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    1. [Bowles] Re: Photo for https://groups.io/g/Bowles-Genealogy ?
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Since Rootsweb does not allow attachments, I will follow up with Brenda privately. Thank you Brenda! Valorie On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 12:09 AM Brenda Ballard Pflaum via BOWLES < bowles@rootsweb.com> wrote: > Valorie, > I'll attach a photo of Benjamin Bowles' grave in Montgomery Co., NC. He is > my earliest identified Bowles ancestor and served in the Revolutionary War > (my DAR membership is based on his service). This gravestone recognizes his > service. > Feel free to use this on the group page. I may have some other photos > relevant to Bowles genealogy. I'll look when I have more time. > > Brenda Ballard Pflaum > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> > To: Bowles genealogy and family history research <bowles@rootsweb.com>; > Bowles-Genealogy <Bowles-Genealogy@groups.io> > Sent: Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:14 pm > Subject: [Bowles] Photo for https://groups.io/g/Bowles-Genealogy ? > > Hi folks, I've not done much Bowles research, so I don't have a likely > photo or image of a document for our front page, > https://groups.io/g/Bowles-Genealogy . If you have a wonderful old > ancestor > photo, or other interesting image, please attach it to an email to me at > valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com and tell me what it is, and I'll post it. > > The images are easy to change, so if this seems fun, we can do that every > few months. > > All the best, > > Valorie >

    01/20/2020 01:45:29
    1. [Bowles] Re: Photo for https://groups.io/g/Bowles-Genealogy ?
    2. Brenda Ballard Pflaum
    3. Valorie,  I'll attach a photo of Benjamin Bowles' grave in Montgomery Co., NC. He is my earliest identified Bowles ancestor and served in the Revolutionary War (my DAR membership is based on his service). This gravestone recognizes his service.  Feel free to use this on the group page.  I may have some other photos relevant to Bowles genealogy. I'll look when I have more time.  Brenda Ballard Pflaum -----Original Message----- From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> To: Bowles genealogy and family history research <bowles@rootsweb.com>; Bowles-Genealogy <Bowles-Genealogy@groups.io> Sent: Fri, Jan 17, 2020 11:14 pm Subject: [Bowles] Photo for https://groups.io/g/Bowles-Genealogy ? Hi folks, I've not done much Bowles research, so I don't have a likely photo or image of a document for our front page, https://groups.io/g/Bowles-Genealogy . If you have a wonderful old ancestor photo, or other interesting image, please attach it to an email to me at valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com and tell me what it is, and I'll post it. The images are easy to change, so if this seems fun, we can do that every few months. All the best, Valorie _______________________________________________ Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowles@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    01/18/2020 06:52:09
    1. [Bowles] Photo for https://groups.io/g/Bowles-Genealogy ?
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Hi folks, I've not done much Bowles research, so I don't have a likely photo or image of a document for our front page, https://groups.io/g/Bowles-Genealogy . If you have a wonderful old ancestor photo, or other interesting image, please attach it to an email to me at valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com and tell me what it is, and I'll post it. The images are easy to change, so if this seems fun, we can do that every few months. All the best, Valorie

    01/17/2020 09:14:02
    1. [Bowles] Re: This list is going away
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. Hello again, Bowles list members. My request for a new group was quickly approved and invitations are now in your mailboxes. Remember, *this* list is unchanged until 2 March 2020. Please post here so that your information can be found in the Rootsweb list archives. Posts to Bowles-genealogy@groups.io before 2 March 2020 will be tests, and removed before we go public on that date. Valorie On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 10:57 PM lindac1 <lindac1@hughes.net> wrote: > Wherever the move is to I'll be there. >

    01/12/2020 12:22:14
    1. [Bowles] Re: This list is going away
    2. lindac1
    3. Wherever the move is to I'll be there.

