This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: guyboocock Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bottomley/225.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Oh right. Hello cousin! Yes, Maria Gascoigne was their mother and her parents married at Harewood, but what's the connection with the Hall? I noticed that no one above commented on the fact Joe was having an affair with Jane DePledge whilst still married to Eve Smith. The censuses clearly show that he is and also having children with her until Eve died. I really only have solid info on Pliny's line, and a photo of him. To get any further back than John and Anne would probably mean having to go to Yorkshire because I've found it quite difficult to find John's parents (though I suspect John and Grace Spencer) on familysearch. Such sad circumstances for Amelia and her children. Do you have a photo of Amelia? I can send one over of Pliny. He moved to Morecambe and married a local woman and had 4 3 daughters, 1 died, and 1 son. Lucky otherwise I wouldn't hold the name! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.