Linda and I were cousins. Our nearest common ancestor was Levi Boyd. Did not know Belle was in the mix. A big hello to cousin Dave. I think Cal and I discussed this many years ago via email. Larry Horton ________________________________ ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2012 will be held in Woodland,CA, USA in conjunction with the Sacramento Caledonian Club's 136th annual Sacramento Valley Scottish Games & Festival in April 2012 (unofficial date April 28th and 29th -- to be confirmed by the venue). Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. ____________________________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2011 was a great success in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. _______________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org ==================== Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org ==================== For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml ==================== Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd ==================== Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! **************************** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On the afternoon of Friday 15 April 2011, just before I was due to give my talk on Boyd history at Las Vegas, I was talking to David Boyd of Maryland about his family when he said that his DNA was a "perfect match" with Cal Boyd - our former genealogist. [David is that the right quotation?] I am not sure if David could see the excitement on my face when he told me this information. If I remember correctly this David Boyd, is descendant of the late Linda Lawhon's family which starts with:- T1 Robert Boyd, bc 1728 ( , USA/Scot.?), dc 5/2 or 3/1806 ( , Iredell Co., NC), bu , Iredell Co., NC? , m / /1752 ( which Presbyterian church, , Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA), Eleanor McCullough, dau of and (nee ) McCullough, bc 1732 ( , Ireland?), dc 1818 ( , Iredell Co. NC), bu , Iredell Co., NC?, and had issue:- [Lived: , Iredell Co.?, North Carolina ] While I knew that Cal's family started with a William Boyd and had Belle Boyd, the southern spy as part of his William Boyd's branch. Part of this William family is outlined in the book The Boyd family including the allied families of Bell, Braken, Cullar, Cunningham, Finley, Gaut, Hoover, Hough, Markle, McGrew, Parrish, Perry, Pinkerton, Scholl, Speer, Warfel, Welday, Williams, with special reference to Mercelia Louise Boyd ... Genealogist Katherine Cox Gottschalk. Compiled and published by Scott Lee Boyd. Santa Barbara, Calif., 1935. 330 p. 36-6743 - which I know that several of you have a copy of. R? William Boyd, b / /1705? (town, county, Northern Ireland), d / /1767 ( ), bu , m / /172x (church, town, county, Ireland or USA?), Margaret McClain, dau of and (nee ) McClain, b / /17xx town, county, Northern Ireland), d / /17xx ( ), bu , and had issue:- [Lived: Marsh Creek, PA. USA ] I knew that Mindy Householder of Washington Co., PA had a copy of Scott Lee Boyd's book and that I would be seeing her in a weeks time and that I would be able to quickly "prove" that Linda's Robert Boyd was a son of William Boyd of Marsh Creek, PA. That is another story. However the following Monday (18 April 2011), when I was picked up at Grand Rapid, MI, rail station off the train from Chicago, by Yolanda Boyd's husband Clint, he also mentioned that he had "perfect" or "close" match with Cal Boyd and that this family had come from the Scottish Border region and prior to that, out of northern England. I have yet to get at which generation these three families link to a common ancestor in this U-198 DNA group. So my first point to Clint was that during my 2008 visit to Dean Castle, I was given an scroll that started with an Adam Boyd, born in 1460, and who was the son of Lord Robert Boyd. This scroll said that Adam was married twice and that he had moved to the Leeds area of England. It also gave 13 generations, with part of family talking the name of Boylston or Boydstun/Boydston in some areas of the USA. So my first response to Clint was that "his" family MIGHT BE part of this Adam Boyd family Branch. Then I realised that if he was connected to William Boyd of Marsh Creek, PA - who is said to have come from Northern Ireland - then this would mean that this William Boyd's ancestors might or could go back to the Scottish Borders or north England. Hopefully the DNA link will tell us how far this is in these three branches. So with William Boyd's family from Northern Ireland, there is a need to find out which County and town he came from in Ireland. The possible migrations of this William Boyd's ancestors could be:- (a) After the 1690 uprising with King James and the Battle of the Boyne; (b) After the 1641 Irish uprising; (c) might have been a part of Cromwell's Army that came to Ireland and got land as a result; (d) been part of the King James VI's plantation of 1609 where families from both the Scottish side of the Border and the English side were encouraged to migrate to Ireland, rather than raid across the Border. (e) or at some time between these periods. So it will be interesting to see where this research led to the origins of these three families. So if you have any links that may help to go further back on any of these families please tell the net list. Thank you ? Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society PS Jeri Ann Boyd - could you forward tis to the Boyd DNA list as well please. Mike

Does anyone have a PDF file or a GEDCOM that they would be willing to share on the following BOYD Family. I am related as follows: myself>Laddie BOYD LONGINO Philips>Vance Boyd LONGINO>Mary Frances "Molly" BOYD LONGINO>Fitzherbert "Herbert, Hubbard" BOYD> Henry BOYD>Richard Coleman BOYD>Patrick BOYD>George and Isabella BOYD. I have the following information on my grandmother Molly, her father Fitzherbert and grandfather Henry that is documented. Mary Frances "Molly" BOYD, b Nov 1855 Troup County, GA. d. Nov. 1876 in Meriwether County GA. Married John Robert LONGINO Dec 21, 1871 Meriwether County GA. Children: Lena LONGINO b. Oct 23,1872, d. Aug 29, 1899 Fayette County GA. Vance Boyd LONGINO b. Oct. 3, 1874 in Meriwether County, Luthersville, GA. d. Aug 20, 1937 in Fulton County, East Point, GA In 1860 Federal census she was living with Mother Susan and Father Hubbard BOYD and sisters Martha Susan, Kate, and Ida Mae in Macon County AL. A sister Anna Madora was born in 1862. In 1870 Molly and sisters, Martha Susan and Kate were living with grandmother Martha Price Allison in Meriwether County GA with no trace of Susan and Hubbard/Herbert or sisters Ida Mae and Kate. Kate listed in "Boyds of Boyds Tank" as being married to __ ADAMS Fitzherbert BOYD, b.08 Mar 1831 in either Troup or Jasper County, GA. d. between 1863-1869. Married Sophronia "Sarah" ALLISON 27 Jan in Butts County, GA. They had 5 children all female (listed above in Molly's info.) As best as I can tell he is the Herbert BOYD who enlisted in the 1st Alabama Infantry Reg't, Company H as a Private. He must have died during the war but I can not find a record to that effect. His wife Sarah is not listed anywhere after the 1860 Alabama Census. Henry BOYD, b 20 May 1797 inn Jasper County GA, d. 17 Apr 1848 in Troup, Long Cane, GA, Married Susan Heard 03 June 1818. They had 12 children: Joseph, William Wilson, Thornberry, Richard Columbus, Mary Kate, Thomas, Fitzherbert, Nancy C. Susan Fannie, John Lee, Henry "Frankin", and Medora Olive. Susan HEARD was a grand niece of Governor Steven Heard. Henry and Susan are buried in the BOYD Family Cemetery in Troup, Long Cane, GA. I am not positive of the next info but I think this is correct. Richard Coleman BOYD. b. 09 Sep 1753 Halifax, VA. d. 28 Sept 1823 Jasper, GA married Frances Walden 1782, Halifax, VA. Children: Samuel, Mary, Thomas, Francis, Frances Fanny, Sarah, Nancy, Richard, Henry, John Coleman, and Averilla. Patrick BOYD b.1711 in Antrim, Ulster, Ireland, d. 26 Jan 1762 Hailfax, VA. Married Ann Wells Douglas 1751, Hailfax, VA. Children: Richard Coleman and Henry. George Boyd, Sr. b.1691 Antrim Ulster, Ireland. d. 1731 Chester, PA. Married Elizabeth "Jennet" Johnston. Children: Patrick, John, George Jr., James and Robert. Thank you for any help. Gay Philips Dasher Albany, GA

