This is what google provided when searching on amphill grange. You did not specify a country and asked for the county. I am afraid my crystal ball is a bit chipped. So... I should be looking to Maryland, USA for amphill grange? Aye, Lauren >
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote & I snipped: > I am not sure in which County that 'Amphill Grange' might now be located > or was in 1705. So can anyone inform the list please. > ______________________________ http://www.ampthillhistory.co.uk/index.php/homepage "Ampthill is a small market town with a more interesting and significant history than many towns of much larger size. The town grew around a major cross-roads and its position on the greensand ridge gave it a prominent position overlooking the Vale of Bedford. This, together with its attractive buildings, creates a certain charm that rarely fails to cast its spell on residents and visitors alike. " http://www.ampthilltowncouncil.org.uk/ http://www.ampthill.info/ https://www.facebook.com/Ampthill.Info
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 5:21 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote & I snipped: > > I am not sure in which County that 'Amphill Grange' might now be located > or was in 1705. So can anyone inform the list please. > ______________________________ http://www.ampthillhistory.co.uk/index.php/history-guides?id=80 History Guides Ampthill Chronology AA This is a select list of events relating to Ampthill 1089 *Ammetelle* recorded in Domesday Book ------------------------------ 1219 A Royal Charter was granted for a weekly market in Ampthill 1242 The Market was confirmed by a Royal Charter, which also gave right to hold a fair on the feast of St Mary Magdalen (22 July) ------------------------------ c.1375 The Grange area of Ampthill belonged to the monks of Woburn Abbey (Old Warden) who kept flocks of sheep in the area c.1420s Ampthill 'Castle' built for John Cornwall (later Lord Fanhope) who married Princess Elizabeth of Lancaster (sister of King Henry VI) 14th –15th century St Andrew’s Church built on site of Norman and possibly Saxon site 1485 The Almshouses beside St Andrew’s Church had been established by this date. Additions were made in the 19th century and the latest restoration and renovation occurred in 1997 ------------------------------ 1533 The marriage of Henry VIII and Katherine of Aragon was annulled. Katherine was resident in Ampthill 'castle' at this point 1542 Henry VIII created by act of parliament the *Honour of Ampthill* ------------------------------ 1615 Houghton House was built for Mary, Countess Pembroke (she died in 1621) 1621 James I visited Houghton House, two months later the Countess of Pembroke died and the Bruce family became tenants of the house. 1624 James I, accompanied by the Prince of Wales (Charles I) visited Ampthill 1625 Richard Nicolls (future first governor of New York) was born at the Great Lodge in Ampthill Park 1643 There was a Parliamentarian raid on Ampthill 1647 Charles I lodged at the Great Lodge in Ampthill Park under close arrest for a couple of nights 1660 John Ashburnham (later Lord Ashburnham) becomes new owner of Ampthill Park 1664 Richard Nicolls received the surrender of Niew Amsterdam from the Dutch and renamed it New York after his friend and commander James, Duke of York (James II). He became New York’s first governor 1672 Richard Nicolls joined the Duke of York at Southwold for the Battle of Sole Bay. He died on the *Royal Prince, *the Duke’s flagship. The Dutch cannonball that took his life was incorporated into his memorial tablet in St Andrew’s Church 1695 The Great Lodge undergoes a major reconstruction for John, 2nd Lord Ashburnham ------------------------------ 1710 John, 2nd Lord Ashburnham dies 1724 The Ampthill estate purchased by Lord Fitzwilliam 1726 The Society of Friends (Quakers) registered a barn for religious meetings 1729 A Workhouse behind 6 Woburn Street was built 1737 Lady Gowran purchased the Ampthill estate as a home for her son John Fitzpatrick, Lord Gowron 1738 Houghton House and estate were sold to the Duke of Bedford 1751 John Fitzpatrick, Lord Gowron is created the Earl of Upper Ossory 1753 The Quakers constructed built a new meeting House at Cow Fair End (Dunstable Street) 1756 The Earl of Upper Ossory dies 1764 Houghton House renovated under the direction of Sir William Chambers as the residence of Francis, Marquis of Tavistock 1768 The Quaker meetinghouse was enlarged 1770s The Morris family establish the brewery in Bedford Street, which became a major employer in the town and supplied most of the towns public houses and over a much greater distance. 1771 Lancelot ‘Capability’ Brown employed to landscape Ampthill Park, while Sir William Chambers made major alterations to the House for the 2nd Earl of Upper Ossory 1785 A new well was sunk on the Market Square together, other general tidying up included building a new market house (plus whipping posts and stocks) 1790 John Morris (of the Brewery) built Avenue House 1794 Houghton House was unroofed and partially dismantled c.1795 The Queen’s Head Public House (14 Woburn Street) closed. The present Queen’s Head opened in mid 19th century 1795 First mention of Inspector of weights and measures in Court records 1795 A new Workhouse was built at Cowfair End (Dunstable Street) 1795 The Workhouse behind 6 Woburn Street was closed 1797 The Union / Baptist congregation began meeting at 83 Dunstable Street ------------------------------ 1808 Ampthill Enclosure Act passed, this transferred common lands into private ownership 1810 The Park Hill Workhouse or House of Industry was built 1811 The House of Industry was built on Park Hill c.1811 The Methodists began to meet at 1 Brewery Lane 1813 A new chapel was built by the Methodists behind 29 Woburn Street (The Manse) 1813 The Wesleyan Chapel was built in Woburn Street c.1816 The thatched *Ossory Cottages* were built along Woburn Street for estate workers 1818 Lord Holland succeeded Lord Ossory as owner of Ampthill Park House and estate 1818 Lord Ossory died and Park House and his Ampthill estate passes to his nephew Henry Richard Vassall Fox (3rd Baron Holland) 1819 The Royal School of Embroidering Females ceased to be run from 105 Dunstable Street. They had previously contributed hangings and curtains to the reconstruction and refurbishment of Windsor Castle by George III 1819 The eastern part of Avenue House was built 1821-27 The Alameda, a double avenue of limes was planted by Lord & Lady Holland 1822 The Union Church constructed in Dunstable Street c.1829 Joseph Morris (brewer) built Ampthill House in Church Street and demolished the previous home of Richard Nicolls 1834 *Ampthill Poor Law Union* created to administer Poor Law 1835 A Poor Law Riot occurred outside the House of Industry (see Report on the riot <http://www.ampthillhistory.co.uk/index.php/reports-research>) 1836 The new Union Workhouse opened in Dunstable Street (room for over 400 inmates). It was managed by a Board of Guardians, under a strict regime. 1840s A Bedfordshire Police Constabulary was created 1841 Duke of Bedford purchased Ampthill Park House and estate following the death of Lord Holland. Sir James Parke (later Lord Wensleydale) continued as tenant until the 1880s 1844 The 1833 Lighting & Watching Act adopted in Ampthill 1844 The British School opened in temporary accommodation. A purpose built building opened on the Sands, Woburn Street 1845 The National School opened in Bedford Street 1849 Ampthill Gas Works beside the southern driveway to Houghton House 1852 The 15th century Moot Hall was pulled down and replaced by the present Clock House 1854 The Manor Court ceased to meet 1856 Ampthill Police Station was built on Park Hill 1860s The Court House in Church Street was built. The Circuit judges served here until the 1920s and the Magistrates until 1963 when a new building was constructed in Woburn Street 1867 The first Ampthill railway tunnel was opened 1868 Ampthill Railway Station opened 1870s Sand Road Iron Works (the Foundry) established by William Whitehouse 1870 The Union Church was extended 1871 The Primitive Methodists opened their new chapel in Saunders Piece 1882 The Duke of Bedford’s workmen remove the original Alameda gates and demolish the red brick curtain wall. The gates were later re-used at the entrance to Bedford School (St Peter’s Green). The present gateway was designed by Professor Richardson. 