I have always been told I was descended from James Bowling, son of John Bolling and Elizabeth Blair. In fact, we have a book that lists him in it as a son of theirs. Now, for some reason, I have gotten mail from several sources saying my James is NOT a son of John and Elizabeth, but of Benjamin and even that Benjamin is not a son of John either but of another Benjamin Bolling. Where did this new "theory" come from and why, after all these years have they decided that James was not John's son? Please help me to understand this? Thanks, Kay-

Hi, Shelby, Thanks for your Red, White and Blue comment on BOLLINGS. On Prodigy 5-6 years ago, there was a lively conversation going as we researched for the various BOLLING lines, and the various colors were discussed and commented upon.... I am the one who was first "green with envy - because I could not find which BOLLING line I belonged to!" We think now that it is an earlier relative of Robert BOLLING, who went to Jamestown in 1610, later to Maryland, and back to VA about 1700. His name was Capt Thomas BOWLING, and he brought with him his wife, Mary BOWLING, and her parents, William and Mary BOWLING. They left Jamestown soon after arrival because of famine and went to Maryland. If there is anyone out there who has more information on the line of Capt Thomas BOWLING, I would appreciate very much hearing from them. I researched the Pocahontas lines for years because in our family there was the tradition that we descended from her line. I have never found any connection, and since I am back to my ancestor who is a contemporary of the children of Robert and wife, Elizabeth Blair, I gave up on that theory long ago, and started looking for other possible lines of research. No matter how you look at it, or which line you belong to, it is a very interesting family to research! :) We were all very serious about our research into this line, but we could still laugh at our failure to find the proper niche for our ancestors... I'm still looking and working... and I think that I am not far from tying into the proper line after 25 years of searching. Thanks, Alice in Houston Alice BUSSEY Broaddus ============================================================= ABB5985@AOL.com a.broaddus@Juno.com a.broaddus@genie.com MTBV40A@prodigy.com ANDERSON-*-ASKINS-*-BELL-*-BLEDSOE-*-BOLLING-*-BONHAM-*-BROADDUS BURGAMY-*-BUSSEY-*-CAVANAGH-*-CHRISTIAN-*-DOTY-*-DUNCAN DUSHAROONE-*-FULLER-*-GORDON-*-GORDY-*-GWYNNE-*-HARRY-*-HEARD HAYS/HAYES-*-HOWARD-*-HUBBARD-*-HUME-*-JAMES-*-KAVANAGH LANDRUM-*-LATHROP-*-LEMASTER-*-LOVE-*-MILLER-*-MURPHY-*-OLDHAM PARKER-*-PATTILLO-*-PATTON-*-PENNINGTON-*- PRITCHETT-*-ROYAL SCOTT-*-SMITH -*-WALTERS-*-WARREN-*-WILLIAMS =================== (MA,NJ,DE,MD,VA,KY,NC,SC,GA,TX )

Hi Shelby and all Bolling researchers, Have your read up on the crazy Judge Robertson? All the facts, known of the Bolling genealogy, is under serious pressure for change; almost all of what is known come from the book, "Pocahontas' Descendants". Written by the crazy Judge and his brother. All evidence presented by them was found by them. None of it can be supported. Check Judge Zelma Price's writting on the matter, and look at Todd Bolling book, which was an effort to find them all up. In short. The Bolling genealogy has never been written complete with all evidence. Bible, Tombstone, Deeds, Wills. Help us to get it right. Will you? The only absolute fact is this; a Bolling family using the names Powhatan, Rolfe, Meatoaka, used those names before the Ugly bollings did in the early 1700s. That's a fact. We have found these people up, and they check out. Ken At 03:32 AM 11/20/97 -0800, you wrote: >BOWLING-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 16 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Red, White, and Blue Bollings [Shelby Puckett <spuckett@bgsm.edu>] > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 10:11:54 -0500 >From: Shelby Puckett <spuckett@bgsm.edu> >To: BOWLING-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19971119101154.007b5be0@bgsm.edu> >Subject: Red, White, and Blue Bollings >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > "Red" Bollings are descendants of Robert Bolling and Jane Rolfe, >granddaughter of Pocahontas. They are called red because of their Native >American blood. > The "White" Bollings are descendants of Robert Bolling and his second >wife, Anne Stith. Since they have no Native blood, they are "White" by >default. > The "Blue" Bollings are not descendants of Robert Bolling at all. They >seem to have "come out of the blue." > I have even seen lighthearted references to "Purple" and "Pink" Bollings, >reflecting mixed lineages. The best one, however, is "Green". "Green" >Bollings have no idea where their line came from and are green with envy! > :) >