Hi All, I'm 3rd cousin 3 times removed from Bell Boyd our Confederate Boyd Common ancestor William Boyd of Scott Lee's Book. MY 5th ggf Definitely Related to Dave Boyd and the late Linda Lawhon -- Awrabest, Cal

Thanks Rev. Boyd for your kind and informative reply. Some of my Boyd's were in Franklin Co. KY before going to Floyd Co. KY for a while and I believe my William "Billy" Boyd married to Nancy Read was a ruling elder from 1800-1830 in a Presbyterian church called Upper Benson Church. Elders and church members are even listed. More information about this and the Lower Benson Church can be found at this link.......... http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~kyfrankl/upbenson.htm. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christian D. Boyd" <selbertboyd@gmail.com> To: <boyd@rootsweb.com>; "'Boyd List'" <Boyd-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] John Boyd - Old Scotch Church - Freehold, NJ > The Old Scotch Church mentioned still exists as First Presbyterian Church > (USA) in Freehold, NJ (http://www.fpcfreehold.org/OurHistory.html) > > " About 1692, a crude log and timber buildings was erected on Free Hill, > three miles north of Freehold in the area known as Wickatunk. Fourteen > years > later this house of worship was the scene of the very beginnings of > organized Presbyterianism in the New World. In December of 1706 this > church > building known as "Old Scots-Freehold Church" was the scene of the first > recorded Presbyterian meeting. By the actions taken at that meeting "Old > Scots-Freehold Church" became the first Presbyterian Church in the > colonies > of East and West Jersey and at this same meeting John Boyd was examined, > ordained and installed as pastor of "Old Scots Church". This was the first > ordination of a Presbyterian Minister in America." > > See also: > http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F50810FE3B5911738DDDAC0894 > DE405B8585F0D3 > > John's Biographical data is on record at the Presbyterian Historical > Society > in Philadelphia (http://www.history.pcusa.org/collections/bvfi.cfm) > > He is buried in the cemetery of the Old Tennent Church in NJ > (http://www.oldtennentchurch.org/html/telling_old_tennent_s_story.html) > > John was also ordained by a commission of pastors, including Francis > Makemie: > > "In 1707 there came to the city of New York, Francis Makemie, known as the > apostle of American Presbyterianism. He was a native of the North of > Ireland, and had with great difficulty managed to get to Glasgow to attend > the University, because Presbyterians were not admitted to the irish > colleges. After his graduation he returned and was ordained by the > Presbytery of Laggan about 1681. Shortly thereafter he came to the New > World > and did pioneer work in Maryland and Virginia, and was one of the seven > ministers who formed "The Presbytery" in 1706, the first formal > organization > of the Presbyterian Church in America. > > Early in 1707 he was commissioned to proceed to Boston, and also to join > in > the ordination at Freehold, N.J. of John Boyd, the first Presbyterian > minister to be ordained in this country. On his way from there to Boston > he > and his associate John Hampton stopped in New York and were urged by the > little group of Presbyterians to preach to them and lead them in worship. > Lord Cornbury refused to allow Makemie to preach in the Dutch Church, > claiming that he was not properly licensed, and so a meeting for public > worship was held in the house of William Jackson, at the lower end of > Pearl > Street. This was a gathering of ten or fifteen people only. A sermon was > preached and a little child baptized. > > The following day he was arrested at the order of the Governor and thrown > into jail, where he languished for two months before being released on > bail. > He was charged not only with not having a license from the Governor, but > "with intent to spread pernicious doctrines and principles to the great > disturbance of the church by law established and of the government of the > province." The trial was long drawn out, Mackemie quoting the laws of > England, Lord Cornbury insisting on his supreme authority. When the jury > received the case he was acquitted, but made to pay all the costs, > including > the fee of the prosecutor, an equivalent of several hundred dollars. The > next legislature, however, made it impossible for any such thing to happen > again. > > It is interesting to read Lord Cornbury's description of Makemie in a > letter > to the Board of Trade in London, written just after this incident: "I > entreat your Lordship's protection against this malicious man who is well > known in Virginia and Maryland to be a disturber of the peace and quiet of > all places he comes into; he is a jack of all trades, he is a preacher, a > Doctor of Physick, a merchant, an attorney or counsellor at law, and what > is > worst of all, a disturber of governments." > > This whole matter served but to rally the group of Presbyterians and their > friends and informal meetings continued. Some "Dissenting Minister," whose > name is unknown to us was asked to be their leader in 1709, but no further > record of him appears. The hopes of this faithful group were realized in > 1716 when there was organized what became the First Presbyterian Church in > the City of New York, but commonly known for many years as the Church in > Wall Street. > > The story of this enterprise is written in the Minutes of the Church of > Scotland and the names of the prime movers are recorded." > (http://thehistorybox.com/ny_city/nycity_worship_presbytery_beginnings_artic > le00535.htm) > > For more records, check First Presbyterian and the Presbyterian Historical > Society... they will have the wealth of information. > > > The Rev. Christian D. Boyd, D.Min. > Presbytery of Giddings-Lovejoy, PC(U.S.A.) > New Church Development Pastor & > Leadership in Ministry Team Moderator > Mob: 618.292.8583 > Email: cdboyd@celtichound.org > Social Network: facebook.com/christian.d.boyd > www.linkedin.com/in/christiandominicboyd > > cor meum tibi offero domine prompte et sincere > > -----Original Message----- > From: boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On > Behalf > Of Kim Boyd > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:50 PM > To: Boyd List > Subject: [BOYD] John Boyd - Old Scotch Church - Freehold, NJ > > Does anyone know about this John Boyd in the paragraph below?...... > > "Walter Ker, along with John Craig, and John Henderson in 1692 along with > other Covenanters > built the The Old Scotch Church of Freehold, NJ. and worshipped according > to the tennents > > of Calvin without a minister until The ordination of John Boyd and > installation on the last > > Sunday of 1706. The history of the Presbyterian Church in the new world > begins at the Old > > Scotch Church of Freehold NJ and John Boyd. Made possible by the labors > of > a stubborn godly > > old covenanter named Walter Ker." > > Thanks, > > Kim Boyd > > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2012 will be held in Woodland,CA, USA in conjunction with the > Sacramento Caledonian Club's 136th annual Sacramento Valley Scottish Games > & > Festival in April 2012 (unofficial date April 28th and 29th -- to be > confirmed by the venue). Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested > in helping to plan it. > ____________________________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2011 was a great success in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction > with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. > _______________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd > Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The > Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin > McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see > http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > ==================== > Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make > sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe > mid-discussion? > Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk > for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in > the subject and the body of the message > > > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2012 will be held in Woodland,CA, USA in conjunction with the > Sacramento Caledonian Club's 136th annual Sacramento Valley Scottish Games > & Festival in April 2012 (unofficial date April 28th and 29th -- to be > confirmed by the venue). Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested > in helping to plan it. > ____________________________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2011 was a great success in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction > with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. > _______________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd > Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The > Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin > McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see > http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > ==================== > Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make > sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe > mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? 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Sorry!

