This seems very strange to me as I have used FamilyTreemaker for several years without problem. I don't subscribe to genealogy Library as I rarely used it but my sister loves it. Must be a recent development. Roberta ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Hinson" <dhinson@kellnet.com> To: <BOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:12 AM Subject: Re: [BOWER] CHAT: Family TreeMaker > Is there any additional info on FamilyTreemaker? > > > > Colleen Pustola wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Once again I find myself having to do a mass mailing to my lists. I've > > just received and confirmed, a message that I received through one of > > the lists I maintain. Something is going on over at > > familytreemaker.com, genforum.com and genealogy.com (Genealogy > > Library). Admittedly, I don't quite have a full grasp of everything > > that's happening, but something negative is DEFINITELY in the happening > > and you need to be forewarned. > > > > If you have not subscribed, and are considering it ... please > > INVESTIGATE FIRST! There are a ton of recent complaints at > > <http://genforum.genealogy.com/genlibrary/>. > > > > Below is the message I received this morning and followed up on. You > > might want to do the same: > > > > "Familytreemaker (FTM) (Genealogy.Com) is on the run. They are not > > returning customers' emails and are not answering the phone. When they > > do answer their phone, they promise to call back and don't. FTM is still > > pushing their products by continuing to answer the sales line, but > > neglecting existing customers by NOT answering the customer service > > line. This is fundamental dishonesty. I believe FTM customers are within > > their rights to use whatever means possible to get the attention of FTM. > > I intend to hit them where it hurts until I receive a return phone > > call. This will include brokerage houses and retail sales outlets and > > genealogy societies and publishers. > > > > "I bought my Family Tree Maker software at Sam's. I intend to contact > > every company I can find in thr FTM supply line, including distributors. > > Also, contact every genealogical society and every genealogical > > publication. Just so these people can read about it themselves, I'm > > including the site addresses. > > > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/genlibrary/ > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/genforum/ > > > > "Toy giant Mattel Inc. owns Genealogy.Com along with partners, A&E > > Television Networks, Hearst Corp., Thomas H. Lee Partners, and Weston > > Presidio Capital. The genealogy Web site was set by The Learning Co.'s > > Broderbund unit. Call your broker. I smell another dot com business > > failure, don't you?" > > > > Hugh > > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > > If you have comments to make to this message and elect to make them to > > everyone, please be sure to start your subject line with CHAT: so that > > those people electing not to read this thread can simply delete the > > message. I will ask that you please read what's happening before you > > make comments. > > > > Newbies, you especially need to be careful. The sites mentioned in this > > mentioned have previously been reputable. They are the makers of a > > major genealogy program you see in stores (FamilyTree Maker). > > > > I wish you all a marvelously magical Monday! :) > > > > Colleen > > > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > > Bower Cottage, sister site to the Bower Family Homestead, homesites of > > the Bower research group -- http://bowercommunity.com/cottage > > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > To post messages to the Bower discussion list, send them to > BOWER-L@rootsweb.com > >

Donna, If you hear from anyone regarding your query, I'd appreciate being forwarded that information. This Warren Co., KY William Bowers, born about 1883 in NC, could possibly be my lost William (recall the hypothetical Andrew Bowers FGS I previously sent you), although it's a long shot to be sure. Thanks. Robert Donna Hinson wrote: > Is anyone on the list working on Bowers in Warren Co. KY? William, age > 67, b. NC in 1850 census. There are others. Was next to Todd Co. which > is one area I am researching. > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you.

Is anyone on the list working on Bowers in Warren Co. KY? William, age 67, b. NC in 1850 census. There are others. Was next to Todd Co. which is one area I am researching.

I'm trying to locate Vicky Hutchings who's also working on Bowers and wonder if she's on the list. If so, please email me. Donna

I rec'd a note asking if I knew anything about Mary Bowers. The individual is working on the surname Deans (another one of mine too) but would like to know about the spouse. Right now, I don't know of a connection to my group but wonder if anyone out there might recognize any names and might help us. These families later lived in Nash Co. and then Wayne Co. area, NC Daniel Deans married Mary Bowers abt. 1762 in Hertford Co., NC. Children: Dempsey b. 1763 James b. 1765 Daniel b. 1767 Bartlett b. 1769 George b. 1770 John b. 1771 Sarah b. 1773 Elizabeth, b. 1775 Tarlisha b. 1777 Lydia b. 1779.

