I looked in the one book that I have that refers to the Dripping Springs Baptist Church, Ludema, and on pages 28, 29 and 46 there is no Lucy or William. We must not have the same books. Yours, Linne >Linne, look on pages 28,29 and 46 of Dripping Springs church...it >says...Sister Lucy-servant of William Bowles-November 1808. Also in >1808, Sarah must've bought Lucy from William, since it says she was >dismissed from the church on consequence of being sold. She was >received back in the church as a servant of Sarah Bowles, only a >month later, December 1808. Then, Br. Ben a servant of William >Bowles-May 1815, but a bro Ben was first mentioned as being owned by >Lowry Bishop. And we know that Stocktons, Bishops and Bowles relate. >Though William Bowles wasn't mentioned as a member of Dripping >Springs church. He was mentioned in the records of the church. So >there was a connection, somewhere. > >Sincerely, >Ludema Bowles > > > >-------- Original Message -------- > >==> From: Linne Gravestock <linne@gravestock.name> >==> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2005 11:33:25 -0800 > > Leathel, in the book, "Pioneer Baptist Church Records of >South-Central Kentucky and the Upper Cumberland of Tennessee, 1799- >1899," it says on page 96: > > "History of Mt. Pisgah Baptist Church (Barren County, >Kentucky) > > Mt. Pisgah was a daughter of Dripping Spring Baptist Church. >In the Dripping Spring Church Book on the first Saturday in April >1809, the following was recorded: > > "'After divine service 1st. a number of the brethren made >excuses for neglecting to attend church meeting and took their seat. >2nd. Received Ann a servant of C. Hitches by experence. [sic.] >3rd. From a petition from the following bretheren viz: John & Ann >Warder, Joseph & Esther Warder, Clement & Elizabeth Hitch, Joseph >Warder, Sarah Bowles, John & Elizabeth Bowles, Sibella Longdon, >William Warder, Walter and Polly Warder, Sarah & Polly Maddox, Nancy >Settle, Jack (a servant of T. James), Baptist (serv. of J. Warder) >Lucy (ser. of Sarah Bowles) letter of dismission and granted in >order to form a constitution at a meeting house by John Warder & >dismissed in order.'" > > On the fourth Sunday in April the following was recorded: > > "'at a meeting at Brother John Warders dismissed Moses & >Hannah Cox, Frederic & Lucy Smith, Elizabeth Settle, Sally Bailey, >Elisha Deweese, Wm. Beard, Michael & Fanny Hall, Manuel (a serv. of >Lucy Settle) in order to join the above const.'" > > In 1856 Mt. Pisgah was dismissed by letter from the Green >River Association to join some other association in that area. The >church appears to have united with the Original Barren River >Association at this time. However by 1879 there is no mention of >the church in the minutes of that association. In 1855, a church >called Mt. Pisgah, joined the Barren River Association with a >membership of 26, and continued with that body until 1860." (snip) > [Next is an accounting of the men who were the >representatives of the church at larger association meetings. In >1814, W. Bowles is mentioned, and there were 93 members. No other >Bowles are mentioned in the other years.] > > [Just for the record, I'm going to list all the Bowles in >the book, their churches and the years they attended, so we can have >it in one place.] > > Page 112: Three Springs Baptist Church (Barren County, >Kentucky) Messengers 1876 I. N. Mouser, Alex. Ford, Jno. F. >Bowles, Pastor: M. P. Goofin, Clerk: A. A. Poynter > > Page 123: Dripping Springs Baptist Church (Metcalfe County, >Kentucky) Additions to Dripping Springs Baptist Church by Year and >Month > >October 1807 Salley Bouls, Lucy, serv. Mrs. Bouls December 1808 >Elizabeth Bowls January 1809 John Bowls > > Page 282: Cedar Springs Baptist Church (Edmonson County, >Kentucky) 1893 Palvena Boles Cross > > Page 455: Cumberland River Baptist Church (Monroe County, >Kentucky) Messengers 1813 John B. Longdon, Thos. Ray, >John Bowls > > page 458: McFarland Creek (Pleasant Run) Church, (Monroe >County, Kentucky) Messengers 1815 John Bowles, Jesse Scott 1816 > John Bowles, John Coe, Jesse Scott 1817 Jno. Bowles, Jno. >Coe, Hamiliton [sic] Savage 1818 Hamolton [sic] Savage, J. >Bowles > > That's it! Linne > > > > > > >Lue, you are in the Thomas Phillip Bowles and Sarah Bacon group >when >you mention Dripping Springs Church.I don't remember William >or >Benjamin going to Dripping Springs Church? John and his wife >>Elizabeth, Sarah and Lucy her servant, Mary and husband are the >only >ones I remember going to Dripping Springs Church? >Leathel, > >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Ludema" <skyking@scrtc.com> >>To: <BOWLES-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 1:55 AM >>Subject: Re: Re: William Anderson Bowles > >>Ludema Bowles >> >> >> >>>-------- Original Message -------- >> >>==> From: "Ludema" ><skyking@scrtc.com> >>==> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 23:21:42 -0600 >> >>>1850 Census Owsley/Estil William Bowles, 63 ( William Anderson >>>Bowles m Sarah in Ky 1804, m. Lucy Ann Thomas 1821) Lucy Thomas, >23 >>Hughs, 21 James, 19 William, 14 Sarah, 8 Margaret, 5 >> >>>Anderson Bowles, 27 Emily, 22 Edy, 1 >> >>James Bowles, 17 >> >>>William Boles, 55 Elizabeth, 35 Edy, 22 Garrardo, 20 >> >>Elbert >Boles, 37 Nancy, 35 James, 16 Jeddy, 14 Elizabeth, 12 John, 8 >>>Stephen, 5 Thomas, 5 Daniel, >>>3 .......................................... >> >>If this is the >William and Sarah of Barren and Metcalfe Co,Ky's, >>Dripping Springs >church, and if William's middle name was Anderson, >>could this also >be the Anderson Bowles who died in 1809? I think it >>was. >> >>>Apparently, William Bowles was alive until 1809. Since, in 1807, >>>sister Lucy was his servent, as recorded in Dripping Springs >church >>records. But, by 1809 of April, sister Lucy was then a >servent of >>Sarah Bowles. Also recorded in Dripping Springs church >records. >> >>Sincerely, Ludema Bowles >>>............................................................ >>>Back to the drawing board. >> >>A William Bowles is mentioned in >Dripping Springs church in 1815, as >>the owner of Ben. So, which >William this is...don't know. >>But it is strange that Lucy was >first, servant of William Bowles. >>Later she was servant of Sarah. >Don't know if wording, meant >>anything, or not. >> >>Sincerely, >>>Ludema Bowles >> >> >> >>-------- Original Message -------- >> >>>==> From: "Leathel Bowles" <LEATHEL@worldnet.att.net> ==> Date: >Sat, >>5 Mar 2005 22:08:07 -0500 >> >>William Anderson Bowles is the >son of Hughs and Mary (Shipp) Bowles. >>Hughs Bowles is the son of >Gedion and Charity Ann (Hughes) Bowles. >>My guess the William >Bowles 55 years old in 1850 was probably 45 >>years old and son of >William Anderson Bowles? Anderson and Elbert >>Bowles are also sons >of William Anderson Bowles. With correct dates >>should match DNA >#31906. Leathel, >> >>Bowles DNA Project Kit #31906 >> >>1850 Census >Owsley/Estil William Bowles, 63 ( William Anderson >>Bowles m Sarah >in Ky 1804, m. Lucy Ann Thomas 1821) Lucy Thomas, 23 >>Hughs, 21 >James, 19 William, 14 Sarah, 8 Margaret, 5 >> >>Anderson Bowles, 27 >Emily, 22 Edy, 1 >> >>James Bowles, 17 >> >>William Boles, 55 >Elizabeth, 35 Edy, 22 Garrardo, 20 >> >>Elbert Boles, 37 Nancy, 35 >James, 16 Jeddy, 14 Elizabeth, 12 John, 8 >>Stephen, 5 Thomas, 5 >Daniel, 3 > >