    01/10/2020 11:57:00
    1. [Bowles] Re: This list is going away
    2. Annette Bowen
    3. Valorie, One of my more active lists just transferred to groups.io. I hate to see the lists go away even though several of the ones I belong to are not very active. Some of the yahoo groups that my husband had joined also moved to groups.io. I haven't enough experience with them to recommend them but that is an option. Annette On Thu, Jan 9, 2020 at 9:14 PM Valorie Zimmerman < valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: > I am shocked about this. We've been sharing information and helping one > another on this list for over 20 years. If you don't believe it, see > https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/bowles.rootsweb.com/1998/1/. > Thank > you subscribers and contributors over the years. > > Here is the text of the announcement to all of us listowners: > > Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After > > that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on > > RootsWeb. > > As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are > a > > great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message > > boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. > > Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this > > community. > > Sincerely, > > The RootsWeb team > > > Our Message Board is quite useful: > https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.bowles/mb.ashx. There are 2290 > messages on it! I urge you to use it, and all the boards, especially > because you can upload photos and other images to the boards, which are not > available here on the list. Usually posting to the Locality board is most > useful, by the way. > > We do have the option to create a list elsewhere, and I'm willing to do > that, if subscribers want that. Groups.io and Google Groups seem the most > likely option. > > Here is an example of a Groups.io mail list: > https://groups.io/g/newzealand/ > | Google Groups: > https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/1720cowanimmigrant > > *If you are interested, please respond.* If not, that's fine too. > > I'll miss you here, no matter what the future holds. > > Valorie > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowles@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    01/10/2020 03:57:27
    1. [Bowles] Re: BOWLES Digest, Vol 13, Issue 4
    2. Bbrock1945
    3. Please continue the list elsewhere!  So appreciate all you do! -----Original Message----- From: bowles-request <bowles-request@rootsweb.com> To: bowles <bowles@rootsweb.com> Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 3:07 am Subject: BOWLES Digest, Vol 13, Issue 4 Send BOWLES mailing list submissions to bowles@rootsweb.com To subscribe via email send a message with subject subscribe and body subscribe to bowles-request@rootsweb.com To unsubscribe via email send a message with subject unsubscribe and body unsubscribe to bowles-request@rootsweb.com You can reach the person managing the list at bowles-owner@rootsweb.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of BOWLES digest..." Today's Topics:   1. This list is going away (Valorie Zimmerman) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2020 19:02:02 -0800 From: Valorie Zimmerman <valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> Subject: [Bowles] This list is going away To: bowles@rootsweb.com Message-ID:     <CACpu026VJkYAuqEwnv2t+fWN0wgKppWbN4v6fgf8rozHS4CvAg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I am shocked about this. We've been sharing information and helping one another on this list for over 20 years. If you don't believe it, see https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/bowles.rootsweb.com/1998/1/. Thank you subscribers and contributors over the years. Here is the text of the announcement to all of us listowners: Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After > that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on > RootsWeb. > As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a > great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message > boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. > Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this > community. > Sincerely, > The RootsWeb team Our Message Board is quite useful: https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.bowles/mb.ashx. There are 2290 messages on it! I urge you to use it, and all the boards, especially because you can upload photos and other images to the boards, which are not available here on the list. Usually posting to the Locality board is most useful, by the way. We do have the option to create a list elsewhere, and I'm willing to do that, if subscribers want that. Groups.io and Google Groups seem the most likely option. Here is an example of a Groups.io mail list: https://groups.io/g/newzealand/ | Google Groups: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/1720cowanimmigrant *If you are interested, please respond.* If not, that's fine too. I'll miss you here, no matter what the future holds. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her End of BOWLES Digest, Vol 13, Issue 4 *************************************

    01/10/2020 03:46:21
    1. [Bowles] This list is going away
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. I am shocked about this. We've been sharing information and helping one another on this list for over 20 years. If you don't believe it, see https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/bowles.rootsweb.com/1998/1/. Thank you subscribers and contributors over the years. Here is the text of the announcement to all of us listowners: Administrators may save the emails in their list prior to March 2nd. After > that, mailing list archives will remain available and searchable on > RootsWeb. > As an alternative to RootsWeb Mailing Lists, Ancestry message boards are a > great option to network with others in the genealogy community. Message > boards are available for free with an Ancestry registered account. > Thank you for being part of the RootsWeb family and contributing to this > community. > Sincerely, > The RootsWeb team Our Message Board is quite useful: https://www.ancestry.com/boards/surnames.bowles/mb.ashx. There are 2290 messages on it! I urge you to use it, and all the boards, especially because you can upload photos and other images to the boards, which are not available here on the list. Usually posting to the Locality board is most useful, by the way. We do have the option to create a list elsewhere, and I'm willing to do that, if subscribers want that. Groups.io and Google Groups seem the most likely option. Here is an example of a Groups.io mail list: https://groups.io/g/newzealand/ | Google Groups: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/1720cowanimmigrant *If you are interested, please respond.* If not, that's fine too. I'll miss you here, no matter what the future holds. Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her

    01/09/2020 08:02:02
    1. [Bowles] Re: bowles family
    2. Annette Bowen
    3. Shirley, I can't help with recent generations but I can help with your great-grandmother's siblings and most of their children. Findagrave.com shows the tombstones of Ben F Bowles in Walters, OK, and H. S. "Si" Bowles in Rockwall. Their father was Emma's brother, Harry Grant Bowles. Here is the obit of Sheriff Jim Bowles. https://www.resthavenfuneral.com/obituaries/James-Bowles-5/#!/Obituary It says his father was Karl Augustus Bowles, whose tombstone is shown on findagrave. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/12169926/karl-augustus-bowles His father was Thomas Jefferson Bowles who was born in Georgia, so I doubt that the sheriff is your cousin, even thought his funeral was in Rockwall. Emma Augustus Bowles was the daughter of Bradford Harrison Bowles and Catherine Thorpe. They came to Texas from Illinois. Bradford's parents were from Virginia. (The Harrisons lived in the part that became West Virginia.) I don't know of any of this branch of Bowles in Georgia. The ones who left Virginia went to Kentucky, Tennessee, and Mississippi. Bradford Bowles and his family moved from KY to Illinois and did not come to Texas until after the 1870 census. His brother Watson Bowles was in Texas before 1850 and served in the Texas Cavalry during the Civil War. Bradford was in the Union Army. I think both Bradford and Watson were considered founders of Rockwall. Annette Bowen My great-grandmother was a Bowles. On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 8:24 PM Valorie Zimmerman < valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:33 AM Shirl D <singingpiano@att.net> wrote: > > > > > > > I am trying to find my relatives from Rockwall. My great-grandmother was > > Emma Augustus Bowles Clark. My mother was Ella Faye Clark Stewart. I > met > > Si Bowles (possibly Silas) at a reunion in about 1958-1959. I met his > > brother, Ben Bowles and was told about many siblings. My mother told me > > Harry Bowles gave the property for the building of the town square. My > not > > be fact! I want to begin this search. I believe Jim Bowles, Sheriff of > > Dallas County, may be my cousin. He passed away in 2018 and that’s when I > > began asking questions. Could you help me in any way to get started? > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Shirley Stewart Reasor > > > > singingpiano@att.net > > > > Hi Shirl, you sent this to the listowner address, so it didn't reach the > list. I'm an assistant to the Listowner and not researching Bowles, but my > advice is to find obituaries, and then follow up with the information given > to prove it. They can't be trusted entirely. > > There are two pay sites that are great: Newspapers.com and GenealogyBank. > You may be able to access them via your local public library or a Family > History Center. I can use newspaperarchive.com at home using my King > County > Library system. I just have to put in my library card number! > https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov is free for all, all the time. It does > end in 1963. > > I've cc'd the list so list members might have more advice for you. > > All the best, > > Valorie > > -- > http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowles@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    08/28/2019 11:32:04
    1. [Bowles] Re: bowles family
    2. Valorie Zimmerman
    3. On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 11:33 AM Shirl D <singingpiano@att.net> wrote: > > > I am trying to find my relatives from Rockwall. My great-grandmother was > Emma Augustus Bowles Clark. My mother was Ella Faye Clark Stewart. I met > Si Bowles (possibly Silas) at a reunion in about 1958-1959. I met his > brother, Ben Bowles and was told about many siblings. My mother told me > Harry Bowles gave the property for the building of the town square. My not > be fact! I want to begin this search. I believe Jim Bowles, Sheriff of > Dallas County, may be my cousin. He passed away in 2018 and that’s when I > began asking questions. Could you help me in any way to get started? > > > > Regards, > > Shirley Stewart Reasor > > singingpiano@att.net > Hi Shirl, you sent this to the listowner address, so it didn't reach the list. I'm an assistant to the Listowner and not researching Bowles, but my advice is to find obituaries, and then follow up with the information given to prove it. They can't be trusted entirely. There are two pay sites that are great: Newspapers.com and GenealogyBank. You may be able to access them via your local public library or a Family History Center. I can use newspaperarchive.com at home using my King County Library system. I just have to put in my library card number! https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov is free for all, all the time. It does end in 1963. I've cc'd the list so list members might have more advice for you. All the best, Valorie -- http://about.me/valoriez - pronouns: she/her

    08/28/2019 07:24:06
    1. [Bowles] Re: BOWLES Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5
    2. Bob,I believe you have misread my message. It appears that my George W and the George T are 2 different people - born in 2 different places - with parents names that are similar. This isn't a case of parents giving 2 children the same name - which I have run across several times in my family.  In fact one of my paternal 3rd GGF's was named John Hall and he was still alive when his brother, also named John Hall was born about 10 years later (the 2nd John Hall dying in childhood). Thank you for your response though! Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2019 16:38:28 -0400 From: Bob <efr54321@gmail.com> Subject: [Bowles] Re: George W BOWLES c1844, Pittsylvania Co &     Washington Co., VA To: Bowles genealogy and family history research <bowles@rootsweb.com> Message-ID:     <CAK58O8LvhDNXrTkObvPAo5yQE7rCz_f5e4LxngGm9wPU_Q-CiA@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Cynthi, You did not mention the origin of the BOWLES name but it is frequently of the United Kingdom.  The age of your George is similar to my grandfather's and his Somerset parents followed a custom of the day which followed him his entire life.  If a child died it was common for the next child of the same sex to assume the name of the deceased.  Thus, my grandfather, George CLOSE appeared in most records as Fred.  Another coincidence is that he never knew his correct age.  He was a year older than he always reported. I have the malady as well.  My middle name is Frederick after George, who was called Fred because Fred was dead! Bob On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 3:15 PM i2luvlucy--- via BOWLES <bowles@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I apologize as this may be a long message for some. > For many years, on and off, I have struggled in finding the parents of my > 3rd GGF, George W Bowles who was allegedly born in Pittsylvania Co., VA. > > The above info according to George's marriage record of 29 Jan 1867 in > Washington Co., VA where he married Martha Ann Merritt.  This document also > names his parents as William A and Martha A Bowles. > Due to documents found through Ancestry, I and several other researchers > had come to the conclusion that George W Bowles was the son of William A & > Martha Ann Drumwright Bowles of Goochland Co., VA. > The 1850 Goochland Co. census lists this family as follows:Name: George > Bowles Age: 8  /  Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Birth Place: Virginia  / > Gender: Male Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Goochland, Virginia Family > Number: 226 Household Members: Name Age William Bowles 43 Anne Bowles > 0 Austina L Bowles 18 William W Bowles 12 Ellen Bowles 10 George Bowles > 8 Lucinda Bowles 6 Elizabeth Bowles 5 Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census > Place:  , Goochland, Virginia; Roll  M432_946; Page: 116B; Image: 233. > > This George found in the 1850 has a birth year of *1842*.  The George > Bowles of the Washington Co. marriage record has a birth year of *1844*. > Keep this in mind - FLAG # 1 > > Through further research and spending the last several weeks (and many, > many hours) transcribing Chancery records, I have found something that > would seem to indicate that 1844 George W Bowles and 1842 George Bowles are > 2 different people.  If this is correct, this would nullify the parents of > George W Bowles as being William A & Martha Ann Drumwright Bowles. > > In a Goochland Co., VA Chancery record (that can be found on the LVA site; > recorded wrong as 1868 and should be 1858), the children of Ann Drumwright > Bowles are suing the estate of their mother in order to divide the land, > and a slave, left to her by her father between the children. > (Hopefully this link takes you directly to that specific Chancery record: > https://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/case_detail.asp?CFN=075-1868-002) > > In this record a George Bowles is listed many times, along with his > siblings.  However, he is represented as George *T* Bowles - and not as > George *W* Bowles. > > The other issue regarding this Chancery record that has me a bit perplexed > is that the 2 youngest children (daughters of Ann Drumwright Bowles) are > appointed a Guardian ad Litem as they are under 21 years of age - this > being the Lucinda & Elizabeth above as identified in the 1850 census. > Their mother died sometime before Aug. 1858 in Goochland Co.  As you can > see from the above census record, most all of the children were under the > age of 21 and not of "legal age" in those days, yet the older children > portrayed themselves of legal age - including George. > > Now we all know that census records can be off and that some folks really > didn't remember their birth year, or they fibbed because they didn't want > anyone to know their real age.  But if George *T* Bowles of Goochland was > really over 21 - 6 years is a large gap to fill where that is concerned. > > George *T* Bowles' parents were married in Goochland on 21 Mar 1831. > Their 1st child, "Austina" (actually Justina) was born within a year of > their marriage.  There is a large gap between the 1st and 2nd child, > indicating that there were possibly other births where the child (or > children) didn't live past infancy or early childhood.  The rest of the > children born within 2 years of each other.  What I'm inferring from this > is that the children's ages seem to be consistent and could be off a year > either way - but I believe that George *T* portraying himself to be of > legal age is pushing it.  Then again, who was going to question it and how > would it have been proven? > > From the marriage of William A Bowles & Ann Drumwright in Goochland to the > census of 1850 taken in Goochland (as well as the 1840), it would appear > that George *T* Bowles was born in Goochland Co. and not in Pittsylvania - > FLAG #2 > > Remember George *W* Bowles' marriage document listed his mother as Martha > Ann Bowles. > > Another chancery record for George *T's* maternal Grandfather, George > Drumwright, names his children:  Ann, Nancy, Catherine, Milley, Martha B., > DeGrasse, & James.  NOTE:  Ann is NOT Martha Ann and she has a sister named > Martha B.  -  FLAG # 3 > *1842* George & *1844* George - the alleged birth years I can ignore. > What I can't ignore are the other 2 flags. > > I'm looking for any info that can confirm that these are 2 different > George's or that they are one in the same. > > George *W* Bowles resided the rest of his life in Washington Co., VA, > dying there sometime before 22 Oct 1900.  After his death his wife and 2 of > his children removed to Warren Co., IL from Washington Co., VA. > > Any help is greatly appreciated! > Cynthi Hall Driscoll > Vinton, VA > i2luvlucy@aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowles@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community > End of BOWLES Digest, Vol 12, Issue 5 *************************************

    08/25/2019 06:08:35
    1. [Bowles] Re: George W BOWLES c1844, Pittsylvania Co & Washington Co., VA
    2. Bob
    3. Cynthi, You did not mention the origin of the BOWLES name but it is frequently of the United Kingdom. The age of your George is similar to my grandfather's and his Somerset parents followed a custom of the day which followed him his entire life. If a child died it was common for the next child of the same sex to assume the name of the deceased. Thus, my grandfather, George CLOSE appeared in most records as Fred. Another coincidence is that he never knew his correct age. He was a year older than he always reported. I have the malady as well. My middle name is Frederick after George, who was called Fred because Fred was dead! Bob On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 3:15 PM i2luvlucy--- via BOWLES <bowles@rootsweb.com> wrote: > I apologize as this may be a long message for some. > For many years, on and off, I have struggled in finding the parents of my > 3rd GGF, George W Bowles who was allegedly born in Pittsylvania Co., VA. > > The above info according to George's marriage record of 29 Jan 1867 in > Washington Co., VA where he married Martha Ann Merritt. This document also > names his parents as William A and Martha A Bowles. > Due to documents found through Ancestry, I and several other researchers > had come to the conclusion that George W Bowles was the son of William A & > Martha Ann Drumwright Bowles of Goochland Co., VA. > The 1850 Goochland Co. census lists this family as follows:Name: George > Bowles Age: 8 / Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Birth Place: Virginia / > Gender: Male Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Goochland, Virginia Family > Number: 226 Household Members: Name Age William Bowles 43 Anne Bowles > 0 Austina L Bowles 18 William W Bowles 12 Ellen Bowles 10 George Bowles > 8 Lucinda Bowles 6 Elizabeth Bowles 5 Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census > Place: , Goochland, Virginia; Roll M432_946; Page: 116B; Image: 233. > > This George found in the 1850 has a birth year of *1842*. The George > Bowles of the Washington Co. marriage record has a birth year of *1844*. > Keep this in mind - FLAG # 1 > > Through further research and spending the last several weeks (and many, > many hours) transcribing Chancery records, I have found something that > would seem to indicate that 1844 George W Bowles and 1842 George Bowles are > 2 different people. If this is correct, this would nullify the parents of > George W Bowles as being William A & Martha Ann Drumwright Bowles. > > In a Goochland Co., VA Chancery record (that can be found on the LVA site; > recorded wrong as 1868 and should be 1858), the children of Ann Drumwright > Bowles are suing the estate of their mother in order to divide the land, > and a slave, left to her by her father between the children. > (Hopefully this link takes you directly to that specific Chancery record: > https://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/case_detail.asp?CFN=075-1868-002) > > In this record a George Bowles is listed many times, along with his > siblings. However, he is represented as George *T* Bowles - and not as > George *W* Bowles. > > The other issue regarding this Chancery record that has me a bit perplexed > is that the 2 youngest children (daughters of Ann Drumwright Bowles) are > appointed a Guardian ad Litem as they are under 21 years of age - this > being the Lucinda & Elizabeth above as identified in the 1850 census. > Their mother died sometime before Aug. 1858 in Goochland Co. As you can > see from the above census record, most all of the children were under the > age of 21 and not of "legal age" in those days, yet the older children > portrayed themselves of legal age - including George. > > Now we all know that census records can be off and that some folks really > didn't remember their birth year, or they fibbed because they didn't want > anyone to know their real age. But if George *T* Bowles of Goochland was > really over 21 - 6 years is a large gap to fill where that is concerned. > > George *T* Bowles' parents were married in Goochland on 21 Mar 1831. > Their 1st child, "Austina" (actually Justina) was born within a year of > their marriage. There is a large gap between the 1st and 2nd child, > indicating that there were possibly other births where the child (or > children) didn't live past infancy or early childhood. The rest of the > children born within 2 years of each other. What I'm inferring from this > is that the children's ages seem to be consistent and could be off a year > either way - but I believe that George *T* portraying himself to be of > legal age is pushing it. Then again, who was going to question it and how > would it have been proven? > > From the marriage of William A Bowles & Ann Drumwright in Goochland to the > census of 1850 taken in Goochland (as well as the 1840), it would appear > that George *T* Bowles was born in Goochland Co. and not in Pittsylvania - > FLAG #2 > > Remember George *W* Bowles' marriage document listed his mother as Martha > Ann Bowles. > > Another chancery record for George *T's* maternal Grandfather, George > Drumwright, names his children: Ann, Nancy, Catherine, Milley, Martha B., > DeGrasse, & James. NOTE: Ann is NOT Martha Ann and she has a sister named > Martha B. - FLAG # 3 > *1842* George & *1844* George - the alleged birth years I can ignore. > What I can't ignore are the other 2 flags. > > I'm looking for any info that can confirm that these are 2 different > George's or that they are one in the same. > > George *W* Bowles resided the rest of his life in Washington Co., VA, > dying there sometime before 22 Oct 1900. After his death his wife and 2 of > his children removed to Warren Co., IL from Washington Co., VA. > > Any help is greatly appreciated! > Cynthi Hall Driscoll > Vinton, VA > i2luvlucy@aol.com > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebpref > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowles@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: > https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9 > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb > community >

    08/25/2019 02:38:28
    1. [Bowles] George W BOWLES c1844, Pittsylvania Co & Washington Co., VA
    2. I apologize as this may be a long message for some. For many years, on and off, I have struggled in finding the parents of my 3rd GGF, George W Bowles who was allegedly born in Pittsylvania Co., VA.   The above info according to George's marriage record of 29 Jan 1867 in Washington Co., VA where he married Martha Ann Merritt.  This document also names his parents as William A and Martha A Bowles.  Due to documents found through Ancestry, I and several other researchers had come to the conclusion that George W Bowles was the son of William A & Martha Ann Drumwright Bowles of Goochland Co., VA. The 1850 Goochland Co. census lists this family as follows:Name: George Bowles Age: 8  /  Estimated birth year: abt 1842 Birth Place: Virginia  /  Gender: Male Home in 1850 (City,County,State): Goochland, Virginia Family Number: 226 Household Members: Name Age William Bowles 43 Anne Bowles 0 Austina L Bowles 18 William W Bowles 12 Ellen Bowles 10 George Bowles 8 Lucinda Bowles 6 Elizabeth Bowles 5 Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place:  , Goochland, Virginia; Roll  M432_946; Page: 116B; Image: 233. This George found in the 1850 has a birth year of *1842*.  The George Bowles of the Washington Co. marriage record has a birth year of *1844*.  Keep this in mind - FLAG # 1 Through further research and spending the last several weeks (and many, many hours) transcribing Chancery records, I have found something that would seem to indicate that 1844 George W Bowles and 1842 George Bowles are 2 different people.  If this is correct, this would nullify the parents of George W Bowles as being William A & Martha Ann Drumwright Bowles. In a Goochland Co., VA Chancery record (that can be found on the LVA site; recorded wrong as 1868 and should be 1858), the children of Ann Drumwright Bowles are suing the estate of their mother in order to divide the land, and a slave, left to her by her father between the children. (Hopefully this link takes you directly to that specific Chancery record:  https://www.lva.virginia.gov/chancery/case_detail.asp?CFN=075-1868-002) In this record a George Bowles is listed many times, along with his siblings.  However, he is represented as George *T* Bowles - and not as George *W* Bowles.   The other issue regarding this Chancery record that has me a bit perplexed is that the 2 youngest children (daughters of Ann Drumwright Bowles) are appointed a Guardian ad Litem as they are under 21 years of age - this being the Lucinda & Elizabeth above as identified in the 1850 census.  Their mother died sometime before Aug. 1858 in Goochland Co.  As you can see from the above census record, most all of the children were under the age of 21 and not of "legal age" in those days, yet the older children portrayed themselves of legal age - including George. Now we all know that census records can be off and that some folks really didn't remember their birth year, or they fibbed because they didn't want anyone to know their real age.  But if George *T* Bowles of Goochland was really over 21 - 6 years is a large gap to fill where that is concerned. George *T* Bowles' parents were married in Goochland on 21 Mar 1831.  Their 1st child, "Austina" (actually Justina) was born within a year of their marriage.  There is a large gap between the 1st and 2nd child, indicating that there were possibly other births where the child (or children) didn't live past infancy or early childhood.  The rest of the children born within 2 years of each other.  What I'm inferring from this is that the children's ages seem to be consistent and could be off a year either way - but I believe that George *T* portraying himself to be of legal age is pushing it.  Then again, who was going to question it and how would it have been proven? From the marriage of William A Bowles & Ann Drumwright in Goochland to the census of 1850 taken in Goochland (as well as the 1840), it would appear that George *T* Bowles was born in Goochland Co. and not in Pittsylvania - FLAG #2 Remember George *W* Bowles' marriage document listed his mother as Martha Ann Bowles.  Another chancery record for George *T's* maternal Grandfather, George Drumwright, names his children:  Ann, Nancy, Catherine, Milley, Martha B., DeGrasse, & James.  NOTE:  Ann is NOT Martha Ann and she has a sister named Martha B.  -  FLAG # 3 *1842* George & *1844* George - the alleged birth years I can ignore.  What I can't ignore are the other 2 flags. I'm looking for any info that can confirm that these are 2 different George's or that they are one in the same. George *W* Bowles resided the rest of his life in Washington Co., VA, dying there sometime before 22 Oct 1900.  After his death his wife and 2 of his children removed to Warren Co., IL from Washington Co., VA. Any help is greatly appreciated! Cynthi Hall Driscoll Vinton, VA i2luvlucy@aol.com

    08/25/2019 01:15:35
    1. [Bowles] Re: [BOWLES] Alma M. Boles m. Marvin Garlin Provence probably Sharp Co., AR
    2. Jennifer Beckman
    3. Hi Aubrey It's been 10 years since you made a post on rootsweb.com but it came up in my search results for a Provence. Did you find what you were looking for? Joseph Provence was my great great grandpa. -Jennifer (Provence) Beckman

    08/15/2019 11:20:52
    1. [Bowles] Bowles
    2. Lee Dewey
    3. Potter Bowles was my grand-father. He had no biological sons, but one biological daughter and one adopted daughter and one adopted son. He was my maternal grand-father. -- Lee Gardner Dewey

    05/10/2019 11:17:12
    1. [Bowles] Re: costs and access
    2. Thanks for the offer Bill but the site is not at all expensive. Buying the BowlesFamilyHistory.ca domain name wasn't too bad either. And that's it. I have my own publishing software so there aren't any ongoing expenses. Sometimes doing new research can be expensive when you just can't get at files overseas without hiring someone local to help but right now I'm just catching up on publishing my last 10 years of research. I probably have 2 years of work sitting here already that I just have to get up there. If I ever do switch back to solving some of my major roadblocks I may have to pass the hat around though. :) For cvanallen, you can just browse the domain name for my Home page but the page that I like to start people from is the New Additions page as it shows people what is new on the site and possibly they might see a subject in the new list that interests them. http://www.bowlesfamilyhistory.ca/new_additions.htm Some of the links on that page are to major research subjects and some are to pages with just a few research notes on them. Pages that say Under Construction are ones that I'm working on right now and should be checked again in a month or so. Tom ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 12:28:03 +1000 From: Billeye <billeye@optusnet.com.au> Subject: [Bowles] Bowles Website To: <bowles@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <7054638a-2073-2e42-7d60-16290ff3b7eb@optusnet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; format=flowed G'day Tom and all, Having no idea of the costs of storing your data, could we please have an estimate so as to consider whether members could donate to the cause. Perhaps first I should ask Tom whether this avenue is necessary or desired. Could we have your thoughts please Tom? Bill Melbourne, Oz ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 03:05:35 -0400 From: cvanallen@aol.com Subject: [Bowles] Re: web sites and Benjamin Bowles To: bowles@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <162fb9f2b49-c86-43c2@webjas-vae148.srv.aolmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 How do I access the website?

    04/25/2018 08:11:37
    1. [Bowles] Re: web sites and Benjamin Bowles
    2. How do I access the website? -----Original Message----- From: tlaporte <tlaporte@mymts.net> To: bowles <bowles@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tue, Apr 24, 2018 2:32 pm Subject: [Bowles] Re: web sites and Benjamin Bowles Hi Brenda Nice to hear from you again. Thanks for the compliment. It's great to be back publishing my Bowles Family History pages again. Lots more to come. Yes, I do have my full site on my own workstation and with an off-site backup. On Benjamin, sorry I don't do individual research. I just document as much Bowles family history as I can and make it available online as a resource for other people's research. Possibly Benjamin is on my site somewhere but you would have to look for him there. Best of luck! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 10:01:21 +0100 From: Brenda Paternoster <paternoster@appleshack.com> Subject: [Bowles] Re: Yes! Finally! To: Bowles genealogy and family history research <bowles@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <C8330967-FB06-4D4A-A84B-44EA8ECA8B5A@appleshack.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Tom Thanks for this, your website is by far the most authoritative and useful site for anyone interested in the Bowles surname. I agree with you that having your own website, albeit one that costs you for the storage, has to be a better option than one where you share space on another site. Even if your provider goes out of business you presumably now have it all on your own computer (and backed up!) and could migrate it elsewhere if necessary without too much difficulty. Regards Brenda ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:03:49 -0400 From: Marcy Feltenberger <mfeltnbrgr@aol.com> Subject: [Bowles] Re: Yes! Finally! To: bowles@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <162f41af3fb-c8b-132a2@webjas-vab001.srv.aolmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Benjamin Bowles is my ancestor that leads to his son David then to Jesse Sr and Jesse Jr and so forth. Would love to know info on him if you have it or know where to find it. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________Email preferences: http://bit.ly/rootswebprefUnsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/lists/bowles@rootsweb.com/Archives: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/bowles@rootsweb.com/Privacy Statement: https://ancstry.me/2JWBOdY Terms and Conditions: https://ancstry.me/2HDBym9RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    04/25/2018 01:05:35
    1. [Bowles] Re: web sites and Benjamin Bowles
    2. Hi Brenda Nice to hear from you again. Thanks for the compliment. It's great to be back publishing my Bowles Family History pages again. Lots more to come. Yes, I do have my full site on my own workstation and with an off-site backup. On Benjamin, sorry I don't do individual research. I just document as much Bowles family history as I can and make it available online as a resource for other people's research. Possibly Benjamin is on my site somewhere but you would have to look for him there. Best of luck! Tom ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 10:01:21 +0100 From: Brenda Paternoster <paternoster@appleshack.com> Subject: [Bowles] Re: Yes! Finally! To: Bowles genealogy and family history research <bowles@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <C8330967-FB06-4D4A-A84B-44EA8ECA8B5A@appleshack.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi Tom Thanks for this, your website is by far the most authoritative and useful site for anyone interested in the Bowles surname. I agree with you that having your own website, albeit one that costs you for the storage, has to be a better option than one where you share space on another site. Even if your provider goes out of business you presumably now have it all on your own computer (and backed up!) and could migrate it elsewhere if necessary without too much difficulty. Regards Brenda ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2018 16:03:49 -0400 From: Marcy Feltenberger <mfeltnbrgr@aol.com> Subject: [Bowles] Re: Yes! Finally! To: bowles@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <162f41af3fb-c8b-132a2@webjas-vab001.srv.aolmail.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Benjamin Bowles is my ancestor that leads to his son David then to Jesse Sr and Jesse Jr and so forth.  Would love to know info on him if you have it or know where to find it.  

    04/24/2018 03:31:37
    1. [Bowles] Re: Yes! Finally!
    2. Brenda Paternoster
    3. Hi Tom Thanks for this, your website is by far the most authoritative and useful site for anyone interested in the Bowles surname. I agree with you that having your own website, albeit one that costs you for the storage, has to be a better option than one where you share space on another site. Even if your provider goes out of business you presumably now have it all on your own computer (and backed up!) and could migrate it elsewhere if necessary without too much difficulty. Regards Brenda > > I agree about having to go on our own for our web sites now. I also decided that my Bowles in Canada and their Roots in England and Ireland site on rootsweb freepages was never going to come back so I have been migrating it to a pay site. The info is still free to everyone but I have to pay for the storage. It's required a lot of format conversions to get it up and running but hopefully will be worth it. About 1/2 the site is still under construction and many of the pages I've migrated still have bad links and some weird formats but it's coming. I also had 3 years of research to post to it which I was behind on even on the old site so it's a bit daunting. > > I had to provide my own domain name and amazingly BowlesFamilyHistory.ca was still available so I grabbed it. This has prompted me to expand my scope to a single surname study so while I'm still limiting myself to Canada, England and Ireland (and a very little US where it involved my own direct line) I've gone into Bowles lines other than my own. At this point I'm not sure I'm going to be able to keep that up but I'll try. > > The pages I've added on my new site which were not on my old rootsweb site are listed here: > > http://bowlesfamilyhistory.ca/new_additions.htm > > > Tom > Brenda in Allhallows paternoster@appleshack.com www.brendapaternoster.co.uk

    04/24/2018 03:01:21
    1. [Bowles] Re: Yes! Finally!
    2. My line is --- Benjamin, David, Jesse, David. Only info I have on Benjamin --- b. After 1700 – d. 1762. From: Marcy Feltenberger via BOWLES Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 3:04 PM To: bowles@rootsweb.com Cc: Marcy Feltenberger Subject: [Bowles] Re: Yes! Finally! Benjamin Bowles is my ancestor that leads to his son David then to Jesse Sr and Jesse Jr and so forth.  Would love to know info on him if you have it or know where to find it.   In a message dated 4/23/2018 12:37:06 PM Pacific Standard Time, tlaporte@mymts.net writes:   So glad to receive this news! Hello again Charles. It's been a while! Your site looks great. I agree about having to go on our own for our web sites now. I also decided that my Bowles in Canada and their Roots in England and Ireland site on rootsweb freepages was never going to come back so I have been migrating it to a pay site. The info is still free to everyone but I have to pay for the storage. It's required a lot of format conversions to get it up and running but hopefully will be worth it. About 1/2 the site is still under construction and many of the pages I've migrated still have bad links and some weird formats but it's coming. I also had 3 years of research to post to it which I was behind on even on the old site so it's a bit daunting. I had to provide my own domain name and amazingly BowlesFamilyHistory.ca was still available so I grabbed it. This has prompted me to expand my scope to a single surname study so while I'm still limiting myself to Canada, England and Ireland (and a very little US where it involved my own direct line) I've gone into Bowles lines other than my own. At this point I'm not sure I'm going to be able to keep that up but I'll try. The pages I've added on my new site which were not on my old rootsweb site are listed here: http://bowlesfamilyhistory.ca/new_additions.htm Tom _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:bowles-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/bowles@rootsweb.com/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ You are receiving this email because you have registered with RootsWeb Mailing Lists. Manage your email preferences at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/postorius/accounts/subscriptions/ To unsubscribe send an email to mailto:bowles-leave@rootsweb.com?subject=unsubscribe&body=unsubscribe View the archives for this list at: https://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/hyperkitty/list/bowles@rootsweb.com/ Your privacy is important to us. View our Privacy Statement at https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/privacystatement for more information. Use of RootsWeb is subject to our Terms and Conditions https://www.ancestry.com/cs/legal/termsandconditions RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

    04/23/2018 04:09:01