Hi Mike and List May be worth chasing up some of these: You searched on the surname BOYD. The following persons' interests may be of interest: Click on the email address to send an email to the person whose interest matches yours. Interested Person Email Address Interest Location Period marilyn clark mrcclark@tiscali.co.uk Borders 1750 to 1840 Jean Buziak jeannieb2@shaw.ca Borders 1800 to 2000 Stuart McKay mckayss@aol.com Duns/gavinton/langton/ayton 1800 to 1880 Yolanda Boyd ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net Greenlaw Langton Duns Lauder 1800 to 1880 jacqueline trahan jacquitrahan@hotmail.com Kelso,scotland 1900 to 1950 Jim McGuire Jim1.McGuire@Googlemail.Com Scotland 1500 to 2000 Joe Boyd Williams joewilliams6788@gmail.com Smailholm, Kelso, Sprouston 1780 to 1860 Martin -----Original Message----- From: boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: 07 July 2011 09:44 To: BOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? For those of you how have been to one of my talks, I have said that Boyds seemed to have settled in about 8 other areas outside of Ayrshire in Scotland. One of these is in the Melrose - Kelso area of the border with England. The PROBLEM is that I do not know when Boyd families move to this area of Scotland. So do any members of this list know of any dates for their earliest "Boyd" families in this area. I do know that:- A) Robert the Bruce, in 1306, gave several estates in Galloway - Dumfriesshire to Wigtonshire - but we do not know what Boyd families lived on these estates. B) We know that first Lord Robert Boyd's brother was in possession of Drumcol, (now Duncow) Dumfriesshire which is about 7 kms north of Dumfries. This estate was forfeited in 1469 when Lord Boyd was overthrown and Sir Alexander was executed. C) According to Scots Peerage, Sir Alexander Boyd had a son Alexander who was "living 1500 but died before August 1502" and "had a lease by Royal Letters of 8 January 1490-91, with consent of John Kennedy of Blairquhan, of half of Egirness, Culdery, and Andecut." I am not sure where these three estates might have been in Scotland. At this time we do not know what happened to the son Alexander Boyd nor do we know his age in 1469 when his father was executed. D) So he may have gone to live with his mother's Kennedy family or he may have been taken in by his grandmother's family of Maxwell's of Calderwood. I am not sure if these came from the Glasgow area or from around Dumfries. While his Aunty was the Countess of Angus, the wife of Archibald Douglas, so he may have gone to live with or work for one of the Douglas Cadets in Southern Scotland. Or he may have some other link to some of the other families from the "Border" area of Scotland. While doing another project, I found these two IGI entries for Berwick-upon-Tweed in England but very close at the mouth of the Tweed River to this Scottish Border region. Anne BOIDE (F)............ C: 12 Oct 1620 B: 5 Feb 1963 LOGAN Ba: P000221 Father: Thomas BOIDE Berwick Upon Tweed, Northumberland, E: 13 Jun 1963 SLAKE So: 094987 England SP: 23 Mar 1970 SLAKE Pr: 0453486 Anna BOIDE (F)............ C: 12 Oct 1620 B: 6 Aug 1938 LOGAN F#: 177931 @ Father: Thomas BOIDE of Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland, E: Pre-1970 P#: 797 England SP: Pre-1970 O#: 30934 I could not find any other children born to this "Thomas Boide" but it does indicate that Boyds were in the "Borders" by 1620 if not earlier. I am not sure if looking at the IGI Batch numbers above will help to take this family back further and to where. The other question is there any link to the Boyd families at Greenlaw, Gordon, Ednam, Duns, Earlston and Smailholm where a number of Boyd families are listed to have come from. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2012 will be held in Woodland,CA, USA in conjunction with the Sacramento Caledonian Club's 136th annual Sacramento Valley Scottish Games & Festival in April 2012 (unofficial date April 28th and 29th -- to be confirmed by the venue). Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. ____________________________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2011 was a great success in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. _______________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org ==================== Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org ==================== For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml ==================== Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? 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Hi Mike and List Kelso Boyds are very early in the records No records extant before 1598 1. JHONE BOYD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 04 NOV 1604 Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland 2. JHONE BOYD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 26 APR 1603 Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland 3. WILLIAM BOYD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 26 APR 1603 Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland 4. BOYD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 10 AUG 1606 Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland 6. CHRISTIANE BOYD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Female Christening: 30 MAY 1602 Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland 2 and 3 are twins to Thomas Boyd and Christian Tait 1, 4 and 6 are to JHONE BOYD and MARION AULDCORN Melrose Boyds are later in records No records of baptisms before 1642. First Boyd is 1714 JAMES BOYD - International Genealogical Index Gender: Male Christening: 25 MAY 1714 Melrose, Roxburgh, Scotland Martin -----Original Message----- From: boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:boyd-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Boyd Sent: 07 July 2011 09:44 To: BOYD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? For those of you how have been to one of my talks, I have said that Boyds seemed to have settled in about 8 other areas outside of Ayrshire in Scotland. One of these is in the Melrose - Kelso area of the border with England. The PROBLEM is that I do not know when Boyd families move to this area of Scotland. So do any members of this list know of any dates for their earliest "Boyd" families in this area. I do know that:- A) Robert the Bruce, in 1306, gave several estates in Galloway - Dumfriesshire to Wigtonshire - but we do not know what Boyd families lived on these estates. B) We know that first Lord Robert Boyd's brother was in possession of Drumcol, (now Duncow) Dumfriesshire which is about 7 kms north of Dumfries. This estate was forfeited in 1469 when Lord Boyd was overthrown and Sir Alexander was executed. C) According to Scots Peerage, Sir Alexander Boyd had a son Alexander who was "living 1500 but died before August 1502" and "had a lease by Royal Letters of 8 January 1490-91, with consent of John Kennedy of Blairquhan, of half of Egirness, Culdery, and Andecut." I am not sure where these three estates might have been in Scotland. At this time we do not know what happened to the son Alexander Boyd nor do we know his age in 1469 when his father was executed. D) So he may have gone to live with his mother's Kennedy family or he may have been taken in by his grandmother's family of Maxwell's of Calderwood. I am not sure if these came from the Glasgow area or from around Dumfries. While his Aunty was the Countess of Angus, the wife of Archibald Douglas, so he may have gone to live with or work for one of the Douglas Cadets in Southern Scotland. Or he may have some other link to some of the other families from the "Border" area of Scotland. While doing another project, I found these two IGI entries for Berwick-upon-Tweed in England but very close at the mouth of the Tweed River to this Scottish Border region. Anne BOIDE (F)............ C: 12 Oct 1620 B: 5 Feb 1963 LOGAN Ba: P000221 Father: Thomas BOIDE Berwick Upon Tweed, Northumberland, E: 13 Jun 1963 SLAKE So: 094987 England SP: 23 Mar 1970 SLAKE Pr: 0453486 Anna BOIDE (F)............ C: 12 Oct 1620 B: 6 Aug 1938 LOGAN F#: 177931 @ Father: Thomas BOIDE of Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland, E: Pre-1970 P#: 797 England SP: Pre-1970 O#: 30934 I could not find any other children born to this "Thomas Boide" but it does indicate that Boyds were in the "Borders" by 1620 if not earlier. I am not sure if looking at the IGI Batch numbers above will help to take this family back further and to where. The other question is there any link to the Boyd families at Greenlaw, Gordon, Ednam, Duns, Earlston and Smailholm where a number of Boyd families are listed to have come from. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2012 will be held in Woodland,CA, USA in conjunction with the Sacramento Caledonian Club's 136th annual Sacramento Valley Scottish Games & Festival in April 2012 (unofficial date April 28th and 29th -- to be confirmed by the venue). Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. ____________________________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2011 was a great success in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. _______________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? 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Yolanda & others researching the Scottish Borders Migration of Boyd's FROM England to the Scottish Borders. Following Yolanda Boyd's reply to my query about when Boyd families migrated to England and to where, I had another look at this issue again. MY THEORY IS THAT THE BOYDS MIGRATED FROM ENGLAND TO THE SCOTTISH BORDERS! It is known that Lord Robert Boyd, when overthrown in Scotland in 1469, fled to Alnwick, Northumberland England. From an unknown American researcher, it would appear that Lord Boyd had a 6th son Adam Boyd born in 1460 who went with him to Alnwick, whoever, we - at this time - do not know if any other Boyds went with him as family or "servants". While it is "said" this Adam Boyd after his second marriage went to the Leeds area and the chart lists a further 11 generations. It is known that:- O2 James Boyd, ninth Lord Boyd, bc 1600, d 16xx, appears to have died in March 1654, m before 1640, Catherine Crayke (or Craik), second daughter and co heir of John Crayk of the City of York, b 16xx, baptised 3 January 1618-19 (Bridlington), d 16xx, and had issue:- and T2 James Boyd, styled Lord Boyd, but for the attainder of 1746, fifth of Earl of Kilmarnock, and fifteenth Earl of Erroll, b 20/4/1726 (Falkirk), d 3/7/1778 (Callendar House), m 15/9/1749 Rebecca Lockhart, daughter of Alexander Lockhart of Cogington (Craighouse) (Lord Covington ? or Lord Woodhall ?), b 17xx, d 2/5/1761 (Bristol) and had issue:-, m secondly 10/8/1762 (Ford Church), Isabella Carr, daughter of Sir William Carr, Bt, of Etal, Northumberland, b 31/3/1742, d 3/11/1808 (Queen St Edinburgh), bu Abbey of Holyroadhouse, and had issue:- Both the 9th Lord Boyd [O2] marriage and the second marriage of James Boyd [T2], son of the 4th Earl of Kilmarnock have puzzled me for over 20 years, as to why these two Heads of the Clan married English brides. However, after talking to Clint and Yolanda in Grand Rapids MI and looking at this family of Adam Boyd again, it MIGHT HAVE BEEN that the Head of the Clan had come to England to visit their distant cousins in Northern England which led to them meeting their future brides. The Carrs of Etal, Northumberland, England is only 9 kms east of Coldstream on the Tweed River in Scotland and only about 4 or 5 kms NE of Flodden Battle field. In this Chart in the 5th to the 7th generation - from the late 1500's to early to mid 1600's there is three generations of Raffe or Ralph Boyd's given. This is still a large gap to Yolanda and Clint Ralph Boyd born in about 1733-38. The towns of Doddington, Chatton and Wooler are about 12-18 kms SE of Floddon Fields and about 21-29 kms NW of Alnwick. So could or might these English Boyd families have moved back across the Scottish Border after the Union between England and Scotland in 1707. It will be interesting to see if any of our researchers can find Boyds on the Scottish side of the border before 1707. It will also be interesting to see what other DNA result might show form Boyd families from the north of England and the Scottish Border region. And it would be interesting to see if any of these English Boyd families MIGHT HAVE Arms that tell us they are for a 6th son of a Lord. For your consideration Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yolanda Boyd" <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net> To: <boyd@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? Hi Mike, My husband, Clint's, Boyd line was concentrated in the Borders of England/Scotland until they moved to South Africa in the 1890's. In our research, we have not been able to connect to all the other families in the borders, but can't say that they aren't related in the 1700's or earlier. His oldest known Boyd is Ralph Boyd (Boid), b. abt 1733/38 and lived in the Doddington/Chatton/Wooler area of Northumberland, England. He married Ann Brown in Chatton in 1758 and moved the family to Norham, Northumberland, along the border of Scotland where they were tenant farmers. They baptized their children at Spittal United Presbyterian in Berwick-Upon-Tweed, England. Their son, Aaron Boyd, b. 1769, married Margaret Steele and baptized their first child at Haggerston Roman Catholic before they moved to Westruther, Berwick, Scotland where they were tenant farmers at Whitburn Farm. They moved there along with Aaron's sister, Margaret, who married Alexander Bird, tenant farmer at Thornidyke, Westruther. The siblings lived within 1 mile of each other. There was another Boyd family who were tenant farmers of the same landlord who lived 1 mile away from them, John Boyd of Broomybank (and Elizabeth Tait) who would have been about the same age as Aaron Boyd. We don't know if this is just a coincidence or if they were cousins. Aaron Boyd's son, Thomas Boyd b. 1799, married Barbara Turnbull and lived in Greenlaw, Berwick, Scotland. He was a coachdriver and died of smallpox in 1837. His son Robert Boyd, b. 1836 in Greenlaw, married Christina Hood and lived in a variety of areas of Berwickshire, including Duns, Lauder, Eccles and Langton. This family moved to Liverpool, England between the 1880 and 1890 census. My husbands gggrandfather, Thomas Boyd, b. 1960 did not follow his parents to Liverpool. He was in the Argyllshire Highlanders and moved with his wife, Annie Ross to South Africa where the family remained for generations. Yolanda Boyd

