http://www.masthof.com/bookstore/bookstore_viewbook.php?id=693 -- Steve Bottorff --- On Wed, 12/8/10, Jay Bottorff <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jay Bottorff <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 11:54 AM Brian, Do you have a link to reference to the book you are citing? Do you happen to have a copy of it yourself? Thank you! Jay Bottorff Brother of Ray Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Bottorff Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents Have you tried the "Batdorf Family History" by Viginia Faust Batdirf? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Bottorff Jr" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:47 PM Subject: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents > > Hoping to pick up on posts my brother Jay posted in the late 1990s and > 2000s... some more detail which I hope generates a response here: > > > I am looking for my Great-Grandfather's parents and hopefully > Grandparents. Once I get this I can tie the rest of the family into the > existing Bottorff family tree. > > Here is the info. > > John Martin Bottorff > Born Sept 1873 near Cliuspeing, Indiana, died sometime in the 1950s or > early 1960s in Bedford, Indiana. > Shows up in the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census, last name appears to > have been misspelled, Buttorff or Battorff on some of them. > > Maybe, maybe appears as John M Buttorff in the 1880 census (being born in > 1871), with parents George and Sallie. > > (However Sallie shows later up with daughter Margaret (or Nettie in 1900 > and 1910 census as a widow as Sarah Buttorff. Margaret, as Margaret > Buttorff living with sister known then as Amanda E Norman in 1920 census. > Margaret is in the Madison State Hospital institution as Bottorff in the > 1930 census...therefore clouding what name John Martin was born under > originally, if this is the same John Martin). > > John married Rebecca Fredona Clark, Feb 28, 1891 (named Rebcoa Fredona and > Fredona R and Rebecca in 1900 - 1930 censuses). No able to locate her any > earlier in the census, but family legend states she was Cherokee Indiana > adopted into the Clark family. However all census records list her as > white. > > John and Rebecca had the following children: > > Harry Oscar (23 Mar 1892 - 16 Sep 1903) > Otis William (18 Dec 1896 - 1964), married Flora B about 1917 > Ethel M (Oct 1899 - 20 Apr 1988), married and divorced a Mr. Lee between > the 1920 and 1930 census, had children Mary Maxin Lee (b 1923) and Barbara > Lee (b 1925) > Cecil K (9 Jun 1902 - 13 Feb 1977) married Flossie Lee (1905-1990) and had > at least two children, Robert E (1922-2004) and Mary Lou (1933-2004). Mary > used to be active in genealogical circles up to her death and had contact > with my brother who started this research in the 1990s. > Opal V (about 1907 - ?) > and my grandfather: > Walter Edgar (19 Dec 1912 - 2 Dec 1949) married Inez Edith Luukkonen and > fathered > Clark Richard (1941 - ), Rodney Ralph (1942 - ), Ray Sheldon (my dad, > 1945 - ), Arlen Otto (1946 - ), and Martin Lamont (1949 - ) > > I am hoping some has a link to John Martin in their own trees, maybe some > of those who are distant cousins have better historical contact with John > Martin and know more of his past. My grandfather dying so young cut my > family off from that side of the family tree and therefore its history, > except what my grandmother could remember. > > So if anyone has any info, please reply! > > Thanks! > my best > Ray Bottorff Jr > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thank you Steve! Jay -----Original Message----- From: Steve B Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:11 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents http://www.masthof.com/bookstore/bookstore_viewbook.php?id=693 -- Steve Bottorff --- On Wed, 12/8/10, Jay Bottorff <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jay Bottorff <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 11:54 AM Brian, Do you have a link to reference to the book you are citing? Do you happen to have a copy of it yourself? Thank you! Jay Bottorff Brother of Ray Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Bottorff Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents Have you tried the "Batdorf Family History" by Viginia Faust Batdirf? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Bottorff Jr" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:47 PM Subject: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents > > Hoping to pick up on posts my brother Jay posted in the late 1990s and > 2000s... some more detail which I hope generates a response here: > > > I am looking for my Great-Grandfather's parents and hopefully > Grandparents. Once I get this I can tie the rest of the family into the > existing Bottorff family tree. > > Here is the info. > > John Martin Bottorff > Born Sept 1873 near Cliuspeing, Indiana, died sometime in the 1950s or > early 1960s in Bedford, Indiana. > Shows up in the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census, last name appears to > have been misspelled, Buttorff or Battorff on some of them. > > Maybe, maybe appears as John M Buttorff in the 1880 census (being born in > 1871), with parents George and Sallie. > > (However Sallie shows later up with daughter Margaret (or Nettie in 1900 > and 1910 census as a widow as Sarah Buttorff. Margaret, as Margaret > Buttorff living with sister known then as Amanda E Norman in 1920 census. > Margaret is in the Madison State Hospital institution as Bottorff in the > 1930 census...therefore clouding what name John Martin was born under > originally, if this is the same John Martin). > > John married Rebecca Fredona Clark, Feb 28, 1891 (named Rebcoa Fredona and > Fredona R and Rebecca in 1900 - 1930 censuses). No able to locate her any > earlier in the census, but family legend states she was Cherokee Indiana > adopted into the Clark family. However all census records list her as > white. > > John and Rebecca had the following children: > > Harry Oscar (23 Mar 1892 - 16 Sep 1903) > Otis William (18 Dec 1896 - 1964), married Flora B about 1917 > Ethel M (Oct 1899 - 20 Apr 1988), married and divorced a Mr. Lee between > the 1920 and 1930 census, had children Mary Maxin Lee (b 1923) and Barbara > Lee (b 1925) > Cecil K (9 Jun 1902 - 13 Feb 1977) married Flossie Lee (1905-1990) and had > at least two children, Robert E (1922-2004) and Mary Lou (1933-2004). Mary > used to be active in genealogical circles up to her death and had contact > with my brother who started this research in the 1990s. > Opal V (about 1907 - ?) > and my grandfather: > Walter Edgar (19 Dec 1912 - 2 Dec 1949) married Inez Edith Luukkonen and > fathered > Clark Richard (1941 - ), Rodney Ralph (1942 - ), Ray Sheldon (my dad, > 1945 - ), Arlen Otto (1946 - ), and Martin Lamont (1949 - ) > > I am hoping some has a link to John Martin in their own trees, maybe some > of those who are distant cousins have better historical contact with John > Martin and know more of his past. My grandfather dying so young cut my > family off from that side of the family tree and therefore its history, > except what my grandmother could remember. > > So if anyone has any info, please reply! > > Thanks! > my best > Ray Bottorff Jr > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Thanks Steve! my best -Ray -----Original Message----- From: Steve B <[email protected]> To: bottorff <[email protected]> Sent: Wed, Dec 8, 2010 7:11 am Subject: Re: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents http://www.masthof.com/bookstore/bookstore_viewbook.php?id=693 -- Steve Bottorff --- On Wed, 12/8/10, Jay Bottorff <[email protected]> wrote: From: Jay Bottorff <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, December 8, 2010, 11:54 AM Brian, Do you have a link to reference to the book you are citing? Do you happen to have a copy of it yourself? Thank you! Jay Bottorff Brother of Ray Jr. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Bottorff Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 12:43 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents Have you tried the "Batdorf Family History" by Viginia Faust Batdirf? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Bottorff Jr" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:47 PM Subject: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents > > Hoping to pick up on posts my brother Jay posted in the late 1990s and > 2000s... some more detail which I hope generates a response here: > > > I am looking for my Great-Grandfather's parents and hopefully > Grandparents. Once I get this I can tie the rest of the family into the > existing Bottorff family tree. > > Here is the info. > > John Martin Bottorff > Born Sept 1873 near Cliuspeing, Indiana, died sometime in the 1950s or > early 1960s in Bedford, Indiana. > Shows up in the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census, last name appears to > have been misspelled, Buttorff or Battorff on some of them. > > Maybe, maybe appears as John M Buttorff in the 1880 census (being born in > 1871), with parents George and Sallie. > > (However Sallie shows later up with daughter Margaret (or Nettie in 1900 > and 1910 census as a widow as Sarah Buttorff. Margaret, as Margaret > Buttorff living with sister known then as Amanda E Norman in 1920 census. > Margaret is in the Madison State Hospital institution as Bottorff in the > 1930 census...therefore clouding what name John Martin was born under > originally, if this is the same John Martin). > > John married Rebecca Fredona Clark, Feb 28, 1891 (named Rebcoa Fredona and > Fredona R and Rebecca in 1900 - 1930 censuses). No able to locate her any > earlier in the census, but family legend states she was Cherokee Indiana > adopted into the Clark family. However all census records list her as > white. > > John and Rebecca had the following children: > > Harry Oscar (23 Mar 1892 - 16 Sep 1903) > Otis William (18 Dec 1896 - 1964), married Flora B about 1917 > Ethel M (Oct 1899 - 20 Apr 1988), married and divorced a Mr. Lee between > the 1920 and 1930 census, had children Mary Maxin Lee (b 1923) and Barbara > Lee (b 1925) > Cecil K (9 Jun 1902 - 13 Feb 1977) married Flossie Lee (1905-1990) and had > at least two children, Robert E (1922-2004) and Mary Lou (1933-2004). Mary > used to be active in genealogical circles up to her death and had contact > with my brother who started this research in the 1990s. > Opal V (about 1907 - ?) > and my grandfather: > Walter Edgar (19 Dec 1912 - 2 Dec 1949) married Inez Edith Luukkonen and > fathered > Clark Richard (1941 - ), Rodney Ralph (1942 - ), Ray Sheldon (my dad, > 1945 - ), Arlen Otto (1946 - ), and Martin Lamont (1949 - ) > > I am hoping some has a link to John Martin in their own trees, maybe some > of those who are distant cousins have better historical contact with John > Martin and know more of his past. My grandfather dying so young cut my > family off from that side of the family tree and therefore its history, > except what my grandmother could remember. > > So if anyone has any info, please reply! > > Thanks! > my best > Ray Bottorff Jr > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message