____________________________________ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 1/23/2009 1:49:26 A.M. Eastern Standard Time Subj: Re: 2T's - 1F Flemington is in Clinton Co., Pa. Not knowing John's date of birth, or date of death, or even his middle name, or his wife's name makes finding information a bit difficult. My grandmother would talk about her childhood, but not much was ever said about my grandfather's. I think my sister has my grandmother's bible which may have some info, in it. We will be out of town for a few days but when we return I'll try to come up with a group sheet, but now the only dates that I can be sure of are my parents birth, marriage and death dates. I received an e-mail from Zelpha Pottorff Ray from Arkansas who says sthat she has researched the family name and has 5 pages of info. she would send me. I think that she has the right branch of the tree since she knows my full name and date of birth. I'll contact her and see where this leads. Once again, Thank you for your help. Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 8:16 PM Subject: Re: 2T's - 1F A group sheet has the husband, birth date, birthplace, death date, death place, His fathers name, mothers name Then same for wife Then each kid and their birthdate/place.spouse and marriage date. What county is Flemington in? Do you have some appoximate dates. If you know whoever is alive in 1930 you can start with the census records. I use "Ancestry.com" to do much of my research. Give me some more details and I'll try to help you get started. Cindy . ____________________________________ Inauguration '09: Get _complete coverage_ (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration?ncid=emlcntusnews00000003) from the nation's capital. **************Know Your Numbers: Get tips and tools to help you improve your credit score. (http://www.walletpop.com/credit/credit-reports?ncid=emlcntuswall00000002)

Thanks Stephanie!!! In a message dated 1/23/2009 7:53:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Ok, I'm pretty sure I found the family in the 1900 Census... White Township, Cambria Co, PA John F Burtuff (one of the more unusual spellings I've seen) born Jan 1857, age 43, married 3 years (19 crossed out, maybe length of 1st marriage? or total years married???), he and parents born PA, saw mill laborer Maim, wife, born Sept 1872, age 27, married 3 years, gave birth to 1 child 1 child living, she and parents born PA Harry, b 1884, age 16, he and parents born PA, laborer Stella, b Dec 1885, age 14 Forest, b July 1888, age 11, at school Milfred, b Fed 1893, age 7 Robert Keaster (?), boarder, b Sept 1895, age 4 Maybe Robert is Maim's (Mame's) son? The 1890 Census could have told us the children's mother's name. John is such a common name and I did not find an obvious choice for this John in the 1880 Census. The varieties of spellings were not all showing up in my searches. Using the name "Forest" and a basic combination of facts, leaving out the surname, helped me find them in 1900. That's all that I have for now. Stephanie In a message dated 1/22/2009 7:41:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Not being an expert in geneology and not knowing what a group sheet is, I'll send what I know. Who knows, my little twig of the family tree may be useful to someone. The earliest relative that I know of would be John Bottorf of Flemington, Pa.. My great-grandfather. I know from hearing from my grandmother that his first wife died when the children were young, They had 3 boys - Harry, Milfred and Forrest, and 1 sister named Stella. After his wife died he had a housekeeper named Mame who was abusive to the children, and they left home as soon as they were able. It is not known if he ever married Mame. Milfred stayed in the Lock Haven area Forrest moved to the mid-west (maybe Indiana), and Harry (my grandfather) moved to Williamsport, Pa. and then to Hagerstown, Md. (my home-town) .. I did find this article (attached hopefully) from the Lock Haven newspaper. Central Pa. was lumber country after the Civil War. I'm sure that this would be the same John Bottorf because my father said that his grandfather was from Flemmington and worked in the saw-mill and had a "drooping eye". I did find 1 photo of him in my grandmother's photo album, taken later in his life. My grandparents never wanted to talk about my grandfather's childhood, so I'm sure that it wasn't pleasant. My dad at one time started some family research, but he always said that the records were destroyed in a fire at the Court House Now that my parents are gone and I'm retired, I think of all of the questions that I should have asked. Thank you for replying Harry F. Bottorf III **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital. (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration?ncid=emlcntusnews00000003) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http: //www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Know Your Numbers: Get tips and tools to help you improve your credit score. (http://www.walletpop.com/credit/credit-reports?ncid=emlcntuswall00000002)

Ok, I'm pretty sure I found the family in the 1900 Census... White Township, Cambria Co, PA John F Burtuff (one of the more unusual spellings I've seen) born Jan 1857, age 43, married 3 years (19 crossed out, maybe length of 1st marriage? or total years married???), he and parents born PA, saw mill laborer Maim, wife, born Sept 1872, age 27, married 3 years, gave birth to 1 child 1 child living, she and parents born PA Harry, b 1884, age 16, he and parents born PA, laborer Stella, b Dec 1885, age 14 Forest, b July 1888, age 11, at school Milfred, b Fed 1893, age 7 Robert Keaster (?), boarder, b Sept 1895, age 4 Maybe Robert is Maim's (Mame's) son? The 1890 Census could have told us the children's mother's name. John is such a common name and I did not find an obvious choice for this John in the 1880 Census. The varieties of spellings were not all showing up in my searches. Using the name "Forest" and a basic combination of facts, leaving out the surname, helped me find them in 1900. That's all that I have for now. Stephanie In a message dated 1/22/2009 7:41:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Not being an expert in geneology and not knowing what a group sheet is, I'll send what I know. Who knows, my little twig of the family tree may be useful to someone. The earliest relative that I know of would be John Bottorf of Flemington, Pa.. My great-grandfather. I know from hearing from my grandmother that his first wife died when the children were young, They had 3 boys - Harry, Milfred and Forrest, and 1 sister named Stella. After his wife died he had a housekeeper named Mame who was abusive to the children, and they left home as soon as they were able. It is not known if he ever married Mame. Milfred stayed in the Lock Haven area Forrest moved to the mid-west (maybe Indiana), and Harry (my grandfather) moved to Williamsport, Pa. and then to Hagerstown, Md. (my home-town) .. I did find this article (attached hopefully) from the Lock Haven newspaper. Central Pa. was lumber country after the Civil War. I'm sure that this would be the same John Bottorf because my father said that his grandfather was from Flemmington and worked in the saw-mill and had a "drooping eye". I did find 1 photo of him in my grandmother's photo album, taken later in his life. My grandparents never wanted to talk about my grandfather's childhood, so I'm sure that it wasn't pleasant. My dad at one time started some family research, but he always said that the records were destroyed in a fire at the Court House Now that my parents are gone and I'm retired, I think of all of the questions that I should have asked. Thank you for replying Harry F. Bottorf III **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital. (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration?ncid=emlcntusnews00000003) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1215855013x1201028747/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=De cemailfooterNO62)

Not being an expert in geneology and not knowing what a group sheet is, I'll send what I know. Who knows, my little twig of the family tree may be useful to someone. The earliest relative that I know of would be John Bottorf of Flemington, Pa.. My great-grandfather. I know from hearing from my grandmother that his first wife died when the children were young, They had 3 boys - Harry, Milfred and Forrest, and 1 sister named Stella. After his wife died he had a housekeeper named Mame who was abusive to the children, and they left home as soon as they were able. It is not known if he ever married Mame. Milfred stayed in the Lock Haven area Forrest moved to the mid-west (maybe Indiana), and Harry (my grandfather) moved to Williamsport, Pa. and then to Hagerstown, Md. (my home-town) .. I did find this article (attached hopefully) from the Lock Haven newspaper. Central Pa. was lumber country after the Civil War. I'm sure that this would be the same John Bottorf because my father said that his grandfather was from Flemmington and worked in the saw-mill and had a "drooping eye". I did find 1 photo of him in my grandmother's photo album, taken later in his life. My grandparents never wanted to talk about my grandfather's childhood, so I'm sure that it wasn't pleasant. My dad at one time started some family research, but he always said that the records were destroyed in a fire at the Court House Now that my parents are gone and I'm retired, I think of all of the questions that I should have asked. Thank you for replying Harry F. Bottorf III **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital. (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration?ncid=emlcntusnews00000003)

I've seen a doz diff spelling starting with b's or P's. They all came from PA...Berks originally. Mine went to Wash co IN Send me a group sheet on your earliest Bottorff ancestor. Cindy Holsapple-Boone Davidsonville MD In a message dated 1/20/2009 3:04:52 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: I was doing a little late night web searching and typed Bottorf into google and found your site. I'm from the Clinton Co., Pa Bottorf's, now living in So. MD., and was just wondering if someone way back when added an extra F or droped the Extra F. Have you found any information from the central Pa. area. I keep telling myself that one of these days I'm going to try to track the family history past my great-grandfather. Did you know that the mother of our former governor is a Bottorf. 1 F I believe. Nancy Bottorf. No relation to me., but curious. I had no idea of the number of derivatives of the name. Harry Bottorf LaPlata, MD. **************Inauguration '09: Get complete coverage from the nation's capital. (http://news.aol.com/main/politics/inauguration?ncid=emlcntusnews00000003)

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____________________________________ Cindy Holsapple-Boone, Davidsonville MD [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) moderates the Bottorff site at Rootsweb.com _http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames/b/o/BOTTORFF/_ (http://resources.rootsweb.com/~clusters/surnames/b/o/BOTTORFF/) I believe she has a family tree posted. [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) wrote: Is there an official Batdorf Family Tree posted on the Internet? The Virginia Batdorf book ends with my father's generation and I'd like to add to it, if it hasn't been done already. William F. Batdorf Arlington, VA Son of Russell Grandson of Frederick Fillmore Batdorf (No. 325 in the Virginia Batdorf book) ____________________________________ One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new _AOL.com_ (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40va nity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001) today! **************One site has it all. Your email accounts, your social networks, and the things you love. Try the new AOL.com today!(http://pr.a twola.com/promoclk/100000075x1212962939x1200825291/aol?redir=http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp %26icid=aolcom40vanity%26ncid=emlcntaolcom00000001)

____________________________________ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 10/17/2008 11:57:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Bottorff-Worrall in Clark Co., Indiana Dear Cindy, I am a descendant of the Worralls from Clark County, Indiana. One of my great grandmothers married a John Bottorff in August of 1854 and I think the information you posted on Rootsweb may be the John Bottorff who married my Elizabeth Worrall. Do you know if they had any children or how John ended up in Michigan? Perhaps he married again after Elizabeth's death? Any information you could share would be much appreciated. Thank you. Elon Worrall Jensen [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)

____________________________________ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] CC: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected] Sent: 9/12/2008 12:30:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Bottorff Hi Sandy, As you know I have been searching for Mary Turner, Helen Bottorff Roop’s daughter who was the informant on Helen’s death certificate. Sometimes I assume too much. I assumed Mary probably lived in Portland. I went to the white pages and then called every Mary Turner I saw listed in Portland. Of course, I was disappointed when I did not find her. I decided I would contact the Portland library. I find when I just ask for a “look-up” I usually get a note saying nothing was found. I sent an email and told them I would make a donation to the library if they could furnish me with a copy of Helen’s obit. Well, I got it today. Here is what it says: Helen Thompson A memorial service will be at 4 p.m. on Monday, October 10, 1994, at Bible Temple Chapel. Mrs. Thompson died October 6 at age 76. She was born March 27, 1918, in Hedrick, Iowa, and moved to Portland in 1930. (I do not believe this is accurate. I believe she was born in 1920 in Minnesota. In the 1930 Keokuk County, Iowa census Helen is listed as a 10-year-old girl in the John A. Roop household. According to a letter written by Flossie Rees, Helen married Oscar Chiarini on July 22, 1939. I suspect it was more like 1940 when they moved to Portland.) Disposition by cremation. Surviving are her sons, Danny Thompson and Terry Lee Hobbs of Portland; daughter, Mary Kaye Turner of Sacramento, California; five grandchildren and five great-grandchildren. I just got home from a bridge game so it is too late tonight, but early tomorrow I will begin a search for her sons in Portland and her daughter in California. Helen died on October 6, and her service was not until October 10. I suspect time had to be allowed for Mary to get there from California. BUT, why would the boys wait for Mary to get there to furnish information for the death certificate??? I suspect her children know very little about her past. Had Helen talked to them about her past, I suspect they would have known her correct birthday and place of birth. Plus, Mary listed Helen’s father as ______Roop and nothing under the mother’s name. I would think even if Helen did not tell her children about the family tragedy, surely she would have talked about the Roop family enough for Mary to have known the name of the lady who was the adoptive mother. Helen was only 5 when her parents died. Note to Jim: Miles Bacon sent me some family information that includes the obit for Mary, your father’s first wife, and the obit for your mother. If you do not already have these, I will be glad to copy them and send them along. Now I can get to bed. I could not wait until tomorrow to share this good news. Patsy **************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com. (http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)

Hi Rooters, Today I received a copy of the death certificate for Helen Irene Thompson. Helen was one of the six Bottorff children left an orphan when her parents died on January 20, 1925, in Jackson, Michigan. Helen and her siblings were taken to Hedrick, Iowa to be cared for by relatives until they were adopted by various families in the community. Helen was adopted by the John Roop family. Helen married Oscar Chiarini, and they moved to Portland, Oregon. They divorced some years later, and according to family notes they may have had four children. I have no information on the children. Helen later married a man by the name of Thompson, but when she died in 1994 she was divorced. The informant on her death certificate was Mary Turner, a daughter. Is there anyone out there who might know Mary Turner and how I might make contact with Mary? Many thanks for any information you may have. Patsy Williams from Texas

Thanks to all who offered comments regarding the correct lineage of Andrew J. & Elizabeth Ann (Mills) Bottorff. Yes, those names were apparently taken from that 1850 Scott Co IN census. The 1860 Tipton Co IN census lists them correctly as do the later censuses of the Nebraska counties where they settled in 1865. A copy of a page from their family bible, in my possession, confirms this. I just wanted to clarify the names of their children since they were published incorrectly in The Batdorf Family History. A reader might not otherwise not know that the birthdates in 1850 are consistent for “Isabell” to be Armilda Ellen; for “William M” to be Milburn Marion; for “Daniel H” to be David Monroe. Merri On Sep 4, 2008, at 8:13 AM, [email protected] wrote: > If you analyse these names, Armilda was probably called Isabell, > Milburn Marion was probably William M. and David was probably > called Daniel. They are all of the ages the others were. I have > several families where different names were used in various > census'. There are no Scott Co. marriages online, but I would > suggest you contact Susan at [email protected] She has offered > lookups for Scott Co. marriages. You might find the children > married under the names of that 1850 census. > > Pat > > > > -------------- Original message from Zelpha Ray > <[email protected]>: -------------- >> 1850 United States Federal Census >> about Andrew Batdorff >> >> Name: >> Andrew Batdorff >> [Andrew Bottorff] >> >> Age: >> 36 >> >> Estimated Birth Year: >> abt 1814 >> >> Birth Place: >> Indiana >> >> Gender: >> Male >> >> Home in 1850(City,County,State): >> Vienna, Scott, Indiana >> >> Household Members: >> >> Name >> Age >> >> Andrew Batdorff >> 36 >> >> Andrew J Batdorff >> 10 >> >> Daniel H Batdorff >> 1 >> >> Elizabeth Ann Batdorff >> 34 >> >> Isabell Batdorff >> 12 >> >> Ruth E Batdorff >> 6 >> >> Thomas W Batdorff >> 4 >> >> William M Batdorff >> 8 >> >> Louisa Hall >> 4 >> >> Abigail Mills >> 65 >> Merri, I would imagine the info came from this 1850 census. Thanks >> for the corrections.So did the census taker make mistakes on names >> or are >> these someone elses children living in this home? >> Zelpha >> >> Rejoice and Be Glad for this is the day the Lord hath made. >> >> --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Merri Vinton wrote: >> >> From: Merri Vinton >> Subject: [BOTTORFF] Batdorf book correction! >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:58 AM >> >> I have just gotten a glimpse of "The Batdorf Family History by >> Virginia Batdorf" and wish to make the following corrections (and >> additions) regarding my ancestor". >> >> Once something gets into print or is posted incorrectly it's pretty >> hard to get the ball stopped. If any anyone is interested in more >> information regarding this son of John Henry Bottorff & Elizabeth >> Hoke, please contact me. In the meantime, if you own this book, >> please make the following corrections. Thanks. >> >> Regards, >> Merri Allen Vinton >> >> >> pg 130 >> #843 Andrew Jackson Bottorff >> b. 15 Sept 1812 or 1813....Family bible says 1812 whereas tombstone >> says 1813, in Clark Co, IN; >> m. 16 May 1837 in Clark Co, IN, to Elizabeth Ann Mills b.1815, >> daughter of Abigail Mills. Elizabeth died 6 Mar 1900 and is buried in >> the Allen Cemetery, Ft. Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE >> d. 4 Jan 1884 in Washington Co, NE; buried in the Allen Cemetery, Ft. >> Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE >> >> Andrew was never married a second time, nor is the name "Melle/Nelle >> Line" anywhere in my family records. >> >> Children: >> Armilda Ellen b.1838 >> Andrew Jackson, Jr. b. 1840 >> Milburn Marion b. 1842 >> Ruth Emily b. 1844 (my g.grandmother) >> Thomas Walter b. 1846 >> David Monroe b. 1849 >> Erastus Barton b. 1851 >> >> The other children listed in the book, Isabel, William M., & Daniel >> H., are not members of this family >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in >> the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOTTORFF- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

On Behalf Of Patsy Williams Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOTTORFF] Batdorf book correction! Good Morning Merri, I am also interested in information concerning the Bottorff families. My primary interest lies with John W. Bottorff who married Elizabeth Graves on March 29, 1837 in Clark County, Indiana. John and Elizabeth had one son, John Wesley Bottorff, before they divorced, or he died, or ???? On May 11, 1845 Elizabeth Bottorff married Jacob Deuser. In the 1850 Clark County census they are listed as family #846 with the Deuser name spelled Duser. Young John is in the household as a 13-yr-old, and there are 2 younger children, Mary and David M. I need to know if the older John died leaving Elizabeth a widow before she married Jacob Deuser. I also need documentation on John Bottorff's parents. Other researchers think the older John was the son of Martin Bottorff, but I am looking for proof. A family chart available from LDS gives this information, but, of course, that may be an error. If you have any information concerning this family, I will greatly appreciate hearing from you. Family sickness prevents me from researching as much as I would like to, but I do try to read most of the emails on this list. Everyone is very helpful. Patsy from Texas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Merri Vinton Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 11:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOTTORFF] Batdorf book correction! I have just gotten a glimpse of "The Batdorf Family History by Virginia Batdorf" and wish to make the following corrections (and additions) regarding my ancestor". Once something gets into print or is posted incorrectly it's pretty hard to get the ball stopped. If any anyone is interested in more information regarding this son of John Henry Bottorff & Elizabeth Hoke, please contact me. In the meantime, if you own this book, please make the following corrections. Thanks. Regards, Merri Allen Vinton pg 130 #843 Andrew Jackson Bottorff b. 15 Sept 1812 or 1813....Family bible says 1812 whereas tombstone says 1813, in Clark Co, IN; m. 16 May 1837 in Clark Co, IN, to Elizabeth Ann Mills b.1815, daughter of Abigail Mills. Elizabeth died 6 Mar 1900 and is buried in the Allen Cemetery, Ft. Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE d. 4 Jan 1884 in Washington Co, NE; buried in the Allen Cemetery, Ft. Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE Andrew was never married a second time, nor is the name "Melle/Nelle Line" anywhere in my family records. Children: Armilda Ellen b.1838 Andrew Jackson, Jr. b. 1840 Milburn Marion b. 1842 Ruth Emily b. 1844 (my g.grandmother) Thomas Walter b. 1846 David Monroe b. 1849 Erastus Barton b. 1851 The other children listed in the book, Isabel, William M., & Daniel H., are not members of this family ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

If you analyse these names, Armilda was probably called Isabell, Milburn Marion was probably William M. and David was probably called Daniel. They are all of the ages the others were. I have several families where different names were used in various census'. There are no Scott Co. marriages online, but I would suggest you contact Susan at [email protected] She has offered lookups for Scott Co. marriages. You might find the children married under the names of that 1850 census. Pat -------------- Original message from Zelpha Ray <[email protected]>: -------------- > 1850 United States Federal Census > about Andrew Batdorff > > Name: > Andrew Batdorff > [Andrew Bottorff] > > Age: > 36 > > Estimated Birth Year: > abt 1814 > > Birth Place: > Indiana > > Gender: > Male > > Home in 1850(City,County,State): > Vienna, Scott, Indiana > > Household Members: > > Name > Age > > Andrew Batdorff > 36 > > Andrew J Batdorff > 10 > > Daniel H Batdorff > 1 > > Elizabeth Ann Batdorff > 34 > > Isabell Batdorff > 12 > > Ruth E Batdorff > 6 > > Thomas W Batdorff > 4 > > William M Batdorff > 8 > > Louisa Hall > 4 > > Abigail Mills > 65 > Merri, I would imagine the info came from this 1850 census. Thanks for the corrections.So did the census taker make mistakes on names or are > these someone elses children living in this home? > Zelpha > > Rejoice and Be Glad for this is the day the Lord hath made. > > --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Merri Vinton wrote: > > From: Merri Vinton > Subject: [BOTTORFF] Batdorf book correction! > To: [email protected] > Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:58 AM > > I have just gotten a glimpse of "The Batdorf Family History by > Virginia Batdorf" and wish to make the following corrections (and > additions) regarding my ancestor". > > Once something gets into print or is posted incorrectly it's pretty > hard to get the ball stopped. If any anyone is interested in more > information regarding this son of John Henry Bottorff & Elizabeth > Hoke, please contact me. In the meantime, if you own this book, > please make the following corrections. Thanks. > > Regards, > Merri Allen Vinton > > > pg 130 > #843 Andrew Jackson Bottorff > b. 15 Sept 1812 or 1813....Family bible says 1812 whereas tombstone > says 1813, in Clark Co, IN; > m. 16 May 1837 in Clark Co, IN, to Elizabeth Ann Mills b.1815, > daughter of Abigail Mills. Elizabeth died 6 Mar 1900 and is buried in > the Allen Cemetery, Ft. Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE > d. 4 Jan 1884 in Washington Co, NE; buried in the Allen Cemetery, Ft. > Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE > > Andrew was never married a second time, nor is the name "Melle/Nelle > Line" anywhere in my family records. > > Children: > Armilda Ellen b.1838 > Andrew Jackson, Jr. b. 1840 > Milburn Marion b. 1842 > Ruth Emily b. 1844 (my g.grandmother) > Thomas Walter b. 1846 > David Monroe b. 1849 > Erastus Barton b. 1851 > > The other children listed in the book, Isabel, William M., & Daniel > H., are not members of this family > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message

1850 United States Federal Census about Andrew Batdorff Name: Andrew Batdorff [Andrew Bottorff]  Age: 36 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1814 Birth Place: Indiana Gender: Male Home in 1850(City,County,State): Vienna, Scott, Indiana Household Members: Name Age Andrew Batdorff 36 Andrew J Batdorff 10 Daniel H Batdorff 1 Elizabeth Ann Batdorff 34 Isabell Batdorff 12 Ruth E Batdorff 6 Thomas W Batdorff 4 William M Batdorff 8 Louisa Hall 4 Abigail Mills 65 Merri, I would imagine the info came from this 1850 census. Thanks for the corrections.So did the census taker make mistakes on names or are these someone elses children living in this home? Zelpha Rejoice and Be Glad for this is the day the Lord hath made. --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Merri Vinton <[email protected]> wrote: From: Merri Vinton <[email protected]> Subject: [BOTTORFF] Batdorf book correction! To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:58 AM I have just gotten a glimpse of "The Batdorf Family History by Virginia Batdorf" and wish to make the following corrections (and additions) regarding my ancestor". Once something gets into print or is posted incorrectly it's pretty hard to get the ball stopped. If any anyone is interested in more information regarding this son of John Henry Bottorff & Elizabeth Hoke, please contact me. In the meantime, if you own this book, please make the following corrections. Thanks. Regards, Merri Allen Vinton pg 130 #843 Andrew Jackson Bottorff b. 15 Sept 1812 or 1813....Family bible says 1812 whereas tombstone says 1813, in Clark Co, IN; m. 16 May 1837 in Clark Co, IN, to Elizabeth Ann Mills b.1815, daughter of Abigail Mills. Elizabeth died 6 Mar 1900 and is buried in the Allen Cemetery, Ft. Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE d. 4 Jan 1884 in Washington Co, NE; buried in the Allen Cemetery, Ft. Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE Andrew was never married a second time, nor is the name "Melle/Nelle Line" anywhere in my family records. Children: Armilda Ellen b.1838 Andrew Jackson, Jr. b. 1840 Milburn Marion b. 1842 Ruth Emily b. 1844 (my g.grandmother) Thomas Walter b. 1846 David Monroe b. 1849 Erastus Barton b. 1851 The other children listed in the book, Isabel, William M., & Daniel H., are not members of this family ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning Merri, I am also interested in information concerning the Bottorff families. My primary interest lies with John W. Bottorff who married Elizabeth Graves on March 29, 1837 in Clark County, Indiana. John and Elizabeth had one son, John Wesley Bottorff, before they divorced, or he died, or ???? On May 11, 1845 Elizabeth Bottorff married Jacob Deuser. In the 1850 Clark County census they are listed as family #846 with the Deuser name spelled Duser. Young John is in the household as a 13-yr-old, and there are 2 younger children, Mary and David M. I need to know if the older John died leaving Elizabeth a widow before she married Jacob Deuser. I also need documentation on John Bottorff's parents. Other researchers think the older John was the son of Martin Bottorff, but I am looking for proof. A family chart available from LDS gives this information, but, of course, that may be an error. If you have any information concerning this family, I will greatly appreciate hearing from you. Family sickness prevents me from researching as much as I would like to, but I do try to read most of the emails on this list. Everyone is very helpful. Patsy from Texas -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Merri Vinton Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 11:59 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [BOTTORFF] Batdorf book correction! I have just gotten a glimpse of "The Batdorf Family History by Virginia Batdorf" and wish to make the following corrections (and additions) regarding my ancestor". Once something gets into print or is posted incorrectly it's pretty hard to get the ball stopped. If any anyone is interested in more information regarding this son of John Henry Bottorff & Elizabeth Hoke, please contact me. In the meantime, if you own this book, please make the following corrections. Thanks. Regards, Merri Allen Vinton pg 130 #843 Andrew Jackson Bottorff b. 15 Sept 1812 or 1813....Family bible says 1812 whereas tombstone says 1813, in Clark Co, IN; m. 16 May 1837 in Clark Co, IN, to Elizabeth Ann Mills b.1815, daughter of Abigail Mills. Elizabeth died 6 Mar 1900 and is buried in the Allen Cemetery, Ft. Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE d. 4 Jan 1884 in Washington Co, NE; buried in the Allen Cemetery, Ft. Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE Andrew was never married a second time, nor is the name "Melle/Nelle Line" anywhere in my family records. Children: Armilda Ellen b.1838 Andrew Jackson, Jr. b. 1840 Milburn Marion b. 1842 Ruth Emily b. 1844 (my g.grandmother) Thomas Walter b. 1846 David Monroe b. 1849 Erastus Barton b. 1851 The other children listed in the book, Isabel, William M., & Daniel H., are not members of this family ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have just gotten a glimpse of "The Batdorf Family History by Virginia Batdorf" and wish to make the following corrections (and additions) regarding my ancestor". Once something gets into print or is posted incorrectly it's pretty hard to get the ball stopped. If any anyone is interested in more information regarding this son of John Henry Bottorff & Elizabeth Hoke, please contact me. In the meantime, if you own this book, please make the following corrections. Thanks. Regards, Merri Allen Vinton pg 130 #843 Andrew Jackson Bottorff b. 15 Sept 1812 or 1813....Family bible says 1812 whereas tombstone says 1813, in Clark Co, IN; m. 16 May 1837 in Clark Co, IN, to Elizabeth Ann Mills b.1815, daughter of Abigail Mills. Elizabeth died 6 Mar 1900 and is buried in the Allen Cemetery, Ft. Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE d. 4 Jan 1884 in Washington Co, NE; buried in the Allen Cemetery, Ft. Calhoun Twp, Washington Co. NE Andrew was never married a second time, nor is the name "Melle/Nelle Line" anywhere in my family records. Children: Armilda Ellen b.1838 Andrew Jackson, Jr. b. 1840 Milburn Marion b. 1842 Ruth Emily b. 1844 (my g.grandmother) Thomas Walter b. 1846 David Monroe b. 1849 Erastus Barton b. 1851 The other children listed in the book, Isabel, William M., & Daniel H., are not members of this family

I have a photograph marked "Old Bottorff Place, Clark County, IN". I would like assistance in identifying the structure more specifically. The style makes me think it may have been built in the first part of the 19th century. It is a simple two-story ?stucco structure, with what I would call a "lean-to(s)" which flanks each side of the main house. There are two windows on the second floor only, and a portico covering the door on the 1st floor. Each of the lean-tos have openings which don't appear to be windows. The ground level portion of these lean-tos are "open-air"--similar to porches. There is a symbol above the door. It isn't a traditional Pennsylvania German hex sign in a circular or hexagonal shape of which I am familiar, but rather a simple horse or maybe a bird...It looks a bit like a weather- vane, but it appears to be etched in the surface of the house itself. Additionally, it appears there may be a portion of a low stone wall just off one corner of the house. If anyone would be interested in helping me identify this old homestead, please email me privately and I will send you a jpeg. Any clues appreciated. Thanks. Merri [email protected]

I have no idea but of course i'll try. John Davis in MO would be a great resource Cindy In a message dated 8/31/2008 11:35:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Cindy I've been snooping through my files and I have an old picture of a house that is marked "Bottorff Place, Clark Co, IN". It was apparently taken about the time the family reunion was organized as my great aunt always traveled from Nebraska to the original ones....the picture made its way to my hands. I'm hoping to identify it more specifically. Do you think you would be able to help me if you saw it? Thanks. Merri Vinton **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047)

If you do find this information, please post which Bottorffs lived there and when Thank you Michael Pottorff -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2008 3:38 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [BOTTORFF] Old Bottorff House: Clark Co IN I have no idea but of course i'll try. John Davis in MO would be a great resource Cindy In a message dated 8/31/2008 11:35:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Hi Cindy I've been snooping through my files and I have an old picture of a house that is marked "Bottorff Place, Clark Co, IN". It was apparently taken about the time the family reunion was organized as my great aunt always traveled from Nebraska to the original ones....the picture made its way to my hands. I'm hoping to identify it more specifically. Do you think you would be able to help me if you saw it? Thanks. Merri Vinton **************It's only a deal if it's where you want to go. Find your travel deal here. (http://information.travel.aol.com/deals?ncid=aoltrv00050000000047) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

____________________________________ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 7/14/2008 12:08:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: Pottorff/Chambers Cindy: Reference note of July 27--------I apologize for being so late in returning to you. I do not have any written proof that Jacob was son of Martin. Other than word from my uncle William, s/o of Benjamin, s/o of Jacob. You stated that John Chambers was son of Nat and Mary. I haven't found any info on John being Nathaniels son. Although a John Chambers was listed as being the administrator of Nataniels estate. Nor have I yet found the name of Nathaniels wife. How did you come up with this???? According to Probate record, his children, grandchildren and son in laws were listed as William, James, Catherine m John(Colvin),Celia m Robert (Frakes), Nancy m ( ??? Mize), Nathaniel Mize,Ann m Jacob(Bottorff), Mary m (???)(Harrison), Joseph Mize m. (???), Mary m (Reuben Mize), grandchildren Jeremiah Winkler and James McBride. There were also two Smiths but could not decipher maiden names. Still hunting................... Ben Landreth 140 No. Center St. Winder, GA. 30680-2515 678-425-0738 **************Get the scoop on last night's hottest shows and the live music scene in your area - Check out TourTracker.com! (http://www.tourtracker.com?NCID=aolmus00050000000112)