Yolanda & Clint How many genrations back before you make a link to other "DNA testers" ? Mike Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yolanda Boyd" <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net> To: <boyd@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? Hi Mike, My husband, Clint's, Boyd line was concentrated in the Borders of England/Scotland until they moved to South Africa in the 1890's. Clint is part of the U-198 DNA group and I would be interested to see if anyone else who is researching this area has had a DNA test and can help us determine if the families in this area are indeed related at some point. Yolanda Boyd

Kim & others Your question raises a few issues. 1) Did other Covenanters from Scotland come to America prior to 1700. And if so, to which Colonies. 2) From SCots in hte Mid-altantic Colonies, 1633-1783, David Dobson, 2002, page 9, it give 2 John Boyd's A) John Boyd indentured servant to East NJ 1685 (this is the 5th State where Boyds came prior to 1700) [NJSA.EJD A225] (I did not copy what this source meant.) B) John Boyd, son of George Boyd of Borland, educated Glasgow University around 1701, a minister, to America before 1706, settled in Tennant, NJ, died there on 30 Aug. 1708, cnf Edinburgh 10 April 1710 [NAS.CC8.8.84] There is an Borland on the northern part of Kilmarnock & just off the west side of the M77 Road. But I can't confirm that this is the same "Borland" mentioned above. >From the 1994, IGI for the UK it has these 4 entreis that MIGHT BE THIS JOHN BOYD'S BIRTH:- (i) John BOYD (M)......................... C: 9 Apr 1677 B: 26 Feb 1972 LANGE Ba: 7113220 20 Father: George BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 13 Jun 1972 LANGE So: 1235265 Mother: Janet BOYD SP: 1 Feb 1973 LANGE (ii) John BOYD (M)......................... C: May 1677 B: 31 Oct 1970 ARIZO Ba: 7003003 6 Father: George BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 27 Apr 1971 ARIZO So: 538193 Mother: Janet BOYD SP: 2 Mar 1972 ARIZO (iii) John BOYD (M)......................... C: 30 May 1678 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: C115972 Father: Georg BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 6 Nov 1946 ALBER So: 1041386,1041385 Mother: Elizabeth LOWDONE SP: 17 Nov 1947 LOGAN Pr: 6900234 (iv) John BOYD (M)......................... B: 25 May 1679 B: 1 Oct 1946 Ba: 7626714 22 Father: George BOYD Kilmarnock, Ayr, Scotland E: 6 Nov 1946 ALBER So: 1058692 Mother: Elizabeth LOUDEN SP: 17 Nov 1947 LOGAN I have allocated this family in a chapter in Volume 31 for Boyd families from New Jersey in "Clan Boyd of Scotland". I think during last years visit I did collect other data on this Rev John Boyd as well. Hope that this will give you some extra data on him. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, hBS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim Boyd" <KBoyd_TrustnHisWord@ez2.net> To: "Boyd List" <Boyd-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:50 AM Subject: [BOYD] John Boyd - Old Scotch Church - Freehold, NJ > Does anyone know about this John Boyd in the paragraph below?...... > > "Walter Ker, along with John Craig, and John Henderson in 1692 along with > other Covenanters > built the The Old Scotch Church of Freehold, NJ. and worshipped according > to the tennents > > of Calvin without a minister until The ordination of John Boyd and > installation on the last > > Sunday of 1706. The history of the Presbyterian Church in the new world > begins at the Old > > Scotch Church of Freehold NJ and John Boyd. Made possible by the labors > of a stubborn godly > > old covenanter named Walter Ker." > > Thanks, > > Kim Boyd >

Dear Cousins: I am glad to see you interacting and not only gateway posts coming to the list. However, I note that in our enthusiasm to communicate we are quoting the entire message we received... and that is leading to more quoting as responses are sent. Please take a look and snip off the previous message(s). Those of us with gmail need to be especially mindful of cutting off the quoted bits as we don't readily see them! Yours Aye, Lauren Boyd List Admin

Yolanda: Try posting a lookup request to the MI board for England: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.cemetery.uk.england/mb.ashx http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.cemetery.uk.england.tombstone/mb.ashx Message Boards > Topics > Cemeteries & Tombstones > United Kingdom > England > Tombstone Inscriptions Ann the admin for this board has written (see board information link) ________________________________________________________ Welcome to the England Tombstone Inscriptions Message Board This is a Board for sharing the Inscriptions you already have, or for seeking specific wording of the inscriptions you would like. Please help others to help you by giving as much detail as you can about the date and place of burial, if known. There is a separate Message Board for sharing or seeking information about England's Cemeteries, or locating specific burials in English cemeteries: http://boards.rootsweb.com/topics.cemetery.uk.england.england/mb.ashx Postings which are not on topic for this Board will be moved to a more appropriate Board, or deleted. _________________________________________________________________________________ Yours Aye, Lauren