1884 Emily, Lady Ampthill (a widow) moves into Park House with her two daughters, Misses Constance and Romola 1884 The Wesleyan Methodists built a new chapel, school room and manse in Dunstable Street 1890s Ampthill House considerably extended by the Wingfield family. Antony Wingfield (1857-1952) established a private zoo in its extensive grounds. Following his death the house was demolished and the grounds redeveloped as a housing estate. 1893 *The Local Board for Ampthill* set up and Ampthill elects its first form of local government 1893 The Union Church underwent further extensions to include a schoolroom and vestry 1895 The second Ampthill railway tunnel was opened 1897 A Midland Railway locomotive reached the speed of 90 mph over 2.36 miles of the main line at Ampthill (A world record held until 1903) 1898 Salvation Army built a barracks and house adjacent to 2 Arthur Street ------------------------------ 1901 The Board Room for the Guardians of the Workhouse was built in Flitwick Road. The old thatched cottages on this site having been demolished 1901 First mention of Houghton House possibly being the *Palace Beautiful* in John Bunyan’s *Pilgrims Progress*. No evidence has ever been found to back this assumption. 1904 The Strict Baptist chapel opened in Oliver Street 1910 The old Salvation barracks in Arthur Street was converted to become ‘The Picturedrome’ (capacity 200). Later it became a hat factory, then a shop and house 1910 The first public telephone in Ampthill was installed at the Post Office in ‘Russell House’ (4 Bedford Street) 1914/5 The Duke of Bedford built a training camp on the hill in Ampthill Park 1917 127th Canadian Forestry Corp. felled the pine plantation (The Firs) for use as pit props in the first world war trenches. 1920s The Foundry closed and was used for some time as a builders merchants yard before being demolished in the 1970s 1920 The Primitive Methodist chapel was converted in the ‘Electric Kinema’ (a cinema) 1921 Princess Beatrice unveiled the cenotaph at the end of the Alameda as a memorial to the town’s dead. A second memorial was later unveiled outside St Andrew’s church by Lord Ampthill. 1922 The former Kings Head Inn was converted into a drill hall for the Territorial Army 1926 The Ampthill Morris Brewery closed 1927 Emily, Lady Ampthill died and her daughters continued to live at Park House until the early years of the Second World War. 1929 The responsibility for the Workhouse passed from the Board of Guardians to the County Council 1929 The Quaker meetinghouse was sold for use as a Church hall 1934/5 The Roman Catholic Church in Flitwick Road was opened 1936 The buildings of Ampthill Morris Brewery were demolished. A new cinema (Zonita) and petrol filling Station (Flitt Motors) were built on the vacant site 1937 The Drill Hall was opened in Woburn Street for the Territorial Army 1937 Ampthill’s third cinema, The Zonita opened in Bedford Street 1939 The ‘Electric Kinema’ in Saunders Piece closed 1940 Park House requisitioned for use during the war 1940s Part of the Park was sold to Bovril Ltd for grazing cattle. They had set up a factory in Reddings Wood during the early part of the war. After Park House was no longer needed for military purposes, Bovril used it asn entertainment centre 1940s The former Workhouse in Dunstable Street became The Cedars and cared for local elderly 1947 Ampthill Urban District Council purchased Ampthill Park for the townspeople 1948 The former Kings Head Inn was converted into offices 1949 The former Primitive Methodist / ‘Electric Kinema’ opens as a branch library 1954 Redborne School opened as a Secondary Modern (11+) 1954 Bedfordshire County Council took over responsibility for education in Ampthill. Both schools closed and the Sands School reopened as a County Primary School 1955 Park House was sold to Group Captain Leonard Cheshire VC for use as Cheshire Home 1958 The Police Station in Woburn Street opened 1960s The Roman Catholic Church in Flitwick Road was extended 1963 The Magistrates Court in Woburn Street opened 1963 Parkside Hall opened in Woburn Street 1966 Bovril sold their section of the Park to a local farmer 1966 The second phase of Redborne School was opened (the northern site) 1967 The new offices of Ampthill Rural District Council opened in Dunstable Street. The building was designed by Sir Albert Richardson 1971 Ampthill Urban District Council purchased The Firs for the town. It has subsequently been declared a Local Nature Reserve and a Site of Special Scientific Interest. 1973 Nottingham Rooms and Alameda Sports Hall opened 1974 The concept of Lower, Middle and Upper Schools introduced. Russell School became a Lower school (5-9), Redborne became an Upper school (13+) and two new schools were built. The Firs Lower School and Alameda Middle Schools (9-13) opened on former allotments between Station Road and The Alameda 1975 The 17th century wall painting of the Prince of Wales feathers (Charles II) were uncovered at The White Hart 1977 A new purpose built Cheshire Home is built along Woburn Street. Park House is subsequently sold for redevelopment and restoration. Today it has been converted into three separate houses. 1978 Ampthill Town Council purchase the old Quaker meetinghouse and rename it ‘Ampthill Hall’ 1983 Ampthill bypass was opened (40 years after discussions started on a possible route) 1986 The Roman Catholic Church in Flitwick Road closed 1990s The Cedars closed and was converted into luxury apartments 1994 The Board Room for the Guardians of the Workhouse was converted to become Ampthill’s library. The old library in Saunders Piece closes ------------------------------ 2001 The White Hart suffers extensive damage to roof and upper floors following early morning fire. © Barry Dackombe & Ampthill History Forum 1999-2012
Mike -- I am not sure who may be closest. Nor am I sure what is to be found or what is desired to be found at that library. Darryl is about 2.5 hours away (approx 126-143 miles). Might be a lot to ask someone to make a 5 hour round trip. What can be found via the Internet for content at that library? The reference Librarian at most libraries enjoy helping people with their queries on whatever subject. http://www.armslibrary.org/library-home.aspx https://www.facebook.com/ArmsLibrary Yours Aye, Lauren
Ray and others I am sure that a Boyd or Boyd descendant married the founder of Quaker Oats? However, I can't find it at present. Does anyone know which Boyd family - I think from PA - this connection might come from Thank you Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Ray Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian uprising to NY/PA? Martha Clow (1894-1990) was the wife of Donald Boynton Douglas, vice-president of the Quaker Oats company, in Chicago. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=26045067 She was the daughter of William Ellsworth Clow,
Ray as you most likely know that this is the same family as Larry Boyd 5 M William BOYD Senior Birth: 25 Sep 1766 Knocknavaddy, Parish of Desertcreat, Ele Immigration: 31 Oct 1804 Charleston, South Carolina Death: South Carolina Spouse: Margaret LYONS Who come from Knocknavaddy half way between Cookstown and Dungannon in County Tyrone. This family starts with a Samuel Boyd in 1718 and is outlined in the book:- The Decendants and Ancetors of James Boyd and Nancy Wier, by William R. Boyd, 1991, Quill Publications of Columbus, Georgia. [This complete family history is on Larry Boyd's webpages back 10 genrations along with any pictures that we had of our family members. There is also a page about my dad's book there. This book is now on http://www.lgboyd.com/boydbook/boydbook.htm Ray is this branch part of your section of Samuel's family. Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Ray Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:22 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian uprising to NY/PA? Martha Clow (1894-1990) was the wife of Donald Boynton Douglas, vice-president of the Quaker Oats company, in Chicago. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=26045067 She was the daughter of William Ellsworth Clow, who was the son of Matilda Ross Clow, the daughter of Mary S. Boyd Ross, the daughter of Col. Joseph T. Boyd "of Mercer Co, PA.," the son of John Boyd and Jane Holand from County Armagh, N. Ireland, the son of William Boyd and Margaret Lyons from Dungannon, Co. Tyrone, N. Ireland, who landed at Charleston, S.C., Oct. 31, 1804 on the ship "Lady Washington" from Belfast, N. Ireland. Martha Clow's great-grandmother Mary Boyd Ross wrote many letters to her Boyd, Hamilton and Wier cousins in the 1870s-90s attempting to document the Boyd family history. Her grandson Harry Beach Clow was president of the Rand McNally company. I hope one day to find that some of the Clow family have preserved the correspondence that Mary Boyd Ross received from other Boyd descendants. The letters from her that survive in other collections are tantalizing and helpful in many respects but give a fragmentary picture of this Boyd family. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:49:14 +1000 > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian > uprising to NY/PA? > > Hang on, we Scots like our Oats!! > > Some even have sown their wild Oats, while others drink it. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rommy Lopat > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian > uprising to NY/PA? > > Second, when I googled 1718 Project, this link came up: > http://scotchirishfood.blogspot.com/. Loved it! I thought I'd (re?)share a > bit of her "Why did the Scots move to Maine? Because they couldn't grow > oats anymore" research: > http://scotchirishfood.blogspot.com/2010/05/what-does-scot-do-when-they-cant-grow.html. > Great stuff. > ==================== House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to http://www.clanboyd.org for more information ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at [email protected] ==================== Remember to trim your message before hitting send! Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. ==================== This list is set for replies to go to the list address [email protected] not just the author of the post. ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? 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It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, Memorial Day Weekend 2013. _______________________________________________________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? 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My initial response was an "generic" request for all Boyd researchers when they find Boyd data that is not part of their own Branch of letting the list know that X Library is hold Y book/publication on the Z Boyd family. While at various times various researchers will ask for a look up of specific Data on their own family which they can't get access to because of distance. During my trip in June 2013, while at the Allen County Library, I did copy Arthur Boyd's book of 1924 and I have been typing up the family of the first son of James Boyd, the father, called James Boyd of Berwick, Maine. The early details of Arthur Boyd's are not very clear - with dates and locations - and 2014 might be a good year to update this publication. >From both Arthur Boyd's Book and Richard G Boyd's book of 1993 on the family of James Boyd, son John Boyd of Shelburne Falls, MA, they both say that the father of the three brothers was a "Captain James Boyd" of Ireland who was the first Earl's son. I have disputed this claim for over a decade. However, when I was typing up Arthur Boyd's details into a family Chapter, I remembered that several Boyds were Officers at the Siege of Londonderry. There was one Captain James Boyd who was killed on 5 July 1689 in Shipquay Street. So this person MIGHT BE THE FATHER of these three brothers but their birth would be much earlier than the 1700-1705 period suggested by both books. If this Captain James Boyd is not their father, then we have to find a second Captain James Boyd in Ireland. So remember members when you find new Boyd information for yourself TELL THE LIST and if MEMBERS ask for assistance in finding data AND YOU KNOW that it is in your local Library let the member know that you could VOLUNTEER to do a look on your next visit in few days or few weeks. Hopefully in Patricia's case, we can get, or already have, a male Boyd from each of James Boyd and John Boyd's families who can confirm that they are actually the two bothers mentioned in both books. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS -----Original Message----- From: Colin Brooks Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:27 PM To: boyd Subject: Re: [BOYD] Helping other Boyds with research While the intent of Mike's message is valid and clear, I can't seem to figure out what we are to "find" about this family. It has been researched adnauseum. The living descendant and Mike disagree on the possible origins, but the names of "who" are pretty clear. Anyway, I emailed Patricia and asked this question- "what do you want us to find?". I hope she joins the Boyd list. Everyone needs to list what you have and WHERE you found it. Then you can ask us to do lookups that are valid. I'd love to see her source for the origins of the above family. I'm pretty sure no one has made that definitive connection for John Boyd of Shelbourne Falls, Massachusetts. On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Members > In 2012, when Barry took me to the Dallas Public Library they proudly told > me there were the 8th largest genealogical Library in the USA (I was very > disappointed, as I had been told that everything in the Great State of > Texas > was larger than any where else in the USA.) > > Barry, it looks like you will not be dating on Thursday nights for a long > while. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Boyd > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:23 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Helping other Boyds with research > > Mike and cousins, > On this subject I would like to make myself available to look-up stuff > for people here in the Dallas Library. I work, so I can do look-ups on > Thursday nights when they are open late. Librarians are priceless, and > can greatly assist us, specially if you let them know in advance what > you are searching for, they can pull it for us. > > Barry in Dallas > > Mike Boyd wrote: > > While Patricia has sent this to me privately, I am replying to the whole > > list, as it brings up the specific issue of “ALL” of us can help > > someone > > else with information from their local library. > > > > > > > ==================== > House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary > Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to > http://www.clanboyd.org for more information > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? 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Write the Help Desk > for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > > _________________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2014 will be held in conjunction with the St. Andrews Society of > Detroit's Highland Games at Livonia, Michigan, USA. The date is to be > confirmed by the venue, however, this year's event (2013) is the first > weekend in August. Please plan on attending! > > Write [email protected] if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2013 was a great success. It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in > conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, > Memorial > Day Weekend 2013. > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd > Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The > Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? 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Write [email protected] if you would be interested in helping to plan it. ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2013 was a great success. It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, Memorial Day Weekend 2013. _______________________________________________________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? 