This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: BowesOneNameStudy Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bowe/379.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Glad to hear back from you. What you're calling, fairly enough, a guess, I'm looking at as a hypothesis to be tested, absent a better one ;-) Do you remember this thread below that I found at Ancestry that you'd also posted in?... Bowie186: "There was a William and Richard Bowe who were sent to Australia in 1832. Their Father was John Bowe and he married Margret Walsh he came from Castlecomer and she came from Freshford both in Kilkenny. I am trying to track down more information about John Bowe but keep hitting brick walls." http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?o=0&m=44.1.2.1.2&p=surnames.bowe If we can establish that you connect with this other fella, then maybe he has a male to test. I've posted in this thread yesterday and today. Maybe he's still following and we can all firm up the sources we're using to see what we can hang our hat on. IE, where do each of you get Margaret Walsh as John's spouse? Where does he get Richard as a brother to William, both son of John and sent away as convicts in 1832? If he knows, say from his own family history as passed down, that his John married a Margaret Walsh from Freshford, and if it can be found that you are related to the same John and son William, then we get closer. Then it sounds like he is looking for John to be born in Castlecomer because that's where he was in 1832, maybe not understanding it's not at all unlikely that he could have moved to Castlecomer from Freshford, and there's a detailed family lineage out of Freshford with a John born late 1700s who's otherwise unaccounted for. These are my Bowe, which is why I'm keen on knowing more about yours and Bowie186's sources, and whether he or she has any male Bowe to help with DNA. If if it all came together, we most likely get to "were they brothers or cousins," but it helps if papers and DNA both point to a geographic area to at least say, "good chance it was John b. 1772 or a cousin" or "part of this group and likely from here." Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.