Hi Mike,   I would love to see the descendent chart of Adam Boyd that you have with the Ralph/Raffe Boyds on it.  It may help us piece this together a bit.  Obviously, we are not descended from Lord James Boyd (Hay) and Isabella Carr as they would have been contemporaries with our Ralph Boyd b. 1733-38, but I wonder if we aren't too many generations off.  On Ralph Boyd's marriage record in 1758, it says he is from Doddington, which is about 3 miles from Ford.  We have suspected that Ralph Boyd's father is a William Boyd based on his naming his first son William in 1759.  This family always followed the traditional naming convention of naming the first son after the father of the father.  We have suspected that Ralph could be the son of William Boyd and Eleanor Carr who married in Ford, Northumberland in 1717, but are still looking for proof of this (beyond the near proximity, correct name and reasonable date range).  Perhaps this Eleanor Carr was related to Isabella Carr who married Lord James Boyd (Hay) in 1762?  There was a family of Boyd's living in Ford around 1700 as there are several Boyd records in the Ford Dissenters and OPR's. I would love to see the gravestone inscriptions from Ford Cemetary, but haven't been able to find them online.  We are just really beginning to dig into the Boyds of Northumberland, so hopefully we will find a link at some point.  Because our Boyd's are tenant farmers, I suspect that we are at least a couple of generations from the main line.  I am glad that you are looking at this part of the world as we need help!   Yolanda From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: Yolanda Boyd <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net>; BOYD-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, July 8, 2011 2:02 AM Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? Yolanda & others researching the Scottish Borders Migration of Boyd's FROM England to the Scottish Borders. Following Yolanda Boyd's reply to my query about when Boyd families migrated to England and to where, I had another look at this issue again. MY THEORY IS THAT THE BOYDS MIGRATED FROM ENGLAND TO THE SCOTTISH BORDERS! It is known that Lord Robert Boyd, when overthrown in Scotland in 1469, fled to Alnwick, Northumberland England. From an unknown American researcher, it would appear that Lord Boyd had a 6th son Adam Boyd born in 1460 who went with him to Alnwick, whoever, we - at this time - do not know if any other Boyds went with him as family or "servants". While it is "said" this Adam Boyd after his second marriage went to the Leeds area and the chart lists a further 11 generations. It is known that:- O2 James Boyd, ninth Lord Boyd, bc 1600, d 16xx, appears to have died in March 1654, m before 1640, Catherine Crayke (or Craik), second daughter and co heir of John Crayk of the City of York, b 16xx, baptised 3 January 1618-19 (Bridlington), d 16xx, and had issue:- and T2 James Boyd, styled Lord Boyd, but for the attainder of 1746, fifth of Earl of Kilmarnock, and fifteenth Earl of Erroll, b 20/4/1726 (Falkirk), d 3/7/1778 (Callendar House), m 15/9/1749 Rebecca Lockhart, daughter of Alexander Lockhart of Cogington (Craighouse) (Lord Covington ? or Lord Woodhall ?), b 17xx, d 2/5/1761 (Bristol) and had issue:-, m secondly 10/8/1762 (Ford Church), Isabella Carr, daughter of Sir William Carr, Bt, of Etal, Northumberland, b 31/3/1742, d 3/11/1808 (Queen St Edinburgh), bu Abbey of Holyroadhouse, and had issue:- Both the 9th Lord Boyd [O2] marriage and the second marriage of James Boyd [T2], son of the 4th Earl of Kilmarnock have puzzled me for over 20 years, as to why these two Heads of the Clan married English brides. However, after talking to Clint and Yolanda in Grand Rapids MI and looking at this family of Adam Boyd again, it MIGHT HAVE BEEN that the Head of the Clan had come to England to visit their distant cousins in Northern England which led to them meeting their future brides. The Carrs of Etal, Northumberland, England is only 9 kms east of Coldstream on the Tweed River in Scotland and only about 4 or 5 kms NE of Flodden Battle field. In this Chart in the 5th to the 7th generation - from the late 1500's to early to mid 1600's there is three generations of Raffe or Ralph Boyd's given. This is still a large gap to Yolanda and Clint Ralph Boyd born in about 1733-38. The towns of Doddington, Chatton and Wooler are about 12-18 kms SE of Floddon Fields and about 21-29 kms NW of Alnwick. So could or might these English Boyd families have moved back across the Scottish Border after the Union between England and Scotland in 1707. It will be interesting to see if any of our researchers can find Boyds on the Scottish side of the border before 1707. It will also be interesting to see what other DNA result might show form Boyd families from the north of England and the Scottish Border region. And it would be interesting to see if any of these English Boyd families MIGHT HAVE Arms that tell us they are for a 6th son of a Lord. For your consideration Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yolanda Boyd" <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net> To: <boyd@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? Hi Mike, My husband, Clint's, Boyd line was concentrated in the Borders of England/Scotland until they moved to South Africa in the 1890's. In our research, we have not been able to connect to all the other families in the borders, but can't say that they aren't related in the 1700's or earlier. His oldest known Boyd is Ralph Boyd (Boid), b. abt 1733/38 and lived in the Doddington/Chatton/Wooler area of Northumberland, England. He married Ann Brown in Chatton in 1758 and moved the family to Norham, Northumberland, along the border of Scotland where they were tenant farmers. They baptized their children at Spittal United Presbyterian in Berwick-Upon-Tweed, England. Their son, Aaron Boyd, b. 1769, married Margaret Steele and baptized their first child at Haggerston Roman Catholic before they moved to Westruther, Berwick, Scotland where they were tenant farmers at Whitburn Farm. They moved there along with Aaron's sister, Margaret, who married Alexander Bird, tenant farmer at Thornidyke, Westruther. The siblings lived within 1 mile of each other. There was another Boyd family who were tenant farmers of the same landlord who lived 1 mile away from them, John Boyd of Broomybank (and Elizabeth Tait) who would have been about the same age as Aaron Boyd. We don't know if this is just a coincidence or if they were cousins. Aaron Boyd's son, Thomas Boyd b. 1799, married Barbara Turnbull and lived in Greenlaw, Berwick, Scotland. He was a coachdriver and died of smallpox in 1837. His son Robert Boyd, b. 1836 in Greenlaw, married Christina Hood and lived in a variety of areas of Berwickshire, including Duns, Lauder, Eccles and Langton. This family moved to Liverpool, England between the 1880 and 1890 census. My husbands gggrandfather, Thomas Boyd, b. 1960 did not follow his parents to Liverpool. He was in the Argyllshire Highlanders and moved with his wife, Annie Ross to South Africa where  the family remained for generations. Yolanda Boyd Alnwick, Northumberland England. From an unknown American researcher, it would appear that Lord Boyd had a 6th son Adam Boyd born in 1460 who went with him to Alnwick, whoever, we - at this time - do not know if any other Boyds went with him as family or "servants". While it is "said" this Adam Boyd after his second marriage went to the Leeds area and the chart lists a further 11 generations. It is known that:- O2 James Boyd, ninth Lord Boyd, bc 1600, d 16xx, appears to have died in March 1654, m before 1640, Catherine Crayke (or Craik), second daughter and co heir of John Crayk of the City of York, b 16xx, baptised 3 January 1618-19 (Bridlington), d 16xx, and had issue:- and T2 James Boyd, styled Lord Boyd, but for the attainder of 1746, fifth of Earl of Kilmarnock, and fifteenth Earl of Erroll, b 20/4/1726 (Falkirk), d 3/7/1778 (Callendar House), m 15/9/1749 Rebecca Lockhart, daughter of Alexander Lockhart of Cogington (Craighouse) (Lord Covington ? or Lord Woodhall ?), b 17xx, d 2/5/1761 (Bristol) and had issue:-, m secondly 10/8/1762 (Ford Church), Isabella Carr, daughter of Sir William Carr, Bt, of Etal, Northumberland, b 31/3/1742, d 3/11/1808 (Queen St Edinburgh), bu Abbey of Holyroadhouse, and had issue:- Both the 9th Lord Boyd [O2] marriage and the second marriage of James Boyd [T2], son of the 4th Earl of Kilmarnock have puzzled me for over 20 years, as to why these two Heads of the Clan married English brides. However, after talking to Clint and Yolanda in Grand Rapids MI and looking at this family of Adam Boyd again, it MIGHT HAVE BEEN that the Head of the Clan had come to England to visit their distant cousins in Northern England which led to them meeting their future brides. The Carrs of Etal, Northumberland, England is only 9 kms east of Coldstream on the Tweed River in Scotland and only about 4 or 5 kms NE of Flodden Battle field. In this Chart in the 5th to the 7th generation - from the late 1500's to early to mid 1600's there is three generations of Raffe or Ralph Boyd's given. This is still a large gap to Yolanda and Clint Ralph Boyd born in about 1733-38. The towns of Doddington, Chatton and Wooler are about 12-18 kms SE of Floddon Fields and about 21-29 kms NW of Alnwick. So could or might these English Boyd families have moved back across the Scottish Border after the Union between England and Scotland in 1707. It will be interesting to see if any of our researchers can find Boyds on the Scottish side of the border before 1707. It will also be interesting to see what other DNA result might show form Boyd families from the north of England and the Scottish Border region. And it would be interesting to see if any of these English Boyd families MIGHT HAVE Arms that tell us they are for a 6th son of a Lord. For your consideration Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yolanda Boyd" <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net> To: <boyd@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? Hi Mike, My husband, Clint's, Boyd line was concentrated in the Borders of England/Scotland until they moved to South Africa in the 1890's. In our research, we have not been able to connect to all the other families in the borders, but can't say that they aren't related in the 1700's or earlier. His oldest known Boyd is Ralph Boyd (Boid), b. abt 1733/38 and lived in the Doddington/Chatton/Wooler area of Northumberland, England. He married Ann Brown in Chatton in 1758 and moved the family to Norham, Northumberland, along the border of Scotland where they were tenant farmers. They baptized their children at Spittal United Presbyterian in Berwick-Upon-Tweed, England. Their son, Aaron Boyd, b. 1769, married Margaret Steele and baptized their first child at Haggerston Roman Catholic before they moved to Westruther, Berwick, Scotland where they were tenant farmers at Whitburn Farm. They moved there along with Aaron's sister, Margaret, who married Alexander Bird, tenant farmer at Thornidyke, Westruther. The siblings lived within 1 mile of each other. There was another Boyd family who were tenant farmers of the same landlord who lived 1 mile away from them, John Boyd of Broomybank (and Elizabeth Tait) who would have been about the same age as Aaron Boyd. We don't know if this is just a coincidence or if they were cousins. Aaron Boyd's son, Thomas Boyd b. 1799, married Barbara Turnbull and lived in Greenlaw, Berwick, Scotland. He was a coachdriver and died of smallpox in 1837. His son Robert Boyd, b. 1836 in Greenlaw, married Christina Hood and lived in a variety of areas of Berwickshire, including Duns, Lauder, Eccles and Langton. This family moved to Liverpool, England between the 1880 and 1890 census. My husbands gggrandfather, Thomas Boyd, b. 1960 did not follow his parents to Liverpool. He was in the Argyllshire Highlanders and moved with his wife, Annie Ross to South Africa where  the family remained for generations. Yolanda Boyd Berwick-Upon-Tweed, England. Their son, Aaron Boyd, b. 1769, married Margaret Steele and baptized their first child at Haggerston Roman Catholic before they moved to Westruther, Berwick, Scotland where they were tenant farmers at Whitburn Farm. They moved there along with Aaron's sister, Margaret, who married Alexander Bird, tenant farmer at Thornidyke, Westruther. The siblings lived within 1 mile of each other. There was another Boyd family who were tenant farmers of the same landlord who lived 1 mile away from them, John Boyd of Broomybank (and Elizabeth Tait) who would have been about the same age as Aaron Boyd. We don't know if this is just a coincidence or if they were cousins. Aaron Boyd's son, Thomas Boyd b. 1799, married Barbara Turnbull and lived in Greenlaw, Berwick, Scotland. He was a coachdriver and died of smallpox in 1837. His son Robert Boyd, b. 1836 in Greenlaw, married Christina Hood and lived in a variety of areas of Berwickshire, including Duns, Lauder, Eccles and Langton. This family moved to Liverpool, England between the 1880 and 1890 census. My husbands gggrandfather, Thomas Boyd, b. 1960 did not follow his parents to Liverpool. He was in the Argyllshire Highlanders and moved with his wife, Annie Ross to South Africa where  the family remained for generations. Yolanda Boyd

Hi Mike,   We have never made a "link" with a known ancestor as all of our trees are too recent.  The matches I have had contact with at a genetic distance of between 3-4 at 67 markers have mainly been living in the US and can trace their roots back to Ireland, but generally stop in Ireland.  They are often still looking at the 1700-1800's.  We have never had a match with someone who has links to either England or the borders region of Scotland, but our tree is only 9 generations deep at our oldest known ancestor in the 1730's.   Yolanda Boyd From: Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> To: Yolanda Boyd <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net>; boyd@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, July 7, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? - U-198 DNA connection Yolanda & Clint How many genrations back before you make a link to other "DNA testers" ? Mike Boyd ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yolanda Boyd" <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net> To: <boyd@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? Hi Mike, My husband, Clint's, Boyd line was concentrated in the Borders of England/Scotland until they moved to South Africa in the 1890's. Clint is part of the U-198 DNA group and I would be interested to see if anyone else who is researching this area has had a DNA test and can help us determine if the families in this area are indeed related at some point. Yolanda Boyd

Clint and I were a match (67), same distance as I am with Calvin Boyd. Sent from my iphone On Jul 7, 2011, at 10:39 PM, "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > Yolanda & Clint > How many genrations back before you make a link to other "DNA testers" ? > > Mike Boyd > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yolanda Boyd" <ymlboyd@sbcglobal.net> > To: <boyd@rootsweb.com>; <BOYD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 11:53 PM > Subject: Re: [BOYD] When did the Boyd's go to the Scottish Border area? > > > Hi Mike, > > My husband, Clint's, Boyd line was concentrated in the Borders of > England/Scotland until they moved to South Africa in the 1890's. > > > Clint is part of the U-198 DNA group and I would be interested to see if > anyone else who is researching this area has had a DNA test and can help us > determine if the families in this area are indeed related at some point. > > Yolanda Boyd > > > > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2012 will be held in Woodland,CA, USA in conjunction with the Sacramento Caledonian Club's 136th annual Sacramento Valley Scottish Games & Festival in April 2012 (unofficial date April 28th and 29th -- to be confirmed by the venue). Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > ____________________________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2011 was a great success in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. > _______________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > ==================== > Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

As I have just mentioned in my Email on the Boyd families in the Scottish Border area, the question need to be ask to start a process of finding out when and where Boyd families moved to various Counties in England. So can members provide information on the names and dates of where there family move to English Counties, say before 1800. Thank you ? Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society

For those of you how have been to one of my talks, I have said that Boyds seemed to have settled in about 8 other areas outside of Ayrshire in Scotland. One of these is in the Melrose - Kelso area of the border with England. The PROBLEM is that I do not know when Boyd families move to this area of Scotland. So do any members of this list know of any dates for their earliest "Boyd" families in this area. I do know that:- A) Robert the Bruce, in 1306, gave several estates in Galloway - Dumfriesshire to Wigtonshire - but we do not know what Boyd families lived on these estates. B) We know that first Lord Robert Boyd's brother was in possession of Drumcol, (now Duncow) Dumfriesshire which is about 7 kms north of Dumfries. This estate was forfeited in 1469 when Lord Boyd was overthrown and Sir Alexander was executed. C) According to Scots Peerage, Sir Alexander Boyd had a son Alexander who was "living 1500 but died before August 1502" and "had a lease by Royal Letters of 8 January 1490-91, with consent of John Kennedy of Blairquhan, of half of Egirness, Culdery, and Andecut." I am not sure where these three estates might have been in Scotland. At this time we do not know what happened to the son Alexander Boyd nor do we know his age in 1469 when his father was executed. D) So he may have gone to live with his mother's Kennedy family or he may have been taken in by his grandmother's family of Maxwell's of Calderwood. I am not sure if these came from the Glasgow area or from around Dumfries. While his Aunty was the Countess of Angus, the wife of Archibald Douglas, so he may have gone to live with or work for one of the Douglas Cadets in Southern Scotland. Or he may have some other link to some of the other families from the "Border" area of Scotland. While doing another project, I found these two IGI entries for Berwick-upon-Tweed in England but very close at the mouth of the Tweed River to this Scottish Border region. Anne BOIDE (F)............ C: 12 Oct 1620 B: 5 Feb 1963 LOGAN Ba: P000221 Father: Thomas BOIDE Berwick Upon Tweed, Northumberland, E: 13 Jun 1963 SLAKE So: 094987 England SP: 23 Mar 1970 SLAKE Pr: 0453486 Anna BOIDE (F)............ C: 12 Oct 1620 B: 6 Aug 1938 LOGAN F#: 177931 @ Father: Thomas BOIDE of Berwick on Tweed, Northumberland, E: Pre-1970 P#: 797 England SP: Pre-1970 O#: 30934 I could not find any other children born to this "Thomas Boide" but it does indicate that Boyds were in the "Borders" by 1620 if not earlier. I am not sure if looking at the IGI Batch numbers above will help to take this family back further and to where. The other question is there any link to the Boyd families at Greenlaw, Gordon, Ednam, Duns, Earlston and Smailholm where a number of Boyd families are listed to have come from. Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee House of Boyd Society