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Rommy In 1995 James Curran of Pittsburgh, sent me a 55 page FILE title "Boyd Family History" which covered the families of John Boyd and his brother Rev Adam Boyd of Upper Octorara In this paper he outlines that their ancestors were:- WHE1, pp 323-324: His [Adam Boyd's, grandson of Rev. Adam Boyd] ancestors were of that sturdy and fearless race, who, after winning religious liberty at home, braved the perils of the ocean and a life in the wilds of America, that they might establish civil and religious freedom in the New World. The ancestor of this family was Adam Boyd, an officer of the rank of captain in the army sent by Charles I, to Ireland, on the roll of Scottish division June 6, 1649. As was usual in Scotland, one of the sons, Adam (2) went into the Church; his son Adam (3) was also a Presbyterian clergyman. Early in 1714, his son John (4) and a younger brother, Rev. Adam Boyd, left their native land, Scotland, arriving at Philadelphia in the summer of that year. This gives us the following lineage: I. Adam Boyd (I) - captain in the army sent by Charles I to Ireland II. Rev. Adam Boyd (II) III. Rev Adam Boyd (III) - b. 1666, Presby. clergyman, m. Mary Norton Children: A-1: John Boyd A-2: Rev. Adam Boyd (IV) If this lineage is correct, then our Rev. Adam Boyd is clearly Adam Boyd (IV). I must admit, however, to two qualms in all this. First, this lineage has John Boyd (A-1) marrying Jane Craig, daughter of Thomas in 1715. Similarly, Rev. Adam (A-2) married Jane Craighead, daughter of Thomas in 1723. Not impossible, but the stories are so much alike as to raise a serious question. Second, it contains the statement "1714. John and his younger brother, Rev. Adam Boyd, Sr., left Scotland and came to Philadelphia." On the face of it, this statement is demonstrably wrong. Rev. Adam Boyd did not leave from Scotland, he did not come in 1714, and he did not come to Philadelphia. However, there is, of course, the possibility that he did travel with his older brother in 1714, even he was not a minister at the time, and then returned to Ireland to enter upon his first trials in Coleraine. Where WHE1 is - Pennsylvania Genealogies, William H. Egle, 1886 Over the years, I think that I have heard some people question this work of Egle. So this quotation may need to be questioned. While I was at the Games in Greenville, SC in May 2013, some showed me their tree showing that Captain Adam Boyd was the son of Bishop Andrew Boyd, the natural son of the 6th Lord Boyd. Bishop Boyd's son Adam was born in 1599 and not in 1625 as many sources give for the birth of Captain Adam Boyd. O6 Adam Boyd, b / /1599 ( ), d /5/1649 ( , Glasgow, Scot.), bu , m / /162x (church, town, county, etc), Bessie Boyd, dau of Portencross [see below for possible links for Bessie], b / /160x ( ), d / /16xx ( ), after 1649, bu , and THOUGHT did not have issue:- [Lived: ] >From History of the County of Ayr: with a Genealogical Account of the Families of Ayrshire, James Paterson, 1847, p 421, as a footnote in the Boyd of Pitcon:- 2. Mr Adam Boyd. In 1619, he married Bessie Boyd, dau of Boyd of Portencross, and relict of Patrick Maxwell (son of John Maxwell of Auldhouse), merchant tailor, who died in 1623. He died in May 1649. No issue appeared (Wishaw, pp 119, 115). While the note in (E) above - under Page 16 - implies that she married Adam Boyd after Patrick Maxwell of Allhouse. The second question is about "Rev John Thomas Boyd (1690-1750) Colin Brooks took me to Northampton County, PA to where the Craig or Irish Settlement was. However, I can't remember any discussion about this John Boyd being a minister but we did talk about him being a farmer. There was also a mention of a Mrs Dobbins (who was a Miss Boyd) having the farm next to John Boyd and we had a good discussion about her possible links to being a sister, but neither of us could recall where a Mrs Dobbins came into John and Adam's family or another Boyd family. (When I got home I check James Curran's article but it did not have Dobbins in it and I have not been able to find which Family Chapter she is in on my PC.) Diane Graham, in 2006, posted "John BOYD b. ca. 1690 Edinburgh, d. ca. 1750. m. 1714 in Philadelphia, Jane Craig who d. ca. 1750. They had children: John b. 1716 d. ca. 1740 Elizabeth b. 1719, d. 1803 Jane m. Samuel Brown Mary William Robert Thomas John Boyd, (son of John Boyd and Jane Craig ) m ca. 1740 to Elizabeth Young, (daughter of Sir William Young and Elizabeth) They had children: Adam b. 1746 d. 1814, m. Jeanette McFarland John William Young Boyd m. (?Davidson) Jane b. 1751 Margaret m. Robert Sharp I am sure that there is more information out there about the John Boyd/Elizabeth Young descendants. I have worked at trying to tie or disprove my James Boyd to this family. (so far I have not resolved this problem)" Unfortunately, as you can see there is not much details for these families. During my various trips to Ireland since 2006, I have been trying to the family of Sir William Young, but without any success. Thirdly, it would be very interesting to see further data and its sources for Adam Boyd (1675-1748) who is said to have married Mary Norton. Towns and any other data, including cemetery. Fourthly. You will notice that John Boyd is said to have been born in 1690 in Edinburgh while Adam Boyd was born in 1692 at Ballymoney, County Antrim. 1690 is the period of King James uprising and the Battle of the Boyne. So it may mean that their parents - said to be a Rev Adam Boyd had removed himself and family from Ireland during the fighting and had returned by 1692. (I have not seen any Rev Adam Boyd listed as a Minister in Ballymoney, however, I have not looked too hard on this as yet.) So for the above reasons, I question the first two lines of this tree. Thank you Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Rommy Lopat Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian uprising to NY/PA? Last, it there a "definitive" family tree for [Adam] Boyds? I think I've got our family's ancestry (see below) figured out, but would like to check those early families against proven research. Is the best way to join the Clan Boyd Society and upload my (10,000 name, only a few dozen Boyds) to them for checking? I'd much prefer doing the work myself if possible. Any suggestions? Thanks! Rommy Lopat >From Drummond,Lopat Family Tree on ancestry.com: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/14473285/family Adam Boyd abt 1675-1748 m Mary Norton Rev John Thomas Boyd 1690-1750 (Northampton, PA) m Jane Craig (1695-1750). (I'm uncertain abt her parents: either Wm & Margaret Lindsay Craig or Thomas & Mary Craig)? Jane Boyd 1721-1812 m Samuel Brown 1714-1798 Jane Brown 1783-1817 m Thomas Herron -1814 [All previous in PA] Sarah Jane Herron 1781-1860 m Jared Ervin 1760-1864 yes he really did live to 104! [migrated to Ohio] William Brown Ervin 1806-1895 m Elizabeth Rice 1816-1903 [migrated to Illinois] Sallie B Ervin 1846-1934 m Thomas A McIlvaine 1844-1916 Leah McIlvaine 1879-1964 m Henry Dickerman Dobyns 1876-1964 Mary Jane Dobyns m Robert Loring Drummond John Dobyns Drummond m Romalda Lopat (the Scots finally married a non-Scot!) On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Daryl Black Eagle <[email protected] > wrote: > That makes alot of sense my Tribe Pokanoket's were involved with the > Treaty of Casco Bay in 1678 and several other treaty's that went with the > Eastern Indian battles in NH & Maine the Treaty of 1725 signed in Boston > was under the authority of the Mass Bay Colony which included Maine & NH. > I > hope that helps. Mik Mac, Abenaki and Pokanoket's of King Phillips War > were > involved. > > > > > Daryl Jamieson > [email protected] > 401-413-2167 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin Brooks <[email protected]> > To: boyd <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 8:59 am > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian > uprising to NY/PA? > > > Mike, told you about this last year and you "poo poo'd the idea". Now you > believe Benjamin Franklin's grave?? Geez. Anyway, short answer is No book; > No record; No migration info. Long story- I'm writing the book; we are > digging a homesite of an original 1718 Scotch-Irish family who was burned > out in 1722 and did not return to their homesite in Maine; and Rev. Adam > Boyd is documented in Maine. Massachusets AND an acknowledged leader of > S-I > families. > Adam Boyd (not Rev. yet since he did not have a church) is part of the > Maine ("gone down eastwards") folks from 1718 who settled in region > sorrounding modern day Portland Maine. When the Indian uprising of 1722 > occurred, Boyd peitioned the Mass. government for a place to move their > families. No reply, PLUS an offer from PA to join with others made them > move enmasse to Pennsylvania (fill in the whole wife story here). So you > have a sudden influx into western Chester and Lancaster with folks fleeing > from Maine from 1722-1724. The oldest historical books mention this move. > > Colin Brooks > The 1718 Project > [email protected] > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > > In June last year, when I was in Philadelphia, PA and I walked past > > Benjamin Franklin’s grave it said that he moved from MA – I think in > > 1722 > > or 1723 – to Philadelphia after an Indian Uprising. > > > > By 1722, there was a number of Boyd families in the Boston/New England > > area. So does anyone know of any book or publications that might > > outline > > this migration and who these people were. Or was no record of this > > migration ever kept? > > > > So while we know that quite a number of Boyd families came to PA, some > > of > > those who came before 1722, might have come via New England rather than > > directly from Ireland > > > > Thank you > > > > Mike Boyd > > Historical Committee, HBS > > > > > > > > ==================== > > House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th > Anniversary > > Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to > > http://www.clanboyd.org for more information > > ==================== > > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? 