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: New BOWER Obituaries Post Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:42:37 -0700 From: genconnect@genconnect.rootsweb.com To: ladyaudris@earthlink.net BOWER Obituaries A new message, "Hannah Rutherford nee Bower," was posted by Debbie Konietzki on Sun, 18 Mar 2001 Surname: Bower, Rutherford, Charlesworth --- NAME: Debbie Konietzki EMAIL: Kkonet2@aol.com DATE: Mar 18 2001 QRYTEXT: Whitewater, Wisconsin Mrs. Hannah BOWER RUTHERFORD passed to her home beyond, Saturday November 28, 1901. She was born in Poughkeepsie, New York, in 1830; came to Wisconsin in her youth and to Whitewater (Walworth Co. WI), in 1865. She was married to John RUTHERFORD January 1, 1852. If she had lived until the New Year they expected to celebrate their golden wedding. Three children and their families remain to comfort the father - George RUTHERFORD, Mrs. Sarah NOEL of this city, and Mrs. Emma BAILEY of Koshkonong. Mrs. RUTHERFORD was sick for three months, but bore her sufferings patiently. The funeral was held from their home on Walworth Avenue Saturday afternoon. Rev. F. V. Stevens of the Congregational church spoke words of consolation to the sorrowing ones. The ladies' trio of the M.E. church rendered appropriate music. Flowers in profusion were around the loved form. James and George WOOD, of Milwaukee, nephew of the deceased, attended the funeral. Mrs. D. HYMERS, a sister of Mr. RUTHERFORD, a niece, Mrs.(Mary) WHITE, both of Monroe, also attended and Miss Maud LANE of Beloit Hannah was the daughter of William BOWER and Sarah CHARLESWORTH who were originally from Yorkshire, England. . This is an automatically-generated notice. <http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/b/o/BOWER/obituaries?admin>

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: New BOWER Obituaries Post Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:20:00 -0700 From: genconnect@genconnect.rootsweb.com To: ladyaudris@earthlink.net BOWER Obituaries A new message, "Sarah Ann Wood nee Bower," was posted by Debbie Konietzki on Sun, 18 Mar 2001 Surname: Wood, Bower, Charlesworth --- NAME: Debbie Konietzki EMAIL: Kkonet2@aol.com DATE: Mar 18 2001 QRYTEXT: 1868 In this city (Milwaukee, Wisconsin), on the 7th inst.,Mrs. Sarah A. WOOD (wife of William WOOD), aged 30 years. Funeral from the residence, 677 Franklin Street, Tuesday afternoon, at 2 o'clock. **Note by submitter: Sarah BOWER - WOOD was the sister to William WOOD's first wife, Emma. See Emma Wood's obituary for more family information.. This is an automatically-generated notice. <http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/b/o/BOWER/obituaries?admin>

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: New BOWER Obituaries Post Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 21:07:50 -0700 From: genconnect@genconnect.rootsweb.com To: ladyaudris@earthlink.net BOWER Obituaries A new message, "Emma Wood nee Bower," was posted by Debbie Konietzki on Sun, 18 Mar 2001 Surname: Bower, Wood, Charlesworth --- NAME: Debbie Konietzki EMAIL: Kkonet2@aol.com DATE: Mar 18 2001 QRYTEXT: Died (at her residence of 677 Franklin Street) in this city (Milwaukee, Wisconsin), on the (April) 10th, 1864, Mrs. Emma, wife of William WOOD, age 41 years, 2 months,and 29 days. Mrs. WOOD was a person who combined in a wonderful degree those qualities of head and heart which fitted her to adorn the sphere in which she moved. Naturally of a diffifent and retiring disposition, she shrank from all display of herself; yet she lived long enough to prove her absolute control over the hearts of a large circle of friends who will deeply lament the loss of one so cheerful, amiable and kind. As wife mother and friend, her loss will be greatly felt and deeply lamented. About a year since she gave herself heartily and unconditionally to the Saviour, and soon after made a public profession of her faith in Christ by uniting with the Astor Street Church. Since then she has greatly endeared ehrself to the Church and community by her blameless life and consistent Christian character. "Lone are the paths, and sad the bowers, Whence thy meek smile is gone; But oh! a brighter home than ours, In Heaven, is now thine own. Dearest sister! thou hast left us; Here thy loss we deeply feel; But 'tis God that hath bereft us, He can all our sorrows heal." Funeral from the Astor Street Church, on Tuesday at 10 o'clock a.m. **Note by submitter: Emma Bower Wood was the daughter of William Bower and Sarah CHARLESWORTH who originally were from Yorkshire, England. She left behind her mother Sarah BOWER - COCKROFT, two sisters, Hannah RUTHERFORD and Emma BOWER, three brothers, Joseph C., William and James H. BOWER. Emma died during childbirth and was the (1st) wife of William WOOD, builder and senior member of the Milwaukee real estate firm of William Wood and Son. . This is an automatically-generated notice. <http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/b/o/BOWER/obituaries?admin>

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: New BOWER Obituaries Post Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:26:20 -0700 From: genconnect@genconnect.rootsweb.com To: ladyaudris@earthlink.net BOWER Obituaries A new message, "Adelia Ann Bower nee Marsh," was posted by Debbie Konietzki on Sun, 18 Mar 2001 Surname: Bower, Marsh --- NAME: Debbie Konietzki EMAIL: Kkonet2@aol.com DATE: Mar 18 2001 QRYTEXT: BOWER-Died at her home in this city, at 5 o'clock, Friday morning, February first, 1889, Mrs. Adelia Ann BOWER, wife of Joseph C. BOWER, aged 63 years, 7 months, and 12 days. Thus is ended the life record of another of Whitewater's (Wisconsin)older residents. The summons came to her after a long and painful illness from cancerous tumor, the ravages of which, the skill of physicians and surgeons was impotent to stay. Throughout her illness she maintained a cheerful courage and fortitude which was little short of marvellous to those who witnessed it. When the end came she was fully prepared and sank painlessly and peacefully into the embrace of Death. Adelia Ann Marsh was born in Ferrisburgh, Addison Co., Vermont, June 18th, 1825. Removed to Newburgh, now the 18th ward of Cleveland, Ohio, in 1832, thence to Wisconsin in 1844, where she was married to J. C. BOWER in 1855. Besides her husband, she leaves two sons and two daughters all of whom have arrived at years of maturity, to mourn the loss of an exceptionally kind and indulgent wife and mother. The funeral services were held at the Universalist church, with which she had long been connected, on Sunday, Feb. 3rd, at 2 o'clock p.m. The services were conducted by the pastor, Rev. Geo. H. Hastings, and wer attended by the members of the Rebecca degree and Halcyon lodge I.O. O. F. and a large concourse of friends who filled the auditiorium to its utmost capacity. The remains were laid to rest in Hillside cemetery. . This is an automatically-generated notice. <http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/b/o/BOWER/obituaries?admin>

-------- Original Message -------- Subject: New BOWER Obituaries Post Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 20:08:54 -0700 From: genconnect@genconnect.rootsweb.com To: ladyaudris@earthlink.net BOWER Obituaries A new message, "Mrs. William (Clarissa E.) Bower," was posted by Debbie Konietzki on Sun, 18 Mar 2001 Surname: Bower --- NAME: Debbie Konietzki EMAIL: Kkonet2@aol.com DATE: Mar 18 2001 QRYTEXT: BOWER-At her home on George street, on Tuesday, May 27, 1890, of heart trouble, Mrs. Clarissa E. BOWER, died in the 59th year of her age. She was born at Nassua, N.H. and was married to Wm. BOWER in 1848. Together they have resided in Whitewater, Wisconsin for the past 33 years. The funeral will be from the house at 2 p.m, today, Rev. J. E. Schindler officiating.. This is an automatically-generated notice. <http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/b/o/BOWER/obituaries?admin>

Hi everyone, Once again I find myself having to do a mass mailing to my lists. I've just received and confirmed, a message that I received through one of the lists I maintain. Something is going on over at familytreemaker.com, genforum.com and genealogy.com (Genealogy Library). Admittedly, I don't quite have a full grasp of everything that's happening, but something negative is DEFINITELY in the happening and you need to be forewarned. If you have not subscribed, and are considering it ... please INVESTIGATE FIRST! There are a ton of recent complaints at <http://genforum.genealogy.com/genlibrary/>. Below is the message I received this morning and followed up on. You might want to do the same: "Familytreemaker (FTM) (Genealogy.Com) is on the run. They are not returning customers' emails and are not answering the phone. When they do answer their phone, they promise to call back and don't. FTM is still pushing their products by continuing to answer the sales line, but neglecting existing customers by NOT answering the customer service line. This is fundamental dishonesty. I believe FTM customers are within their rights to use whatever means possible to get the attention of FTM. I intend to hit them where it hurts until I receive a return phone call. This will include brokerage houses and retail sales outlets and genealogy societies and publishers. "I bought my Family Tree Maker software at Sam's. I intend to contact every company I can find in thr FTM supply line, including distributors. Also, contact every genealogical society and every genealogical publication. Just so these people can read about it themselves, I'm including the site addresses. http://genforum.genealogy.com/genlibrary/ http://genforum.genealogy.com/genforum/ "Toy giant Mattel Inc. owns Genealogy.Com along with partners, A&E Television Networks, Hearst Corp., Thomas H. Lee Partners, and Weston Presidio Capital. The genealogy Web site was set by The Learning Co.'s Broderbund unit. Call your broker. I smell another dot com business failure, don't you?" Hugh +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ If you have comments to make to this message and elect to make them to everyone, please be sure to start your subject line with CHAT: so that those people electing not to read this thread can simply delete the message. I will ask that you please read what's happening before you make comments. Newbies, you especially need to be careful. The sites mentioned in this mentioned have previously been reputable. They are the makers of a major genealogy program you see in stores (FamilyTree Maker). I wish you all a marvelously magical Monday! :) Colleen

Dear List, I'll be away all this week attending a conference/workshop in Colorado Springs -- through Friday night. So, I'll be un-subing till then. Be Well, Ron Myers

>From Tombstone inscriptions for Henry Co. MO Vol 2: in Hickory Grove Cemetery, located 3.5 miles east of Shawnee Mound, in Tabo Twp: BOWERS, ALBERT B., b 24 July 1875, s/o J G & M R. BOWERS, EDDIE, 9 NOV 1876-22 oCT 1877, s/o JG & MR. BOWERS, FLORENCE E., d 21 Dec 1893 age 15 y 3 m 28 d. BOWERS, infant, 4 Apr 1887 - 5 May 1887, d/o JG & MR. BOWERS, JOHN R., 11 Sept 1842 - 13 Apr 1919. BOWERS, LAURA L., 11880-1907, wife of ROY BRICKER. BOWERS, MARY R., 29 Jan 1846- 5 Mar 1917, wife of JOHN R. BOWERS, WILLIE, 20 April 1882-29 June 1882. BRICKER, LAURA L., 1880-1907, Wife of Roy. BRICKER, OPAL M., 21 Aug 1900-25 May 1914, d/o JR & LL BRICKER, JOHN ROY, 1878-1929.

at Mineral Creek Cemetery, located in Post Oak Twp at the Town of Leeton: BOWERS, AUDREY BERNETTA, 1909-1910 BOWERS, FOREST EARL, 1910-1912 BOWERS, FRANCES S, 1878-1918 , wife of Oscar G. BOWERS, OSCAR G., b 1872 d 11 Jan 1963. BOWERS, REBA FRANCES, 1916-1923.

Johnson Co. MO tombstone inscriptions lists RUBEY C. BOWERS, 7 July 1891-20 Apr 1901, son of G L & M A in High Point Cemetery, located in Jefferson Twp, section 7, T44 R25. Maybe he belongs to somebody. Jan T

Hi cousins, Okay... I've just spent the past three hours working on the page and ended up rebuilding it; I never did figure out what the hangup was. But, all is better now and working on both Netscape and I.E. browsers. :) I hope you're all having a wonderful St. Patrick's Day! Colleen

Colleen, Hope you have a good sleep, I just downloaded the new page I have Internet Ex. it is so pretty, Thanks for all your hard work in getting this done. It looks like my yard right now I have all the red bud trees & peach blooming everything is coming up like roses. Hope you are feeling better. Barbara Bower Argo ----- Original Message ----- From: Colleen Pustola <ladyaudris@earthlink.net> To: <BOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 5:58 AM Subject: [BOWER] CHAT: SPRING PAGE ONLINE AT HOMESTEAD > Hi cousins, > > I just uploaded our new spring page (as we have snow falling here...) at > the Homestead. I hope you like it. > > I need to tell you though, that there's a problem with viewing the page > in Netscape. The page stops 3/4 of the way down, just under the house > graphic. There IS more below it, including instructions to click on the > door to enter the house. It's 4:53 a.m. right now, I've been sick for 3 > days... I'm just not going to fight with it anymore tonight/this > morning. If you know HTML, please read the source code for the page's > body and tell me what the problem is. > > The page is loading fine on Internet Explorer... all of it. > > I just knew I needed to get this page online before March 21st... the > first day of spring. It just would NOT do to have spring begin and we > still have our winter page up! I'll have another look for the problem > later on today or tomorrow... whichever clears my head enough first to > think. :) > > Okay everyone, I'm headed for some much needed sleep. I hope you all > have a wonderfully happy ST. PATRICK'S DAY!!! :) > > Colleen > > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. > >

Hi cousins, I just uploaded our new spring page (as we have snow falling here...) at the Homestead. I hope you like it. I need to tell you though, that there's a problem with viewing the page in Netscape. The page stops 3/4 of the way down, just under the house graphic. There IS more below it, including instructions to click on the door to enter the house. It's 4:53 a.m. right now, I've been sick for 3 days... I'm just not going to fight with it anymore tonight/this morning. If you know HTML, please read the source code for the page's body and tell me what the problem is. The page is loading fine on Internet Explorer... all of it. I just knew I needed to get this page online before March 21st... the first day of spring. It just would NOT do to have spring begin and we still have our winter page up! I'll have another look for the problem later on today or tomorrow... whichever clears my head enough first to think. :) Okay everyone, I'm headed for some much needed sleep. I hope you all have a wonderfully happy ST. PATRICK'S DAY!!! :) Colleen

Hi! I really don't know...but there is an "Upper Canada" mailing list that I'm a part of. I got this particular info, though, when I sent a note to the Leeds-Grenville, Ont. mailing list. There was a very nice and helpful woman named Janis who sent the info to me in no time at all! I'd sign up for those lists at roosweb mailing lists...and hopefully you'll have as much success as I did! Good luck, B *********************************************************** Anything you can do...or dream you can...Begin It! Boldness has Genius, Power, and Magic in it... -Geothe ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Myers" <myers@rohan.sdsu.edu> To: <BOWER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 4:26 PM Subject: Re: [BOWER] Maragret Bower, Ontario > Hi Bonnie, > > How far back doe this "Marriage Reg. of Upper Canada" extend? And, when can it be found? I have a major brich -- that's German for brick :-) -- wall which has potential traces into upper Canada and back during the late 1700s. > > Ron Myers > > Marc and Bonnie wrote: > > > Hi all! > > > > I'm in the midst of that frustrating genealogical experience known as "searching for your female ancestors." I'm hot on the trail of my 3rd great grandmother...and I'm hoping some of you can help! Her name was Margaret, and she was born abt. 1831. I'd like to know about her family...parents, sibs, and would like to make connections with living Bowers of her line, if possible. Here's what I have... > > > > In the Marriage Reg. of Upper Canada > > Marriages by Rev'd Wyatt Chamberlain > > Wesleyan Methodist[for1854??, filed with the clerk of the Peace, January 3rd 1855] > > Edgar Hawkins 21, to Margaret Bower 22. By Licence. > > > > She and Edgar had a daugher, Phoebe, in 1853. She was born in the area of what is now Ahens, Ontario. > > > > Does this ring any bells for anyone? > > > > B > > *********************************************************** > > Anything you can do...or dream you can...Begin It! > > Boldness has Genius, Power, and Magic in it... > > -Geothe > > > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > > Bower Cottage, sister site to the Bower Family Homestead, homesites of > > the Bower research group -- http://bowercommunity.com/cottage > > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <ladyaudris@earthlink.net>. > > Shop online without a credit card http://www.rocketcash.com RocketCash, a NetZero subsidiary

Please unsubscribe me from your service. -----Original Message----- From: Colleen Pustola [mailto:ladyaudris@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 1:07 PM To: BOWER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOWER] UNSUBSCRIBE Hi Rob, I'm glad you sent this message to me over the top of Donna's because if you received Donna's message through your <pabauer@excel-technology.com> addy, I don't know how or why. I unsubbed you from the pabauer addy last week. Do you still have Donna Hinson's message showing you received it through your <pabauer@excel-technology.com> address? If so, please send it to me with the FULL HEADERS so I can see what's going on. I may have to have Rootsweb step in to help us out. Thanks, Rob. I hope this finds you having a wildly WONDERFUL Wednesday! :) Colleen Rob Parks wrote: > > Please UNSUBSCRIBE the email address, pabauer@excel-technology.com, from > this mailing list. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Donna Hinson [mailto:dhinson@kellnet.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2001 10:48 AM > To: BOWER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [BOWER] Bowers on 1895 Map of Southampton, VA > > I rec'd this from another surname list. Even though it's 1895, you can > see Bowers on the map. Notice on the county line of Southampton and > Isle of Wight. Does anyone know if they appear on earlier maps...I know > they were in the area in 1700's. > > <A HREF="http://www.livgenmi.com/southamptonVA.htm">SOUTHAMPTON COUNTY > VIRGINIA 1895</A> > > or > > http://www.livgenmi.com/southamptonVA.htm > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > Please do not send messages with attachments, HTML, MIME, or any other > enhanced text to the list. RootsWeb does not allow messages with those > settings through their servers and will only return them to you. > > ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== > Need to reach Colleen, the discussion coordinator? Send her an email > at <ladyaudris@earthlink.net>. ==== BOWER Mailing List ==== The Bower Family Homestead, homesite of the Bower mailing list -- http://bowercommunity.com/homestead