This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: paloz7 Surnames: Ancestry.com Blog | Ancestry.com DNA GUSCIOLI/RASPONI/MCNEIL/MAIZE/DARNLETUESDAY, MARCH 23, 2010 @06:00AM, PST. Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bottomley/31.49.50.51.57.58.59.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ancestry.com Blog | Ancestry.com DNA GUSCIOLI/RASPONI/MCNEIL/MAIZE/DARNLETUESDAY, MARCH 23, 2010 @06:00AM, PST. Classification: Query Surnames: GUSCIOLI/RASPONI/MCNEIL/MAIZE/WIEDMAN/HESS/BOTTOMLEY/PALOZZI/MALDONADO/AMBROSSI hi. i am new at this geneology stuff. i am hoping to meet people that can help me find the truth. My father; JAMES HARVEY BOTTOMLEY, 1929-2009, UTICA ILLINOIS and CALIFORNIA. his father; HARVEY IRWIN BOTTOMLEY died, LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA 1974. MY FATHER HAD COUSIN JOHN BOTTOMLEY HE HAD SON JOHN BOTTOMLEY. WE ARE RELATED TO JAMES BOTTOMLEY aka; SUNNY JIM BOTTOMLEY BASEBALL HALL OF FAME FOR MOST RBI in one game, 1920's?, ST. LOUIS CARDINALS. Y/SIROCKI/PALOZZI/BOTTOMLEY/HESS/WEIDMAN/MALDONADO/AMBROSSI HAVE SOME INFORMATION OF THE BOTTOMLEY-HESS LINKAGE, but nothing past my grampa HARVEY IRWIN BOTTOMLEY. grampa had two brothers in utica, illinois WILLIAM and "STOKES". this family has strong links to MASONIC/satanic/KKK/other ritualistic cult-like activity, including DOUBLE-DECENDENTS, and often used patterns in the first and middle names. sometimes one of the babies born on the farm would die and another born shortly after WITH SAME NAME. FREAKY. how can i trace my BOTTOMLEY clan??? so many secrets and lies , hard to do. same with my mothers side too. same small rural area of illinois. funny, when my uncle married his wife, same first name as my mom, THERE WERE TWO MRS. MARIE BOTTOMLEY, of LONG BEACH, CALIFORNIA. her mother, JANE (JANNIE)(JENNIE) MCNEIL, born 1903 married a man ELIA RASPONI, born 1877 or 1879 or 1881, from MODENA, ITALY but not until SIX years after the birth of their third and last child, my mom in 1940. Gramma also had 3 children,allegedly last name SIROCKI,but CENSUS RECORDS show last name RASPONI. grampa elia was also married to another woman in MODENA, ITALY in 1910 and had a son and three daughters,but his COAL MINER papers and immigration papers and other papers ALL HAVE TYPOS. and the wife AND kids ended up in same area. MOST INTERESTING is that there is a JANNIE MCNEIL born 1880 in SAME TOWN, MODENA ITALY. I HAVE A PICTURE OF A WOMAN LOOKS LIKE GRAMMA,she is sitting down between a european looking man and italian/dark looking woman and she is holding A BABY, its christmas card, signed MRS. JANE DARNLEY. THERE IS ALSO A connection to the AMBROSSI-MALDONADO familia en EQUADOR. my recently deceased STEP FATHER. so much strange stuff in this family I often wonder if I am even BLOOD RELATED. Especially since Ive recently learned how they use the PROBATE COURT SYSTEM here in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. my grandmothers death certificate says IRISH but she always said she was from SCOTTLAND. they all believed in reincarnation/spirituality/horoscopes seances, the whole thing, and i have papers provided to me with pedigrees dating back to the 1600's, on both my mothers fathers side (RASPONI alias changed in late 1600's from GUSCIOLI and my fathers mothers side HESS (WEIDMAN-HESS). these families are so strange, even my sisters and cousin used invitro to keep bloodline pure, so now they have children that are biological brothers/sisters/cousins. whew, didnt mean to get that all out here, but now that its out, CAN ANYONE HELP ME DOCUMENT THE TRUTH, for the sake of the others/ future generations who need to know? and yes, the rituals do involve human SACRFICE. and yes, they program the kids young, traumatize them to forget, or use hypnosis, to carry out DEEDS well into the future. thank you for your time. SURVIVOR NOMBRE SIETE OES 1953 OTTAWA/LA SALLE/PERU CHAPTER MKULTRA pilot project Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.