Marcy & All on the list, I didn't do the DNA test on Ancestry for a long time because Ancestry was gobbling up a lot of free genealogy sites and I wasn't to happy about it.  Genealogy has definitely changed over the years.  I made a lot of progress on my tree using our surname lists on Rootsweb which is now owned by Ancestry as well.  Hopefully they will stay free. I finally gave in and did the test.  What I've noticed about many of my matches on Ancestry and FTDNA, as you may have noticed Marcy, is many do not do a tree or have their tree locked.  It is often difficult to see where one matches without a tree.  The autosomal test, whichis the technical term, the connection can be on paternal or maternal lines.  A match can be on our grandmother's grandmother's line too!  So, I think those trees are important as an aid to identifying just where we link.  I'm not sure why a person tests and then doesn't do a tree unless they are beginners.  But I've not even had a beginner with no tree contact me.  Maybe some don't understand how the test works and that you still have to do the research.  If a tree is done on Ancestry, their program will point out which surnames are in common.  That can be a help.  I also have found that matches don't always reply to messages.  Ancestry has their own message system and quick replies depend on whether matches check their Ancestry account regularly.  FTDNA uses email addresses so is quicker.  A tree should be done on FTDNA also. A recent PBS Newshour online article explained the autosomal matching in an easy to understand analogy as follows: /".....it typically scans about 700,000 locations in your DNA code, otherwise called your genome. Think of your genome as a railway line, and these locations as train stations......genome has its own set of train stations, known as single nucleotide polymorphisms, and many overlap with my immediate family in a particular sequence.....Let’s say the first three stops on our genomes are Washington, D.C., Baltimore and Philadelphia. Meanwhile, my cousins are similar — Washington D.C., Baltimore and Pittsburgh — but not quite the same. Someone outside our family is totally off the tracks: New York City, New Haven and Boston...//By quantifying the length of these identical segments, we can basically infer the genealogical relationship between people..."/ FTDNA has a chromosome browser that allows one to see the DNA segments and the length of those segments of a match.  Ancestry does not have a chromosome browser.  Also, looking at the matches one shares with a match can be helpful. It might save money to do the Ancestry test first and then transferred the results to FTDNA for free.  I think FTDNA charges about $20 to use all their tools.  If you test on FTDNA, Ancestry does NOT allow a transfer.  Check out on both sites to be sure. Since I had are Bowers male relative do the yDNA test several years ago and administer that account, I was able to have the Family Finder test done on the same sample.  But since Ancestry does not allow transfers, I did the test there.  You can also put your results from either on GEDMatch.  Gedmatch is a public site, although most of us cannot read the DNA of others and only look at the matches.  It is the site that forensic police are using.  Be aware of that. As I mentioned, FTDNA is the only place doing yDNA.  It is far more expensive and traces the paternal line only.  It goes back further than the autosomal (Family Finder type) tests.  FTDNA has surname projects for both types of tests. I paid for the 67 marker yDNA test and the reason I came back to do the atDNA tests was that our Bowers yDNA test showed no matches to anyone with the Bowers surname.  There are quite a few others participating in FTDNA's Bowers project in the same situation. There are many reasons for this.  It may be because not enough Bower/Bowers have tested and in the yDNA database.  I think not enough have done the atDNA test either as my Bowers matches are few for it as well.  