Hi fellow Baker and/or Bolin Researchers, I apologize for any duplications, I am posting this to several lists. Just wanted to let you know that I have updated my web pages containing online resources for Baker's and Bolin's. Stop by and check them out. View Baker Records - Marriage; Land, Tax/Rent; etc... at: http://www,geocities.com/Hearland/Meadows/8056/bakermarr.html View Baker Pension Records at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/8056/bakerpens.html View Bolin (any var) Records - Marriage, Pension; Census; etc... at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/8056/bollingmarr.html View Bolin (any var) Records - Land; Tax/Rent; Tithe at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Meadows/8056/bollingrecs.html I will be updating these on a daily basis, so bookmark the pages, and visit often. Thanks, Leslie Gunter Baker_Bolin-L List Administrator

"Red" Bollings are descendants of Robert Bolling and Jane Rolfe, granddaughter of Pocahontas. They are called red because of their Native American blood. The "White" Bollings are descendants of Robert Bolling and his second wife, Anne Stith. Since they have no Native blood, they are "White" by default. The "Blue" Bollings are not descendants of Robert Bolling at all. They seem to have "come out of the blue." I have even seen lighthearted references to "Purple" and "Pink" Bollings, reflecting mixed lineages. The best one, however, is "Green". "Green" Bollings have no idea where their line came from and are green with envy! :)

I posted this last week and I am still wondering what the Blue Bollings, Red Bollings and , White Bollings are? > > I am new to this list and would like to know about the "Blue" Bollings, > "red" Bollings and the "white" Bollings. What does this mean? > I have a David D Boling/Bowlen b. early 1820's married Louisa JB > ANDERSON born 1827. They were married abt. 1843. They had a daughter > Mary E BOLING born Jun 1849. Mary E BOLING married Levi Hawkins KINDER. > Levi was born in Smyth Co. Va. > Any information would be appreciated. One more thing are there any > Boling websites? > Thanks, > Laurie

Thought I'd pass this along. Cynthia

Hello! I received this warning message from my son who is the comptroller for Cabot Oil in Houston. It speaks for itself. Later...Fred

Co. G. 35th Tenn. Reg. from Sept 1861 to June 1864 (Formerly the 5th Tenn. : : Regt.) Nathan Bowlen Discharged 1861

Hi there! Have just started this treasure hunt and am already confused! There are so many spellings for BOWLIN and nothing I have seen so far is what I'm looking for. My BOWLIN'S were from Jellico, Campbell Co., TN, altho my father was born just across the state line in Williamsburg, Whitley Co., KY in Sept. 1907. I believe that my Gfathers name was Lee. He had at least 4 sons, Clarence (my father), Clester, Clive, and James and 2 daughters Mary and Anna. Believe that my Gfather died about 1965 and his wife (no known name) about 4 years later. Beyond that I know absolutely nothing. KY archives advise they have no birth records for Whitley Co. for the year 1907 so I hit a stone wall there. Also have not fouund them in any census. If anyone out there has any information regarding this BOWLIN branch, I would be most appreciative of your help. My EMail code is PLUMLCO@aol.com. Many thanks, COLLEEN BOWLIN PLUMLEY

Does anyone have any scrap of information concerning a Bowling/Clack marriage or association ca 1790? Jane Bowling specifically, but other information also appreciated. Thank you Edna

Chatham County Will Book E Part 2 List: Christopher Boling of Moore Co., NC, 1873 E-122 Taply Boling, 1877. E-146 Kaye

Judith, There is a lady here in Hot Springs Village, Arkansas that is a descendant of John Jones. Her name is Bobbie Moffat. Her address is 50 Empinado Way, Hot Springs Village, AR 71909. Her email address is bobbiem@cswnet.com. I think that her line comes from Jane Bolling and Richard Randolph. Elizabeth Frances Jones, a daughter of John Jones, married Joel Halbert. This is all that I know about their line; however, Bobbie is trying to make the Jones connection. I am sending her a cc of this message, and I have called her to alert her to your inquirey. I hope you both can make some connections in your line. Later...Fred judith murphy wrote: > > I have several questions here for everyone: > > 1) A lady I work with said that she was descendant of Pocahontas via the > Bollings and mentioned that two Claypool sisters (twins) were the > descendants and her father was descendant from a sibling of theirs. > > Has anyone seen the names Claypool or Ferguson in any of the lines? > > 2) I am also interested in the Jones descendants and persons who were Jones > who married into the Boling family or any of the descendants (no matter what > their surname was before). What I would like is anyone having these Jones > in their notes -- please give me info on the John Jones'. An uncle of > Thomas Bolin, b 1766 NC was John Jones -- since I see there were several in > Orange/Caswell/Rockingham Cos as well as across the border in NC and in IN > where he later moved I am trying to find exactly who this uncle was and > whether he was a 1st uncle or gr-uncle or what as well as HOW he was Thomas' > uncle -- was Thomas' mother a Joones who married a Bolin or perhaps Thomas' > father's sister married John Jones, etc. > > 3) A mention of the Bible that John Jones owned was in Rev War pension > application -- does anyone have this Bible or know of its whereabouts? > > 4) I find a Randolph who married a John Jones -- can anyone tell me more > about this Jones family -- I know they are in the Bolin descendants but I > don't have any of the children's names or who their children married. > > Thanks, > Judy M.

Below is all we know about my wife's paternal side, hope someone can help Bryce Hager Family Group Record ========================================================================================== Husband: Percy Leroy BOWLING ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Birth: Chr: Death: Burial: Marriage: ========================================================================================== Wife: Christine(bama) SEYMORE ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Birth: Death: Burial: ========================================================================================== Children ========================================================================================== 1 M Flecther Leroy BOWLING Birth: 22 Aug 1904 St Stephens Alabama Death: 28 Oct 1962 Mobile, Alabama Burial: 1 Nov 1962 Mobile, Alabama Memorial Gardens Spouse: Mary Joseph ROBERTS (m 28 May 1928) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2 M Dan BOWLING Birth: Chr: Death: Burial: Marriage: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 3 M Auther Shirley(con) BOWLING Birth: Chr: Death: 7 Jan 1967 Mobile, Alabama Death: 7 Jan 1967 Mobile, Alabama Burial: Marriage: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 4 F Louella(Muff) BOWLING Birth: Chr: Death: Burial: Marriage: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 5 F Clara B (Doll Dee) BOWLING Birth: Chr: Death: Burial: Marriage: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 6 F Christine B (tootie) BOWLING Birth: Chr: Death: Burial: Marriage: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 7 F Jeanne B BOWLING Birth: Chr: Death: Burial: Marriage: ========================================================================================== Prepared 15 Nov 1997 by: Bryce L Hager 8689 Wolf Bay Ln Foley,Al 36535 334-955-1319 ==========================================================================================

Benjamin Bolling had a son Delaney, according to the Price papers. This would be the earliest use of the name which I know of, and would suggest the name came from the Phelps family of VA. Most folks don't know that NC opened it's doors a generation earlier than many places, and thus, many earlier settlers came into NC, then left for KY, TN, OH, IN, GA, AL, etc...in the next generation or two. Ken

I have several questions here for everyone: 1) A lady I work with said that she was descendant of Pocahontas via the Bollings and mentioned that two Claypool sisters (twins) were the descendants and her father was descendant from a sibling of theirs. Has anyone seen the names Claypool or Ferguson in any of the lines? 2) I am also interested in the Jones descendants and persons who were Jones who married into the Boling family or any of the descendants (no matter what their surname was before). What I would like is anyone having these Jones in their notes -- please give me info on the John Jones'. An uncle of Thomas Bolin, b 1766 NC was John Jones -- since I see there were several in Orange/Caswell/Rockingham Cos as well as across the border in NC and in IN where he later moved I am trying to find exactly who this uncle was and whether he was a 1st uncle or gr-uncle or what as well as HOW he was Thomas' uncle -- was Thomas' mother a Joones who married a Bolin or perhaps Thomas' father's sister married John Jones, etc. 3) A mention of the Bible that John Jones owned was in Rev War pension application -- does anyone have this Bible or know of its whereabouts? 4) I find a Randolph who married a John Jones -- can anyone tell me more about this Jones family -- I know they are in the Bolin descendants but I don't have any of the children's names or who their children married. Thanks, Judy M.

Just glancing I see three: David b 1799 s/o John and Mary (Tarplay) David, s/o Isaac & Mary (Coltrane) David, s/o Eli & Nancy (Bowling) Judy M. > >Content-Type: text/plain > >BOWLING-D Digest Volume 97 : Issue 11 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Bollen IL, KY, VA [sandya@directcon.net (Sandy August] > #2 Pocahontas Web Site [Janette Burke <jfburke@bellatlanti] > #3 James Paul Bowlin [IHoudini@aol.com] > #4 Re: BOWLING/BOLING [Kay Adams <adamskay@hotmail.com>] > #5 Fwd: David Bowling [MAWJAW@aol.com] > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 16:49:49 -0800 (PST) >From: sandya@directcon.net (Sandy Augusta) >To: BOWLING-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <199711130049.QAA24631@zeus.directcon.net> >Subject: Bollen IL, KY, VA >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >I would love to hear from someone out there who has heard of these Bollens. >Thanks so much for the help. > >My 4ggrandfather, John CARUTHERS Jr. married Rachel BOLLEN, 1806 in St. >Clair County, Illinois Territory. Charlotte BOLLEN married James MCDANEIL >the same place and same year. I can find no other reference to Bollen (any >spelling) at that time and place. The CARUTHER'S family was in Christian >Co. Kentucky in 1800 and in the Christian Co. KY deed book, Sept 1811 is >the following information: James MCDANIEL and wife Charlotte, of Christian >Co. Ky, power of Attorney to James D. Davis of Christian re estate land as >heir to John BOLIN deceased who last lived in the state of Virginia, county >of Stafford. Charlotte dau of John BOLIN. (In registration of deed, she is >called Magret.) > >Sandy >Sandy Wilson Augusta >sandya@directcon.net > >______________________________ >X-Message: #2 >Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 21:16:34 -0500 (EST) >From: Janette Burke <jfburke@bellatlantic.net> >To: BOWLING-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <3.0.16.19971112223021.0b474c9c@postoffice2.bellatlantic.net> >Subject: Pocahontas Web Site >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >The following is a web address which has a very extensive listing of the >descendants of Pocahontas. He has also some very interesting articles as >well as several links to other interesting spots. > >http://members.tripod.com/~AlanCheshire/index.html > >The site is by Alan Rickards; Holmes Chapel, Cheshire, England and is titled: >Alan's Genealogy and Cheshire, England Page > >After you visit, let me know what you think of his posted lineage. I'm >still trying to sort my Boling/Bolling/Bowlings out!! >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >Janette Dees Burke <jfburke@bellatlantic.net> > 'A Kentucky Colonel in Pittsburgh, PA' >...the sun shines bright on my old Kentucky Home >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >______________________________James Paul Bowlin, b. March 11, 1860 [?Clay Co., KY], died February 11, 1919, >according to the information on his tombstone. HOWEVER, after waiting more >than 3 weeks for his death certificate, I received notice from Vital >Statistics that after searching death records for 1911-1993, no death >certificate was found. This man is surrounded with mystery concerning his >death how, when & where. He was a foreman at WHITEHALL, home of >abolitionist and Russian Ambassador, Cassius Marcellus Clay, in Madison Co., >KY during latter part of 1800's. The last of his five children was born >about 1894, although he and his wife were certainly young enough to have had >others. His wife, Almeda HILL Bowlin, lived until 1936 moving between the >homes of her children. Many of the grandchildren, 5 of them still living, >were between ages 9 and 25 at the time of Almeda's death and heard many >stories about their life at Whitehall...but not of a prominent event in late >1890's involving "the Bowling Brothers, foremen for Clay..." During a >confrontation with a would-be assasin sent by KKK to kill Cassius Clay, one >of the brothers was killed. Clay sent the other to the home of the assasin >to retaliate. That brother was then arrested, tried and convicted of murder. > The brothers were not referred to by given names, so it has been speculation >as to which was James and which was his brother, presumably Eli. NONE of the >grandchildren remember James, even though one granddaughter was 8 years old >in 1919, the year James supposedly died. In fact, Almeda was already living >with her children by that time. This leads to the suspicion that James was >the brother sent to prison. Bottom line-------------HELP!! Any leads to the >family of news of this event would be helpful and most appreciated. >Thanks------Sandi Fraley Stacy > >______________________________ >X-Message: #4 >Date: Thu, 13 Nov 1997 10:41:32 -0500 >From: Kay Adams <adamskay@hotmail.com> >To: BOWLING-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <346B1FAC.3309@hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: BOWLING/BOLING >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hello, below is a copy of my Bowling line most of which were in the CLAY >CO KY AREA. >I am the great grandchild of MAHALA BOWLING m SIMON PETER PFAFF >I would like to hear from any of my family out there... >ALso I would be glad to try and help any of you CLAY CO BOWLINGS. >KAY ADAMS >MIDDLSEBORO,KY > > >Descendants of James Bolling Sr > > 1 James Bolling Sr 1756 - b: January 09, 1756 in VA >. +Mary Polly Blevins >........ 2 Mary Molly Bowling 1775 - b: 1775 >........ 2 Katherine Bowling 1777 - b: May 20, 1777 >........ 2 Levi Bowling 1780 - b: 1780 >........ 2 Nancy Bowling 1783 - b: 1783 >........ 2 Elijan Bad Eli Bowling 1785 - b: 1785 >........ 2 WIlliam Bowling 1786 - b: 1786 >........ 2 Christopher Bowling 1787 - b: 1787 >........ 2 James Bowling 1789 - Abt 1870 b: 1789 in Hawkins Co TN d: >Abt 1870 in Clay Co, Ky >............ +Kizze Lockard 1790-1800 - Abt 1873 b: 1790-1800 in NC m: >May 25, 1808 in Clay Co, Ky d: Abt 1873 >................... 3 ? Bowling >................... 3 Thomas J Bowling >................... 3 ?? Bowling 120-1810 - b: 120-1810 >................... 3 ? Bowling 1804-1810 - b: 1804-1810 >................... 3 Pegga Bowling 1810-1820 - b: 1810-1820 >................... 3 John L Bowling 1816 - 1870-1880 b: 1816 in KY >d: 1870-1880 in Clay Co, Ky >....................... +Arrah Asher 1827 - 1868 b: 1827 in KY m: >February 04, 1847 in Clay Co, Ky d: 1868 in Clay Co, Ky >.............................. 4 Lutecia Bowling 1849 - b: 1849 >.............................. 4 Thomas J Bowling 1850 - b: 1850 >.............................. 4 Christopher Bowling 1855 - b: 1855 >.............................. 4 Lucinda Bowling 1856 - b: 1856 >.............................. 4 Mary Jane Bowling 1859 - b: 1859 >.............................. 4 William Bowling 1864 - b: April 07, >1864 >.............................. 4 Mahala Bowling 1868 - b: 1868 >.................................. +Simon Peter Pfaff >................... 3 Lucinda Bowling Abt 1819 - b: Abt 1819 >................... 3 Christopher Bowling 1820 - b: 1820 >................... 3 ? Bowling 1825-1830 - b: 1825-1830 >........ 2 John Bowling 1790 - b: 1790 >........ 2 Joseph Bowling 1792 - b: 1792 > >______________________________--------------------- >Forwarded message: >Subj: Re: David Bowling >Date: 97-11-13 20:58:20 EST >From: MAWJAW >To: lrwallac@inet-direct.com > >Hello! Does anyone have a David BOWLING in their research? David is such a >common name, but it seems that in all of the research that's been posted to >this list and to the Bolling_Baker list on rootsweb, the name David never >seems to surface. > >Any help or hints are greatly appreciated!! > > >Julie Anne Bowling-Williams >

< Janette Burke (JFBURKE@BELLATLANTIC.NET) asks: < Can someone suggest how to handle the change in spelling of the last < name in their databases.> Hi, Janette, I use what I consider the generic spelling in my database - BOLLING - although my ancestors used BOLLING, BOWLING or BOLING, many times all for the same person. It is easier for me to use the one spelling, and mark the variation in the notes that the name was spelled differently and quote the source. It has worked for me in the database that I use. I started out with BOLLING because that is the way it had been handed down in the family, but I later found other variations to add. Alice in Houston Alice BUSSEY Broaddus ============================================================= ABB5985@AOL.com a.broaddus@Juno.com a.broaddus@genie.com MTBV40A@prodigy.com ANDERSON-*-ASKINS-*-BELL-*-BLEDSOE-*-BOLLING-*-BONHAM-*-BROADDUS BURGAMY-*-BUSSEY-*-CAVANAGH-*-CHRISTIAN-*-DOTY-*-DUNCAN DUSHAROONE-*-FULLER-*-GORDON-*-GORDY-*-GWYNNE-*-HARRY-*-HEARD HAYS/HAYES-*-HOWARD-*-HUBBARD-*-HUME-*-JAMES-*-KAVANAGH LANDRUM-*-LATHROP-*-LEMASTER-*-LOVE-*-MILLER-*-MURPHY-*-OLDHAM PARKER-*-PATTILLO-*-PATTON-*-PENNINGTON-*- PRITCHETT-*-ROYAL SCOTT-*-SMITH -*-WALTERS-*-WARREN-*-WILLIAMS (MA,NJ,DE,MD,VA,KY,NC,SC,GA,TX )

I have also found a James Bolen listed in the Denton County, Texas deeds, if anyone is looking for a James Bolen, deed # 37-38-39-40. Kaye in Arkansas

I am new to this list and would like to know about the "Blue" Bollings, "red" Bollings and the "white" Bollings. What does this mean? I have a David D Boling/Bowlen b. early 1820's married Louisa JB ANDERSON born 1827. They were married abt. 1843. They had a daughter Mary E BOLING born Jun 1849. Mary E BOLING married Levi Hawkins KINDER. Levi was born in Smyth Co. Va. Any information would be appreciated. One more thing are there any Boling websites? Thanks, Laurie