Hi everyone, In the span of just one month, I find myself having to put the word out again. I'm sorry, but again this is a mass mailing to all my lists. Too many newbies have joined us and I have an update from my message of January 19th. THE UPDATE FIRST I'll begin here so those of you who already know about Family Discovery (and their sister site, GenSeekers) can be on your merry way .... A new letter from them is circulating now... one that promotes a service that sounds like something that as a genealogist, you're really afraid to pass up (those records... all those records!). The newest message will probably have a subject line of "Thanks for your help Genealogist..." Are you concerned that you'll be missing out by not signing up with Family Discovery? Would you like to know what you're missing if you don't get in on the "special offer"? Click on this link <http://www.familydiscovery.com/members/>. It will take you directly inside their site where you can walk around and have a really good look. Once done, please spread the word. Don't let other cousins, friends and newbies get suckered by these scam artists. I also want to let you know that Gene Olson has done some research and found the following current list of sites related to Family Discovery in one way or another: genealogyfinders.com genealogyfinders.net aboent.com familydiscovery.com genseeker.com genealogy-express.com If these sites are anything like Family Discovery, hide your wallet, checkbook, credit card, and run! :) He has now set up a message board on his site for discussion of Family Discovery and her sister sites. Want to find out more or comment about the subject?... head for Gene's Anti Family Discovery site at <http://www.compuright.net/familydiscovery/>. FOR THE NEWEST COUSINS Okay, so I did this backwards, the newest news first. However, please know that the subject of Family Discovery is NOT new. To save time, this is a copy and paste from the main portion of my message to everyone on January 19th. It lays out the whole story. I post it here again just for you newest cousins... Family Discovery is just what I said in the last sentence... rip-offs. This is becoming an old subject among those of us who have been doing online genealogy for a while, but you need to be made aware... Family Discovery links their pages to Rootsweb sites and archive pages, GenWeb sites, and privately owned sites ... sites on which all the information is already FREE! They are doing this without permission and are currently under investigation. Please, heed the warning. A new ad from them is going around telling you that if you'll join by Friday, 2 Feb, you'll pay "a one time access fee of ONLY $49.00 with absolutely nothing to pay EVER again..." While I'm at it, I'd better warn you of their newest, sister site... GenSeeker, in case another message is floating around that I'm not aware of yet. Though I haven't heard any more about it from anyone (yet), it's still a site owned by the same person(s) and building itself under the same premise as Family Discovery. I've been to their newest site and seen what they're up to. Instead of the "special rate" you're charged $20 more. However, when clicking on their "freesearch link," the unwary customer is taken to the familydiscovery.com site. GenSeeker describes itself as "the most comprehensive easy to use collection of online records ever compiled." Of course it is, if they link to every free website they can find! Save your money and do the search yourself! You DO NOT need to pay for a service that is already free if you know where to look. If you need assistance, send a message to the list and state in the top line of your message that you're a newbie needing help; you'll probably get more than you can handle! :) Gene Olson has an Anti-FamilyDiscovery.com update list from his website. He has been working to close down both sites and is still on their trail. You newbies to online genealogy would be wise to go to his site and read up on this company so you won't be ripped off. Click on the following link and you'll be taken directly to his site: <http://www.compuright.net/familydiscovery>. Gene's new email address is <gene_olson@bigfoot.com>. His toll-free number is 1-877-319-9699. I tried to access familydiscovery.com just a moment ago. It seems the entire site is now password protected. Hmmm... I wonder why... I hope this finds you all having a TERRIFIC Tuesday! :) Colleen

BOWER can be found on the name index of the Website listed below. M. Lee Minnis Ancestors in Virginia (904) 287-3198 lminnis@worldnet.att.net http://www.ancestorsinvirginia.com

Hi again cousins, Next month is a scheduled update for the GEDCOM Project at the Cottage. If you would like to submit your GEDCOM, THE DEADLINE IS NEXT SUNDAY, 4 FEBRUARY. I'll run the update during the week of 5 February. If you've sent a GEDCOM in already and would like me to use the same one again, please let me know at <ladyaudris@earthlink.net>. If you're submitting an update, please let me know that so I can remove your last one. If you're new to the family and would like to submit a GEDCOM, you should know there are two requirements: 1. Your GEDCOM can be as long or short as you wish, but it must be primarily about Bower[s], Bau[e], Bro[u]wer, or any of our researched variant spellings. (Spouse's lines - include only them and their parents). 2. Absolutely NO living people. The next scheduled update won't be until June. If you wish to participate in this update, please send your GEDCOMs in to me this week as I'll need time to rebuild our project and get it online. I hope you all have a super, sunny Sunday! :) Colleen

) ( ) Good Morning Family! .-.,--^--. ( Come on in. . . \\|`----'| - The coffee pot's on. . . \| |// ...and we even have decaf, | |/ tea, and hot chocolate! \ / ------ Today's topics include: 1. Welcome to new cousins 2. Newbie Nuggets a. responding to a query b. I'm a newbie too, now 3. Kuzins Korner If you've been with the family for at least three weeks, you'll probably want to skip the following paragraph… TO OUR NEWEST COUSINS ~~ On behalf of the entire family, I'd like to extend a most hearty welcome to those cousins who came into the family fold this past week. We are very glad to have you with us and hope you'll stay and remain a part of our online family. As soon as you're comfortable with us and the list, please send in your Bower[s]/Bauer or Baur lines so we can all see how we're related to you. We do not have a fancy format for sending in records or queries to the list. Post as many as you wish! If the data has anything to do with Bower[s]/Bauer or Baur ancestors or any of the 81+ variant spellings we research that might help someone, please feel free to post it. Every scrap of information is appreciated. If you haven't visited the homesite of this list yet, you are encouraged to do so. Our home is Bower Community, located at <http://bowercommunity.com>. There, we currently have two sites: The Bower Family Homestead [a.k.a., the Homestead] is our primary homesite and the gathering place for much of our information. It waits to join us all in welcoming you into the family at <http://bowercommunity.com/homestead>. Smaller and just opened this year, our sister site, the Bower Cottage, houses most of our projects including an online GEDCOM fed by quite a few cousins from our lists. The Cottage is still small as far as material goes, however give us time and we'll have it filled really soon. The Cottage is at <http://bowercommunity.com/cottage>. NEWBIE NUGGETS RESPONDING TO A QUERY This isn't going to be about _how_ to respond to a query. You already know how to do that. This is a 'netiquette' (net etiquette) request... Have you seen someone post a lengthy message, then someone responds to it, leaving the original message in tact? When you reply over top of a message, in effect you're responding to its entirety. However, if you will stop and clip away those parts which have no relevance to the response, you'll be doing many of your cousins a favor in two ways. 1.) Most of our international cousins (and some of our American ones, too) pay for the amount of time they're on the Web (it's because of their phone line, not the Web connection itself). Having to download a reply that's gone back to the list along with its original 2-3 page message they've already seen, is a waste of our cousins money. 2.) Our cousins who take the digest will very much appreciate clipped responses as well. Do you know what a digest looks like? It's one big message full of all the posts made on the list in the last 12 hours. Do you know what a truncated digest looks like? Picture this... you receive a regular list message, but only the headers are there. That's what happens when a digest is truncated. Our digests are sent after 20,000 bytes-worth of messages are received through the list, or 12 hours after the last message is posted... whichever comes first. In order to eek in those 20,000 bytes, sometimes the last message is cut in half or up to the headers, attached to the next digest and sent that way. Those digest cousins do not get benefit of your (or the next cousin's) message because it was truncated. ...and all this simply because someone didn't realize to <snip> a long message. Please, when you respond to a message, clip it down and leave just enough that we know what you're talking about and responding to. I'M A NEWBIE TOO, NOW Yes, you read it right, I _am_ a newbie now... a newbie to the specialized research of Native America. Will I lurk? Perhaps I might for a while on a few of the 17 Native American lists I joined yesterday. However, I want you to know... if I lurk, I also know that I won't learn as much as I will if I would ask the questions I have. And yes, for a while I'm going to sound like the newbie that I am. The same applies to you right now. But, lurkers monitor a list without participating, taking their chances on seeing their ancestors come out on the list, or getting answers to their questions. I keep in mind one thing since I'm a newbie again... all the people I'm asking questions of... were also new at one time. I also know I won't be a newbie forever as long as I continue to learn and master the techniques I'll need to know. And why am I beginning Native American research? I'm not... not really. I'm just laying a foundation for myself to open a portion of our home site for those cousins who _are_ Native American. It was listed in my plans for this coming year. And, because I asked a question my first day out, I found out there are FIVE Bower(s) on a special census that are of Choctaw or Cherokee lineage! Will I go after that information to put at the Homestead?... you bet! Newbie cousins, ask the questions! Take your chances with the family... KUZINS KORNER Cousin Diana Moritz Willis (Diwill2@aol.com) left the family on Thursday. She is having eye surgery in San Antonio, Texas on January 29th due to a hole in part of her eye. As she tells me, "The fluid of my eye will be removed, and a gas bubble will be inserted. I will have to be "face down" for ten days in order for the gas bubble to do its thing. During the day, if I am bending over looking at my feet/shoes, that will count as "face down." I'm sure Diana would appreciate all our support. Family... it's what we're all about. I really enjoyed this time with you. It was so nice. Thank you for sharing it with me. I hope your upcoming week is filled with health, fun, productivity, and above all, filled with love. ) ( ) _.-~~-. (@\'--'/. Colleen ('``.__.'`) `..____.'

Hi again everyone, The second wave of backlogged files is now uploaded. The new additions to the Homestead are in the following areas: census records land records marriage records medieval (garage) military records obituaries probate records passenger & immigrations Again, if you've forgotten where each Homestead area is, please use our site map. You still will NOT be able to use the search engine for this new data because there hasn't been enough time for our site to get spidered. For the next couple days, it will still have to be a manual search. :`( And, at the Cottage: certificates project (in the greatroom) All of the backlogged files from the reunions and our family Christmases are now online. If you submitted files for these two events and don't see the data online, please contact me immediately. Also again, if you visit the pages, please do something for me... make sure there are no beach or Christmas decorations/backgrounds lingering on the page(s) you view. If any links don't work, please let me know right away. Some of the (older) file extensions may be html rather than the htm I assigned. For you newest cousins to the family (since I neglected to add this information in my message yesterday), our site URLs follow: Bower Family Homestead <http://bowercommunity.com/homestead> Bower Cottage <http://bowercommunity.com/cottage> I noticed that while we're finally getting more Baur, Brower and Brouwer information online, those surnames are still sadly lacking. Does anyone have any material they'd like to submit to the Homestead or Cottage? If so, please contact me. I hope you're all having a SUPER Saturday! :) It's snowing here and all I want to do is sleep, sleep, SLEEP! But, no rest for the weary... I'm off to work on my (now) backlogged EMAIL!!! Colleen

I think I can get you the tombstone from my grandmother Talbot [Grace J. Bower Talbot] & my mother's if that's okay. They're both in the same cemetery. Elaine Colleen Pustola wrote: > Hi cousins, > > The first wave of backlogged files is now uploaded. You'll find new > additions to the following areas at the Homestead: > > ancestral wall > bios & personals > vital records > death records > attic (cemetery records) > kitchen > basement (miscellaneous and bits & pieces cabinet) > > If you've forgotten where each Homestead area is, please use our site > map. You will NOT be able to use the search engine for this new data > because there hasn't been enough time for our site to get spidered. For > the next couple days, you'll have to search manually. :( > > These backlogged files I've been working on are from our reunions and > Christmases. If you submitted files for these two events and don't see > the data online, give me a little longer to get the second wave out. > I'm still indexing it and hopefully will have it online tonight or > tomorrow. > > There were nearly 100 files uploaded in this first set. If you visit > the pages, please do something for me... make sure there are no beach or > Christmas decorations/backgrounds lingering on the page(s) you view. If > any links don't work, please let me know right away. Some of the > (older) file extensions may be html rather than the htm I assigned. > > Once again, I apologize to all of you who have been very patiently > waiting to see your material stored. It shouldn't have taken this long, > but we all know what I was going through last year just to keep us > online. Any data you submit this year will most assuredly come out THIS > year! :) > > I hope you're all having a FANTASTIC Friday! :) > > Colleen > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > The Bower Family Homestead, homesite of the Bower mailing list -- > http://bowercommunity.com/homestead Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary

In a message dated 1/26/01 4:16:45 PM Central Standard Time, JBurch8079 writes: My friend keeps sending me BOWER(S) info and I've what I "know" doesn't apply. Just realized I could be sending it in! Never know who's looking! > Bowers, H.J.C. e. 12/20/1863 captured at Atlanta > other Bowers in there > > <A HREF="http://www.iowa-counties.com/blackhawk/civilwar/16th.shtml">Civil War Record and Roster for the Sixteenth Iowa Infantry enlisting from > Black Hawk County Iowa</A> Lita                                           See some of my accomplishments! <A HREF="http://puxplace.homestead.com/Hello.html">Hello</A>     http://puxplace.homestead.com/Hello.html <A HREF="http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=89621">My PhotoPoint Album</A>    http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=89621

Hi cousins, The first wave of backlogged files is now uploaded. You'll find new additions to the following areas at the Homestead: ancestral wall bios & personals vital records death records attic (cemetery records) kitchen basement (miscellaneous and bits & pieces cabinet) If you've forgotten where each Homestead area is, please use our site map. You will NOT be able to use the search engine for this new data because there hasn't been enough time for our site to get spidered. For the next couple days, you'll have to search manually. :( These backlogged files I've been working on are from our reunions and Christmases. If you submitted files for these two events and don't see the data online, give me a little longer to get the second wave out. I'm still indexing it and hopefully will have it online tonight or tomorrow. There were nearly 100 files uploaded in this first set. If you visit the pages, please do something for me... make sure there are no beach or Christmas decorations/backgrounds lingering on the page(s) you view. If any links don't work, please let me know right away. Some of the (older) file extensions may be html rather than the htm I assigned. Once again, I apologize to all of you who have been very patiently waiting to see your material stored. It shouldn't have taken this long, but we all know what I was going through last year just to keep us online. Any data you submit this year will most assuredly come out THIS year! :) I hope you're all having a FANTASTIC Friday! :) Colleen

I see an error in my spelling.....I am sorry! It should have said BELOW my name...... <snip>: everytime I send a message to the Bower List I get this response(see blow my : name), although I see it comes through. : I don't know what the trouble is! Gloria with the red face. ----- Original Message ----- From: "jgmott" <jgmott@wcoil.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 8:05 PM

It just did the same thing to me.....and I was there just a short while ago. Will try again later........ everytime I send a message to the Bower List I get this response(see blow my name), although I see it comes through. I don't know what the trouble is! Gloria <snip> You have attempted to send email to an invalid user at the adelphia.com domain. Currently this domain is not used for email. If you are trying to reach the email address of an Adelphia powerlink subscriber, please send your email to them at adelphia.net. For more information, please see Adelphia Powerlink's home page at http://powerlink.adelphia.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucille" <all@todays-tech.com> To: <BOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [BOWER] 1850 census : When I clicked on this address, all that came up was "this page can not be : opened. Lucille ALL@todays-tech.com : : : ----- Original Message ----- : From: "jgmott" <jgmott@wcoil.com> : To: <BOWER-L@rootsweb.com> : Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 6:22 PM : Subject: [BOWER] 1850 census : : : > There are Bower & Bowers here. Give a moment to load. : > Gloria : > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgibin/ifetch2?/u1/data/oh+index+672089501+F

There are Bower & Bowers here. Give a moment to load. Gloria http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgibin/ifetch2?/u1/data/oh+index+672089501+F

When I clicked on this address, all that came up was "this page can not be opened. Lucille ALL@todays-tech.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "jgmott" <jgmott@wcoil.com> To: <BOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 6:22 PM Subject: [BOWER] 1850 census > There are Bower & Bowers here. Give a moment to load. > Gloria > http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgibin/ifetch2?/u1/data/oh+index+672089501+F > > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <ladyaudris@earthlink.net>. >

Mary, You have my permission. Thank you, Marge ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Teeter" <walmar35@hotmail.com> To: <BOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [BOWER] Bauer, Jacob & Gertraut Schott > Hi, Marguerite, > I would like to add your information below to my Bower(s)/Bauer(s) Research > in PA page with your > permission. It is part of the Bower Cottage Contiuum and can be found at > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/cliffs/5410 > Click on the Bowers Roots on the home page and it will take you to the > county page; would add your > info to the Northampton page. > Thanks > Mary Teeter > > > >From: "Marguerite Bauer" <mbauer@neo.rr.com> > >Reply-To: BOWER-L@rootsweb.com > >To: BOWER-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: [BOWER] Bauer, Jacob & Gertraut Schott > >Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:00:22 -0500 > > > >I have been reading the list for a while, it is very interesting. I am > >searching for the parents of Jacob Bauer b. 8 Feb. 1765. In the 1880 census > >a son said he was born in this country. He d. 1 Jan. 1824 Moore Twp. > >Northamton Co. PA. m. Gertraut-Gertrude Schott 8 Aug.1786. She was b. 3 > >Mar. > >1765. Northampton Co. PA. d.7 Apr. 1843. Dau. of Deabold and Christina > >Elisabetha (Reisen) Schott. > > > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. Have been searching this family for > >30 years. > >Marge > >mbauer@neo.rr.com > > > > > >==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > >The Bower Family Homestead, homesite of the Bower mailing list -- > > http://bowercommunity.com/homestead > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. > >

This was sent from Cyndi Howells list Gloria URL: http://www2.goconcepts.com/~houck1/2/genealogy.htm TITLE: Genealogy DESCRIPTION: HOUCK, MCCARTY, SITLER, WHITMIRE, BOWER. Columbia nd Luzerne Counties, PA.

I do not know what spelling my Bowers came from but I would like to be sent on Colleen for I do know the spelling was changed and my Henry does not fit in any of the Bower or Bowers spelling so far. Vicky Colleen Pustola wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > Earlier this week I received a "help" request from some researching the > Bouwer surname in the former Dutch East Indies and Holland. Do we have > any cousins with us who are working on that spelling? If so, please > contact me and I'll forward this message on. Bower Community has no > help for her. :( > > I hope you're all having a FABULOUS Thursday! :) > > Colleen > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > The Bower Family Homestead, homesite of the Bower mailing list -- > http://bowercommunity.com/homestead

Hi everyone, Earlier this week I received a "help" request from some researching the Bouwer surname in the former Dutch East Indies and Holland. Do we have any cousins with us who are working on that spelling? If so, please contact me and I'll forward this message on. Bower Community has no help for her. :( I hope you're all having a FABULOUS Thursday! :) Colleen

Hi, Marguerite, I would like to add your information below to my Bower(s)/Bauer(s) Research in PA page with your permission. It is part of the Bower Cottage Contiuum and can be found at http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/cliffs/5410 Click on the Bowers Roots on the home page and it will take you to the county page; would add your info to the Northampton page. Thanks Mary Teeter >From: "Marguerite Bauer" <mbauer@neo.rr.com> >Reply-To: BOWER-L@rootsweb.com >To: BOWER-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BOWER] Bauer, Jacob & Gertraut Schott >Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:00:22 -0500 > >I have been reading the list for a while, it is very interesting. I am >searching for the parents of Jacob Bauer b. 8 Feb. 1765. In the 1880 census >a son said he was born in this country. He d. 1 Jan. 1824 Moore Twp. >Northamton Co. PA. m. Gertraut-Gertrude Schott 8 Aug.1786. She was b. 3 >Mar. >1765. Northampton Co. PA. d.7 Apr. 1843. Dau. of Deabold and Christina >Elisabetha (Reisen) Schott. > >Any help would be greatly appreciated. Have been searching this family for >30 years. >Marge >mbauer@neo.rr.com > > >==== BOWER Mailing List ==== >The Bower Family Homestead, homesite of the Bower mailing list -- > http://bowercommunity.com/homestead > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

Hi cousins, Please note that I'm forwarding this from another list. Perhaps this Peter F. BAUER and Louis Conrad BOWERS belongs to one of us? I hope so.... Colleen -------- Original Message -------- Subject: {not a subscriber} Louis Bowers, 1865 New Haven Birth Record Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 16:21:31 -0800 From: Sally <ssaucer@juno.com> To: CTNEWHAV-L@rootsweb.com Posted on: New Haven County, Ct Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/USA/Ct/NewHaven/1388 Surname: Bowers, Bauer, Borie, Kleinfeldt, Littlefield ------------------------- Obituary clipped from a Utica, New York newspaper states that my great grandfather, Louis Herman Conrad BOWERS was born about 1865 in New Haven, Connecticut. I have been told by one of his daughters that Louis was the son of Peter F. BAUER and Mary L. KLEINFELDT (LITTLEFIELD). One of Louis's granddaughters says that the surname was originally BORI~E. (Not sure exactly which letter is supposed to have the tilde.)I still have another 4 months to wait for his death record from the NY State Health Dept. So far, I have no evidence to support anything concerning his parents or alternate surnames. The 1860 Index to New Haven didn't have Peter Bauer or Bowers. Any suggestions on finding a birth record?

I have been to this Gencircles site, and like it very much. Like some of you, don't know how it will be funded, but if legit, some of the features are great, like the smart matching. I like the way it is set up, and it was a big help for me looking for some of my family. Learned quite a bit of new info that I did not have, and am able now to further search this info. I am still looking for Samuel Bowers, b. Greene Co. TN, date unknown, but probably between 1818-1822, son of Jonas Bowers and Elizabeth Betsy Rader. Some info relates that Samuel went to Kentucky, but I believe that he was back in Greene Co., at one time, late 1840's, as he signed as a bondsman in the marriage records there, but he wasn't on the census records 1850, Greene Co., TN. I have no further info on him. Can anyone help with this Samuel Bowers? Brenda Tengelin in WA state

There are a few bowers listed in the Blanchard Township, Hardin County, OH, 1870 Federal Census Gloria http://www.rootsweb.com/~cenfiles/oh/hardin/1870/pg0320a.txt