Taken From: Tennessee Tombstone Inscriptions and Manuscripts by, Acklen page 157 Shellsford Graveyard Baptist Church J.A. Bottom, Nov.22, 1830-Aug.6,1893 Miranda Bottom, daughter of Wm. Smith, Feb. 11, 1828-Dec. 12, 1913 Anyone know where in TN., Shellsford Graveyard Baptist Church, is located? Where does J.A. Bottom, and Miranda Bottom fit in? Debbie

Harvey, I can get the book copy from my Library. How many needs or wants copies? I'll need snail mail addresses. Jim, you'll love this, "being that I am a "computer dummy", having a scanner, I still DO NOT know how to scann correctly. Debbie At 12:24 AM 5/27/98 -0500, you wrote: >Am I to conclude that you have a copy of the census? I have been without my >email for a couple of days and I am going through about 300 messages, so I >might have missed something. If it is, I would like a copy. > >Harvey > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Debbie Hill >Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 8:01 PM >To: BOTTOM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BOTTOM-L] 1830 Census - Rutherford/Wilson Counties > >Tom, > >Sorry, but no "Old John" and Jr., and Starling are in seperate households. >they are listed in the same line column. > >I'll be glad to send copies if you need them. > >Debbie > >>Debbie, Harvey and alll, I think this is exciting. If I am reading >>it correctly John R is sharing the same house with "Old John" I >>call him. So is Starling H whom I expect is Sterling on another >>list. That may be Paschal that is still at home with Old John. >>If so Old John is the father of them all. That would be nice. >>I will do some checking of ages and get back to you. There is >>another cousin that might help us with everything. Tom Baird >> >> > > > > >

I don't know about the rest of you, but I really enjoyed the latest discourse that we had. I know that a lot of times, we may not have much to say. But I'm on quest to get us all tied together somehow and someway. Thanks for all your comments and input. Let's talk a little bit more and see if we can get some of these things worked out. Harvey

Am I to conclude that you have a copy of the census? I have been without my email for a couple of days and I am going through about 300 messages, so I might have missed something. If it is, I would like a copy. Harvey -----Original Message----- From: BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Hill Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 8:01 PM To: BOTTOM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOTTOM-L] 1830 Census - Rutherford/Wilson Counties Tom, Sorry, but no "Old John" and Jr., and Starling are in seperate households. they are listed in the same line column. I'll be glad to send copies if you need them. Debbie >Debbie, Harvey and alll, I think this is exciting. If I am reading >it correctly John R is sharing the same house with "Old John" I >call him. So is Starling H whom I expect is Sterling on another >list. That may be Paschal that is still at home with Old John. >If so Old John is the father of them all. That would be nice. >I will do some checking of ages and get back to you. There is >another cousin that might help us with everything. Tom Baird > >

Don't forget ole John M.. He was there too. Does anyone know who Armstead or Armstia (what it looked like) belongs to or Geraldus? Harvey -----Original Message----- From: BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Hill Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 1998 11:28 PM To: BOTTOM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOTTOM-L] 1830 Census - Rutherford/Wilson Counties Tom, "Old Jno.", Jno. R., and Starling are all living right next to each other, according to the census. Thanks for the summary. Debbie >Debbie, Thanks for the heads up to keep me from misreading the >census material. I am used to seeing a house number and a >household number. I assumed these were house numbers. Were these >people living next place to each other? Thanks again. Tom > >

Tom, "Old Jno.", Jno. R., and Starling are all living right next to each other, according to the census. Thanks for the summary. Debbie >Debbie, Thanks for the heads up to keep me from misreading the >census material. I am used to seeing a house number and a >household number. I assumed these were house numbers. Were these >people living next place to each other? Thanks again. Tom > >

Debbie, Harvey and Group In spite of my reading column number for house number the data mostly fits for Sterling H and John R to brothers and probably sons of Old John. In 1830 Sterling H shows to have been born between 1800-1810. The 1850 census indicates 1803. His wife shows the range 1810-1815. The 1850 census, county copy indicates 1812. In 1830 John R shows to have been born between 1800-1810. He was dead before the 1850 census but his wife, Nancy Jordon, shows the range 1810-1815. The 1850 census indicates 1812. Their oldest son John A shows the range 1825-1830. The 1850 census indicates 1829. His birthday was Aug 1829. The only flaw would be Old John. The 1830 census indicates the range 1760-1770. The 1850 census indicates he was born in 1775. Paschal, whom I think is a brother, was born about a year after Sterling. Wilson county is adjacent north to Rutherford county. His children's names indicates same family. One of his sons was Sterling. Another name to throw into the mix is the Pilon family. With John R dead in 1850 and Nancy living with her brother, John A is living with the Pilion family. They were cousins of the Bottoms family and were also from VA. Some of the Pilions were to AR with the Bottoms. John A's sister married a Smith in AR and when she died Mr Smith married one of the Pilion family. Harvey, Paschal will be a mark on someones census in 1830. If he was not the head of household he was only a mark. His oldest child was 38 in 1850 which may indicate a marriage about 1831. My thinking may be all wrong, it has been before, but I think we are getting there. Thanks again Debbie for your work. Tom Baird