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It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in > conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, > Memorial > Day Weekend 2013. > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd > Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The > Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin > McLachlan, Editor at [email protected] > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see > http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > -- Rommy Lopat weedpatchgazette.com Phone: 847-922-0437 Facsimile: 847-295-1986 ==================== House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to http://www.clanboyd.org for more information ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. 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The date is to be confirmed by the venue, however, this year's event (2013) is the first weekend in August. Please plan on attending! Write [email protected] if you would be interested in helping to plan it. ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of the Clan 2013 was a great success. It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, Memorial Day Weekend 2013. _______________________________________________________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? 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Hang on, we Scots like our Oats!! Some even have sown their wild Oats, while others drink it. Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Rommy Lopat Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:55 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian uprising to NY/PA? Second, when I googled 1718 Project, this link came up: http://scotchirishfood.blogspot.com/. Loved it! I thought I'd (re?)share a bit of her "Why did the Scots move to Maine? Because they couldn't grow oats anymore" research: http://scotchirishfood.blogspot.com/2010/05/what-does-scot-do-when-they-cant-grow.html. Great stuff.
Colon I assume these old historical books do not list very many individual families. However, do they give numbers? And would they mention towns, or regions, where most of the unnamed families might have come from. That you might recall? Mike Boyd -----Original Message----- From: Colin Brooks Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 11:58 PM To: boyd Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian uprising to NY/PA? Adam Boyd (not Rev. yet since he did not have a church) is part of the Maine ("gone down eastwards") folks from 1718 who settled in region sorrounding modern day Portland Maine. When the Indian uprising of 1722 occurred, Boyd peitioned the Mass. government for a place to move their families. No reply, PLUS an offer from PA to join with others made them move enmasse to Pennsylvania (fill in the whole wife story here). So you have a sudden influx into western Chester and Lancaster with folks fleeing from Maine from 1722-1724. The oldest historical books mention this move. Colin Brooks The 1718 Project [email protected] On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Mike. Yes, this is one of my Boyd lines, and Larry is one of my cousins. So is David Drummond Boyd. http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/b/o/y/David-Drummond-Boyd/index.html Their ancestor was James Boyd (c1758-1845) who married Nancy Agnes Wier and came from Ireland to South Carolina in 1795 with Nancy's brother Thomas Wier Jr. (1763-1851) and wife Mary Withrow Wier aboard the ship "The Irish Volunteer," usually called The Volunteer in the family. Another brother was William Boyd (born 1747) who married Margaret Lyons. Their daughter Nancy Boyd married Robert Wier (Weir), son of Thomas and Mary Withrow Wier. James and William Boyd also had a sister, Jane Boyd Hamilton, whose daughter was my ancestor Mary Hamilton (born 1774) who married James Wier, brother of Nancy Wier Boyd and Thomas Wier Jr. In 1804, William Boyd, wife Margaret Lyons Boyd and family came from Cookstown, N. Ireland with James and Mary Hamilton Wier, and James' nephew Robert Wier (including Robert's future wife Jane Boyd Wier) aboard the Lady Washington, which landed at Charleston Oct. 31, 1804, and which sank on her return voyage. My ancestor James Wier Jr. married Elizabeth Evans whose father and grandparents came on the Irish Volunteer in 1774, twenty years before the Boyds and Wiers came over on the same ship. I wonder if it really was the same ship or if it had been rebuilt. Was twenty years considered a long time for a wooden ship to be active? The Volunteer made regular runs between Belfast and Philadelphia, Belfast and Charleston in the 1770s-1800s. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 13:13:19 +1000 > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian uprising to NY/PA? > > Ray as you most likely know that this is the same family as Larry Boyd > > 5 M William BOYD Senior > Birth: 25 Sep 1766 Knocknavaddy, Parish of Desertcreat, Ele > Immigration: 31 Oct 1804 Charleston, South Carolina > Death: South Carolina > Spouse: Margaret LYONS > > Who come from Knocknavaddy half way between Cookstown and Dungannon in > County Tyrone. This family starts with a Samuel Boyd in 1718 and is > outlined in the book:- > > The Decendants and Ancetors of James Boyd and Nancy Wier, by William R. > Boyd, 1991, Quill Publications of Columbus, Georgia. [This complete family > history is on Larry Boyd's webpages back 10 genrations along with any > pictures that we had of our family members. There is also a page about my > dad's book there. > This book is now on http://www.lgboyd.com/boydbook/boydbook.htm > > Ray is this branch part of your section of Samuel's family. > > Mike Boyd > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ray > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 12:22 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian > uprising to NY/PA? > > > Martha Clow (1894-1990) was the wife of Donald Boynton Douglas, > vice-president of the Quaker Oats company, in Chicago. > http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=26045067 > She was the daughter of William Ellsworth Clow, > who was the son of Matilda Ross Clow, > the daughter of Mary S. Boyd Ross, > the daughter of Col. Joseph T. Boyd "of Mercer Co, PA.," > the son of John Boyd and Jane Holand from County Armagh, N. Ireland, > the son of William Boyd and Margaret Lyons from Dungannon, Co. Tyrone, N. > Ireland, who landed at Charleston, S.C., Oct. 31, 1804 on the ship "Lady > Washington" from Belfast, N. Ireland. > > Martha Clow's great-grandmother Mary Boyd Ross wrote many letters to her > Boyd, Hamilton and Wier cousins in the 1870s-90s attempting to document the > Boyd family history. > Her grandson Harry Beach Clow was president of the Rand McNally company. I > hope one day to find that some of the Clow family have preserved the > correspondence that Mary Boyd Ross received from other Boyd descendants. > The letters from her that survive in other collections are tantalizing and > helpful in many respects but give a fragmentary picture of this Boyd family. > > > > From: [email protected] > > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:49:14 +1000 > > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian > > uprising to NY/PA? > > > > Hang on, we Scots like our Oats!! > > > > Some even have sown their wild Oats, while others drink it. > > > > Mike Boyd > > Brisbane, Aust. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rommy Lopat > > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:55 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian > > uprising to NY/PA? > > > > Second, when I googled 1718 Project, this link came up: > > http://scotchirishfood.blogspot.com/. Loved it! I thought I'd (re?)share a > > bit of her "Why did the Scots move to Maine? Because they couldn't grow > > oats anymore" research: > > http://scotchirishfood.blogspot.com/2010/05/what-does-scot-do-when-they-cant-grow.html. > > Great stuff. > > > >
