This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BowesOneNameStudy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bowe/44.1.2.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi, this line from John m. Margaret Walsh came up again over here http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bowe/379.1/mb.ashx. I checked the Bowe(s) One-Name Study spreadsheet and family tree database and came up with (posted on the other thread): "We have a James b. 1779 in Freshford with a large descendant tree, many of whom eventually ended up in Australia. He had a brother John b. abt 1772. The family has nothing more on this John. Their father was a Thomas Bow b. 1750. Of course John Bowe was a very common name, but this marriage shortly before William was born is suggestive for now." I can't connect my own tree to this tree due to lack of early parish records, but my father's DNA matches the male Bowe descending from James son of Thomas. Also on his marriage record it says he was from "Grace" which refers to Grace parish, aka Tullaroan, next to Freshford. So I'm keen on this group. This is the largest Bowe family tree we have so far. Another large branch went to Newfoundland and some of them on to the US (see Diane's post here). My people wen to NY. There are a few other matches we can't connect by paper trail yet. If you descend from James son of Thomas' brother John, I would so love to connect your tree into this one. We are trying to reconstruct the Irish Bowe clan as best as possible. If the connection is strongly suggested but not proven I make a note of it if connecting a line. If a male Bowe on your line could do the cheek swab, Y chromosome DNA test as part of our DNA project, it could help confirm whether you come from this subgroup. If you look at our results, go to the 5th green group (Ireland). That's the cluster we're looking at out of Freshford. You see that only the earliest known ancestors show publicly (ie not the name of the testee) and Thomas b. 1750 is at the top of this group. These are the markers of a male Bowe descending from James from Freshford who had a brother John b. abt 1772. Assuming an unbroken patrilineal chain, your males should have the same markers if they were brothers (can't rule out cousins). Martha Bowes bowessurnames[atsign]gmail[dot]com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.