Debbie Hill wrote: > > Tom, > > Sorry, but no "Old John" and Jr., and Starling are in seperate households. > they are listed in the same line column. > > I'll be glad to send copies if you need them. > > Debbie > > >Debbie, Harvey and alll, I think this is exciting. If I am reading > >it correctly John R is sharing the same house with "Old John" I > >call him. So is Starling H whom I expect is Sterling on another > >list. That may be Paschal that is still at home with Old John. > >If so Old John is the father of them all. That would be nice. > >I will do some checking of ages and get back to you. There is > >another cousin that might help us with everything. Tom Baird > > > > Debbie, Thanks for the heads up to keep me from misreading the census material. I am used to seeing a house number and a household number. I assumed these were house numbers. Were these people living next place to each other? Thanks again. Tom

Tom, Sorry, but no "Old John" and Jr., and Starling are in seperate households. they are listed in the same line column. I'll be glad to send copies if you need them. Debbie >Debbie, Harvey and alll, I think this is exciting. If I am reading >it correctly John R is sharing the same house with "Old John" I >call him. So is Starling H whom I expect is Sterling on another >list. That may be Paschal that is still at home with Old John. >If so Old John is the father of them all. That would be nice. >I will do some checking of ages and get back to you. There is >another cousin that might help us with everything. Tom Baird > >

Debbie Hill wrote: > > Harvey, > > These were the only Keyes, listed in Rutherford or Wilson Co., TN. > > 1830 Census Rutherford County > > KEA, Martin #361 1001201-1020001 > > KEE, Roswin #269 10001-00001 > > BOTTOM, Jno. #270 00000001-0001001 > > BOTTOM, Jno. R. #270 10001-0001 > > BOTTOM, Starling H. #270 00001-0001 > > Debbie > > At 10:56 PM 5/24/98 -0500, you wrote: > >Debbie, > > > >Thanks, I appreciate it. I don't know when I will be getting back to the > >library and if I can't find Paschal with the Keas, a number of my family's > >theories will be shot to smitharines. After reviewing my data, it could be > >possible that Paschal and Margaret were married in the 1830 census and > >mother Kitty still was keeping household. By 1840 the children were grown > >and Kitty went to live with the children. > > > >Harvey > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com] > >On Behalf Of Debbie Hill > >Sent: Sunday, May 24, 1998 10:23 PM > >To: BOTTOM-L@rootsweb.com > >Subject: Re: [BOTTOM-L] 1830 Census - Rutherford/Wilson Counties > > > >Hi Harvey, > > > >I can do this look up for you, on Tuesday,"the library is closed Monday". > > > >Debbie > > > > > >At 02:20 PM 5/24/98 -0500, Harvey Bottoms wrote: > >>Does anyone know if the 1830 Census index is on the net so I can look up > >>this information? If not, could someone see if they can find a KEAS or > >>variant (KIAS/KEYES). I know that a David KEAS had a family in Rutherford > >>County. He died in abt 1818 and in 1840 census his widow is living with > >>Paschal BOTTOMS who married one of their daughters. People whom I believe > >>to be Paschal's brothers and father were on the 1830 Rutherford County > >>census but no Paschal. I didn't think to look for the KEAS while I was at > >>the library. It dawned upon me that the 1830 census might have him helping > >>the KEAS and being there when the census was taken. I don't think he got > >>married until about 1835 and purchased land in Wilson County. So I am not > >>sure they would be in Wilson or Rutherford. > >> > >>I would appreciate any help someone might give me on this. I am trying to > >>learn as much as possible about this family now so that I can look for > >>specific information when I take my vacation in Tennessee in late June. I > >>am hoping to stop by Rutherford County Courthouse and spend a day at TSLA > >in > >>Nashville. > >> > >>Harvey L. Bottoms > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Debbie, Harvey and alll, I think this is exciting. If I am reading it correctly John R is sharing the same house with "Old John" I call him. So is Starling H whom I expect is Sterling on another list. That may be Paschal that is still at home with Old John. If so Old John is the father of them all. That would be nice. I will do some checking of ages and get back to you. There is another cousin that might help us with everything. Tom Baird

Harvey, These were the only Keyes, listed in Rutherford or Wilson Co., TN. 1830 Census Rutherford County KEA, Martin #361 1001201-1020001 KEE, Roswin #269 10001-00001 BOTTOM, Jno. #270 00000001-0001001 BOTTOM, Jno. R. #270 10001-0001 BOTTOM, Starling H. #270 00001-0001 Debbie At 10:56 PM 5/24/98 -0500, you wrote: >Debbie, > >Thanks, I appreciate it. I don't know when I will be getting back to the >library and if I can't find Paschal with the Keas, a number of my family's >theories will be shot to smitharines. After reviewing my data, it could be >possible that Paschal and Margaret were married in the 1830 census and >mother Kitty still was keeping household. By 1840 the children were grown >and Kitty went to live with the children. > >Harvey > >-----Original Message----- >From: BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com] >On Behalf Of Debbie Hill >Sent: Sunday, May 24, 1998 10:23 PM >To: BOTTOM-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [BOTTOM-L] 1830 Census - Rutherford/Wilson Counties > >Hi Harvey, > >I can do this look up for you, on Tuesday,"the library is closed Monday". > >Debbie > > >At 02:20 PM 5/24/98 -0500, Harvey Bottoms wrote: >>Does anyone know if the 1830 Census index is on the net so I can look up >>this information? If not, could someone see if they can find a KEAS or >>variant (KIAS/KEYES). I know that a David KEAS had a family in Rutherford >>County. He died in abt 1818 and in 1840 census his widow is living with >>Paschal BOTTOMS who married one of their daughters. People whom I believe >>to be Paschal's brothers and father were on the 1830 Rutherford County >>census but no Paschal. I didn't think to look for the KEAS while I was at >>the library. It dawned upon me that the 1830 census might have him helping >>the KEAS and being there when the census was taken. I don't think he got >>married until about 1835 and purchased land in Wilson County. So I am not >>sure they would be in Wilson or Rutherford. >> >>I would appreciate any help someone might give me on this. I am trying to >>learn as much as possible about this family now so that I can look for >>specific information when I take my vacation in Tennessee in late June. I >>am hoping to stop by Rutherford County Courthouse and spend a day at TSLA >in >>Nashville. >> >>Harvey L. Bottoms >> >> >> >> > > > > >

I have created a Download page. at www.wtgsoc.org/bottoms Take a look and if you choose to participate fine. If you do not that is fine to. The main thing is that the data shared here is FREE and should not be sent to profit making or Commercial Companies that ask for your data for free and then charge others to see it or download it or otherwise copy it. I invite comments and etc: This is the only time I hope to see the above URL on the list. But this was the fastest way of letting you know about it. The List is yours so take an interest in what goes on. Ask questions, Make comments, Our goal is the same, to gather complete and accurate information on the Bottom/Bottoms families.

Hi fellow Bottom hunters. Our membership keeps growing daily. So I thought I would give you some information about improvements at Rootsweb. Several new search engines have been developed.and for folks like us. The one I wish to discuss to day is the list search. The URL is http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl You should bookmark this one. Nearly all the mail addressed to this list has been archived. With the above URL you can select the BOTTOM-L list. After that you will be able to search the entire archive and retrieve viewing options. I suggest you try each one to get a feel for what each option contains. Example If you wanted to find all archives about Paschal Bottoms you would enter "Paschal and Bottoms" without the Quotes You would then be presented with all the entries that contain both names. If you want to see all the archives about Bottoms then just enter Bottoms and you will get them all 50 at a time. The above Search URL will work on any List have fun and Enjoy. Jim Lantrip BOTTOM-L list manager.

Debbie, Thanks, I appreciate it. I don't know when I will be getting back to the library and if I can't find Paschal with the Keas, a number of my family's theories will be shot to smitharines. After reviewing my data, it could be possible that Paschal and Margaret were married in the 1830 census and mother Kitty still was keeping household. By 1840 the children were grown and Kitty went to live with the children. Harvey -----Original Message----- From: BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Debbie Hill Sent: Sunday, May 24, 1998 10:23 PM To: BOTTOM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOTTOM-L] 1830 Census - Rutherford/Wilson Counties Hi Harvey, I can do this look up for you, on Tuesday,"the library is closed Monday". Debbie At 02:20 PM 5/24/98 -0500, Harvey Bottoms wrote: >Does anyone know if the 1830 Census index is on the net so I can look up >this information? If not, could someone see if they can find a KEAS or >variant (KIAS/KEYES). I know that a David KEAS had a family in Rutherford >County. He died in abt 1818 and in 1840 census his widow is living with >Paschal BOTTOMS who married one of their daughters. People whom I believe >to be Paschal's brothers and father were on the 1830 Rutherford County >census but no Paschal. I didn't think to look for the KEAS while I was at >the library. It dawned upon me that the 1830 census might have him helping >the KEAS and being there when the census was taken. I don't think he got >married until about 1835 and purchased land in Wilson County. So I am not >sure they would be in Wilson or Rutherford. > >I would appreciate any help someone might give me on this. I am trying to >learn as much as possible about this family now so that I can look for >specific information when I take my vacation in Tennessee in late June. I >am hoping to stop by Rutherford County Courthouse and spend a day at TSLA in >Nashville. > >Harvey L. Bottoms > > > >

Hi Harvey, I can do this look up for you, on Tuesday,"the library is closed Monday". Debbie At 02:20 PM 5/24/98 -0500, Harvey Bottoms wrote: >Does anyone know if the 1830 Census index is on the net so I can look up >this information? If not, could someone see if they can find a KEAS or >variant (KIAS/KEYES). I know that a David KEAS had a family in Rutherford >County. He died in abt 1818 and in 1840 census his widow is living with >Paschal BOTTOMS who married one of their daughters. People whom I believe >to be Paschal's brothers and father were on the 1830 Rutherford County >census but no Paschal. I didn't think to look for the KEAS while I was at >the library. It dawned upon me that the 1830 census might have him helping >the KEAS and being there when the census was taken. I don't think he got >married until about 1835 and purchased land in Wilson County. So I am not >sure they would be in Wilson or Rutherford. > >I would appreciate any help someone might give me on this. I am trying to >learn as much as possible about this family now so that I can look for >specific information when I take my vacation in Tennessee in late June. I >am hoping to stop by Rutherford County Courthouse and spend a day at TSLA in >Nashville. > >Harvey L. Bottoms > > > >

Does anyone know if the 1830 Census index is on the net so I can look up this information? If not, could someone see if they can find a KEAS or variant (KIAS/KEYES). I know that a David KEAS had a family in Rutherford County. He died in abt 1818 and in 1840 census his widow is living with Paschal BOTTOMS who married one of their daughters. People whom I believe to be Paschal's brothers and father were on the 1830 Rutherford County census but no Paschal. I didn't think to look for the KEAS while I was at the library. It dawned upon me that the 1830 census might have him helping the KEAS and being there when the census was taken. I don't think he got married until about 1835 and purchased land in Wilson County. So I am not sure they would be in Wilson or Rutherford. I would appreciate any help someone might give me on this. I am trying to learn as much as possible about this family now so that I can look for specific information when I take my vacation in Tennessee in late June. I am hoping to stop by Rutherford County Courthouse and spend a day at TSLA in Nashville. Harvey L. Bottoms

Bottoms, Elizabeth to Crockett, D. M. marr 17 Dec 1856 Bottoms, James M. to Davis, Ann F. marr 10 Jan 1855 Bottoms, Nancy E. to Holland, B. H. marr 5 Nov 1854 Here a few weeks ago, I asked who these belong to. The others belong to me. Again does anyone recognize these individuals. Harvey -----Original Message----- From: BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:BOTTOM-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Jim Lantrip Sent: Thursday, May 21, 1998 8:12 AM To: BOTTOM-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOTTOM-L] Gibson, Tennessee Marriages. While helping a friend do some searching last evening I ran across these Gibson Co. Tennessee Marriages. Bottom, Granville to O'Daniel, Ester marr 21 Dec 1854 Bottoms, Elizabeth to Crockett, D. M. marr 17 Dec 1856 Bottoms, James M. to Davis, Ann F. marr 10 Jan 1855 Bottoms, Nancy E. to Holland, B. H. marr 5 Nov 1854 Bottoms, Presley L. to Keathley, Arvazena marr 25 Jul 1857 Good Luck Jim Lantrip

While helping a friend do some searching last evening I ran across these Gibson Co. Tennessee Marriages. Bottom, Granville to O'Daniel, Ester marr 21 Dec 1854 Bottoms, Elizabeth to Crockett, D. M. marr 17 Dec 1856 Bottoms, James M. to Davis, Ann F. marr 10 Jan 1855 Bottoms, Nancy E. to Holland, B. H. marr 5 Nov 1854 Bottoms, Presley L. to Keathley, Arvazena marr 25 Jul 1857 Good Luck Jim Lantrip

MR THOMAS A WELLBORN wrote: > > Have any of the Tennessee Bottom(s) cousins found the name "Burrel(l) > Bottoms", circa 1770-1830's? Originally thought he was from VA. But > have no evidence of him there. The earliest listing I have for him > is in the late 1820's, when Burrel(l) wins a lot in the Georgia > Indian Lands Gold Lottery (1827+/-). I would like to find earlier > records of his family. Possibly need to look for those in Kentucky > as well. Any thoughts or ideas would be appreciated. Also, Does > anyone have a Bottoms family migration map? I would love to see one > developed and I do not have the software as of yet. Thanks - Jewel > > ____ > Jewel and Tom Wellborn Hi Jewel and Tom, I found a Burrell Bottom (b) abt 1758 possibly VA. I have him married to a Sarah Heartsfield. Burrell has two older brothers, Miles and James Armstead Bottom. Miles is my line of the family. Hoping this might be your Burrell, Kathy