I operate alot with floppys in addition to my paper files. I have mail folders divided with each major surname and then one for miscellaneous to catch all the smaller lines. Then I have a few other mail folders: 1. General Info--this is for all those postings of an informational nature as in where to find this or that, and info regarding old occupations,etc.Any reference material I might recheck. 2. Tidbits--this is for any items of an unusual nature such as websites with chronicles of pioneers, age calculators, any out of the ordinary stuff.Any worthwhile tips for research I find go in here. 3. Lookups--this is for anyone who has done lookups for me in certain areas. I have a mail folder for non-connecting persons, ( at least at this point in time). I have a mail folder for queries I have sent and then I delete them once I recieve a satisfactory response. I repost them later if I don't get a response,this way they are all typed up. NOW, with this all said.... As I read my mail or scan it, all the mail can be placed into the appropriate file folders.Some I answer right then, others I just put in the folders.After I have gone through the mail (about 250 a day) then I go back an answer any unanswered ones. About every other day, I sit down and go through all those folders. I have floppys for each family surname(all of them not just the main ones); one for info,one for tidbits,one for nonconnecting; then I maintain some for persons I correspond with on a regular basis. I also have a floppy for each state that I do alot of research in--this one I use for any county info or maps,etc. I have floppys for the following categories: burials,marriages,maps I then take all those mail folders and place the items on the correct floppy.I in that way can: 1.Keep my items in categories 2.Not waste ink printing 3.Get it off my computer in case of a crash. About once every week or so, I take the box of floppys and go through them and place the data from the onto my familytreemaker file where it belongs.Whatever I can't place remains on the floppy. As I check one I then return it to the box,UPSIDE DOWN so I know I did that one. I am fortunate enough to have a zip drive and periodically transfer items to a zip disk. (I am working on obtaining a CD writer).I thereby empty those floppys to reuse. You would be amazed at the items that seemed so vital upon receipt, and then when you look again just really don't fit.Now if I think they "might" later I put it on the floppy for "non-connecting". Ever so often I just get BRUTAL. I go through my floppys with the attitude "I either place it or dump it". This system may sound difficult but really isn't once you get the hang of it.Once I set up the original amount of floppys within the categories I mentioned above I never have to buy new ones as they recycle. All the burials or marriages are on their own floppy so if I am searching for one I don't have to think "who" as I know "where". Next time: The value of Non Connectiing Files Debbie Jennings debj@comsys.net "Following the footprints through time"

Hello Listmembers: Since this seems to be a slack time for postings due alot to vacations and to persons spending more time outdoors I thought I would promote some list activity with a few items: Since many of you have been researching for years and even if you are a beginner, I thought I would ask any of you for some of your tips and suggestions on organization of your files. This always seems to be a problem area with many researchers as the "small original folder" becomes a massive pile of papers and then a file cabinet. Many of you may just have some ideas that will help someone else. Please address these suggestions to the list. Debbie Jennings debj@comsys.net "Following the footprints through time"

Greetings! I recently came across a marvelous find on the WFT Volume 3 CD. On Tree #3087, I found my 2nd great uncle, and his wife Novello Bott. This is extra special, since George and Novello left CO around 1920, and lost contact with the rest of the family. Until yesterday, I had no idea they ever had children, but I found 10 children, lots of grandchildren, and by now, probably some great grandchildren. I'd like very much to contact them, for there was nothing on George's family other than his birthdate. I found that the tree was submitted by Glen A. Johnson, but he was Novello's first cousin, and likely getting on in years, or gone. If any of his descendents are out there, please, please, contact me. There are way too many names to mention here, but I'd like to hear from anyone who thinks or knows they are connected with this line. Locations include Colorado, Pomona California, and even Arizona. Kate

I am researching the line of Hermanus Bott who came to the US in 1743 on the ship the Loyal Judith from Germany.Hermanus was born in 1697 in the Palatine area of Germany and died about July 28 1772 in Bottstown,York county PA. I have the name of his second wife but she is not the mother of his children.I know he married an unknown lady in 1722 prior to his immigration and she is the mother of the children. Any info on this line would be appreciated. Debbie Jennings debj@comsys.net "Following the footprints through time"

Hello Everyone I am sending this out to amend the message I sent the other day regarding a temporary addresss. Apparently my mail server is going through some changes and updates so I have taken the precaution in the meantime of gaining a few new addresses in order to make sure I don't miss any mail. I am almost positive you are as sick of hearing about it as I am in dealing with it. Now for one final time: I can permanently be reached at any of the following addresses, the first one being the primary address. So as you all know I do try to answer ASAP so if I don't then you might assume a problem and send to one of the others. If the problem is not an emergency then I will still receive the mail when the servers go back up ( if they are down) it just might be the next day. I don't mean to confuse anyone by any means. I am just making sure that everyone has a way of contacting me if they need to. First Address: debj@comsys.net Second Address: debbiej_2001@yahoo.com Third Address: djennings35@excite.com They are all checked daily so I shouldn't miss anything. I have experienced in the past listowners who never replied or took forever so I don't want to allow for that possibility. And some of you I converse with on a regular basis. Debbie Jennings debj@comsys.net "Following the footprints through time"

Greetings! After 3 years of precious little on my Bott Ancestors, yesterday I found the family leaving Hamburg in Feb. 1890. They left on the English steamship Lincoln, captained by Seaton. In addition to my gg grandparents, and two of the three children I expected to find, I found another child that no one alive remembers, and one that should have been there (I thought) not there yet. I also found what could very well be my ggg grandparents, and that has me very excited. I hope someone can help fit the missing pieces into the puzzle. I can't find a passenger list for the Lincoln in NY for March or April of 1890, so I don't know if they changed ships in Grimsby and/or Liverpool. I also don't know why it took them three years to get from NY to Globeville, where my ggrandmother was born. I don't know what happened to young Elisabeth, or where and when John (Johannes) might have been born. I also don't know what happened to the older couple traveling with them when they left Hamburg. Here's what I did find: A Johannes and Rosina BOTT, aged 59, and 58. Justus and Christina BOTT, both listed as 29, although most records show Christina should have been 34 at the time. Louise Bott, 6 Georg(e) Bott, 2 Elisabeth Bott, 10 months. All listed Norka, Russia as place of residence, and New York as destination. The ship's destination was listed as "Grimsby (Nordamerika via Liverpool)". The Hamburg list does not name the shipping company, but the agent was Pearson and Langnese, and the passage number was B1890.0192. The passenger numbers, from oldest to youngest goes from 99.0012 through 99.0018. Justus and Christina did end up in Globeville, Colorado by 1893, and Emma was born Apr. 1, 1893. Another daughter, Katherine, was born in Aug. 14, 1904. As I said before, my records show a birthdate of 1889 or 1890 for John, but there's no definite dates where he's concerned, and he never married, so there are no children that we know of. My ggrandmother Emma married August Henke in 1911, or thereabouts, and had 4 children, Karl Frederick, 1912 - 1914, my grandmother Augusta Katherine in 1914, Elsie Louise, (1916-1993)and Walter born in 1918. August and Emma both died of flu in 1920, just after the census was taken, and Katherine married a month later. Louise and her husband Charles Stock raised the children, and had none of their own. Katherine married a D.L. Harris, and I think they had children, but don't know for certain. George married a Novella (or Novello) Smith, and there's no record of children. John never married. Justus and Christina died within a week of one another in 1938. Christina's maiden name may have been Yost, and there's a good chance that she was born in Dec. of 1856. I have no idea what happened to Johannes and Rosina. Does this ship or these people sound familiar to anyone? I'd love to hear from you. Kate Reeves

Listmembers: Today I am going to be going through the subscribers lists for all the mailing lists I administer. I have noticed recently that several persons are listed more then once on some of them. This would cause you to receive duplicate mailings. If I find any I will delete both and then resubscribe one of them. I am letting you know this so if you receive a message saying you were unsubscribed, don't be alarmed as there will be one shortly after resubbing you. This shouldn't affect many persons, and should improve the email of those who are subbed numerous times. Debbie Jennings debj@comsys.net "Following the footprints through time"

Looking for parents of Norbert Bott b. 1837 in Bernharz, Borussia, Germany moved to Jamestown, MI as a child and then to Remus MI. suzy3girls@cs.com

Sorry Debbie...used your message to send it out, and forgot to change the header. I haven't posted yet, so the role call is a good time to put mine in. I don't have much, my Botts were first generation, and I've yet to find out how they got to America. Here's my short list, followed by a narrative of just about all I have. Kate Reeves Yust (c. 1861 - 1934) and Christina Bott (about 1856 - 1934) Both born in Saratov Children: A. Louise Bott (bef 1880 - aft 1920. She married Charles C. Stock on 30 December 1898 at Denver, CO. B. George Bott (bef 1893 - ?)He married Novello Smith on 16 July 1917 at Littleton, Arapahoe County, CO. C. Emma Bott (1893 - 1920) She married August Henke in CO. They had 4 children: 1. Karl Frederick Henke died in infancy. (b. 14 September 1912 d. 4 April 1913 at Globeville, Arapahoe, CO, and is buried at Riverside Cemetery 2. Agusta Katherine Henke.(my grandmother, still living) (b. 24 September 1914, Denver CO.) She married Victor Edwin Masters. They had 3 children, all are still living. 3. Elsie Henke. (b.19 March 1916 - September 1993). She married Leonard Smith after 1932. 4. Walter Henke. He was born circa November 1918 at Denver, CO. He married Winona Carol before 1950 at Denver, CO. Both are still living. They had four children, all are still lving. D. John Bott He was born before 1889. E. Katherine Bott (b. 14 Aug 1904 - 1 Dec 1993) She married D. L. Harris. -------------------------- Details: I. Yuost Bott was also known as Justis Bott Yost Bott, Jost Bott Gust Bott. He Yuost (spelled Yust on 1920 Census) was a railroad laborer. In 1910 his family lived at 313 N. Lincoln Av., Globeville. He was born circa 1861 at Saratof (Saratov), Russia. He married Christine (--?--) before 1880. He died before 7 February 1938 at Denver or Adams Co., CO. He was buried on 7 February 1938 at Crown Hill Cemetery, Wheatridge, CO. In 1920, he and Christine were living with August, Emma and their children at 5024 N. Broadway. Census indicates he and Christine emmigrated in 1890, and were naturalized in 1895 or 1898 (can't tell from the census sheet.) Katherine and Emma were both born in CO, so the family had been somewhere in Colorado in 1893. Yust Bott, filed a notice of intent on 4/8/1893, renounces his allegiance to Alexander II, Emperor of Russia. Naturalization certificate: Gust Bott, (spelled w/a G), became a citizen in Arapahoe Cnty Court, 9/1898. Actual date of the certificate is 10/22/1898. Once again he renouces the Czar of Russia. This reference is from the book of naturalizations, The reference for both is the Colorado State Archives, Arapahoe Cnty Notice of Intent, Book C, page 414, and Vol. M, Certificate #512 (1895-1900). (Naturalization Finals) Yust and Christine had 5 children. A. Louise Bott Raised Augusta, Walter and Elsie. She was born before 1880. She married Charles C. Stock on 30 December 1898 at Denver, CO. She died after 1920. B. George Bott 1910: (Sorry, poor quality on film, very light) Bott, George, laborer, ??41 Sherman 1918 Denver City directory shows the following: Bott, George, car repairer, UPRR , resides 4289 Sherman George was at the 4741 Sherman address in 1910, married Novello in 1917, and shows up with the 4289 Sherman Address in 1918. He was born circa 1887. He married Novello Smith on 16 July 1917 at Littleton, Arapahoe County, CO. C. Emma Bott Third in birth order. Emma and August both succumbed to influenza in Feb 1920. According to US Census for 1920, Emma was 27 on 2/5/1920. That would make her birth year 1893, and date of death after 2/5/1920. She married August Henke at CO. She was born on 1 April 1893 at CO. She died on 10 February 1920 at Denver, CO, at age 26. 1. Karl Frederick Henke died in infancy. He was born on 14 September 1912 at Globeville, Arapahoe, CO. He died on 4 April 1913 at Globeville, Arapahoe, CO, and is buried at Riverside Cemetery 2. Agusta Katherine Henke.(my grandmother, still living) She was born on 24 September 1914 at Denver CO. She married Victor Edwin Masters, son of Mr. Henry Edwin Masters and Nettie Edith Short, circa 1934. They had 3 children, all are still living. 3. Elsie Henke. She was born on 19 March 1916. She married Leonard Smith after 1932. She died in September 1993 at age 77. They adopted two children, both are still living. 4. Walter Henke. He was born circa November 1918 at Denver, CO. He married Winona Carol before 1950 at Denver, CO. Both are still living. They had four children, all are still lving. D. John Bott 4th in Birth order in 1895 Denver City Directory, same address as Gust Bott, John, laborer, resides 313 N. Lincoln Av., Globeville. He was born before 1889. E. Katherine Bott She married D. L. Harris. She was born on 14 August 1904 at CO. 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I haven't posted yet, so the role call is a good time to put mine in. I don't have much, my Botts were first generation, and I've yet to find out how they got to America. Here's my short list, followed by a narrative of just about all I have. Kate Reeves Yust (c. 1861 - 1934) and Christina Bott (about 1856 - 1934) Both born in Saratov Children: A. Louise Bott (bef 1880 - aft 1920. She married Charles C. Stock on 30 December 1898 at Denver, CO. B. George Bott (bef 1893 - ?)He married Novello Smith on 16 July 1917 at Littleton, Arapahoe County, CO. C. Emma Bott (1893 - 1920) She married August Henke in CO. They had 4 children: 1. Karl Frederick Henke died in infancy. (b. 14 September 1912 d. 4 April 1913 at Globeville, Arapahoe, CO, and is buried at Riverside Cemetery 2. Agusta Katherine Henke.(my grandmother, still living) (b. 24 September 1914, Denver CO.) She married Victor Edwin Masters. They had 3 children, all are still living. 3. Elsie Henke. (b.19 March 1916 - September 1993). She married Leonard Smith after 1932. 4. Walter Henke. He was born circa November 1918 at Denver, CO. He married Winona Carol before 1950 at Denver, CO. Both are still living. They had four children, all are still lving. D. John Bott He was born before 1889. E. Katherine Bott (b. 14 Aug 1904 - 1 Dec 1993) She married D. L. Harris. -------------------------- Details: I. Yuost Bott was also known as Justis Bott Yost Bott, Jost Bott Gust Bott. He Yuost (spelled Yust on 1920 Census) was a railroad laborer. In 1910 his family lived at 313 N. Lincoln Av., Globeville. He was born circa 1861 at Saratof (Saratov), Russia. He married Christine (--?--) before 1880. He died before 7 February 1938 at Denver or Adams Co., CO. He was buried on 7 February 1938 at Crown Hill Cemetery, Wheatridge, CO. In 1920, he and Christine were living with August, Emma and their children at 5024 N. Broadway. Census indicates he and Christine emmigrated in 1890, and were naturalized in 1895 or 1898 (can't tell from the census sheet.) Katherine and Emma were both born in CO, so the family had been somewhere in Colorado in 1893. Yust Bott, filed a notice of intent on 4/8/1893, renounces his allegiance to Alexander II, Emperor of Russia. Naturalization certificate: Gust Bott, (spelled w/a G), became a citizen in Arapahoe Cnty Court, 9/1898. Actual date of the certificate is 10/22/1898. Once again he renouces the Czar of Russia. This reference is from the book of naturalizations, The reference for both is the Colorado State Archives, Arapahoe Cnty Notice of Intent, Book C, page 414, and Vol. M, Certificate #512 (1895-1900). (Naturalization Finals) Yust and Christine had 5 children. A. Louise Bott Raised Augusta, Walter and Elsie. She was born before 1880. She married Charles C. Stock on 30 December 1898 at Denver, CO. She died after 1920. B. George Bott 1910: (Sorry, poor quality on film, very light) Bott, George, laborer, ??41 Sherman 1918 Denver City directory shows the following: Bott, George, car repairer, UPRR , resides 4289 Sherman George was at the 4741 Sherman address in 1910, married Novello in 1917, and shows up with the 4289 Sherman Address in 1918. He was born circa 1887. He married Novello Smith on 16 July 1917 at Littleton, Arapahoe County, CO. C. Emma Bott Third in birth order. Emma and August both succumbed to influenza in Feb 1920. According to US Census for 1920, Emma was 27 on 2/5/1920. That would make her birth year 1893, and date of death after 2/5/1920. She married August Henke at CO. She was born on 1 April 1893 at CO. She died on 10 February 1920 at Denver, CO, at age 26. 1. Karl Frederick Henke died in infancy. He was born on 14 September 1912 at Globeville, Arapahoe, CO. He died on 4 April 1913 at Globeville, Arapahoe, CO, and is buried at Riverside Cemetery 2. Agusta Katherine Henke.(my grandmother, still living) She was born on 24 September 1914 at Denver CO. She married Victor Edwin Masters, son of Mr. Henry Edwin Masters and Nettie Edith Short, circa 1934. They had 3 children, all are still living. 3. Elsie Henke. She was born on 19 March 1916. She married Leonard Smith after 1932. She died in September 1993 at age 77. They adopted two children, both are still living. 4. Walter Henke. He was born circa November 1918 at Denver, CO. He married Winona Carol before 1950 at Denver, CO. Both are still living. They had four children, all are still lving. D. John Bott 4th in Birth order in 1895 Denver City Directory, same address as Gust Bott, John, laborer, resides 313 N. Lincoln Av., Globeville. He was born before 1889. E. Katherine Bott She married D. L. Harris. She was born on 14 August 1904 at CO. She died on 1 December 1993 at age 89.

I am researching the line of Hermanus Bott who came to the US in 1743 on the ship the Loyal Judith from Germany.Hermanus was born in 1697 in the Palatine area of Germany and died about July 28 1772 in Bottstown,York county PA. I have the name of his second wife but she is not the mother of his children.I know he married an unknown lady in 1722 prior to his immigration and she is the mother of the children. Any info on this line would be appreciated. Debbie Jennings debj@comsys.net "Following the footprints through time"

There have been many questions this evening as to how exactly to post a query for a list. The most successful I have found is to include the name of the person,and pertinent info such as birth,marriage,death,children,burial that you may have.Also the known locality of that person during a given time period. This all for identification purposes so someone can match up with it and help you. Something on the order of this: I am searching for John SMITH born 1798 in MD. He married Jane BROWN sometime in 1820 in Anne Arundel county. We think they migrated to Nelson county KY around 1825. They had 3 known children, all sons. They might be more. I can find nothing on this family after 1850 and they were in Washington county IN at that time. I hope this is of help to some of you who had the questions. Debbie Jennings debj@comsys.net "Following the footprints through time"

There seems to be some massive confusion on the posting of the roll calls to the list. I am not saying that you cannot write to me with questions and such. What I am saying when I say, "post to the list and not to me personally" is that even though I am tracing various lines, I am not tracing ALL the surnames in the world. So in posting to me it only reaches me and if you want to reach the most people possible then you would want to post to the list. Since I am writing to alot of lists with this post please post to: Thelistname-L@rootsweb.com please fill in the list name that you are on. Debbie Jennings debj@comsys.net "Following the footprints through time"

Hi List! This is my query for the roll call! Looking for information on the parentage of Frank A. Bott born 10-6-1903 in Michigan died 10-22-1970 in Buckley,Michigan. Married Mabel M. Oyler on 9-18-1931 in Buckley,Michigan Believed he lived on farm in Hannah/Buckley,Michigan that has been in the family for over 100 years. Frank and Mabel had Frank,William,Owen,Ronald and Carolyn all born in Buckley,Michigan between 1933 to1952 Thanks Janice Cafarelli jancaf@juno.com ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hi List I am looking for any information on JAMES BOTT who married DOROTHY INCE in 1793 at Bromsgrove in Worcs. The had 4 children Elizabeth b. 1794 another Elizabeth b. 1796 Peter b. 1797 (my 3xgg grandfather) and James b. and died 1799. Dorothy also died in 1799, she was a widow when she married James.I have been stuck at this point for about 3 years. Who was James parents? where was he born?There is 1 possibility on the IGI but I would be assuming.If anyone can help I would be pleased to hear from them. It is made even more difficult as James seems to have been the favourite christian name of the BOTT's. Thanks Hazel in South Yorks. My homepage is now at; http://bott.homepage.com

How about a roll call on the list. Lets run it from today,Saturday July 22 through till midnight of next Saturday July 29 at midnight. Please include name or surnames,localities if you have them,and dates. To increase your opportunities for responses add as much data as you have. Please,please send these to the list address and not to me personally. Try to answer any that you can in order to help others. FOR THE NEW SUBSCRIBERS AND OTHERS NOT AWARE OF WHAT A ROLL CALL IS: It is like an all points bulletin for everyone to post a query as to who you are searching for pertaining to the list you are subscribed to. Subject lines will usually include: Name of person/location/time period Debbie Jennings debj@comsys.net "Following the footprints through time"

To all listmembers I am presently back on the computer and back online. How much is lost I cannot tell as of yet. Luckily my father had a back up of family file, I am however using today to restore favorites and different programs. My largest irreplaceable loss was my address book, as the other items I think I have on a zip in compressed folders but until I have the program installed I will be unable to open them. If you have been corresponding with me personally on a line then please please send me your address. Thanks Debbie

I am the father of Debbie Jennings, Debbiej_2000, listowner of this list.She is experiencing severe computer difficulties, and might be off line a couple of weeks. Almost all of the lines covered on her various lists are being researched by me, as well. Feel free to contact me with any questions, or problems, and I will either answer to the best of my ability, or get an answer from her, and forward to you. Dick Carter rcar37@prodigy.net

I have several Rev. War soldiers that I descend from. They too made sacrifices. Have you ever wondered what happened to the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence? Five signers were captured by the British as traitors, and tortured before they died. Twelve had their homes ransacked and burned. Two lost their sons serving in the Revolutionary Army, another had two sons captured. Nine of the 56 fought and died from wounds or hardships of the Revolutionary War. They signed and they pledged their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor. What kind of men were they? Twenty-four were lawyers and jurists. Eleven were merchants, nine were farmers and large plantation owners; men of means, well educated. But they signed the Declaration of Independence knowing full well that the penalty would be death if they were captured. Carter Braxton of Virginia, a wealthy planter and trader, saw his ships swept from the seas by the British Navy. He sold his home and properties to pay his debts, and died in rags. Thomas McKeam was so hounded by the British that he was forced to move his family almost constantly. He served in the Congress without pay, and his family was kept in hiding. His possessions were taken from him, and poverty was his reward. Vandals or soldiers looted the properties of Dillery, Hall, Clymer, Walton, Gwinnett, Heyward, Ruttledge, and Middleton. At the battle of Yorktown, Thomas Nelson, Jr., noted that the British General Cornwallis had taken over the Nelson home for his headquarters. He quietly urged General George Washington to open fire. The home was destroyed, and Nelson died bankrupt. Francis Lewis had his home and properties destroyed. The enemy jailed his wife, and she died within a few months. John Hart was driven from his wife's bedside as she was dying. Their 13 children fled for their lives. His fields and his gristmill were laid to waste. For more than a year he lived in forests and caves, returning home to find his wife dead and his children vanished. A few weeks later he died from exhaustion and a broken heart. Norris and Livingston suffered similar fates. Such were the stories and sacrifices of the American Revolution. These were not wild eyed, rabble-rousing ruffians. They were soft-spoken men of means and education. They had security, but they valued liberty more. Standing tall, straight, and unwavering, they pledged: "For the support of this declaration, with firm reliance on the protection of the divine providence, we mutually pledge to each other, our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor." They gave you and me a free and independent America. The history books never told you a lot of what happened in the Revolutionary War. We didn't just fight the British. We were British subjects at that time and we fought our own government! Some of us take these liberties so much for granted...We shouldn't. So, take a couple of minutes while enjoying your 4th of July holiday and silently thank these patriots. It's not much to ask for the price they paid.............. ===== Debra Jennings debbiej_2001@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Kick off your party with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com/

Listmembers: I am having problems of an undetermined nature with my server. For some reason I am being prevented from 'sending' mail to any aol.com addresses although I seem to have no problem receiving it. So for the time being if any of you write to me and have an aol.com address then the answer to you will be on the list as it is the only way I have of getting through to you and I would much rather do that then you to think I am deliberately ignoring you. So since there have been some of you who have written my since Friday when this started and I haven't answered you I am very sorry and will try to get an answer to you. Debbie Jennings Listowner I am currently using the email address of debbiej_2001@yahoo.com until the problem is ironed out. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/