Other reasons for no matches are one might not be descended from a Bowers as people changed their surnames when they came to America sometimes; adoption is another possible reason too. I was at the point I suspected my g-grandfather might not have been a Bowers.  His parents were next door neighbors in the 1860 census and counted separately in their own parents households when it was the year of my g-grandfather's birth.  I though OK, maybe he was the mailman's son!  The atDNA test showed matches to descendants of his siblings as well as some matches further back in time and confirmed we are Bowers descendants.  The tests can help as long as the genealogy research is correct and people post their trees. Hope the explanation of atDNA helps someone.  Those of us who aren't DNA experts can easily understand the "train station" analogy! Donna H. On 10/13/2018 5:52 AM, M wrote: > Donna, > > > I have done the DNA test....of course, I know so little about it. Mine is on Ancestry. I am female and my maternal grandfather was a Bowers. There are only males cousins left from our line so I might have to ask one of them. I have well over 900 potential matches and I am sure over time it will be even more. Mostly people I contact have no clue the link we have. I will keep my eyes open for the holiday pricing. > > > Thanks, > > > Marcy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donna Bowers Hinson <dmhinson2004@suddenlink.net> > To: bower <bower@rootsweb.com>; bowers <bowers@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Fri, Oct 12, 2018 9:50 pm > Subject: [BOWER] DNA genealogy > > I've done both the Ancestry and FTDNA atDNA tests and a Bowers male > relative did the yDNA test on FTDNA. Every holiday season, all the > genealogy testing companies usually offer a reduced special price. > Several of us researching Bower/Bowers and variants were talking about > the fact that not enough of the Bowers clan have tested. If you're > interested, check for the specials during the holidays or let your > families know that might be a potential gift. Actually, you an join > Ancestry without signing up for a costly subscription and do a tree. > Others who have a subscription can see your tree and contact you. Then > if you decide to test, you can link the test to your tree. FTDNA allows > all who are DNA matches to see each others trees. FTDNA is the only > company I'm aware of that also does the yDNA test which requires a male > of the same surname. Please know I'm not posting this because I earn > any money whatsoever. I would just like to see more matches from our > surname. We do not have a very large database on the FTDNA Bowers > project (yDNA) where other surnames have many more participants. > > Donna Hinson > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=R4mUXD5CBwYsWeqVI1U6ODhTdyq9NO05AC41KHmL32s&m=UZMpT16dmBfBCg8Ja95slmlsr1zZlnkh01B0cvrkWhk&s=7vDNf_M4L3jkkHHBqCFaCv2ExUuvWuMn-EEGb5Y3MUQ&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bower@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=R4mUXD5CBwYsWeqVI1U6ODhTdyq9NO05AC41KHmL32s&m=UZMpT16dmBfBCg8Ja95slmlsr1zZlnkh01B0cvrkWhk&s=yZIPmv59_U6U-rmbBKkQUEVFLBFWAOykWpVQbalYb6k&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=R4mUXD5CBwYsWeqVI1U6ODhTdyq9NO05AC41KHmL32s&m=UZMpT16dmBfBCg8Ja95slmlsr1zZlnkh01B0cvrkWhk&s=4TlAwINygz5ZmGvGPenoQTQ2BWRGcIf9FLq8fBArXFA&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwID-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=7GAJ-XDRdTiX_eEVNvCrori_fm_SDyScT70hYjfXa58&s=dhMJxTrwmedfHL3lE2Nw1-Dclk8fqINIc-hU-IxzbJQ&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bower@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwID-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=7GAJ-XDRdTiX_eEVNvCrori_fm_SDyScT70hYjfXa58&s=y69OWGuqwcoj1cf1C-2Lti-sC3OY6uYKMCyB0lx2n3g&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwID-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=7GAJ-XDRdTiX_eEVNvCrori_fm_SDyScT70hYjfXa58&s=15IGwJ5aq8_ZF5IRPbZ0RoZ_IC0Br2Su7n8_N8dGpN0&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

I've done both the Ancestry and FTDNA atDNA tests and a Bowers male relative did the yDNA test on FTDNA.  Every holiday season, all the genealogy testing companies usually offer a reduced special price. Several of us researching Bower/Bowers and variants were talking about the fact that not enough of the Bowers clan have tested.  If you're interested, check for the specials during the holidays or let your families know that might be a potential gift.  Actually, you an join Ancestry without signing up for a costly subscription and do a tree.  Others who have a subscription can see your tree and contact you.  Then if you decide to test, you can link the test to your tree.  FTDNA allows all who are DNA matches to see each others trees.  FTDNA is the only company I'm aware of that also does the yDNA test which requires a male of the same surname.  Please know I'm not posting this because I earn any money whatsoever.  I would just like to see more matches from our surname.  We do not have a very large database on the FTDNA Bowers project (yDNA) where other surnames have many more participants. Donna Hinson

I have tested with the five major companies for atDNA, but have no cousin with the surname Bowers to test for the Y. My line goes back to the early 1800s, so even the atDNA can't always help, although I have found some times during that time period. Best wishes, Emily If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email. LOL Genetic Genealogy: The Basics and Beyond by E. Aulicino. Order online at AuthorHouse, Amazon and Barnes and Noble https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__writingyourmemories.blogspot.com_&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=0YpFBZO5Sy6rbaqWtjwc2p0lSJQQP0bZ0VH8LxvF4bg&s=3WVQIN0_iFRmqh6R1ykJponmvZvUqBvusf36UmE_TPo&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__genealem-2Dgeneticgenealogy.blogspot.com_&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=0YpFBZO5Sy6rbaqWtjwc2p0lSJQQP0bZ0VH8LxvF4bg&s=SNLn4spTYFMjSZu3WWd8GGAYJDq5s-2xsKGfFHp2vDQ&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.apgen.org_chapters_oregon_&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=0YpFBZO5Sy6rbaqWtjwc2p0lSJQQP0bZ0VH8LxvF4bg&s=qDGe89B5Q11jPaC9-gRscg_rhNssOZ2z9GERjTAiMjc&e= -----Original Message----- From: Donna Bowers Hinson <dmhinson2004@suddenlink.net> Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2018 7:09 AM To: bower@rootsweb.com; bowers@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOWERS] Re: [BOWER] Re: Re: Re: Is there a List manager? I will post more details on older generations later but direct line is: Donna Bowers > Henry Bowers b. 1921 MS > George Franklin Bowers b. 1889 Montgomery Co. MS d. 1962 Leflore Co. MS > Joseph Carroll Bowers b. 1860 Carroll Co. MS d. 1940 Montgomery Co. MS > Jeremiah (Jerry) M. Bowers b. 1835 Wilson Co., TN d. Montgomery Co. MS  > Bartlett Deans Bowers b. 1810 Sumner Co. TN d. 1882-1884 Grenada Co. MS > Jeremiah Bowers b. 1768 VA d. Abt 1852 Todd Co. KY > ?John Bowers b. Abt 1742 d. 1803 Davidson Co., TN (John is either a brother or father to Jeremiah) yDNA and Family Finder tests done at FTDNA.  Waiting on results from Ancestry dna test now.  Am in the Bowers project on FTDNA.  So many Bowers who have had someone do the yDNA test, including myself, match no Bowers.  There are a few matches to Giles Bowers of Franklin Co. NC and Isle of Wight, VA. If anyone else has done either FTDNA or Ancestry's Family Finder, please post.  We can look for your names on the match list. Donna _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=0YpFBZO5Sy6rbaqWtjwc2p0lSJQQP0bZ0VH8LxvF4bg&s=d34doRZaAqC3Q0NKYC415llPK4MIPaXojqtqhNZAXGc&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowers@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=0YpFBZO5Sy6rbaqWtjwc2p0lSJQQP0bZ0VH8LxvF4bg&s=woi-DKeT4JD17OkAUhklTx4QmoR9zOWnUgHcKJUXwBI&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFAw&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=0YpFBZO5Sy6rbaqWtjwc2p0lSJQQP0bZ0VH8LxvF4bg&s=XI-Y_Y2_w-TWKJelKRsMQ8oEWa9zPZqEwJXr0QRK1EU&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Greetings! I am looking for more information on Lemuel Bowers, b. ca 1709-12 and d. before Apr 1785 in Morris Co, NJ. AND any more info on any of the following below. I'm also looking for proof that Lemuel was the son of Nathaniel Bowers and Hannah Smith of Connecticut. Lemuel m. Elizabeth Wittemore ca 1735-1740 in Middletown, CT or Newark, NJ. She b. 1716; d. bet. 1750-1758 Lemuel and Elizabeth had: John Bowers, b. ca 1735-1740; d. before 15 Nov 1780 Morris Co, NJ; m. Catherine Unknown Steven Bowers, b. ca 1743; d. bet 1796-1803 (where?); m. Phebe Camp, d. 10 May 1806 Maddison, Middlesex, NJ; had 6 children Elizabeth Bowers, b. 1746 Hanover Twp or Morris Co, NJ; d. 11 Jul 1788 Parsippany, Morris Co, NJ; m. Edward Cobb (have his dates); had 10 children Lemuel married 2nd to Hannah Pearson in 1758 in Hanover Twp, Morris Co, NJ or Newark, NJ or possibly Vermont. Lemuel and Hannah had: James Bowers, b. bet 1756-17661 and d. ca 1827 in Chatham, Morris Co, NJ; m. Elizabeth Freeman (any dates on her?) Druscilla Bowers, b. 1 May 1760; d. 7 Oct 1795 in Morris Co, NJ; m. James Keene (any info on him?) Lemuel Bowers, b. aft 1761; d. 20 Sep 1830 in Crown Point, Essex Co, NY; m. Sarah Mills who was b. ca 1761 Morris Co, NJ. (my ancestor) Please email me directly at: aulicino@hevanet.com Thank you, Emily If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email. LOL Genetic Genealogy: The Basics and Beyond by E. Aulicino. Order online at AuthorHouse, Amazon and Barnes and Noble https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__writingyourmemories.blogspot.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=b4F36CkyhxGm1yRlwE49lTHGEsSTd6YM33N7cPPHbqM&s=ZBQEilm1lH9_egYrZemQclnMOirJbCjx6jBUXsdJDJo&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__genealem-2Dgeneticgenealogy.blogspot.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=b4F36CkyhxGm1yRlwE49lTHGEsSTd6YM33N7cPPHbqM&s=mTtiGNv64PRDEPzNcM2oaHRcoioZ3j-Nq2vLlrIlHBk&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.apgen.org_chapters_oregon_&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=b4F36CkyhxGm1yRlwE49lTHGEsSTd6YM33N7cPPHbqM&s=QqyoQEfijLub3N8QUmnEymQ4ti6QRTX4VVzRFXkBP8s&e=

Okay everyone, now that we're back online let's get the word out about who we're looking for.  You cousins who have been here for years, the old rules still apply. NEWBIES: 1. Make your subject line the NAME OF THE PERSON you're looking for and perhaps even the place.  You want to catch ALL the cousin's eyes and attention. 2.  Give as much information in your message as you can about your ancestor.  I may descend directly from the ancestor you're looking for, but I might descend from a brother or sister.  The more data you give, the better chance you have of my (or another cousin) finding you. 3.  NO LIVING PEOPLE in your message, please.  Let's protect the living.  Thanks. 4.  Your message will be cross-posted to another family list. Notice in the To: line at the top of this message.  ALL those list cousins are part of our family names.  If you post a message (for example) to the Bower list and it has information pertaining to someone from England, I will automatically cross-post your message to those cousins on the Bower-non-USA.  Your message will get extra exposure that way.  Likewise, non-USA messages will get cross-posted.  Remember in my Welcome I said that traffic might get heavy?.... well, this is time it will happen. 5.  I may save some messages to post the data at our home at Bower Community.  Before I do though, I'll contact you individually for permission.  Any data posted there is always credited back to you by way of a contact link so our visitors can contact you directly.  Again, more exposure. Other than that, have fun and cross your fingers for a contact. Colleen --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avg.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=4_xTwdINzLnfaDZXwr7SkWYh8k5C9F04ID5TKDkP2yQ&s=kOwyZLJD30GkR5Wng7pWlIbSKa8OGhmZLgIbLH17GbI&e=

Colleen, glad to see you back! On 9/4/2018 11:35 AM, Colleen Pustola wrote: > I'm Colleen, your list manager.  My apologies for the long absence as > I've been dealing with multiple medical issues, one leading to > another.  Hopefully, the light at the end of the tunnel is near and we > can get things back to normal. >

Sorry everyone.  Since ours is a free site and not selling anything I didn't buy the security that Google tried to impress on everyone.  So, they mess with the URLs of those of didn't make the purchase. *sigh* Please be sure to use this url -- https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bowercommunity.com_homestead_&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=M6fwXF806NMfdCA3d5_7GwpuR8isr_qggOEjsXePM0E&s=VngboDBwZqF-OI2MW53Kun0QSZWTlJCmmmm-UveAoWc&e= I didn't see the major mess made of our home site until I finished sending out the welcome letters to all the lists. Colleen --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avg.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=M6fwXF806NMfdCA3d5_7GwpuR8isr_qggOEjsXePM0E&s=wge0U8O1dVKZiaTCP0cpe1crQV4t5r8s9ep2SURapBQ&e=

I'm Colleen, your list manager.  My apologies for the long absence as I've been dealing with multiple medical issues, one leading to another.  Hopefully, the light at the end of the tunnel is near and we can get things back to normal. We have some new people to our family, so first off I'll post list rules that are also reminders for those cousins who have been with us for years. *PLEASE BE CONSIDERATE* of your fellow list members. Some folks are beginners at computers and some to genealogy. The world is a better place when we are all patient with each other. Personal attacks, criticism, or flaming are never permitted and will result in being banned from the list. *HOW DO YOU POST?* Send an email to bowers@rootsweb.com *WHAT SHOULD YOU POST?* 1. Questions about your ancestors. Give as much detail as you can. 2. Interesting history that is relevant to the list. 3. Genealogy and family history conferences, even if they charge for admission. 4. Genealogy societies should feel free to post about their society and their websites. 5. Book reviews of genealogy books are reasonable to post. A list of books is not, but sharing a good genealogy book you've found is a good idea. 6. Links to personal blogs that are about genealogy. They can be your blog or another. Even if the blog has ads, that is not a problem. 7. New collections on various genealogy sites that are relevant. We don't want advertisements, but if you find an interesting collection on Ancestry, FamilySearch, Library of Congress, or some other site that has relevance to the list, let people know. *WHAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR POST?* 1. An informative but concise subject line. 2. When replying to a previous message, be sure to check that the intended recipient's address is showing in the Send To box of your email BEFORE clicking on SEND. 3. Proofread and be sure you want your post public. All posts go in the archives! *OUR ONLINE HOME* is at _https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bowercommunity.com_homestead-5F&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=WURpCouGx1AVeer1KR86PA9sc-ikYXV1q1e7FY1-PtI&s=bZcbMep3D51fwPbVxorhSurY8s762cdKf0Pau9w6HaI&e=. You'll find a wealth of information waiting for you there.  If you'd like to post material there, please let me know by sending a message to <ladyaudris@earthlink.net>. Once you have visited the site, you will understand when I say we (Bowers, Bauer, Bauers, Baur, Bower-non-USA and Bowers-non-USA) are all family.  (cough, cough) It's rather dusty so you'll have to excuse the look till I clean it up.  :-) *LIST TRAFFIC MAY BE RATHER HEAVY AT TIMES*.  Aside from Bower messages, you may receive messages from the Bowers, Bauer, Bauers, Baur, Bower-non-USA and Bowers-non-USA lists as I cross-post messages that MAY have important information for you.  Also, you should expect roll calls to bring on a huge amount of messages. *LIST ARCHIVES.*  We have been online since 1997. However, it looks like our list archives have been wiped out and now only start from this past weekend.  :-(    I post a link to them here: _https://lists.rootsweb.com/hyperkitty/list/bowers@rootsweb.com/2018/9/_ *DIGEST SUBSCRIPTION.*  Once you have signed in to your Rootsweb account, click on this link  -- _https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/accounts/list-options/bowers.rootsweb.com/_ and go to Delivery Mode.  Click on the drop-down button and select Plain Text Digests. *WANT TO UNSUBSCRIBE?* Send an email to https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowers@rootsweb.com and put unsubscribe in the subject and body and nothing else. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.avg.com&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=WURpCouGx1AVeer1KR86PA9sc-ikYXV1q1e7FY1-PtI&s=mlPds2rnc5IkDAjeIt4SHtN8olz_6l2JEXAcZppBg6E&e=

I will post more details on older generations later but direct line is: Donna Bowers > Henry Bowers b. 1921 MS > George Franklin Bowers b. 1889 Montgomery Co. MS d. 1962 Leflore Co. MS > Joseph Carroll Bowers b. 1860 Carroll Co. MS d. 1940 Montgomery Co. MS > Jeremiah (Jerry) M. Bowers b. 1835 Wilson Co., TN d. Montgomery Co. MS  > Bartlett Deans Bowers b. 1810 Sumner Co. TN d. 1882-1884 Grenada Co. MS > Jeremiah Bowers b. 1768 VA d. Abt 1852 Todd Co. KY > ?John Bowers b. Abt 1742 d. 1803 Davidson Co., TN (John is either a brother or father to Jeremiah) yDNA and Family Finder tests done at FTDNA.  Waiting on results from Ancestry dna test now.  Am in the Bowers project on FTDNA.  So many Bowers who have had someone do the yDNA test, including myself, match no Bowers.  There are a few matches to Giles Bowers of Franklin Co. NC and Isle of Wight, VA. If anyone else has done either FTDNA or Ancestry's Family Finder, please post.  We can look for your names on the match list. Donna

Great idea! On 9/4/2018 7:44 AM, M wrote: > > That is a very good question....the transition has left me with lots of questions...even if there isn't....perhaps a new roll call is in order? > > > Marcy > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donna Bowers Hinson <dmhinson2004@suddenlink.net> > To: bowers <bowers@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, Sep 3, 2018 11:31 pm > Subject: [BOWERS] Re: [BOWER] Re: Is there a List manager? > > > On 9/3/2018 10:23 PM, Donna Bowers Hinson wrote: >> Does anyone know if there is a List Manager? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=R4mUXD5CBwYsWeqVI1U6ODhTdyq9NO05AC41KHmL32s&m=bPsE-j_XVGmlNYKEn-E_-tIECDHNh-qN8yMkBPGq4Pc&s=qSq0BxwjgtT2rkyVxLQVcmtnQ9WAcgO1gSfb1sIAUfU&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowers@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=R4mUXD5CBwYsWeqVI1U6ODhTdyq9NO05AC41KHmL32s&m=bPsE-j_XVGmlNYKEn-E_-tIECDHNh-qN8yMkBPGq4Pc&s=TcdIiDT7NumiyB9XPdIhFMo9yknDfe2X_ij8ZagOhZY&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=R4mUXD5CBwYsWeqVI1U6ODhTdyq9NO05AC41KHmL32s&m=bPsE-j_XVGmlNYKEn-E_-tIECDHNh-qN8yMkBPGq4Pc&s=daW3tl7D6lSw7-oA6q9s1Z7U2do2DGB9AhrMxd2uWl4&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIC-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=k8xmk52_nqR9xhbVp1DPbOm_OK_8jh4qLL0X9pA0yJ4&s=uxYOFzOPVyfUDtxh4FlgKVbMT1UAaaDgdxVZ7fJ5QOQ&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bower@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIC-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=k8xmk52_nqR9xhbVp1DPbOm_OK_8jh4qLL0X9pA0yJ4&s=dryf8dGy0jnn1le5WuFpnVcPP3rIcsvF1J7UDxZOAK4&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIC-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=k8xmk52_nqR9xhbVp1DPbOm_OK_8jh4qLL0X9pA0yJ4&s=gHtrv-2YKsM63H6uPgPsLH2tRWseAQP34kyhEBXWO1M&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

The following are Bowers and variants I have been researching for years... Frederick and Margaret (unk) BAUER Germany circa 1800 SON: Conrad (var Konrad) BAUER aka BOWER born 5 Jan 1818 Darmstadt married to Margaret (HORTON) born 21 Jul 1818 Conrad and Margaret immigrated to the United States around 1845 with child Children: Peter Conrad BOWER - 18 Jul 1841 (Berlin) Barbara Amanda BOWERS - 1 Feb 1851 (N.Collins, NY) Margaret BOWER - circa 1853 (N. Collins, NY) Sarah BOWER - 6 Feb 1855 (N. Collins, NY) Amelia BOWER - circa 1857 Sophia BOWERS - 1859 (N. Collins, NY) Henry Conrad BOWER - 1861 (N. Collins, NY) Peter Bower married Magedalena ADAMS in 1866 and had the following children... George F. BOWER 1867 (N. Collins) Frank BOWER 1871 (N. Colllins) William BOWERS 1873 (N. Collins) Sophia BOWER 1875 (N. Collins) Peter BOWER Jr. 1878 Edward BOWER 1880 Elida or Lydia BOWER 1882 (N. Collins) Oliver BOWER 1884 Irene BOWER 1886 (N. Collins) William (1873 son of Peter and Magedalena) BOWERS married Edna Alice PEACOCK in 1908...they were in PA when most of their children were born and then migrated back to NY after. I am curious why they were in Russell, PA from 1911 to 1919. I have a great deal of information...what I am really missing is where Conrad and Margaret BOWER are buried. Original records online state they were buried in East Hamburgh, NY (which does not exist any more) and death records from the Town of Evans say buried in Eden Cemetery. I would also like to know if there are any siblings of Conrad and Margaret that might have come to the USA around the same time...I have yet to find records from Germany. (I have also done DNA on Ancestry if there is a chance we might be linked) Marcy

That is a very good question....the transition has left me with lots of questions...even if there isn't....perhaps a new roll call is in order? Marcy -----Original Message----- From: Donna Bowers Hinson <dmhinson2004@suddenlink.net> To: bowers <bowers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 3, 2018 11:31 pm Subject: [BOWERS] Re: [BOWER] Re: Is there a List manager? On 9/3/2018 10:23 PM, Donna Bowers Hinson wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a List Manager? > > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=a539kimUXhjSmUAVgLoTv5U8xN87vNLhVcI7MBvKmng&s=kqcOlmVi4D2glUNuOIS3aScnMK3WfXZtrFnFfgZ4x-w&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowers@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=a539kimUXhjSmUAVgLoTv5U8xN87vNLhVcI7MBvKmng&s=loC6UuUhVLVOIowG6lhvYprvdy4YbG0eN81iv38stEQ&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwICaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=a539kimUXhjSmUAVgLoTv5U8xN87vNLhVcI7MBvKmng&s=nk-I89ZHvc3QIseelxLA8gF52XUQAQg2s4f6AAzIABA&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

On 9/3/2018 10:23 PM, Donna Bowers Hinson wrote: > Does anyone know if there is a List Manager? > > _______________________________________________ >

Thanks for bringing the list available. My Bowers go back to Lemuel Bowers who lived in Morristown, NJ in the mid-1700s and married Elizabeth Whittemore and Hannah Pearson. I desc. from Hannah via son Lemuel jr. Would love to hear from anyone connected. Best wishes, Emily If you do not hear from me in a timely manner, just write again...I was buried in email. LOL Genetic Genealogy: The Basics and Beyond by E. Aulicino. Order online at AuthorHouse, Amazon and Barnes and Noble https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__writingyourmemories.blogspot.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=MCRWHQNPEpkQaDMSRKcOW039eAisepZ9ASZg1DtY8cU&s=5QSnG6irqGEQB1dE79Jzc4bmXZr1lrsbr2s2iUKUtu0&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__genealem-2Dgeneticgenealogy.blogspot.com_&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=MCRWHQNPEpkQaDMSRKcOW039eAisepZ9ASZg1DtY8cU&s=el8UWTT2JMfRCBZKb9eulmweEFZxfJQrqYDPrkC4Dak&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.apgen.org_chapters_oregon_&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=MCRWHQNPEpkQaDMSRKcOW039eAisepZ9ASZg1DtY8cU&s=ydzoiCvECIP0JXjdtWgI0KEyAoTrd8ptgx4GlRRTFns&e=

Apparently, the Rootsweb lists are back up.  But check your address book and make sure you have the address for the list as it is on this note because the old list address appears defunct. On 9/3/2018 2:20 PM, Sally Brown via BOWERS wrote: > Is Rootsweb back up? > On Monday, September 3, 2018, 12:03:10 PM PDT, Donna Hinson <dmhinson2004@suddenlink.net> wrote: > > So glad to see people still on the list.  In my address book, I had the > list addresses as follows:  BOWER-L and BOWERS-L@ rootsweb.com. I'll > send a note to test them to see if they are now defunct. > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=hy97GOhU8pALuqDAJ-9jxMITuxCfcidIMNPFoXCvR88&s=oAW0g5HXByQ6gyMMijTwIWR99HMzyLFmzt3k2II72ug&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowers@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=hy97GOhU8pALuqDAJ-9jxMITuxCfcidIMNPFoXCvR88&s=kdLirCkoicgvw2E0pYwVGpbx1Fu0Spct2ggHVjqjZtw&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=hy97GOhU8pALuqDAJ-9jxMITuxCfcidIMNPFoXCvR88&s=-BjEkqWHnpTTqmnvDu_3cf9pF2Es6VB00Mp1ebFuDOw&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=X6Y9APt3Qzgx6O-PhhdIv7UCyafF-uDPllAQj8TCKIc&s=UO8dZQluZNQwrq82ZHAWetp57XJ4JtCefa8mszQactA&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowers@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=X6Y9APt3Qzgx6O-PhhdIv7UCyafF-uDPllAQj8TCKIc&s=spwdEhkZCQVDbnp94ZdfSQ5HOoRR1ok7V1fA-wbvyVs&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIDaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=X6Y9APt3Qzgx6O-PhhdIv7UCyafF-uDPllAQj8TCKIc&s=ZHR2YwD8e0lLgBeco557HJIxHitNIUtz-nSVepF_rEU&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

Is Rootsweb back up? On Monday, September 3, 2018, 12:03:10 PM PDT, Donna Hinson <dmhinson2004@suddenlink.net> wrote: So glad to see people still on the list.  In my address book, I had the list addresses as follows:  BOWER-L and BOWERS-L@ rootsweb.com. I'll send a note to test them to see if they are now defunct. _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=hy97GOhU8pALuqDAJ-9jxMITuxCfcidIMNPFoXCvR88&s=oAW0g5HXByQ6gyMMijTwIWR99HMzyLFmzt3k2II72ug&e= Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowers@rootsweb.com Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=hy97GOhU8pALuqDAJ-9jxMITuxCfcidIMNPFoXCvR88&s=kdLirCkoicgvw2E0pYwVGpbx1Fu0Spct2ggHVjqjZtw&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIFaQ&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=hy97GOhU8pALuqDAJ-9jxMITuxCfcidIMNPFoXCvR88&s=-BjEkqWHnpTTqmnvDu_3cf9pF2Es6VB00Mp1ebFuDOw&e= Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community

M, Good thing you posted your original note re:  no notifications. Maybe others were still using the addresses we used to use (BOWER-L and BOWERS-L@rootsweb.com).  I sent a test note using the old ones just now and nothing happened!  Evidently Ancestry changed it to bower and bowers@rootsweb.com.  Now we know.  I haven't used Rootsweb in a long time because they were down for quite a while so still had those old addresses.  So glad the lists are back up and running. Donna On 9/3/2018 12:01 PM, M wrote: > testing > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwID-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=y1a3BwW_UEZKPPTfEinEXeGAjau_4PkXPiwAtmsrrvo&s=eIoWuHXSd-1J6kmh5hcByoo7ao_qQNIEExoo6RTEqO8&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowers@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwID-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=y1a3BwW_UEZKPPTfEinEXeGAjau_4PkXPiwAtmsrrvo&s=1605Zz1IA--LYI61D-raGmRHl93RLib4Hz3pNTc970A&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwID-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=y1a3BwW_UEZKPPTfEinEXeGAjau_4PkXPiwAtmsrrvo&s=LFcIcuWwLrMHjjlJCEkGwfSR0FoF3fDkZhse0KrjAZE&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

So glad to see people still on the list.  In my address book, I had the list addresses as follows:  BOWER-L and BOWERS-L@ rootsweb.com. I'll send a note to test them to see if they are now defunct.

This one is working too (Bowers). On 9/3/2018 12:01 PM, M wrote: > testing > > _______________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > Email preferences: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__bit.ly_rootswebpref&d=DwIC-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=RzuWgMkerioGfeb3wRXtIbxrPII7FXXZxJnojqGKm4s&s=jVfvXE5_IFqcDdPRa55FojYtxbSglj9B7yu-yV0sRwI&e= > Unsubscribe https://lists.rootsweb.com/postorius/lists/bowers@rootsweb.com > Privacy Statement: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2JWBOdY&d=DwIC-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=RzuWgMkerioGfeb3wRXtIbxrPII7FXXZxJnojqGKm4s&s=Cmst7NRmd2SiopFNAGyZ4stNR7XvKtMJWi-sPxM7nPw&e= Terms and Conditions: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ancstry.me_2HDBym9&d=DwIC-g&c=kKqjBR9KKWaWpMhASkPbOg&r=Y87bGozWymqs_K5WfXedme5g6IkZdwSipFZHQzK7E7M&m=RzuWgMkerioGfeb3wRXtIbxrPII7FXXZxJnojqGKm4s&s=SNOex7GBUehdfpdHLBLspk75gHBNY4d0ZVELmkSI6wQ&e= > Rootsweb Blog: http://rootsweb.blog > RootsWeb is funded and supported by Ancestry.com and our loyal RootsWeb community >

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