I've been there loads of times, its right next to Bellahouston park On 7 July 2011 18:02, Lauren Boyd McLachlan <confido@gmail.com> wrote: > Thank you Terry for chiming in from Scotland! It is always nice to > know that you are local and willing to "run errands!" > > Aye, > > Lauren > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:21 AM, Terry Boyd <terry.boyd@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's called Boydstone Road > > > > *Boydstone Rd, Glasgow, Glasgow City G58 1, > > UK*< > http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Boydstone+Rd,+Glasgow,+Glasgow+City+G58+1,+United+Kingdom&aq=&vps=2&jsv=353b&sll=55.866529,-3.979207&sspn=0.01977,0.038581&ie=UTF8&split=0&oi=georefine&ct=clnk&cd=2&geocode=FWzJUwMd_Ou9_w > > > > > > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2012 will be held in Woodland,CA, USA in conjunction with the > Sacramento Caledonian Club's 136th annual Sacramento Valley Scottish Games & > Festival in April 2012 (unofficial date April 28th and 29th -- to be > confirmed by the venue). Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested > in helping to plan it. > ____________________________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2011 was a great success in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction > with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. > _______________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd > Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The > Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin > McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see > http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > ==================== > Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make > sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? > Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk > for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://www.facebook.com/scot32

It's called Boydstone Road *Boydstone Rd, Glasgow, Glasgow City G58 1, UK*<http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&q=Boydstone+Rd,+Glasgow,+Glasgow+City+G58+1,+United+Kingdom&aq=&vps=2&jsv=353b&sll=55.866529,-3.979207&sspn=0.01977,0.038581&ie=UTF8&split=0&oi=georefine&ct=clnk&cd=2&geocode=FWzJUwMd_Ou9_w> On 6 July 2011 09:25, Mike Boyd <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> wrote: > List members who have the name BOYDSTON/BOYDSTUN and come from Scotland may > be interested in this. > > I have got a reply of a 4th Boydston farm which is situated in the Park > where Pollok House and Pollokshaws House is and has the B762 road running > through it. The road runs south to the Kennishead railway station. > > These Pollok Lands seemed to be part of the Maxwell land's who the Chief's > family had a long relationship with. > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Boyd" <mikejboyd@bigpond.com> > To: <AYRSHIRE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:23 PM > Subject: [AYR] Boydstun Road between Barrhead and Glasgow > > > > During my trip to the USA in April/May 2011, I became aware of the link > > between name "Boyd" and the names of Boydstun and Boydston. Then at > > Nashville, TN, I found several books on these families. Mr Q. B. Boydstun > > of > > Fort Gibson, Okalahoma, in his 1972 book, The Ancestors of John Hall > > Boydstun and his Descendants, page 1, said:- > > > > "The history of the Boydstun family in America started with the name > > Boylston. The names Boylston and Boydston were used by the same family in > > the early records of Virginia. In South Carolina the name Boylston is > > still > > used. In North Carolina, Tennessee, and Kentucky, the names Boylston, > > Boydstone, Boilston, Boydston, and Boydstun are used by the same family. > > > > "The tradition in all branches of the family are that our ancestry was > > Scotch. In early days in Scotland a farm with a group of buildings were > > spoken of as a "farm-town". The name of the owner had "ton" added for > > town. > > Thus, a farm owner by Boyd would be known as Boydston and the owner was > > often known not by his own family name, but by the name of his farm. > > > > "At one time, the Boyles owned most of the land around Barrhead, Scotland > > and although the land was been sold a number of times, the name of the > > family still lingers as "Boyleston Farm". There is also a road called > > "Boydston Road", which leaves a main road between Barrhead and Glasgow, > > which is seven miles away and runs past a farm of considerable size which > > was once called Boydston. The names Boylston and Boydston are not common > > in > > Scotland, but are known locally around Barrhead in 1943." > > > > Could I ask for the assistance of members of the Ayrshire list concerning > > this last paragraph. > > > > Is the author saying that "Boydston Road" if off "a main road between > > Barrhead and Glasgow", and > > > > that "Barrhead" is 7 miles from Glasgow or that the farm "Boydston" is 7 > > miles from Barrhead? > > > > I have the Landranger Ordnance Map # 64, Glasgow but this does not tell > me > > if there is any Boydston Road in the southern suburbs of Glasgow. > > > > However, I do know that on the Paisley to Beith Road (A737), just 2 kms > NE > > of Beith - and just inside Renfrewshire - is a farm marked Boydstone. > This > > is east of the first round-a-bout going north of Beith. This is shown on > > map > > # 63 of the same series, Firth of Clyde. > > > > This area could have been part of the Barony of Gavin and Risk (which I > > understand that the Boyds first held when they came to Scotland prior to > > 1200 AD.) > > > > While on the same map series, but # 63, Firth of Clyde, some 3 1/2 kms > > north > > of the Ardrossan Harbour is a second farm called "Boydstone". This I > think > > is part of the land that Robert the Bruce gave to Sir Robert Boyd in > > 1306 - > > most likely at his coronation in March of 1306. > > > > While third farm called "Boydston" is shown on the Explorer map #333, > > about > > 1 km west of Carnell House and about 1/2 km west of the A719 Road that > > goes > > past Carnell House in Kyle, Ayrshire. > > > > At this time I do not think that the "Boydstun's" mentioned in Mr Q. B. > > Boydstun's book come from any of these farms but more likely from members > > of > > Clan Boyd who move with the First Lord Robert Boyd to Alnwick in 1469. > > > > I would be grateful if anyone can point me towards this Boydstun Road > > between Barrhead and Glasgow, so I can put that on my list of tasks to do > > during my 2012 trip to Scotland. > > > > Thank you > > > > ? > > > > Mike Boyd > > > > Historical Committee > > > > House of Boyd Society > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > AYRSHIRE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2012 will be held in Woodland,CA, USA in conjunction with the > Sacramento Caledonian Club's 136th annual Sacramento Valley Scottish Games & > Festival in April 2012 (unofficial date April 28th and 29th -- to be > confirmed by the venue). Write AGM@clanboyd.org if you would be interested > in helping to plan it. > ____________________________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2011 was a great success in Las Vegas, Nevada, USA in conjunction > with The Highland Games and Celtic Gathering April 16-17, 2011. > _______________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd > Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The > Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin > McLachlan, Editor at Editor@clanboyd.org > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see > http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > ==================== > Most replies should go to the list, not just the author of the post. Make > sure to include the list address Boyd@rootsweb.com > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Write me off list at Boyd-admin@rootsweb.com > ==================== > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? > Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk > for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOYD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- http://www.facebook.com/scot32