Hoping to pick up on posts my brother Jay posted in the late 1990s and 2000s... some more detail which I hope generates a response here: I am looking for my Great-Grandfather's parents and hopefully Grandparents. Once I get this I can tie the rest of the family into the existing Bottorff family tree. Here is the info. John Martin Bottorff Born Sept 1873 near Cliuspeing, Indiana, died sometime in the 1950s or early 1960s in Bedford, Indiana. Shows up in the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census, last name appears to have been misspelled, Buttorff or Battorff on some of them. Maybe, maybe appears as John M Buttorff in the 1880 census (being born in 1871), with parents George and Sallie. (However Sallie shows later up with daughter Margaret (or Nettie in 1900 and 1910 census as a widow as Sarah Buttorff. Margaret, as Margaret Buttorff living with sister known then as Amanda E Norman in 1920 census. Margaret is in the Madison State Hospital institution as Bottorff in the 1930 census...therefore clouding what name John Martin was born under originally, if this is the same John Martin). John married Rebecca Fredona Clark, Feb 28, 1891 (named Rebcoa Fredona and Fredona R and Rebecca in 1900 - 1930 censuses). No able to locate her any earlier in the census, but family legend states she was Cherokee Indiana adopted into the Clark family. However all census records list her as white. John and Rebecca had the following children: Harry Oscar (23 Mar 1892 - 16 Sep 1903) Otis William (18 Dec 1896 - 1964), married Flora B about 1917 Ethel M (Oct 1899 - 20 Apr 1988), married and divorced a Mr. Lee between the 1920 and 1930 census, had children Mary Maxin Lee (b 1923) and Barbara Lee (b 1925) Cecil K (9 Jun 1902 - 13 Feb 1977) married Flossie Lee (1905-1990) and had at least two children, Robert E (1922-2004) and Mary Lou (1933-2004). Mary used to be active in genealogical circles up to her death and had contact with my brother who started this research in the 1990s. Opal V (about 1907 - ?) and my grandfather: Walter Edgar (19 Dec 1912 - 2 Dec 1949) married Inez Edith Luukkonen and fathered Clark Richard (1941 - ), Rodney Ralph (1942 - ), Ray Sheldon (my dad, 1945 - ), Arlen Otto (1946 - ), and Martin Lamont (1949 - ) I am hoping some has a link to John Martin in their own trees, maybe some of those who are distant cousins have better historical contact with John Martin and know more of his past. My grandfather dying so young cut my family off from that side of the family tree and therefore its history, except what my grandmother could remember. So if anyone has any info, please reply! Thanks! my best Ray Bottorff Jr

Have you tried the "Batdorf Family History" by Viginia Faust Batdirf? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Bottorff Jr" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 7:47 PM Subject: [BOTTORFF] John Martin Bottorff's parents/grandparents > > Hoping to pick up on posts my brother Jay posted in the late 1990s and > 2000s... some more detail which I hope generates a response here: > > > I am looking for my Great-Grandfather's parents and hopefully > Grandparents. Once I get this I can tie the rest of the family into the > existing Bottorff family tree. > > Here is the info. > > John Martin Bottorff > Born Sept 1873 near Cliuspeing, Indiana, died sometime in the 1950s or > early 1960s in Bedford, Indiana. > Shows up in the 1900, 1910, 1920, and 1930 census, last name appears to > have been misspelled, Buttorff or Battorff on some of them. > > Maybe, maybe appears as John M Buttorff in the 1880 census (being born in > 1871), with parents George and Sallie. > > (However Sallie shows later up with daughter Margaret (or Nettie in 1900 > and 1910 census as a widow as Sarah Buttorff. Margaret, as Margaret > Buttorff living with sister known then as Amanda E Norman in 1920 census. > Margaret is in the Madison State Hospital institution as Bottorff in the > 1930 census...therefore clouding what name John Martin was born under > originally, if this is the same John Martin). > > John married Rebecca Fredona Clark, Feb 28, 1891 (named Rebcoa Fredona and > Fredona R and Rebecca in 1900 - 1930 censuses). No able to locate her any > earlier in the census, but family legend states she was Cherokee Indiana > adopted into the Clark family. However all census records list her as > white. > > John and Rebecca had the following children: > > Harry Oscar (23 Mar 1892 - 16 Sep 1903) > Otis William (18 Dec 1896 - 1964), married Flora B about 1917 > Ethel M (Oct 1899 - 20 Apr 1988), married and divorced a Mr. Lee between > the 1920 and 1930 census, had children Mary Maxin Lee (b 1923) and Barbara > Lee (b 1925) > Cecil K (9 Jun 1902 - 13 Feb 1977) married Flossie Lee (1905-1990) and had > at least two children, Robert E (1922-2004) and Mary Lou (1933-2004). Mary > used to be active in genealogical circles up to her death and had contact > with my brother who started this research in the 1990s. > Opal V (about 1907 - ?) > and my grandfather: > Walter Edgar (19 Dec 1912 - 2 Dec 1949) married Inez Edith Luukkonen and > fathered > Clark Richard (1941 - ), Rodney Ralph (1942 - ), Ray Sheldon (my dad, > 1945 - ), Arlen Otto (1946 - ), and Martin Lamont (1949 - ) > > I am hoping some has a link to John Martin in their own trees, maybe some > of those who are distant cousins have better historical contact with John > Martin and know more of his past. My grandfather dying so young cut my > family off from that side of the family tree and therefore its history, > except what my grandmother could remember. > > So if anyone has any info, please reply! > > Thanks! > my best > Ray Bottorff Jr > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message