Martha Clow (1894-1990) was the wife of Donald Boynton Douglas, vice-president of the Quaker Oats company, in Chicago. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=26045067 She was the daughter of William Ellsworth Clow, who was the son of Matilda Ross Clow, the daughter of Mary S. Boyd Ross, the daughter of Col. Joseph T. Boyd "of Mercer Co, PA.," the son of John Boyd and Jane Holand from County Armagh, N. Ireland, the son of William Boyd and Margaret Lyons from Dungannon, Co. Tyrone, N. Ireland, who landed at Charleston, S.C., Oct. 31, 1804 on the ship "Lady Washington" from Belfast, N. Ireland. Martha Clow's great-grandmother Mary Boyd Ross wrote many letters to her Boyd, Hamilton and Wier cousins in the 1870s-90s attempting to document the Boyd family history. Her grandson Harry Beach Clow was president of the Rand McNally company. I hope one day to find that some of the Clow family have preserved the correspondence that Mary Boyd Ross received from other Boyd descendants. The letters from her that survive in other collections are tantalizing and helpful in many respects but give a fragmentary picture of this Boyd family. > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2014 08:49:14 +1000 > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian uprising to NY/PA? > > Hang on, we Scots like our Oats!! > > Some even have sown their wild Oats, while others drink it. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rommy Lopat > Sent: Friday, January 10, 2014 5:55 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian > uprising to NY/PA? > > Second, when I googled 1718 Project, this link came up: > http://scotchirishfood.blogspot.com/. Loved it! I thought I'd (re?)share a > bit of her "Why did the Scots move to Maine? Because they couldn't grow > oats anymore" research: > http://scotchirishfood.blogspot.com/2010/05/what-does-scot-do-when-they-cant-grow.html. > Great stuff. >
Colin, I poked around the 1718 Project website but didn't find an explanation for your intriguing comment (above): "we are digging a homesite of an original 1718 S-I family". Could you give us a link to more information about what you are doing? Second, when I googled 1718 Project, this link came up: http://scotchirishfood.blogspot.com/. Loved it! I thought I'd (re?)share a bit of her "Why did the Scots move to Maine? Because they couldn't grow oats anymore" research: http://scotchirishfood.blogspot.com/2010/05/what-does-scot-do-when-they-cant-grow.html. Great stuff. Last, it there a "definitive" family tree for [Adam] Boyds? I think I've got our family's ancestry (see below) figured out, but would like to check those early families against proven research. Is the best way to join the Clan Boyd Society and upload my (10,000 name, only a few dozen Boyds) to them for checking? I'd much prefer doing the work myself if possible. Any suggestions? Thanks! Rommy Lopat >From Drummond,Lopat Family Tree on ancestry.com: http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/14473285/family Adam Boyd abt 1675-1748 m Mary Norton Rev John Thomas Boyd 1690-1750 (Northampton, PA) m Jane Craig (1695-1750). (I'm uncertain abt her parents: either Wm & Margaret Lindsay Craig or Thomas & Mary Craig)? Jane Boyd 1721-1812 m Samuel Brown 1714-1798 Jane Brown 1783-1817 m Thomas Herron -1814 [All previous in PA] Sarah Jane Herron 1781-1860 m Jared Ervin 1760-1864 yes he really did live to 104! [migrated to Ohio] William Brown Ervin 1806-1895 m Elizabeth Rice 1816-1903 [migrated to Illinois] Sallie B Ervin 1846-1934 m Thomas A McIlvaine 1844-1916 Leah McIlvaine 1879-1964 m Henry Dickerman Dobyns 1876-1964 Mary Jane Dobyns m Robert Loring Drummond John Dobyns Drummond m Romalda Lopat (the Scots finally married a non-Scot!) On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Daryl Black Eagle <[email protected] > wrote: > That makes alot of sense my Tribe Pokanoket's were involved with the > Treaty of Casco Bay in 1678 and several other treaty's that went with the > Eastern Indian battles in NH & Maine the Treaty of 1725 signed in Boston > was under the authority of the Mass Bay Colony which included Maine & NH. I > hope that helps. Mik Mac, Abenaki and Pokanoket's of King Phillips War were > involved. > > > > > Daryl Jamieson > [email protected] > 401-413-2167 > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Colin Brooks <[email protected]> > To: boyd <[email protected]> > Sent: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 8:59 am > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian > uprising to NY/PA? > > > Mike, told you about this last year and you "poo poo'd the idea". Now you > believe Benjamin Franklin's grave?? Geez. Anyway, short answer is No book; > No record; No migration info. Long story- I'm writing the book; we are > digging a homesite of an original 1718 Scotch-Irish family who was burned > out in 1722 and did not return to their homesite in Maine; and Rev. Adam > Boyd is documented in Maine. Massachusets AND an acknowledged leader of S-I > families. > Adam Boyd (not Rev. yet since he did not have a church) is part of the > Maine ("gone down eastwards") folks from 1718 who settled in region > sorrounding modern day Portland Maine. When the Indian uprising of 1722 > occurred, Boyd peitioned the Mass. government for a place to move their > families. No reply, PLUS an offer from PA to join with others made them > move enmasse to Pennsylvania (fill in the whole wife story here). So you > have a sudden influx into western Chester and Lancaster with folks fleeing > from Maine from 1722-1724. The oldest historical books mention this move. > > Colin Brooks > The 1718 Project > [email protected] > > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > > > In June last year, when I was in Philadelphia, PA and I walked past > > Benjamin Franklin’s grave it said that he moved from MA – I think in 1722 > > or 1723 – to Philadelphia after an Indian Uprising. > > > > By 1722, there was a number of Boyd families in the Boston/New England > > area. So does anyone know of any book or publications that might outline > > this migration and who these people were. Or was no record of this > > migration ever kept? > > > > So while we know that quite a number of Boyd families came to PA, some of > > those who came before 1722, might have come via New England rather than > > directly from Ireland > > > > Thank you > > > > Mike Boyd > > Historical Committee, HBS > > > > > > > > ==================== > > House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th > Anniversary > > Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to > > http://www.clanboyd.org for more information > > ==================== > > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? 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That makes alot of sense my Tribe Pokanoket's were involved with the Treaty of Casco Bay in 1678 and several other treaty's that went with the Eastern Indian battles in NH & Maine the Treaty of 1725 signed in Boston was under the authority of the Mass Bay Colony which included Maine & NH. I hope that helps. Mik Mac, Abenaki and Pokanoket's of King Phillips War were involved. Daryl Jamieson [email protected] 401-413-2167 -----Original Message----- From: Colin Brooks <[email protected]> To: boyd <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Jan 9, 2014 8:59 am Subject: Re: [BOYD] Boyd migration from "New England" after 1722 Indian uprising to NY/PA? Mike, told you about this last year and you "poo poo'd the idea". Now you believe Benjamin Franklin's grave?? Geez. Anyway, short answer is No book; No record; No migration info. Long story- I'm writing the book; we are digging a homesite of an original 1718 Scotch-Irish family who was burned out in 1722 and did not return to their homesite in Maine; and Rev. Adam Boyd is documented in Maine. Massachusets AND an acknowledged leader of S-I families. Adam Boyd (not Rev. yet since he did not have a church) is part of the Maine ("gone down eastwards") folks from 1718 who settled in region sorrounding modern day Portland Maine. When the Indian uprising of 1722 occurred, Boyd peitioned the Mass. government for a place to move their families. No reply, PLUS an offer from PA to join with others made them move enmasse to Pennsylvania (fill in the whole wife story here). So you have a sudden influx into western Chester and Lancaster with folks fleeing from Maine from 1722-1724. The oldest historical books mention this move. Colin Brooks The 1718 Project [email protected] On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > In June last year, when I was in Philadelphia, PA and I walked past > Benjamin Franklin’s grave it said that he moved from MA – I think in 1722 > or 1723 – to Philadelphia after an Indian Uprising. > > By 1722, there was a number of Boyd families in the Boston/New England > area. So does anyone know of any book or publications that might outline > this migration and who these people were. Or was no record of this > migration ever kept? > > So while we know that quite a number of Boyd families came to PA, some of > those who came before 1722, might have come via New England rather than > directly from Ireland > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > > > ==================== > House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary > Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. 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It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in > conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, Memorial > Day Weekend 2013. > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd > Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The > Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin > McLachlan, Editor at [email protected] > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see > http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message ==================== House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to http://www.clanboyd.org for more information ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at [email protected] ==================== Remember to trim your message before hitting send! 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In June last year, when I was in Philadelphia, PA and I walked past Benjamin Franklin’s grave it said that he moved from MA – I think in 1722 or 1723 – to Philadelphia after an Indian Uprising. By 1722, there was a number of Boyd families in the Boston/New England area. So does anyone know of any book or publications that might outline this migration and who these people were. Or was no record of this migration ever kept? So while we know that quite a number of Boyd families came to PA, some of those who came before 1722, might have come via New England rather than directly from Ireland Thank you Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS
Harriet When and where in County Londonderry can you find your John Boyd. I know that a Boyd family came from "Argyllshire" in 1612 to Londonderry City, with the Smith and Jamison families. However, I do not know if they came from the Boyds opposite Fort William or were some other Boyds who might have come from Ayrshire to southern part of Arygllshire - such as Kintyre or some of the island near by. Mike Boyd Historical Committee, HBS -----Original Message----- From: Harriet E. Cady Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 1:08 AM To: [email protected] ; [email protected] ; Tony Worsley ; Demi Morgan Subject: Re: [BOYD] [IRL-ANTRIM] Boyd Persons at the "Siege of Derry" My John Boyd came from Londonderry, Ireland so maybe from that BOYD family lineage. Harriet On Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:27 AM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: That must be the captain my grandfather spoke of. IN EAST GREENWICH RI USA. ANDREW BOYD WAS LISTED BORN IN ANTRIM IRELAND AT BALLYMONEY 1731 FATHER WAS JOHN GRANDFATHER WILLIAM BOYD. DARYL JAMIESON
In a message dated 1/9/2014 7:27:28 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I'm pretty sure no one has made that definitive connection for John Boyd of Shelbourne Falls, Massachusetts. Colin, I have copies of the death records for both John Boyd, Sr. and his wife Margaret Long, both of whom were recorded as dying in Shelburne Falls. Patricia
Daryl This Captain James Boyd was a the time of the Siege of Londonderry City in 1689. Some 40 years before your family. He was also killed DURING THE SIEGE, SO IF HE HAD FAMILY THEY HAD TO BE BORN BEFORE THEN. We are trying to find a Captain James Boyd of Ireland, who is said to be the father of a James Boyd of Berwick, Maine; a William Boyd who landed in Rhode Island rather than wait to get off at Boston, MA and the family of a John Boyd Shelburne Falls, Franklin Co., MA. All arrived on a unknown ship in about 1720 from Ireland. This Captain killed in Londonderry SEEMS TO BE A POSSIBLE LINK "BUT" we need more details about his family and where he came from in Ireland. The quotation said he was "Killed in his house on Shipquay St". However this might have been "his" or the "family's" City House and they had an Estate somewhere else in Ireland. Boyd Grey. Do you know if there are any "records" of who owned what houses within Londonderry City in 1689? That might provide some guide as to which family this Captain James Boyd belonged to. Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOYD] [IRL-ANTRIM] Boyd Persons at the "Siege of Derry" That must be the captain my grandfather spoke of. IN EAST GREENWICH RI USA. ANDREW BOYD WAS LISTED BORN IN ANTRIM IRELAND AT BALLYMONEY 1731 FATHER WAS JOHN GRANDFATHER WILLIAM BOYD. DARYL JAMIESON ---------- Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using AOL Mail ------Original Message------ From: Mike Boyd <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>,<[email protected]> Date: Wednesday, January 8, 2014 8:24:27 PM GMT+1000 Subject: Re: [BOYD] [IRL-ANTRIM] Boyd Persons at the "Siege of Derry" Thank you Dick. I suspected that these 6 people MIGHT HAVE BEEN part of the Boyd of Ballymacool, Letterkenny, County Donegal, but when I searched that Family Chapter, I could not find any possible links. These Boyd fled Letterkenny before the Siege and put their records in the Church at Raphoe and then went to Londonderry City. King James's men burnt the Raphoe Church and these Boyd's records. By 1689, there were Boyd families in Londonderry City and quite a number of families in an around Coleraine from which these 6 might stem from. >From where was Colonel Michelburn's Regiment recruited? That may give a guide as to where these 6 Boyd's came from. There were three brothers, James Boyd, bc 1700, William Boyd and John Boyd (younger brothers) who came to New England in about 1720. In two books on brothers James Boyd and John Boyd, they claim that their father was a Captain James Boyd. While below, we have a Captain James Boyd who was killed in Londonderry City in 5 July 1689. So could HE BE THE FATHER OF THESE THREE SONS? If that was the case they would be a lot older than estimated in these books. Or are we looking for a second Captain James Boyd? Thank you Mike Boyd Brisbane, Aust. -----Original Message----- From: Dick Stewart Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 3:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-ANTRIM] Boyd Persons at the "Siege of Derry" Mike; In the 1932 publication by William R. Young, titled "Fighters of Derry, 1688-16691." Eyre and Spottswood, London. Film #1363998. The author's TEXT, p. 158 lists the following Boid and Boyd persons: 1. Capt. Francis Boyd of Michelburn's Regiment. 2. Capt. James Boyd, defender. A bomb fell on his house (probably the families residence for many generations in Shipquay St.) on the night of 5th June "killing him .. but several officers, who were then at dinner, escaped the danger." Boyds who signed the 1691 Commission: 3. Jean Boid 4. Isabel Boid 5. Robert Boyd 6. Helen Boid "The Boyd Family settled in the City of Derry and County Donegal in the 17th Century. They are descended from the Ancient Scottish family of which the Earl of Killmarnock was the Head." Dick Stewart Carefree, AZ ==================== House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to http://www.clanboyd.org for more information ==================== Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. Write me off list at [email protected] ==================== Remember to trim your message before hitting send! Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. ==================== This list is set for replies to go to the list address [email protected] not just the author of the post. ==================== Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe mid-discussion? 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It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, Memorial Day Weekend 2013. _______________________________________________________________________________ Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd Society! http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 ______________________________________ House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The Society would not be what it is without you! ______________________________________ Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? 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Mike, told you about this last year and you "poo poo'd the idea". Now you believe Benjamin Franklin's grave?? Geez. Anyway, short answer is No book; No record; No migration info. Long story- I'm writing the book; we are digging a homesite of an original 1718 Scotch-Irish family who was burned out in 1722 and did not return to their homesite in Maine; and Rev. Adam Boyd is documented in Maine. Massachusets AND an acknowledged leader of S-I families. Adam Boyd (not Rev. yet since he did not have a church) is part of the Maine ("gone down eastwards") folks from 1718 who settled in region sorrounding modern day Portland Maine. When the Indian uprising of 1722 occurred, Boyd peitioned the Mass. government for a place to move their families. No reply, PLUS an offer from PA to join with others made them move enmasse to Pennsylvania (fill in the whole wife story here). So you have a sudden influx into western Chester and Lancaster with folks fleeing from Maine from 1722-1724. The oldest historical books mention this move. Colin Brooks The 1718 Project [email protected] On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > In June last year, when I was in Philadelphia, PA and I walked past > Benjamin Franklin’s grave it said that he moved from MA – I think in 1722 > or 1723 – to Philadelphia after an Indian Uprising. > > By 1722, there was a number of Boyd families in the Boston/New England > area. So does anyone know of any book or publications that might outline > this migration and who these people were. Or was no record of this > migration ever kept? > > So while we know that quite a number of Boyd families came to PA, some of > those who came before 1722, might have come via New England rather than > directly from Ireland > > Thank you > > Mike Boyd > Historical Committee, HBS > > > > ==================== > House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary > Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to > http://www.clanboyd.org for more information > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to > keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. > Write me off list at [email protected] > ==================== > > Remember to trim your message before hitting send! > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > > ==================== > This list is set for replies to go to the list address [email protected] just the author of the post. > ==================== > > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe > mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk > for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > > _________________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2014 will be held in conjunction with the St. Andrews Society of > Detroit's Highland Games at Livonia, Michigan, USA. The date is to be > confirmed by the venue, however, this year's event (2013) is the first > weekend in August. Please plan on attending! > > Write [email protected] if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2013 was a great success. It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in > conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, Memorial > Day Weekend 2013. > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd > Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The > Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin > McLachlan, Editor at [email protected] > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see > http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message
While the intent of Mike's message is valid and clear, I can't seem to figure out what we are to "find" about this family. It has been researched adnauseum. The living descendant and Mike disagree on the possible origins, but the names of "who" are pretty clear. Anyway, I emailed Patricia and asked this question- "what do you want us to find?". I hope she joins the Boyd list. Everyone needs to list what you have and WHERE you found it. Then you can ask us to do lookups that are valid. I'd love to see her source for the origins of the above family. I'm pretty sure no one has made that definitive connection for John Boyd of Shelbourne Falls, Massachusetts. On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Mike Boyd <[email protected]> wrote: > Members > In 2012, when Barry took me to the Dallas Public Library they proudly told > me there were the 8th largest genealogical Library in the USA (I was very > disappointed, as I had been told that everything in the Great State of > Texas > was larger than any where else in the USA.) > > Barry, it looks like you will not be dating on Thursday nights for a long > while. > > Mike Boyd > Brisbane, Aust. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Barry Boyd > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 12:23 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [BOYD] Helping other Boyds with research > > Mike and cousins, > On this subject I would like to make myself available to look-up stuff > for people here in the Dallas Library. I work, so I can do look-ups on > Thursday nights when they are open late. Librarians are priceless, and > can greatly assist us, specially if you let them know in advance what > you are searching for, they can pull it for us. > > Barry in Dallas > > Mike Boyd wrote: > > While Patricia has sent this to me privately, I am replying to the whole > > list, as it brings up the specific issue of “ALL” of us can help someone > > else with information from their local library. > > > > > > > ==================== > House of Boyd will be present in the Clan Village at the 700th Anniversary > Celebration of the Battle of Bannockburn, June 2014. Look to > http://www.clanboyd.org for more information > ==================== > Need to contact the Admin? Want to discuss an Admin Note? Remember -- to > keep the flow of the list, Admin notes are not to be replied to on list. > Write me off list at [email protected] > ==================== > > Remember to trim your message before hitting send! > Check your email client's help file if directions are needed. > > ==================== > This list is set for replies to go to the list address [email protected] just the author of the post. > ==================== > > Can't recall what the beginning of a thread was? Subscribe > mid-discussion? Visit the PUBLICLY VIEWABLE archives: > http://archiver.rootsweb.com/th/index?list=boyd > > ==================== > Got an issue that is beyond the purview of this list? Write the Help Desk > for assistance http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/ > Honor your fellow subscribers -- follow the Golden Rule! > > _________________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2014 will be held in conjunction with the St. Andrews Society of > Detroit's Highland Games at Livonia, Michigan, USA. The date is to be > confirmed by the venue, however, this year's event (2013) is the first > weekend in August. Please plan on attending! > > Write [email protected] if you would be interested in helping to plan it. > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society's (HBS) Annual General Meeting (AGM) & Gathering of > the Clan 2013 was a great success. It was held in Greenville, SC, USA in > conjunction with the Greenville Scottish Games, Saturday May 25th, Memorial > Day Weekend 2013. > > _______________________________________________________________________________ > Support the Fellowship Activities of the Clan. Join the House of Boyd > Society! > http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/BOYD/2008-06/1212428046 > ______________________________________ > House of Boyd Society sends HUGE thank you to all of our volunteers. The > Society would not be what it is without you! > ______________________________________ > > Want to contribute an article or query to the Dean Road? Contact Kevin > McLachlan, Editor at [email protected] > > ==================== > Visit the House of Boyd Society Website http://www.clanboyd.org > ==================== > For Officers and other Contacts, see > http://www.clanboyd.org/officers.shtml > > **************************** > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >