaps Buffalo, NY before I swing >>south. (along as you promise no snow) >> >>This will be the first and, I expect the last time, that that I will be >>able >>to visit this area to pass on my knowledge about Boyd Clan history. >> >>Thank you for volunteering. (These people will need help from others to >>contact both Boyd and Boyd researchers through a range of methods.) >> >>I am quite happy to go by train, bus or if it is possible by car if people >>have the time. >> >>Mike Boyd >>Chairman >>Historical Committee HBS >> >> >> >>_______________________________________ >>House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of >>the Clan 2011 will be held in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction with >>The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. Mike will be >>returning to America to join us! Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be >>interested in helping to plan it. >>_______________________________________ >>Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd >>Society! >> http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 >>______________________________________ >>House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The >>Society would not be what it is without you! >>______________________________________ >> >>Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin >>McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org >> >>==================== >>Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org >>==================== >>For Officers and other Contacts, see >>http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml >>==================== >>Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make >>sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com >>==================== >>Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com >>==================== >>Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe >>mid-discussion? Visit the archives: >>http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd >>==================== >>Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? 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Mike, The DR Boyd-James Thomas Boyds were in the Neosho-Diamond and Joplin MO are. I don't have any contacts there, but probably Christian Does. Bon Voyage, DRB -----Original Message----- From: boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christian D. Boyd Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 9:24 AM To: 'Mike Boyd'; BOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOYD] Mike Boyd's talking Tour of upper Mid West in April - StLouis, MO Mike and group, I am in the St Louis Metro area and willing to help. Christian D. Boyd O'Fallon, Illinois (near Scott Airforce Base) (H) 00.1.618.624.0332 (M) 00.1.618.292.8583 -----Original Message----- From: boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:23 PM To: BOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] Mike Boyd's talking Tour of upper Mid West in April - St Louis, MO I know from working on the net for about 15 years that a lot of Boyds went to Missouri over time. However, I do not know if members of these families are still there or not. So on Monday 18 April my travel agent hear in Brisbane said that I can get an 7 am flight to Denver and catch another flight to St Louis and be at Lambert Airport by 1346 pm So is there a person (or a group of people) in the Eastern MO or SW ILL. area who would like to help to organise a meeting and venue (although that could be at the Hotel that I am staying at. At this stage I only have one person from Grand Rapids, MI who has contacted me about organising for me to talk to Boyd member in their area. The talks - from the Tour in October down the east Coast are most likely to last about 3 hours - to give you a guide. I am certainly quite happy to talk to people about our Boyd history and to pass on what I have collected over the last 30 years and about 7 Trips to Scotland and Ireland. And yes in October, while I was not able to operate my laptop, I was able to tell a number of the people that I spoke to what Branches they were connected to and where there families came from in Ireland. If I can't get an volunteer, I will look at flying directly to Chicago and getting a train up to Grand Rapids MI. The other States I would like to visit to pass on my knowledge about Boyd history (and collect known Boyd family trees) are:- (i) Indiana; (ii) Ohio; (iii) western PA; (iv) West Virginia (v) Kentucky; (vi) Tennessee. I have promised Joyce Arcus that I will go to the Greensboro Games on Saturday 30 April. So I expect that I will also do a history talk in Greensboro on the Friday night (29 April) While I have said to President Lauren that I will go to the Woodland Games in CA on 7 and 8 May. So I am currently thinking that after Greensboro on 30 April, that I could go to several cities/towns in Tennessee and get to some where that I could fly to Dallas or some other hub that will get me to Sacramento by Friday 6 May. I am quite happy to go into Canada, into lower Ontario Province to some town north of Lake Erie or to Hamilton and perhaps Buffalo, NY before I swing south. (along as you promise no snow) This will be the first and, I expect the last time, that that I will be able to visit this area to pass on my knowledge about Boyd Clan history. Thank you for volunteering. (These people will need help from others to contact both Boyd and Boyd researchers through a range of methods.) I am quite happy to go by train, bus or if it is possible by car if people have the time. Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee HBS _______________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2011 will be held in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. Mike will be returning to America to join us! Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. _______________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org ==================== Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org ==================== For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml ==================== Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd ==================== Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? 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Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org ==================== Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org ==================== For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml ==================== Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? 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My father, Richard Boyd, is the president of the Boyd Family group in SW MO, and resides in Joplin. He also knows the Neosho archives pretty well. We also have the bi-annual family reunion coming up this summer. He has been talking about exploring ways to open the even up to more of the family throughout MO and the area. If you all would like contact info to talk more with him, I will send it forth. Christian -----Original Message----- From: David Boyd [mailto:drbmd@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 3:02 PM To: 'Christian D. Boyd'; 'Mike Boyd'; BOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: RE: [BOYD] Mike Boyd's talking Tour of upper Mid West in April - StLouis, MO Mike, The DR Boyd-James Thomas Boyds were in the Neosho-Diamond and Joplin MO are. I don't have any contacts there, but probably Christian Does. Bon Voyage, DRB -----Original Message----- From: boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Christian D. Boyd Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 9:24 AM To: 'Mike Boyd'; BOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOYD] Mike Boyd's talking Tour of upper Mid West in April - StLouis, MO Mike and group, I am in the St Louis Metro area and willing to help. Christian D. Boyd O'Fallon, Illinois (near Scott Airforce Base) (H) 00.1.618.624.0332 (M) 00.1.618.292.8583 -----Original Message----- From: boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:23 PM To: BOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] Mike Boyd's talking Tour of upper Mid West in April - St Louis, MO I know from working on the net for about 15 years that a lot of Boyds went to Missouri over time. However, I do not know if members of these families are still there or not. So on Monday 18 April my travel agent hear in Brisbane said that I can get an 7 am flight to Denver and catch another flight to St Louis and be at Lambert Airport by 1346 pm So is there a person (or a group of people) in the Eastern MO or SW ILL. area who would like to help to organise a meeting and venue (although that could be at the Hotel that I am staying at. At this stage I only have one person from Grand Rapids, MI who has contacted me about organising for me to talk to Boyd member in their area. The talks - from the Tour in October down the east Coast are most likely to last about 3 hours - to give you a guide. I am certainly quite happy to talk to people about our Boyd history and to pass on what I have collected over the last 30 years and about 7 Trips to Scotland and Ireland. And yes in October, while I was not able to operate my laptop, I was able to tell a number of the people that I spoke to what Branches they were connected to and where there families came from in Ireland. If I can't get an volunteer, I will look at flying directly to Chicago and getting a train up to Grand Rapids MI. The other States I would like to visit to pass on my knowledge about Boyd history (and collect known Boyd family trees) are:- (i) Indiana; (ii) Ohio; (iii) western PA; (iv) West Virginia (v) Kentucky; (vi) Tennessee. I have promised Joyce Arcus that I will go to the Greensboro Games on Saturday 30 April. So I expect that I will also do a history talk in Greensboro on the Friday night (29 April) While I have said to President Lauren that I will go to the Woodland Games in CA on 7 and 8 May. So I am currently thinking that after Greensboro on 30 April, that I could go to several cities/towns in Tennessee and get to some where that I could fly to Dallas or some other hub that will get me to Sacramento by Friday 6 May. I am quite happy to go into Canada, into lower Ontario Province to some town north of Lake Erie or to Hamilton and perhaps Buffalo, NY before I swing south. (along as you promise no snow) This will be the first and, I expect the last time, that that I will be able to visit this area to pass on my knowledge about Boyd Clan history. Thank you for volunteering. (These people will need help from others to contact both Boyd and Boyd researchers through a range of methods.) I am quite happy to go by train, bus or if it is possible by car if people have the time. Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee HBS _______________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2011 will be held in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. Mike will be returning to America to join us! Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. _______________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org ==================== Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org ==================== For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml ==================== Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd ==================== Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! **************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _______________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2011 will be held in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. Mike will be returning to America to join us! Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. _______________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org ==================== Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org ==================== For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml ==================== Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? 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Betsy Johnston Do you have the email contact for Jim Boyd who drove me back to the Airport please. I am still sorting my papers from the trip (and I have got to folder 32 so far and I am sure that there is more that I have to find in various pills around the house). He gave me a family tree for John Boyd who is the brother of the Rev Adam Boyd of Chester Co., PA which seems to indicate that Captain Adam Boyd was the son of Bishop Andrew Boyd, the natural son of Thomas Boyd, the 6th Lord Boyd. So I would like to explore this possible linkage. Thank you Mike Boyd
John Do you know if there are any books, etc as not everyone wants to join Ancestory Mike Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Boyd" <johnhboyd@earthlink.net> To: "'Mike Boyd'" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> Sent: Sunday, January 30, 2011 11:38 AM Subject: RE: [BOYD] Shipping list for Boston, MA in 1860's and 1870's > Yes, there are passenger lists for Boston in that time frame. I found > mine > on Ancestor. Com. > > -----Original Message----- > From: boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf > Of Mike Boyd > Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 6:18 PM > To: BOYD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BOYD] Shipping list for Boston, MA in 1860's and 1870's > > Do any list membrs know if there are any records of what passengers landed > in Boston, MA in hte above period? > > If so could you please tell the list. > > Thank you. > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS >
I know from working on the net for about 15 years that a lot of Boyds went to Missouri over time. However, I do not know if members of these families are still there or not. So on Monday 18 April my travel agent hear in Brisbane said that I can get an 7 am flight to Denver and catch another flight to St Louis and be at Lambert Airport by 1346 pm So is there a person (or a group of people) in the Eastern MO or SW ILL. area who would like to help to organise a meeting and venue (although that could be at the Hotel that I am staying at. At this stage I only have one person from Grand Rapids, MI who has contacted me about organising for me to talk to Boyd member in their area. The talks - from the Tour in October down the east Coast are most likely to last about 3 hours - to give you a guide. I am certainly quite happy to talk to people about our Boyd history and to pass on what I have collected over the last 30 years and about 7 Trips to Scotland and Ireland. And yes in October, while I was not able to operate my laptop, I was able to tell a number of the people that I spoke to what Branches they were connected to and where there families came from in Ireland. If I can't get an volunteer, I will look at flying directly to Chicago and getting a train up to Grand Rapids MI. The other States I would like to visit to pass on my knowledge about Boyd history (and collect known Boyd family trees) are:- (i) Indiana; (ii) Ohio; (iii) western PA; (iv) West Virginia (v) Kentucky; (vi) Tennessee. I have promised Joyce Arcus that I will go to the Greensboro Games on Saturday 30 April. So I expect that I will also do a history talk in Greensboro on the Friday night (29 April) While I have said to President Lauren that I will go to the Woodland Games in CA on 7 and 8 May. So I am currently thinking that after Greensboro on 30 April, that I could go to several cities/towns in Tennessee and get to some where that I could fly to Dallas or some other hub that will get me to Sacramento by Friday 6 May. I am quite happy to go into Canada, into lower Ontario Province to some town north of Lake Erie or to Hamilton and perhaps Buffalo, NY before I swing south. (along as you promise no snow) This will be the first and, I expect the last time, that that I will be able to visit this area to pass on my knowledge about Boyd Clan history. Thank you for volunteering. (These people will need help from others to contact both Boyd and Boyd researchers through a range of methods.) I am quite happy to go by train, bus or if it is possible by car if people have the time. Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee HBS
I am just north of Dayton, OH, located approximately one to one and a half hours from Richmond, Indiana, Cincinnati and Columbus, OH. If you are coming our way, feel free to call. Though I am not 'officially' descended of a Boyd (the connection is through my McCurdy who was married to a Boyd and left him before starting the line I descend from), I would be happy to try to help you coordinate in the area. There is a Boyd cemetery within an hour of here, on the road to Fort Recovery, which is west of us (nearing the Indiana border). Marla Fair (H) 937-339-9869 -----Original Message----- From: boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:23 PM To: BOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] Mike Boyd's talking Tour of upper Mid West in April - St Louis, MO I know from working on the net for about 15 years that a lot of Boyds went to Missouri over time. However, I do not know if members of these families are still there or not. <snip> The other States I would like to visit to pass on my knowledge about Boyd history (and collect known Boyd family trees) are:- (i) Indiana; (ii) Ohio; (iii) western PA; (iv) West Virginia (v) Kentucky; (vi) Tennessee. <snip>
Mike, I noticed in your email ref talking tour of upper mid west you mentioned you would like to go to Kentucky. I personally would love tp have you in Kentucky. I have not seen anyone organizing anything for Kentucky, so if there is anything I can do, don't hesitate to let me know. I am available 24/7. I am fairly new to this, but I am a retired College business teacher, so I am learning fast. I am a Boyd thru my Mother and possibly William Boyd of Patrick County, VA. Charlene is helping me work on this. Judith Adkins-Spears, Pike/Floyd Counties, Kentucky, USA Home 606-437-0202 Cell 606-454-1111
Do any list membrs know if there are any records of what passengers landed in Boston, MA in hte above period? If so could you please tell the list. Thank you. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS
Mike and group, I am in the St Louis Metro area and willing to help. Christian D. Boyd O'Fallon, Illinois (near Scott Airforce Base) (H) 00.1.618.624.0332 (M) 00.1.618.292.8583 -----Original Message----- From: boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2011 8:23 PM To: BOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] Mike Boyd's talking Tour of upper Mid West in April - St Louis, MO I know from working on the net for about 15 years that a lot of Boyds went to Missouri over time. However, I do not know if members of these families are still there or not. So on Monday 18 April my travel agent hear in Brisbane said that I can get an 7 am flight to Denver and catch another flight to St Louis and be at Lambert Airport by 1346 pm So is there a person (or a group of people) in the Eastern MO or SW ILL. area who would like to help to organise a meeting and venue (although that could be at the Hotel that I am staying at. At this stage I only have one person from Grand Rapids, MI who has contacted me about organising for me to talk to Boyd member in their area. The talks - from the Tour in October down the east Coast are most likely to last about 3 hours - to give you a guide. I am certainly quite happy to talk to people about our Boyd history and to pass on what I have collected over the last 30 years and about 7 Trips to Scotland and Ireland. And yes in October, while I was not able to operate my laptop, I was able to tell a number of the people that I spoke to what Branches they were connected to and where there families came from in Ireland. If I can't get an volunteer, I will look at flying directly to Chicago and getting a train up to Grand Rapids MI. The other States I would like to visit to pass on my knowledge about Boyd history (and collect known Boyd family trees) are:- (i) Indiana; (ii) Ohio; (iii) western PA; (iv) West Virginia (v) Kentucky; (vi) Tennessee. I have promised Joyce Arcus that I will go to the Greensboro Games on Saturday 30 April. So I expect that I will also do a history talk in Greensboro on the Friday night (29 April) While I have said to President Lauren that I will go to the Woodland Games in CA on 7 and 8 May. So I am currently thinking that after Greensboro on 30 April, that I could go to several cities/towns in Tennessee and get to some where that I could fly to Dallas or some other hub that will get me to Sacramento by Friday 6 May. I am quite happy to go into Canada, into lower Ontario Province to some town north of Lake Erie or to Hamilton and perhaps Buffalo, NY before I swing south. (along as you promise no snow) This will be the first and, I expect the last time, that that I will be able to visit this area to pass on my knowledge about Boyd Clan history. Thank you for volunteering. (These people will need help from others to contact both Boyd and Boyd researchers through a range of methods.) I am quite happy to go by train, bus or if it is possible by car if people have the time. Mike Boyd Chairman Historical Committee HBS _______________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2011 will be held in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. Mike will be returning to America to join us! Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. _______________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org ==================== Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org ==================== For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml ==================== Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd ==================== Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! **************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
David Boyd of Maryland wrote to me a few days ago and advised that that his DNA test had come back as R-U198 Haploid group. While Lauren and I did discuss a wide range of topics, I do not think that we touched on the Boyd DNA "groups" and how they may be linked to the "paper" Boyd family trees. So Jeri Ann (or others) tell us what are the Boyd DNA groups and how many generations these go back to make a common link? Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS
For those people that have Emailed me about what Hotel we will be staying in at Las Vegas, Lauren is hopefully of making some arrangements at "Fitzgeralds" I think itis called in the next few days I will be arriving on the Thursday night, 14 April after leaving Brisbane and going via Auckland, New Zealand and Los Angles (So I think I will be going straihg tto bed on Thursday night) While I am hopefully on Friday morning to do a walk "along" the strip to see the sights. We have still to decide when to start me "history" talk and to answer your questions about Boyd families on the Friday evening - either 5 pm or 6 pm. The talks last year went for about 3 hours before people looked at their watches. So hopefully by next weekend Lauren is in a postion to tell the list at what hotel we can make a group booking and people can make their requirements known. While I have booked my flights to and from the USA, I have still to work out where I will be going to for my talking Tour of the upper Mid West after the AGM at Las Vegas. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS
Are there any members of this list that live in RI or MA that may like to volunteer to try to contact Mr Bernard Boyd, Jr.? Co Roscommon in Ireland is not a place that many Boyds came from. Mike Boyd Historical committee, HBS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Boyd" <KBoyd_TrustnHisWord@ez2.net> To: "Boyd List" <Boyd-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 11:18 AM Subject: [BOYD] Milton J. Boyd of Taunton, Mass. >I was going through some old papers and found a letter that my brother had >received from someone searching for Milton J. Boyd descendents, written in >1998. These are not our Boyd ancestors but I thought the letter might help >someone else so here it is................ > ( I have no idea if this man lives at this address now or not.) > Bernard J. Boyd, Jr. > 20 Grotto Avenue > Providence, RI 02906 > > May 22, 1998 > > Dear Mr. Boyd: > > For the past few years I have pursued the casual hobby of looking into the > history of the Boyd family of Taunton, Massachusetts and I am looking for > descendents of Milton J. Boyd to add to the family tree. >
Dear Phyllis, I received your notice regarding the Boyd clan last October, but at the time I was unfortunately too busy with two serious illnesses in the family, and the move of my 90 year old parents into an assisted living facility. I have wanted to contact you since, and apologize that it has taken this long. We do not have a lot of our own Boyd genealogy available, and are definitely interested in your work. Here are the only bits I have offhand - I'm sure my father and perhaps my sister (Sally Boyd, now Jegier, residing near Philadelphia) can offer more. My father - Roger White Boyd - was born in Wallingford CT on August 28, 1920. He just celebrated his 90th last year, and now resides at Evergreen Woods retirement facility in North Branford. His father was John Clinton Boyd, who died of tuberculosis when my father was quite young - I believe around 1934. My father had a brother and two sisters, now deceased. The brother - William - was with the military, they moved quite a bit, but have never resided in CT I have 3 male Boyd cousins from my father's brother, all on the west coast now I believe. One sister of my father died young, the other had no children .I was told the family roots were before CT in the Baltimore area, but that is about the extent of my limited knowledge! Please let me know what I can do to delve deeper into our own Boyd family roots, and if and how and I can assist you in putting together the larger picture. In the meantime, all the best! Bryant Boyd
Claire I have found a William Boyd on a jury in 1523 (I think in Dublin) and another group of Boyds [number not given] in "The Route" in County Antrim in 1560, who came from Carrick. The only Boyds in Carrick that I know of in this period was Adam Boyd of Penkill. We only know of two of his five sons - the first two - the eldest became the Laird of Penkill and the second the Laird of Trochrig. So I assume that these Boyds of "The Route" MIGHT BE ONE OR ALL THREE OF THE YOUNGER SONS of Penkill. Colonel David Boyd took up 1000 acres in the Parish of Grey Abbey in 1606 under Sir Hugh Montgomery (who was a 5th or 6th cousin) We are not sure if the Boyds of Letterkenny, County Donegal also came before the Plantation period of 1609. The later Earl of Antrim as Presbyterian to come to the Route - I think in 1605 - so I would suspect that there were some Boyds amongst that migration. It is known that Sir Thomas Boyd of Bedlay, was one of the undertakers in County Tyrone in 1609 and stayed with his family until 1613 when he sold to his brother-in-law the Earl of Abercorn, James Hamilton. Some sources say he brought Boyds with him, but I have never found any names listed for these Boyd. James Hamilton married Marion Boyd and both are buried in Paisley Abbey in Scotland. There are a number of Boyds in County Antrim in the early 1600's, but I have not found out when they came to Ireland. One is buried in Derrykeighan, about 12 kms east of Coleraine, in 1612. He was said to have come from Irvine, Ayrshire. I suspect that some of the younger sons of the various Cadet Branches in Ayrshire, also sent sons over in 1609, but I have no names for these or where they may have settled in Ireland. While the Branch of the Boyds from the Fort William area of Scotland, say that they went to Ireland with Edward Bruce in 1316 and after his defeat in Ireland they went with the Macleans to the Fort William Area. While I have not explored this THEORY but I would not be at all surprised that some of the Scottish Boyd may have gone to Ireland pre 1609 to fight with some of the Irish Earl's against other Irish Earl's. Certainly, there were a number of known Boyd in Ireland before the 1609 Plantation The main reason for this migration from Scotland to Ireland, would have been that Scotland could not support the population growth of 1600. While later periods like 1700, it may have been for religious reasons that Presbyterian did not want to be governed by Bishops as in the Church of England. While after the 1641 uprising and again in 1690 uprising, when great numbers were killed on both sides of Protestants and Catholics, people were encouraged to go to Ireland from Scotland - (I) to re-plant or balance the Protestant population and (II) to reduce the population pressures on Scotland. As you go over the hills west of Kilmarnock, you can look to see where the Blair's, Ker's Cunningham's, Montgomeries and Boyds had lands. These lands could not be expanded to take care of an growing family, so the settlement of Ireland by King James VI in 1609 must have been gleefully supported by these families and many others in Scotland. I hope that this quick summary provides you and others with an outline of what is currently known about the Boyd migration to Ireland. If people can add any thing to this "history", I and the list would like to hear form you Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fluharty, Claire" <cfluharty@mednet.ucla.edu> To: <Boyd@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2011 3:44 AM Subject: [BOYD] FW: Your message to the Boyd list > Mike, > > My husband & I were in Scotland this summer and obtained the same booklet > I think. > > But our question is why and when exactly did the Boyds go to Northern > Ireland? > I always thought it was a polical event, but have no information about it. > Our family didn't come to US until 1840's, and then only half the siblings > came. > > Claire Boyd Fluharty >
I was going through some old papers and found a letter that my brother had received from someone searching for Milton J. Boyd descendents, written in 1998. These are not our Boyd ancestors but I thought the letter might help someone else so here it is................ ( I have no idea if this man lives at this address now or not.) Bernard J. Boyd, Jr. 20 Grotto Avenue Providence, RI 02906 May 22, 1998 Dear Mr. Boyd: For the past few years I have pursued the casual hobby of looking into the history of the Boyd family of Taunton, Massachusetts and I am looking for descendents of Milton J. Boyd to add to the family tree. Milton Boyd was born in March, 1900 in Taunton, the only son of Peter F. Boyd and Kathleen Ursula O'Sullivan. He had one sister, Lillian, who never married. Milton was an accountant for a short time in Taunton and moved to Detroit in 1925. His father also moved to Detroit, apparently to work for the Ford Motor Company as an electrician, but returned to Taunton the following year. At the time of his fathers death in 1933, Milton had one child and at the time of his mothers death in 1947, he had seven children and was still a resident of Detroit. I recently found an obituary notice for Milton, listing his children as Milton Jr., Bruce, Richard, Vance, Gregory, Jane and Barbara. These names, by the way were a surprise; I usually find James, Michael, Peter and Letitia. Milton's father Peter (1874-1933) was born in this country, one of ten children of Peter and Bessie (Ford) Boyd. Milton's grandfather Peter (1841-1904) was born in the parish of Fuerty, County Roscommon, Ireland, and came to this country around 1867, following his brothers Michael (my great, great grandfather) and James. Their brother William and Fanny came to the United States around 1872, I believe with their father James and possible their mother, Letitia. The Boyd's were a very large extended family in the Taunton area for many years and I have found a fair amount of information about them. One thing I do not have are any photographs and I think some must exist from around 1870 to 1930 or so. If you are a descendent of Milton Boyd I would very much like to hear from you; please write and I will send you more information. Regards, Bernie Boyd, Jr.
During my Tour of eastern Coast States of the USA in 2010, I found that I was speaking to the various groups for about 3 hours (Although the ladies at Abington, Washington Co., VA had me talking for 6 hours.) In 2008 at Stirling Castle, I bought one of those little 4 by 6 inch booklets called "The Origins of the Clan Boyd and their Place in Scottish History". (After I read it, I could have powered the Scottish grid for a few days. So I decided I should write up our own history.) When I sat down and made a list of the Historical events this was the list that I came up with and what I basically used during my talks to people in the USA last year. HISTORY OF THE BOYD CONTENTS 1. First mention of the name Boyd - 1,111 2. 1205 Irvine - Scots Peerage, page 136. 3. Vassals of the de Moreville - Not on list - check 2008 docs list 4. Battle of Largs, 1263, - 20 men!! 5. 1290's - Wallace's Second in Command. - Why did he not lead after Wallace's death? 6. Pre 1306 with Robert the Bruce, including Rathlin Island & attach on Arran Island 7. 1306 One of 24 names at Bruce's coronation (folder 08x #??) 8. 1306 lands given by Bruce - Balliol Lands 9. 1309 At Bruce first Parliament. 10. 1314 Bannockburn - said to be one of 24 Clans? 11. 1423 Hostages for King James II - who were the others - what links after? Marriages, Bonds, etc 12 William Boyd, Abott of Kilwinning (144?-1482) - How did he get appointed? - Why not an Montgomery? 13 Co - founded Glasgow University in 1451? - who were the other Co-founders. ? 14. Created Lord in 1454? 15. One of six Regents for King James III, 1460? - who were they? 16. Sole Regent 1466 - Why 17 Tanist by James II. 18. Creating modern boundaries for Scotland 18A. Boyd links with the Kennedy's in 1460's 19. Fall in 1469 - Who became regents or members of the Privy Council? - who got the ear of King James III? 20. Thomas Boyd Earl of Arran 21. Killing of James Boyd, second Lord Boyd in 1484 - who were involved? 22. Feud between Boyd's and Montgomeries from 1484 to 1560. 23. Why no Boyd's at Flodden in 1513? 24. Why was not Lord Hamilton called Earl of Arran after he married Princess Mary Stewart? 25. Battle of Langside 1568 26. 5th Lord Boyd and Queen Mary of Scots (155x-1587?) 27. Other Topics Covenantors period Dean Castle not listed in the 1691 Hearth Tax list - Why not? Cromwell fining Lord Boyd - why wasn't money repaided after King restored? - start of financial decline leading to 1746. 1661 Stones at Badendeath Castle/Tower Dr J H Round's paper of 1902, saying Simon is from Alan Fits Flard's wife's second family (and so Stewart Males will not have the same DNA as Boyds) So if you have any other topics you think should be covered or you wish to know about with regard to the Boyd History, please let me know and I will do the best I can to research that aspect of our History. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS