No. You can send it to me privately if you wish, but Rootsweb does not forward attachments. On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 7:42 PM, Don and Mary <dande5604@cox.net> wrote: > I sent an attachment with this. Did it come through? > Mary > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don and Mary" <dande5604@cox.net> > To: <bowles@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:34 PM > Subject: [BOWLES] Bowles, Jane identify picture > > > > Can anyone help? > > Thank you, > > Mary > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > BOWLES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOWLES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

Mary, if you attached a picture to this message, it will not go through Rootsweb as they do not allow attachments. Charlie On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 4:34 PM, Don and Mary <dande5604@cox.net> wrote: > Can anyone help? > Thank you, > Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOWLES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > >

I sent an attachment with this. Did it come through? Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don and Mary" <dande5604@cox.net> To: <bowles@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 1:34 PM Subject: [BOWLES] Bowles, Jane identify picture > Can anyone help? > Thank you, > Mary > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOWLES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Can anyone help? Thank you, Mary

===================================================================== Match: Bowles Source: EVANS-RICHARD@rootsweb.com From: MegMccalla@aol.com Subject: Re: [EVANS-RICHARD] Quaker question This doesn't answer the question, but Richard Hall's will said his children were to be raised Quaker. I'm going to try to find out how many, if any, married Friends. Quakers were "married out of unity (mou)" if they married a non-Quaker & were dismissed from membership, but allowed to attend meeting for worship. (There would first be an effort to persuade the couple to "confess" and spouse to join the Meeting.) The Halls were members of Cliffs Monthly Mtg. - maybe "we" / someone can find a record of the members of that Meeting? I found the info below Renee's post on World Connect, but couldn't get to the web page of the second source of info. If they were all neighbors, there's a good chance Richard Evans was a Quaker & the marriage record found in Quaker rec.s for that area. In the 1600s, Friends did hold public office & "affirmed" rather than swore the oath. Richard Hall was probably in VA before MD & may have first been a Puritan (see accounts of Richard Preston's history). I'll keep looking. Newbie Meg McCalla In a message dated 7/11/2009 4:07:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, listadministratorevans@earthlink.net writes: Here's a query I'm just throwing out there to see what folks think: We know that Richard Evans 1669 married Elizabeth Hall, daughter of a relatively famous Maryland Quaker, Richard Hall. We've never found any kind of marriage citation for Richard and Elizabeth, right? Here's my question [along with sub-questions]: do you think Richard was Quaker at the time of his marriage? Did Quakers have to marry Quakers or was there a lot of intermarriage? . . . _Click here: RootsWeb's WorldConnect Project: Russell's Ancestors_ (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mikegburke&id=I04701&prin ter_friendly) _Return to normal view_ (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mikegburke&id=I04701) Entries: 2353 Updated: 2007-07-31 03:43:06 UTC (Tue) Contact: Michael Burke ____________________________________ ID: I04701 Name: Richard Evans Sex: M Birth: ABT. 1670 in Wales Death: 1703 in Calvert Co, Maryland Religion: Quaker [source?] Will: 7 JAN 1701/02 Probate: 25 APR 1703 Calvert Co, Maryland Note: >From Lucas Genealogy by Annabelle Kempt [Kemp]: Richard Evans, father of Elizabeth Lucas-Beall, was a planter in Calvert Go, Md he mar Elizabeth Hall b 1673, 6th child of Richard Hall, planter, of Calvert Co, Md. Richard Evans made his last will 7 Jan 1702, proved in Calvert Go, Md 25 Apr 1703 in which he mentions his wife Elizabeth, as Exec; she to have his dwelling place and part of "Hall's Hill" which land he had purchased from his brother-in-law, Elisha Hall; she also to have the 150 acres called "Johnson's Place" during her lifetime, then it to go to their son Samuel Evans. Son Samuel also to have the 300 acres called "The Hope," which was located on the Susquehanna River in Cecil Go, Md. "If my unborn child be a dau, she to share equally with my dan Elizabeth in the 400 acre tract called "Evans Ranges'; to his dau Ann the survey called "Green's Delight" in Prince George Go, his daus to be over 16 yrs of age when they receive their property. He appoints his brothers in-law, Walter Smith and Benjamin Hall, as overseerers. (See Md Cal of Wills vol 3 p 1.) His unborn child was a dau, Priscilla who mar (1) a Mr. Groome; mar (2) a Mr. McClain. Richard Evans received patents to several parcels of land in Md including "Green's Delight" on 1 June 1686, which land was then located in Charles Co until 1696 when Prince Geo Co was erected. On 30 Mar 1685 he patented "Barbadoes" in Charles Co and on 2 Apr 1698 he obtained a patent for the 44)0 acres called "Evan's Range" in Prince Geo Co. _http://www.rfrank.net/genealogy/cehg.html_ (http://www.rfrank.net/genealogy/cehg.html) [Meg couldn't get to page] I believe I can clear up or at least cast some additional light on the problems you are struggling with in regard to the Evans family. I also carry the notation that Richard Evans came from the old country to New Jersey and thence to Maryland, but only because that is the traditional account with which we started this search. I am not convinced that he ever went near New Jersey. We know that he married Elizabeth Hall who was born in 1673 in Calvert County, Maryland. Her father, Richard Hall, an English born Quaker, who died in Calvert Co., is your earliest known ancestor [in the Hall line]. His wife was named Elizabeth, and was so far as I know the only wife he had. She immigrated with him on or before 1663. The Halls, Evans, and Kingsburys had land grants on a survey of The Ordinary of 1664 at the head of Lands Creek on the Pawtuxent River. I have not been able to follow up the information I have on these Maryland records as I would wish to do, but I intend to do so. It has been written that one Bishop Joseph Hall of England was the father or other ancestor of Richard Hall, but Richard Hall was a Quaker, and I am not inclined to think that this is likely, although my husband reminds me that somebody had to the first Quaker in every family. Another possible antecedent is based on the note in Early Virginia Immigrants 1623-1666 in re: transportation by Richard Hall, county not named, of Joseph Hall, Samuel Hall, Katherine Hall, Richard Hall Sr., Richard Hall Jr. in 1652. I believe some Quakers from VA went to MD when it became expedient to do so. A Richard Hall and a Stephen Hall had been transported by Capt. Moore Fauntleroy in 1650, county not named, but I believe the Fauntleroys were primarily in Westmoreland Co., VA. Another Richard Hall was transported by John Clarkson, Charles River Co., 1638. We had always assumed that Richard Evans, b. circa 1650, d. 1703 Calvert Co., MD, first husband of Elizabeth Hall, was the earliest known Evans. However, in noting the close proximity of the Hall, Evans, and Kingsbury families, I discovered that Letters of Administration were granted (apparently to one Kingsbury) on the estate of Samuel Evans between 1691 and 1694. I want to see this. It might be in Anne Arundel [County] and might be in Calvert Co. I have not had the best of luck in getting my hands on various documents in Maryland records, nor in persuading other folks to look certain items up for me and themselves, so progress on these questions has been slow. Richard Evans was possibly a good 20 years younger than we were originally led to believe, or 3 instead of 23 years older than his wife. The statement that he was b. circa 1650 and landed first in New Jersey was just a statement. Nothing was ever put forward to substantiate it, and it does look highly unlikely upon close examination. Richard Evans in his will left land to Samuel, to his named daughters Elizabeth and Ann, and mentioned an unborn child, also leaving a life estate in the home plantation to his wife, Elizabeth. Elizabeth later married Dr. James Kingsbury, who died in 1725 or 1726 leaving all his property in England and Maryland to her. When she made her will in March 1743 she left a token coin each to Samuel Evans, Elizabeth Lucas, and Ann Pottinger, and left her land and other property to her son James Kingsbury and her daughter Priscilla Groome. Some descendants have somehow concluded that Ann was a Kingsbury and the question of whether Priscilla was an Evans has been raised. While I do not have documentary proof, I would feel quite safe in betting that Priscilla was a daughter of the husband who left all his property to her. Her Evans children had their inheritance from their father's will, and during their minority their stepfather was responsible for its conservation. While all this was going on Calvert Co. was being subdivided and Elizabeth Hall had her will probated in Prince George County. When Samuel Evans was born, his parents were definitely located in Calvert Co., MD., Conocoteague settlement, where at least some of his children were born near where Hagerstown, Maryland is now . . . Samuel Evans either was not fortunate or maybe he bet on too many slow horses, but he mortgaged some of the land disposed of by Richard Evans' will to a London merchant, one William Black, and then sometime before 1771 assigned the remainder to another party. It is entirely possible that when he left Maryland with his sons and his sister's children in 1769 that he had no property left in Maryland. He was apparently a widower, since there is no record of an assignment of dower that I have found. He may have had no choice but to accompany the younger members of his family to where they were going. They may also have had little choice. The trip was not as arduous as it sounds. From Hagerstown to just north of Morgantown is not so far as some traveled by wagon when they jumped off from St. Joseph, MO to the far west, and possibly not as uncomfortable. There was a well defined road through Hagerstown to the west with a fair amount of traffic on it. Braddock cut the original road from Alexandria for his cannon and didn't quite make it all the way to Ft. Duquesne but the trace he cut was followed later by more successful travelers. The road later known as the National Highway cut through the same area on the way to Wheeling. It was one of the main arteries to the west and eventually to the French and Spanish settlements on the Mississippi. The Lucas', Swans and Hughes who settled Ten Mile Creek in Washington (Greene) Co. PA at the same time as Samuel Evans were children and grandchildren of his sister, Elizabeth. They didn't need John Snider to show them the way out to Ten Mile Run, and it is possible that he couldn't have held them back if he had tried. What they did get from him was some advice on the quality and attributes of the land still available that was located off the main highway. I have seen copies of the list of Samuel Evans' children from his Bible made by people who state that they have seen the original. It is regrettable that none of them ever put a [photostatic] (or certified) copy of the Bible record in the public record. You will never be able to use their statement as proof. However, I see no reason to think that the information they have copied and published is not correct. From the list it appears that Samuel Evans may have had at least two wives, there being a five year gap between the births of Mary the oldest and Samuel the second child and oldest son. The four year gap between Richard and Thomas near the end of the list might also indicate another lost wife, but it is less likely. Presumably if any record of a marriage is found it will be in Calvert or Prince George's Co. I would like to find some estate settlement of Samuel Evans, but given the probability that he died without property, there may not have been any. At the time of his death the record, if any, would have been in Bedford County. Westmoreland, then Washington, then Greene Counties were carved out of the older county after 1770. I have not combed the Bedford Co. records although there are several people to look up there in one time period or another, and I intend to do so if time permits it. I know of no reason to suppose that he died in Maryland. Usually the accounts of the oldest of the first settlers are found to be accurate if you can carve through the accumulations and embellishments added by intervening generations. http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=nlndgrn&id=I38354 The Maryland Calendar Of Wills Compiled And Edited by Jane Baldwin (Jane Baldwin Cotton) Wills From 1703 To 1713 Volume III, Family Line Publications Westminster, Maryland; 1988, p. 1 Evans, Richard, Calvert Co., 7th Jan., 1702; 25th Apr., 1703. To wife Eliza:, extx., 1/3 of personalty, dwelling plantation, part of "Hall's Hill," bought of brother-in-law Elisha Hall, and 150 A., "Johnson's Place," during life. " son Samuel and hrs., afsd. lands at death of wife and 300 A., "The Hope" on Susquehanna R., Cecil Co. " unborn child. if son, 400 A., part of "Evans' Range" on n. branch Patuxent R, Prince George's Co. Should sd. unborn child be dau., afsd. "Evans' Range" to be equally divided among afsd. child. and 2 daus. named below. To dau. Eliza: and hrs., 200 A., residue of "Evans' Range," Prince George's Co. " dau. Ann and hrs., "Greene's Delight," Prince George's Co. Daus. to be of age at 16 yrs. and son or sons at 18 yrs. Overseers: Brothers-in-law Walter Smith and Benjamin Hall. Test: Henry Cole, Dan'l Malraigne. 11. 282. Mr. Richard Evans 24.67 I £386.17.7 May 12 1703 Appraisers: Mr. Edward Buttler, John Smith. Creditors: Col. William Smith. Richard Evans 25.60 A CA £386.17.7 £354.6.8 Apr 28 1705 Payments to: Richard Bennitt & Mr. James Heath, Mr. Robert Bradley, Walter Smith, Aron Hall, Nathan Smith for use of Nathaniell Rouse & Co., Edward Buttler, James Stoddert, Ellas Coleman, George Parker, Thomas Cockshutt, Capt. Thomas Emms, Charles Allen for use of Thomas Norris, Thomas Brooke, Esq., Peter Paggen & Co. per Walter Smith, Peter Paggen & Co. per John Smith, John Lidden. Executrix: Elisabeth Kingsberry, wife of Dr. James Kingsberry. Richard Evans 25.112 A CA £386.17.7 £384.15.2 Nov 15 1705 Payments to: Edward Buttler for use of John Hyde, Walter Smith for use of Capt. Hepburne, John Philips, Richard Harrison, John Smith for use of Mr. Peter Pagen & Co., Katharine Anderson, John Pedden, Edward Butler for use of Tob. Bowles. Executrix: widow (unnamed), now wife of Dr. James Kingsberry.[Kingsbury] Marriage 1 _Elizabeth Hall_ (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mikegburke&id=I05317) b: 1673 in Prince Georges Co, Maryland * Married: ABT. 1690 in Prince Georges Co, Maryland Children 1. _Samuel Evans_ (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mikegburke&id=I13185) b: 1691 2. _Elizabeth Evans_ (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mikegburke&id=I09513) b: 1695 in Maryland 3. _Anne Evans_ (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mikegburke&id=I13196) b: 1696 in Prince George Co, Maryland 4. _Priscilla Evans_ (http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mikegburke&id=I13034) b: 1703

This is Tom LaPorte's line. You can see more at http://tinyurl.com/lxlfyn Linne ===================================================================== Match: Bowles Source: SPARROW@rootsweb.com From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [SPARROW] Catherine Sparrow - George Singleton This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Alice_Sparrow Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.sparrow/323.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I think John Sparrow and Mary Conway had two daughters named Catherine. The first one died shortly after birth. The second one probably should have read Born about 1796. She married William Bowles 11 May 1826 . > In the St. Andrew's (Quebec) Parish Registry > > William Bowles of the City of Quebec, bachelor, and Miss Catherine Sparrow of the same place, spinster, were, by license from His Excellency The Earl of Dalhousie, joined in the Holy Bonds of Matrimony on the 11th day of May one thousand eight hundred and twenty six by me > James Harkney, Min. > Signed: William Bowles Catherine Sparrow Peter Langlois James Booth > Note: William and Catherine's marriage contract states that Peter Langlois is Catherine's brother-in-law. Joseph SPARROW son of John and mary married Elizabeth Stapleton. They had 10 children. 1. Catherine Sparrow 13 Apr 1822 in Upper Canada (Ont)baptism: 17 march 1839 Sponsors:John, Catherine , Annie Fisher and Charlotte Langlois 2.William Sparrow B 1824 3.Josiah P Sparrow B 1834 dIED BEF 1900. 1870 Census, Mazomanie, Dane Wisconsin ( August 3, 1870) HE is a Gospel Minister. married to Alizina M Harris. 1900 census listed her as a widow with four children, only one living. 4.Peter I Sparrow Born 1834 , (either he was a twin or born shouls read about)18 March 1867 - Peter age 22 and resident of Percy, when married to Martha Gaffield age 19 and resident of Halimand, . This marriage is recordedd in the County Marriage Register of Ontario 1858-1869 Volume 9, Northumberland County. 5.Eliza Sparrow 1836 6.Joseph Sparrow 1840 married to MARIA with 3 children. 1880 U.S CENSUS lumber inspector, wife Marion born in MI 7.Laura Sparrow b. 1841 8.Charlotte Sparrow b abt 1844 Percy Twp,Ont D,19 Oct 1872 Castleton,Carmache,Northumberland,Ont. she married Jacob S Pettibone, wagon maker, 27 Oct 1866 Northumberland,Ont. They had 2 children. 9.Charles Sparrow 1844. 10. Mary Sparrow Catherine born in 1822 married to George Singleton. they had 7 children. Mary Sparrow ,daughter of John Sparrow and Mary Conway married Peter Langlois. they had 12 children. I have their descendants. Perhaps it would be easier if you cantacted me at aspar@mts.net Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. =====================================================================

===================================================================== Match: Bowles Source: GEN-OBIT@rootsweb.com From: "Walter E. Styles" <wstyles@erols.com> Subject: [GEN-OBIT] Obituary Daily Times v15No185 Obituary Daily Times v15#185 To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send a message to <gen-obit-REQUEST@rootsweb.com> with the single word message of: unsubscribe No other text (including auto signature files) may be in the message or your request will not be processed. Visit the ODT web site at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary> LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date; tagname ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (snip) BOLL, Lorraine ( ); 82; CA; Sacramento Bee; 2009-6-21; kkm (snip)

===================================================================== Match: Bole Source: PAADAMS@rootsweb.com From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [PAADAMS] History of Adams County, Pa lookups This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: bstegena1 Surnames: webb Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.adams/1713.19/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In your book does it have any information on William Webb Sr. b 1765-d 1842 married to Mary Cook b 1775 - 1845? We are trying to find out who his father was and am having no luck at all. Are there any pictures of Orda and Della Webb and their farm at Blue Creek? I never saw it and have no pictures of the farm, but would love one if it exists. I cannot find anything on Sarah Colvin b 1825 and James Copas b 1824. If there is anything interesting on family names such as COPAS/COOK/WEBB/COLVIN/BOLE/HEIZER Email me at bstegena@comcast.net I would sure love to have a copy. Thank you so much for your time. Brig Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. =============================================================

===================================================================== Match: Bowles Source: GEN-OBIT@rootsweb.com From: "Walter E. Styles" <wstyles@erols.com> Subject: [GEN-OBIT] Obituary Daily Times v15No185 Obituary Daily Times v15#185 To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send a message to <gen-obit-REQUEST@rootsweb.com> with the single word message of: unsubscribe No other text (including auto signature files) may be in the message or your request will not be processed. Visit the ODT web site at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary> LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date; tagname ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (snip) LUPER, Elnora B (BOWLES); 80; Winston-Salem NC; Winston-Salem J; 2009-6-19; msty (snip)

Carol adds: Opal's parent's names were William Henry Bethany and Lina Bethany. Her husbands name was warren debs bowles. Her grandfathers name is what I want to contact them about. I have information to share with them if they wish to know. Willie Opal Bethany's grandfather's was my great grandfather's brother. They all died in a smallpox epidemic we believe. ===================================================================== Match: Bowles Source: BETHANY@rootsweb.com From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: [BETHANY] Anyone from the William H. Bethany line This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cabethany Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bethany/130/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On this board, including any descendants of Opal Bethany Bowles? Would love to hear from you. My husbands grandfather was William's Uncle. William was named after Dan's wife father William H. who fought in the civil war, and migrated to the South East from Illinois. I have some info on William H's sister Lessie Mae Bethany Wisdom as well. William also had an aunt name Sallie whose family still lives in the missouri/Tennessee area, but we are still trying to track all of them down. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ===========================================================

===================================================================== Match: Boles Source: GEN-OBIT@rootsweb.com From: "Walter E. Styles" <wstyles@erols.com> Subject: [GEN-OBIT] Obituary Daily Times v15No184 Obituary Daily Times v15#184 To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send a message to <gen-obit-REQUEST@rootsweb.com> with the single word message of: unsubscribe No other text (including auto signature files) may be in the message or your request will not be processed. Visit the ODT web site at <http://www.rootsweb.com/~obituary> LAST NAME, First Name (MAIDEN); Age; Place of Death; Newspaper Name; Newspaper date; tagname ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- (snip) MERRELL, Audrey (BOLES); 93; DeKalb Co TN>Abilene TX; Abilene R-N; 2009-7-5; hmg (snip)

"mjancestor2" adds to her original posting on Ancestry: Samuel G./H. Bowles married Rebecca Catherine Holtz, daughter of Jacob Holtz and Sarah Eleanor Douglas. Samuel and Rebecca had children: Mareta G. Bowles b. Aug 1886 per 1900 census Edwin S. b. Jan 1888 Rella E. b. Dec 1890 Mareta seems to have been married to John Wesley Thacher. She signed Rebecca's death certificate. John Wesley Thacher's death certificate states he was born 18 Oct 1859, died 21 Aug 1940, son of Samuel Thacher and Hannah Walker. He was buried 24 Aug 1940 in fairmount Cemetery. Most info from 1900 census George's mother was Eliza J. ____, born Feb 1837. George & Rebecca were married about 1882. By 1900, Rebecca had given birth to 6,. only 3 were living. George b. Sept 1845 Rebecca Holtz b. Mar 12, 1852, in Belmont County, OH d. Mar 27, 1948 in Alliance, Stark County, Ohio. Rebecca is buried in Fairmount Memorial Park. Ohio Death certificate 20085. ===================================================================== Match: Bowles Source: HOLTZ@rootsweb.com From: "gc-gateway@rootsweb.com" <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [HOLTZ] Otho William and Ann Davis Holtz, decendants This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: mjancestor2 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.holtz/374.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The children of Otho Holtz and Ann Davis are: DeWitt LeDrew (DeWitt and LeDrew are in family records - 1870 census shows 1 male child 1 month old (May 1870) - suspect these were twins and did not survive.) Adda Estella, b. June 14, 1861, OH d. Feb 22, 1948 in CA, married Rev. James A. Gardiner June 30, 1879 Guernsey Co., OH Rev. Gardiner was teacher, then professor of Latin & Greek, then Presbyterian (MDiv) minister. Emerson S. b. Feb 1863, married Annie Stordt/Stradt abt 1898. Erma b. Oct 13, 1868, IA, d. Sept 15, 1963 in OH, married Wilbur Lee McWilliams Nov 28, 1889 in Fairview OH Lena, b. 26 Jan 1872 IA, d. 26 June, 1948, married Wilson Anderson Otho and Tabitha had: Infant son b. bef 1910 - lived about 5 days James Jacob Alger Holtz b. 21 July 1896 Marvin Lee Holtz Tabitha Vincent daughter of William Thomas Vincent and Ruth J. McClennen. Otho was born to Jacob Abiram Holtz III and Sarah Eleanor Douglas. Otho's siblings: Margaret Rebecca b. abt 1834 Dr. Otho William b. Nov 6, 1836, d. Aug 13, 1927 John Samuel b. Oct 14, 1838 D. Feb 21, 1924 married 1) Cordia Jame Richmond 2) Ava R. Lloyd 3) Mrs. Eliza Clark Rev. David Franklin b. Jan 15, 1840 d. 14 Nov 1922, Wayne, OH William Roland b. abt 1842 Jacob Abiram, IV, b. abt 1843 Rev. Earl Douglass , b Oct 30, 1844 d. Mar 9, 1922, FL Dr. James Merriman , b. Feb 10, 1848 d. 1 Jun 1941, married Isabell Morton Rebecca Caroline "Carrie" b. Mar 27, 1852, d. 27 Mar 1948, married George R. Bowles abt 1882 Cora, b. abt 1852 Mary Elizabeth, b. 4 Oct 1854, d. 17 July 1939 married Samuel B. Hood Unknown Infant Sarah Eleanor Ann Davis was the daughter of Richard Washington Davis and Elizabeth "Eliza" Wilson. Ann b. Jan 29, 1840, OH, d. Jan 1, 1934, OH ********** Jasper County Iowa Biographies, Gen James B. Weaver, Editor in Chief, 1912, p 651 states Otho was physician, as well as multiple census records. He was a farmer in 1870 in Jasper Co IA He is "practicing medicine" in 1900 is Wayne Co MO. How & when he became a doctor, I'm not sure. He may not have had a degree? Might have learned in the Civil War? *** Corp. in 96th Ohio Volunteer Infantry enlisted 14 Aug 1862 promoted to quartermaster sargent 6 Feb 1865 **** Otho buried in Chaonia Cemetery in Wayne Co. MO. He doesn't have a marker, but Tabitha does. ***** Annie Davis Holtz's death certificate lists her as widowed, with her husband Otho Holtz. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ==================================

WARNING... Speculation follows. Looking back at that 1850 census record... 1850 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Fulton County, Wells Township, page 96A household 61/63 Robert Bowles - 53 M, farmer, born PA Jane Bowles - 50 F, born PA Margaret Bowles - 22 F, born PA Robert Bowles - 21 M, laborer, born PA Ross Bowles - 19 M, laborer, born PA Catharine Bowles - 17 F, born PA Bella Bowles - 16 F, born PA Crawford Bowles - 10 M, born PA We know that some of the ages are wrong. According to his death record, Crawford Bowles was born 13 Jan 1838 which would have made him just a bit past his 12th birthday at the time of the census. Catharine is identified in at least one place as having been born in 1834. And then in the 1860 census she gave her age as 23 which would have her born about 1837. In 1880 she was 44 (born about 1836). In 1880, Margaret (Maggie) said she was 45 which would have her born about 1835; but her cemetery record says she was born in 1827. Now the reason I'm pointing all this out is that I've on occasion seen census records where boys have been identifed as females in an early record, only to be properly identifed as male later on. What has me wondering is who Bella Bowles is in 1850. Could it be that James B. Bowles, who is identified on his cemetery record as James Bell Bowles, was misidentifed in 1850? Could he be Bella? The age is wrong, but as I've pointed out, this family seemed to have trouble getting ages right. Again, you've been warned, this is pure speculation. Perhaps someone can check Blair County PA marriage records to see if "Bella" Bowles married someone.

Additiional information... 1910 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Altoona Ward 8, page 180A household 56/60 Bowles, James - head, M W 71, md 33 yrs, born PA, father born PA, mother born PA, school teacher Bowles, Mary - wife, F W 65, 5 children/4 living, born MD, parents born MD Bowles, Kyle H. - son, M W 31, single, born PA, machine shop laborer Bowles, Bessie - daughter, F W 25, single, born PA Bowles, Chester W. - son, M W 23, single, born PA, music dealer salesman WWI Registration Card Chester Wilson Bowles, b. 26 Feb 1886; married to Pearl Beatrice Bowles. Kyle Haggerty Bowles, b. 30 Jun 1889; (married to Hope M. Fuller per 1930 Baltimore census) Chester Wilson Bowles, 1948 (Juniata), son of Prof. James and Mary Beeler Bowles, husband of Pearl Comstock. from http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/BOWLES/2004-03/1080635892 Chester, Pearl, and their son Chester Jr. (still born in 1914) are all buried in the Rose Hill Cemetery in Blair County. Chester Sr. died on 17 Mar 1948; Pearl died in Dec 1976. >From the "Find A Grave" online index: Fairview Cemetery in Altoona, Blair County, Pennsylvania: Pvt James Bell Bowles: S/O Robert & Jane (Ross) Bowles. Pvt., Co. A, 125th Regt., Pa.Vol.Inf., Civil War veteran. Ret. school teacher. Lafferty & Tobias Funeral Home, Altoona, Pa. Birth: Oct. 13, 1835, Huntingdon, Huntingdon County, Pennsylvania, USA Death: Nov. 4, 1915, Altoona, Blair County, Pennsylvania, USA Jane Ross Bowles Birth: Jan. 22, 1800, Pennsylvania, USA Death: Jul. 23, 1871, Pennsylvania, USA Robert Bowles, spouse. Pvt Crawford Black Bowles: S/O Robert & Jane (Ross) Bowles. Pvt., Co. H, 92nd Illinois Vol. Inf., Civil War veteran. Ret. merchant. Lafferty & Tobias Funeral Home, Altoona, Pa. Birth: Jan. 13, 1838, Pennsylvania, USA Death: Sep. 15, 1918, Altoona, Blair County, Pennsylvania, USA Jennie E. Bowles Birth: 1839 Death: Jul. 12, 1872, Pennsylvania, USA Crawford B. Bowles, spouse. Dr Crawford M. Bowles Birth: 1878, Pennsylvania, USA Death: Apr., 1962, USA Elsie May (Bible) Bowles, spouse. Elsie May Bible Bowles Birth: 1886 Death: Jul., 1946, USA Dr. Crawford M. Bowles, spouse. James Ross Bowles Birth: 1876, Pennsylvania, USA Death: Jan., 1885, Pennsylvania, USA Margaret E. "Maggie" Bowles Birth: 1827 Death: Nov. 12, 1895, Altoona, Blair County, Pennsylvania, USA

James B. Bowles is described on three different pages, which are generally in agreement with one another (with a few exceptions). You should view each page. http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/blair/bios/jnt/bowlesjbpen.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/blair/bios/wiley/wiley09.txt http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/blair/bios/sell/bo-bu.txt >From those pages we learn that James was a son of Robert and Jane (Ross) Bowles, and that his grandfather was a John Bowles from Scotland. I've found James with his wife and family in the 1880 and 1900 censuses as shown below. 1880 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Logan Township, page 426C household 93/99 Bowles, Jas. B. - W M 36, teacher, born PA, father born PA, mother born MD Bowles, Mary L. - W F 31, wife, keeping house, born MD, father born MD, mother born PA Bowles, Ross - W M 3, son, born PA Bowles, Crawford M. - W M 2, son, born PA Bowles, Maggie E. - W F 45, sister, single, keeping house, born PA, father born PA, mother born MD 1900 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Altoona Ward 8, page 68A household 12/12 - 329 Sixth Ave Bowles, James B. - head, W M (birth month unknown) 1838, 62, md 24 yrs, born PA, father born PA, mother born MD, school teacher Bowles, Mary L. - wife, W F born Sep 1844, 55, 5 children/4 living, born MD, father born MD, mother born PA Bowles, Crawford - son, W M born Apr 1878, 22, single, born PA, at school Bowles, Kyle - son, W M born Jun 1880, 19, single, born PA, learning a trade Bowles, Jane - daughter, W F born Sep 1882, 17, single, born PA, at school Bowles, Chester - son, W M born Feb 1886, 14, single, born PA, at school We have identified at least three sisters of James B. Bowles. In the 1880 census above, a Maggie E. Bowles is identified as his sister. In the bios whose links are given above, we learn of Catherine Bowles who married W.W. Osborne, and of a Jane Osborne Jordan also identified as a sister. For Catherine Bowles Osborne, look to these pages: http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/blair/bios/sell/mil-par.txt http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/BOWLES/2003-03/1049145606 Since we found James in 1860 in his sister's household along with Crawford Bowles (shown below), we believe it is safe to assume that Crawford was his brother. 1860 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Logan Township, Altoona PO, page 404A household 1058/1031 W. W. Osburn - 30 M, teacher, born PA Catharine Osburn - 23 F, born PA Crawford Osburn - 2 M, born PA George Osburn - 10/12 M, born PA James Bowles - 25 M, teacher, born PA Crawford Bowles - 21 M, teacher, born PA We find Crawford in 1870, married to Jennie. 1870 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Altoona Ward 3, page 90B household 130/137 Boals, Crawford B. - 29 M W, clerk at store, born PA Boals, Jennie E. - 31 F W, keeping house, born PA Boals, Mary - 2 F W, at home, born PA Boals, Jessie - 6/12 F W, at home, born in January in PA McKee, Maggie - 19 F W, at home, born in PA To learn more about Crawford Bowles' wife Jennie, go to... http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/blair/bios/sell/goo-hes.txt Thus we have the following line ... 1 John Bowles of Scotland + ?? 2 Robert Bowles + Jane Ross 3 James B. Bowles 3 Crawford B. Bowles 3 Catherine Bowles + W. W. Osborne 3 Maggie E. Bowles 3 Jane Bowles (identified as Jane Osborne Jordan) Can anyone fill in this line more?

This is terrific. Thank you so much. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Hartley" <hartley@iglou.com> To: <bowles@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [BOWLES] James B. Bowles, Blair County PA > Additiional information... > > 1910 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Altoona Ward 8, page 180A > household 56/60 > Bowles, James - head, M W 71, md 33 yrs, born PA, father born PA, mother > born PA, school teacher > Bowles, Mary - wife, F W 65, 5 children/4 living, born MD, parents born MD > Bowles, Kyle H. - son, M W 31, single, born PA, machine shop laborer > Bowles, Bessie - daughter, F W 25, single, born PA > Bowles, Chester W. - son, M W 23, single, born PA, music dealer salesman > > WWI Registration Card > Chester Wilson Bowles, b. 26 Feb 1886; married to Pearl Beatrice Bowles. > Kyle Haggerty Bowles, b. 30 Jun 1889; (married to Hope M. Fuller per 1930 > Baltimore census) > > Chester Wilson Bowles, 1948 (Juniata), son of Prof. James and Mary Beeler > Bowles, husband of Pearl Comstock. > from http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/BOWLES/2004-03/1080635892 > > Chester, Pearl, and their son Chester Jr. (still born in 1914) are all > buried in the Rose Hill Cemetery in Blair County. Chester Sr. died on 17 > Mar > 1948; Pearl died in Dec 1976. > >>From the "Find A Grave" online index: > > Fairview Cemetery in Altoona, Blair County, Pennsylvania: > > Pvt James Bell Bowles: S/O Robert & Jane (Ross) Bowles. Pvt., Co. A, 125th > Regt., Pa.Vol.Inf., Civil War veteran. Ret. school teacher. Lafferty & > Tobias Funeral Home, Altoona, Pa. > Birth: Oct. 13, 1835, Huntingdon, Huntingdon County, Pennsylvania, USA > Death: Nov. 4, 1915, Altoona, Blair County, Pennsylvania, USA > > Jane Ross Bowles > Birth: Jan. 22, 1800, Pennsylvania, USA > Death: Jul. 23, 1871, Pennsylvania, USA > Robert Bowles, spouse. > > Pvt Crawford Black Bowles: S/O Robert & Jane (Ross) Bowles. Pvt., Co. H, > 92nd Illinois Vol. Inf., Civil War veteran. Ret. merchant. Lafferty & > Tobias > Funeral Home, Altoona, Pa. > Birth: Jan. 13, 1838, Pennsylvania, USA > Death: Sep. 15, 1918, Altoona, Blair County, Pennsylvania, USA > > Jennie E. Bowles > Birth: 1839 > Death: Jul. 12, 1872, Pennsylvania, USA > Crawford B. Bowles, spouse. > > Dr Crawford M. Bowles > Birth: 1878, Pennsylvania, USA > Death: Apr., 1962, USA > Elsie May (Bible) Bowles, spouse. > > Elsie May Bible Bowles > Birth: 1886 > Death: Jul., 1946, USA > Dr. Crawford M. Bowles, spouse. > > James Ross Bowles > Birth: 1876, Pennsylvania, USA > Death: Jan., 1885, Pennsylvania, USA > > Margaret E. "Maggie" Bowles > Birth: 1827 > Death: Nov. 12, 1895, Altoona, Blair County, Pennsylvania, USA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOWLES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

This seems to be my ancestors except I do not have a James Bowles. You would think it would be in the 1850 Census in Pennsylvania with his parents and brothers and sisters. Since he started teaching at age 16, maybe he was away from home. I have Margeret b. 1828; Robert b. 19 Sep 1829 PA d. 29 Oct 1903 Livingston Co., MO wife Caroline Miller (They were both buried in Missouri. I have a picture of their gravestone; Ross b 1831 PA; Catharine b 1833 PA; Bella b 1834 PA; Crawford b 1830 PA. ( also have an Eleanor Bowles b. 1821 MD.I am not sure where I got that information). The children of Robert and Caroline Bowles are: Louisa Belle b. 1856 PA; Elma 1860 PA; Allie b. 1863 PA; Addie Jane b. 1870 (my grandmother) MO; Scott 1873 MO. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Hartley" <hartley@iglou.com> To: <bowles@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 1:02 PM Subject: [BOWLES] James B. Bowles, Blair County PA > James B. Bowles is described on three different pages, which are generally > in agreement with one another (with a few exceptions). You should view > each > page. > > http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/blair/bios/jnt/bowlesjbpen.txt > http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/blair/bios/wiley/wiley09.txt > http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/blair/bios/sell/bo-bu.txt > >>From those pages we learn that James was a son of Robert and Jane (Ross) > Bowles, and that his grandfather was a John Bowles from Scotland. > > I've found James with his wife and family in the 1880 and 1900 censuses as > shown below. > > 1880 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Logan Township, page 426C > household 93/99 > Bowles, Jas. B. - W M 36, teacher, born PA, father born PA, mother born MD > Bowles, Mary L. - W F 31, wife, keeping house, born MD, father born MD, > mother born PA > Bowles, Ross - W M 3, son, born PA > Bowles, Crawford M. - W M 2, son, born PA > Bowles, Maggie E. - W F 45, sister, single, keeping house, born PA, father > born PA, mother born MD > > 1900 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Altoona Ward 8, page 68A > household 12/12 - 329 Sixth Ave > Bowles, James B. - head, W M (birth month unknown) 1838, 62, md 24 yrs, > born > PA, father born PA, mother born MD, school teacher > Bowles, Mary L. - wife, W F born Sep 1844, 55, 5 children/4 living, born > MD, > father born MD, mother born PA > Bowles, Crawford - son, W M born Apr 1878, 22, single, born PA, at school > Bowles, Kyle - son, W M born Jun 1880, 19, single, born PA, learning a > trade > Bowles, Jane - daughter, W F born Sep 1882, 17, single, born PA, at school > Bowles, Chester - son, W M born Feb 1886, 14, single, born PA, at school > > We have identified at least three sisters of James B. Bowles. In the 1880 > census above, a Maggie E. Bowles is identified as his sister. In the bios > whose links are given above, we learn of Catherine Bowles who married W.W. > Osborne, and of a Jane Osborne Jordan also identified as a sister. > > For Catherine Bowles Osborne, look to these pages: > > http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/blair/bios/sell/mil-par.txt > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/BOWLES/2003-03/1049145606 > > Since we found James in 1860 in his sister's household along with Crawford > Bowles (shown below), we believe it is safe to assume that Crawford was > his > brother. > > 1860 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Logan Township, Altoona > PO, > page 404A > household 1058/1031 > W. W. Osburn - 30 M, teacher, born PA > Catharine Osburn - 23 F, born PA > Crawford Osburn - 2 M, born PA > George Osburn - 10/12 M, born PA > James Bowles - 25 M, teacher, born PA > Crawford Bowles - 21 M, teacher, born PA > > We find Crawford in 1870, married to Jennie. > > 1870 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Altoona Ward 3, page 90B > household 130/137 > Boals, Crawford B. - 29 M W, clerk at store, born PA > Boals, Jennie E. - 31 F W, keeping house, born PA > Boals, Mary - 2 F W, at home, born PA > Boals, Jessie - 6/12 F W, at home, born in January in PA > McKee, Maggie - 19 F W, at home, born in PA > > To learn more about Crawford Bowles' wife Jennie, go to... > > http://files.usgwarchives.org/pa/blair/bios/sell/goo-hes.txt > > Thus we have the following line ... > > 1 John Bowles of Scotland > + ?? > 2 Robert Bowles > + Jane Ross > 3 James B. Bowles > 3 Crawford B. Bowles > 3 Catherine Bowles > + W. W. Osborne > 3 Maggie E. Bowles > 3 Jane Bowles (identified as Jane Osborne Jordan) > > Can anyone fill in this line more? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOWLES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

As long as you reply to the list, we all get it. If you get to the point where you want to talk with just the two of us then cut and paste our addresses into the "To" line in a new message. On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:36 AM, Don and Mary <dande5604@cox.net> wrote: > This is very confusing, I agree. I do not have James or Jane as siblings > for Catharine. I am trying to figure out if I reply to you, if it goes to > Linnie. Or, do I need to reply through the bowles@ rootsweb.com so that > both of you get the info or questions. > Thanks so much. > Mary > >

This is getting more confusing by the minute. According to the page at http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/blair/bios/wiley/wiley09.txt a James B. Bowles was born at Concord, Franklin County, Pennsylvania, October 13, 1839 to Robert and Jane (Ross) Bowles. This Robert Bowles was born in Franklin County in 1796 and resided upon a farm in Fulton county, where he died at the age of fifty-two years which would mean that he died about 1848 (if this is right). He was a son of John Bowles who was born in Scotland. According to this page, Robert married Jane Ross in 1817. She was a native of Maryland, daughter of Samuel Ross. However, according to the page at http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/blair/bios/sell/bo-bu.txt Robert Bowles was born in Franklin County in 1796 and died in 1856. Now according to the page at http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/BOWLES/2003-03/1049145606 James B. Bowles had at least two sisters: Catherine Bowles Osborne and Jane Osborne Jordan. "Catherine Bowles, born 1834 in 'Concord, Franklin/Fulton County', PA, daughter of Robert Bowles (1796) and Jane Ross. Robert Bowles was son of John Bowles (John was born in Scotland). Catherine is known to have had at least one brother, James B. Bowles, also living in Altoona. James was a civil war vet, and was at the battle of Chancelorsville; and one sister, Jane Osborne Jordan." This last seems to agree with the census record below. 1860 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Logan Township, Altoona PO, page 404A household 1058/1031 W. W. Osburn - 30 M, teacher, born PA Catharine Osburn - 23 F, born PA Crawford Osburn - 2 M, born PA George Osburn - 10/12 M, born PA James Bowles - 25 M, teacher, born PA Crawford Bowles - 21 M, teacher, born PA I'll think about this some more later.

This is very confusing, I agree. I do not have James or Jane as siblings for Catharine. I am trying to figure out if I reply to you, if it goes to Linnie. Or, do I need to reply through the bowles@ rootsweb.com so that both of you get the info or questions. Thanks so much. Mary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Hartley" <hartley@iglou.com> To: <bowles@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 7:37 AM Subject: [BOWLES] Bowles of Pennsylvania > This is getting more confusing by the minute. > > According to the page at > http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/blair/bios/wiley/wiley09.txt a James B. > Bowles was born at Concord, Franklin County, Pennsylvania, October 13, > 1839 > to Robert and Jane (Ross) Bowles. > > This Robert Bowles was born in Franklin County in 1796 and resided upon a > farm in Fulton county, where he died at the age of fifty-two years which > would mean that he died about 1848 (if this is right). He was a son of > John > Bowles who was born in Scotland. > > According to this page, Robert married Jane Ross in 1817. She was a native > of Maryland, daughter of Samuel Ross. > > However, according to the page at > http://files.usgwarchives.net/pa/blair/bios/sell/bo-bu.txt Robert Bowles > was > born in Franklin County in 1796 and died in 1856. > > Now according to the page at > http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/BOWLES/2003-03/1049145606 James > B. > Bowles had at least two sisters: Catherine Bowles Osborne and Jane Osborne > Jordan. > > "Catherine Bowles, born 1834 in 'Concord, Franklin/Fulton County', PA, > daughter of Robert Bowles (1796) and Jane Ross. Robert Bowles was son of > John Bowles (John was born in Scotland). Catherine is known to have had at > least one brother, James B. Bowles, also living in Altoona. James was a > civil war vet, and was at the battle of Chancelorsville; and one sister, > Jane Osborne Jordan." > > This last seems to agree with the census record below. > > 1860 Federal Census: Pennsylvania, Blair County, Logan Township, Altoona > PO, > page 404A > household 1058/1031 > W. W. Osburn - 30 M, teacher, born PA > Catharine Osburn - 23 F, born PA > Crawford Osburn - 2 M, born PA > George Osburn - 10/12 M, born PA > James Bowles - 25 M, teacher, born PA > Crawford Bowles - 21 M, teacher, born PA > > I'll think about this some more later. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BOWLES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >