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    1. Re: [BOSTON] "PE" as residence in Social Security Death Index?
    2. Molly.
    3. Hi, Taken from the ssdi information pages: <Some search results will show the following codes or abbreviations, usually in parentheses: 72, PE, FO, HC, VA. These are internal codes used by the Social Security Administration and can be ignored. The abbreviation VA does not mean Virginia or Veterans' Administration.> Other than that ,the only other PE listed is Peru.Prince Edward Island would be PE,Can. Maureen (NY,USA) OLD CITY DIRECTORIES ON CD's! Great for finding elusive census addresses! http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/molly./ Ye Old Directory Shoppe Stop in and break down those brick walls http://yeoldedirectoryshoppe.com/oldcitydirectories/CD.html MOODY> Family and decendants http://www.geocities.com/molly19_55/index.html Researching: O'CONNELL/CONNELL, CULLITY, FORREST, MOODY, AVENT, TRIGGS, TRINNICK,HOLLAND, GARDINER, FLOOD, KNOWELL, O'DONOGHUE/DONOGHUE/DONOHUE, RYAN, PELLICY, SULLIVAN/O'SULLIVAN, JAMES, HENNING, MATTHEWS, ROWE, ELLIS, PETERS, CHAMBERLAIN, FROST, SNOW, CRUWYS, REED, PARKIN, WILLIAMS, VITA, PELUSO, VIVACQUA, CANTONE, PERRONE, ORLANDO,and ROSA Also:SHANNON, READEY, WYNNE/WINNE, McDONNEL, SEAWOOD, MAHRENHOLZ, HOKE, HUMPHREYS, GROS, BRANSBY, DeVINE, PAUBA/POUBA, HEJL, AMREITER, RITZ, CHARVAT. ----- Original Message ----- From: <JBRO66@aol.com> To: <BOSTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 6:53 PM Subject: [BOSTON] "PE" as residence in Social Security Death Index? > Can anyone tell me what the abbreviation "PE" might be as given as a last > residence in the Social Security Death Index? > > I don't think it is an error for "PA", because I have seen it on other > records. Nor do I think it is Puerto Rico or Prince Edward Island. > > Has anyone else encountered this? Thanks! > > Jerry > > > ==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== > Order Birth, Marriage and Death Records from Boston City Hall: > http://www.ci.boston.ma.us/registry/registry1.asp > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

    01/13/2002 10:34:52
    1. [BOSTON] O'Shea/Emblen
    2. janet garland
    3. Deirdre, thanks for your reply. I am quite exited as the O'Shea's that I am interested in were from Cork too. I know this as my mother went back there to the family first with the young John O'Shea and in fact I believe that the family there adopted him as my mother had no means of support at the time. I would dearly love to share what information you have. Thanks Pat.

    01/13/2002 10:20:11
    1. Re: [BOSTON] "PE" as residence in Social Security Death Index?
    2. Dave and Emma Richardson -
    3. The only USPS designators similar are PALAU PW PENNSYLVANIA PA PUERTO RICO PR DELAWARE DE MAINE ME NEBRASKA NE see http://www.usps.com/ncsc/lookups/usps_abbreviations.html#states Dave JBRO66@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone tell me what the abbreviation "PE" might be as given as a last > residence in the Social Security Death Index? > > I don't think it is an error for "PA", because I have seen it on other > records. Nor do I think it is Puerto Rico or Prince Edward Island. > > Has anyone else encountered this? Thanks! > > Jerry > > ==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== > Order Birth, Marriage and Death Records from Boston City Hall: > http://www.ci.boston.ma.us/registry/registry1.asp > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- See my surname list at: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/surnames.htm The Richardson Memorial CD-Rom at http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/cd.htm Home page: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/ Most useful web sites: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/useful_sites.htm David C. and Emma J. Richardson 130 Gingercake Ct. Fayetteville GA 30214-7600 Emma's E-mail ejrichardson@mindspring.com

    01/13/2002 12:32:27
    1. [BOSTON] "PE" as residence in Social Security Death Index?
    2. Can anyone tell me what the abbreviation "PE" might be as given as a last residence in the Social Security Death Index? I don't think it is an error for "PA", because I have seen it on other records. Nor do I think it is Puerto Rico or Prince Edward Island. Has anyone else encountered this? Thanks! Jerry

    01/13/2002 11:53:54
    1. [BOSTON] Final Countdown to GENTECH 2002
    2. Sharon Sergeant
    3. FYI Update excerpt attached from NEHGS newsletter - AND don't forget that the GENTECH exhibit hall at the Hynes Convention Center is free and open to the public, so if you are in the Boston area, you can also drop in and spend a few hours. Final Countdown to GENTECH 2002 Two weeks from today the long-awaited GENTECH conference in Boston will be underway! The two-day conference (January 25 and 26) features over fifty genealogical lectures on topics ranging from genetics to geographic information systems, an exhibit hall full of vendors with the latest products, and a banquet talk by Dr. Bryan Sykes, author of the best-selling book, The Seven Daughters of Eve: The Science That Reveals Our Genetic Ancestry. Two of the program tracks are devoted to web resources, and include topics such as "NEHGS Online: Finding Your Family Electronically " by NEHGS director of electronic publications Michael J. Leclerc and "How to Cite Your Internet Sources" by Cyndi Howells. If you have not yet registered for the conference, there is still time! If you are going to mail your registration (GENTECH 2002, c/o NEHGS, 101 Newbury St., Boston, MA 02116), please plan to have it arrive before January 18. If you are going to fax (508-788-9500) or phone in (toll-free 1-888-296-3447) your registration, please do so by 5 p.m. Eastern time on Tuesday, January 22. Or you can register on-site at the Hynes Convention Center, located at 900 Boylston Street in Boston. Registration hours are: Thursday, January 24 10:30 a.m.� 8 p.m. Friday, January 25 7 a.m. � 6 p.m. Saturday, January 26 7 a.m. � 10 a.m. In addition, Librarians' Day, a pre-conference event, will take place on Thursday, January 24. The last day for registration for that event is Friday, January 18. There is also still time to make your hotel reservations. Two well-known Boston hotels are making a once in a lifetime hotel rate available to GENTECH attendees: $119 per night! In the heart of Boston's Back Bay, and directly across the street from the Hynes Convention Center, the Back Bay Hilton invites you to take advantage of this special rate and enjoy all the amenities this first-class hotel has to offer. On the south side of the Hynes Convention Center is the four-star Colonnade Hotel, offering elegantly appointed rooms in the European style. Both hotels are just minutes from the GENTECH conference. For reservations call: Hilton Back Bay 617-236-1100 (The special rate is good only through January 12.) Colonnade 617-424-7000 (The special rate is good only through January 19.) Please mention GENTECH to receive this special rate. For more information about GENTECH, please call 1-888-296-3447 from 9 a.m. - 5 p.m. Eastern time, Monday through Friday, or visit http://www.gentech.org/. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Book Signings at the NEHGS Booth at GENTECH GENTECH conference attendees are invited to visit the NEHGS booth and meet seven different genealogical authors. Even if you are not registered for the conference, you are welcome to visit the NEHGS booth and the exhibit hall, which is free and open to the public. Friday, January 25 10-10:30 Marcia Melnyk, author of Genealogist's Handbook for New England Research and The Weekend Genealogist: Time-Saving Techniques for Effective Research 11:30-12 Ann Smith Lainhart, author of Digging for Genealogical Treasure in New England Town Records and State Census Records, and co-author of Inscriptions and Records of the Old Cemeteries of Boston and Deaths in the Town of Boston, 1700-1799. 1:30-2 Ralph J. Crandall, executive director of the New England Historic Genealogical Society and author of Shaking Your Family Tree: A Basic Guide to Tracing Your Family's Genealogy 1:30-3 Gary Boyd Roberts, senior research scholar at the New England Historic Genealogical Society and author of Royal Descents of 500 Immigrants and Notable Kin, volumes 1 and 2. 3-3:30 Maureen Taylor, author of Preserving Your Family Photographs: How to Organize, Present, and Restore Your Precious Family Images, Uncovering Your Ancestry Through Family Photographs, and Through the Eyes of Your Ancestors. 4:30-5 Tony Burroughs, author of Black Roots: A Beginner's Guide to Tracing the African American Family Tree Also Sharon DeBartolo Carmack, author of Organizing Your Family History Search, A Genealogist's Guide to Discovering Your Female Ancestors, A Genealogist's Guide to Discovering Your Immigrant and Ethnic Ancestors, and My Wild Irish Rose: The Life of Rose (Norris) (O'Connor) Fitzhugh and her mother Delia (Gordon) Norris (Signing time to be announced) Saturday, January 26 11:30-12 Rhonda McClure, author of The Complete Idiot's Guide to Online Genealogy and The Genealogist's Computer Companion. 1-2 Ralph J. Crandall, executive director of the New England Historic Genealogical Society and author of Shaking Your Family Tree: A Basic Guide to Tracing Your Family's Genealogy Also Sharon DeBartolo Carmack, author of Organizing Your Family History Search, A Genealogist's Guide to Discovering Your Female Ancestors, A Genealogist's Guide to Discovering Your Immigrant and Ethnic Ancestors, and My Wild Irish Rose: The Life of Rose (Norris) (O'Connor) Fitzhugh and her mother Delia (Gordon) Norris (Signing time to be announced) If you have any questions about the NEHGS book signings at GENTECH, please contact Lynn Betlock at nehgs@nehgs.org. Dreams of Freedom: Boston's Immigration Museum GENTECH conference attendees (or those planning a future trip to Boston) might want to visit one of Boston's newest museums, Dreams of Freedom. Located along the historic Freedom Trail, Dreams of Freedom is a high tech multimedia exhibit depicting Boston's colorful history of immigration. Using a combination of cherished objects, vintage photos, holographic characters, and other special effects, Dreams of Freedom recreates the atmosphere, context, and emotion of the immigrant experience. Produced by the International Institute of Boston, Dreams of Freedom explores numerous personal stories of departure and arrival, prosperity and hardship, welcome and discrimination. The museum is located at One Milk Street, at the corner of Milk and Washington Streets, in downtown Boston. For more information call 617-338-6022 or visit http://www.dreamsoffreedom..org. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

    01/13/2002 11:40:03
    1. [BOSTON] Perhaps this fits into someone's tree?
    2. Christina Aubin
    3. Donor, long dead, leaves millions and mystery to libraries By Greg Sukiennik, Associated Press, 1/13/2002 10:47 HOPKINTON, Mass. (AP) A retired letter carrier, the frugal son of Irish immigrants, left this town's library a modest gift when he died more than 60 years ago: money he'd managed to save and wisely invest. He set up a trust worth about $71,000 and named three beneficiaries, stipulating that when they died, the remaining money should go to the libraries in Hopkinton and Boston to buy books. His last heir now dead, his gift has grown to more than $3 million. But there's a catch: the little library in Hopkinton, which received $1.2 million, is already stuffed to the rafters. And, since Bernard J. McGovern was so specific in his 1940 will about how to use the money, authorities say his gift can't help the library with much-needed expansion or even buy books on tape unless the courts approve an expansion of the will. Former librarian Rose Leveille, who worked at the library for 31 years, is among few Hopkinton residents who were aware of McGovern and his last wishes. When she saw a funeral notice for Virginia Bernsten nearly two years ago, Leveille knew exactly what it meant: McGovern's niece was his last beneficiary. ''I have seen copies of that will and a report (from the town treasurer) every year,'' she said. ''I was always very much aware of this. The people who were library directors before me certainly knew. But I don't think the townspeople knew.'' But the question that still persists is why McGovern left the money to those two libraries and time has stolen the answer. There was no one to thank when the town received a check for $1,174,332 last fall. McGovern had no children. No next of kin can be found. Town officials are now exploring possible expansion of the will. At present the money would buy more books than the library could possibly hold. ''It's a great boon to us eventually, but right now it's a little bit of a dilemma,'' library director Carol Walsh says. Shelves are shoehorned into every possible nook and cranny of the cozy 105-year-old building, which trustee Jack Donahue calls ''the Fenway Park of libraries.'' Even the window sills hold books. Shelves holding stacks of DVDs and books on compact disc run down the middle of a hallway that connects the library with a wing added in 1967, a former Episcopal church. The library still uses a paper card catalog, and has managed to squeeze in three computers for public use. A larger, handicapped-accessible children's department is a pressing need. So is space for computer equipment and a meeting room. While the Boston Public Library received the larger share of the money, the similarities are few. The largest gift that library ever received was from the late Thomas R. Drey Jr., who left his entire $6.8 million fortune. The BPL has a yearly acquisition budget of $3 million; Hopkinton's is $35,000. The life of McGovern and how he managed to save an estate worth $71,000 at the end of the Great Depression is a bit of a mystery. Probate court files show he was shrewd with money, even in those hard times. An inventory of McGovern's estate outlines a pattern of diversified investing, largely in utilities. He also had eight separate passbook savings accounts, each holding between $3,000 and $5,000. He was born to Bernard and Catherine McGovern on Oct. 26, 1870, in Hopkinton. He worked alongside his father at one of several shoe factories in town through the turn of the century. At some point McGovern moved to the Dorchester neighborhood of Boston. He met and married Lenora Lemmon, a child of Irish immigrants like himself. She died of pneumonia March 8, 1923, at 58. McGovern, 69, signed his will in August 1940. Three months later, he died, and the trust was established by 1942 at New England Trust Co. Years passed. Then decades. On April 8, 2000, Berntsen died at age 95. ''I wish now we asked how it all happened,'' said says Mary Morrissey, whose mother, Mary Cronin, befriended Berntsen the last 20 years of her life. ''We did know about the trust that the library would receive a large sum of money that was no secret. But nobody ever said, ''Why did he do that?''' If Berntsen knew her uncle's motive, she never shared it. ''She was a very private person. She didn't volunteer much information about her family,'' Morrissey says. ''If she didn't tell my mother, she didn't tell anybody.'' Leveille has similar regrets. ''It's too bad. I knew people who knew him, people he was acquainted with. I'd love to find out if they knew,'' she says. The story also had a bittersweet ending for Berntsen. Like McGovern, she, too, was widowed. She was famously thrifty, Morrissey says, and loved spending time at the Boston Public Library. But years of nursing home care whittled away her nest egg, to the point where she needed public assistance in the end. McGovern's will had one crucial flaw: no adjustment for inflation. Though the trust grew to $3 million, Berntsen received just $40 a month until the day she died. ''In the end she had needs, and we could never do anything about it,'' Morrissey said.

    01/13/2002 11:18:13
    1. [BOSTON] Ward # in South Boston 1886
    2. Hello. I am looking for the ward number for F Street in South Boston in 1886. Any information will be appreciated. Thank you and best wishes. Bob. Researching O'Connor, O'Mara, Goggin, Tennihan, Dizoglio and Cole.

    01/13/2002 10:39:18
    1. RE: [BOSTON] 1850 and 1860
    2. Nancy Atkinson
    3. According to the National Archives website (www.nara.gov) it looks like there are 6 rolls of film for 1850 Boston and another 6 rolls for 1860 Boston. For more infor see: http://www.nara.gov/publications/microfilm/census/1790-1890/17901890.html Nancy -----Original Message----- From: Gemcolleen@aol.com [mailto:Gemcolleen@aol.com] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 3:24 PM To: BOSTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOSTON] 1850 and 1860 Does anyone know how many rolls of microfilm there are for each of these census years [1850, 1860] for Boston. I am thinking in terms of ordering them to inspect at the LDS family history library. Are the censuses organized strictly according to wards in Boston? Are the wards enumeration districts? _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com

    01/13/2002 09:30:46
    1. [BOSTON] 1850 and 1860
    2. Does anyone know how many rolls of microfilm there are for each of these census years [1850, 1860] for Boston. I am thinking in terms of ordering them to inspect at the LDS family history library. Are the censuses organized strictly according to wards in Boston? Are the wards enumeration districts?

    01/13/2002 08:24:12
    1. [BOSTON] O'Shea/Emblen
    2. janet garland
    3. Thanks to the persons who answered my original query. As I am a pensioner and the Aussie dollar is only worth 52c expensive lookups are not a viable option for me. I was hoping that maybe there would be some data available on the net which I could use. Briefly: My mother Beatrice Victoria Emblen went to Boston before WW1. Apparently she was too young to marry (she was born 1897) and I suspect she put her age up a year to marry an O'Shea who was dying of TB. She had a son ,John O'Shea and after her husband died returned to GB on the Mauritania, I believe. Her Uncle (an Emblen perhaps) had a practice in Virginia Plain? Any help as to how I could get some info on these matters would be much appreciated. Pat Garland. Perth Aust.

    01/13/2002 04:19:02
    1. RE: [BOSTON] Boston Brothels in the 1800s
    2. Christina Aubin
    3. I would go with the Hostler first -- as a hostler ran a hotel/boarding house - maybe what you are seeking... Good luck! -----Original Message----- From: MikenHelene [mailto:carsonmh@volfirst.net] Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 8:59 PM To: BOSTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BOSTON] Boston Brothels in the 1800s I found a few John Kirby's in the Ancestry.com indexes that just might help you out. The info is as follows: 1850 KIRBY JOHN Middlesex County MA 410 St.Ow Federal Population Schedule MA 1850 Federal Census Index 1850 KIRBY JOHN* Suffolk County MA 190 Boston 9th Ward Federal Population Schedule MA 1850 Federal Census Index 1850 KIRBY JOHN Worcester County MA 380 Oakham Federal Population Schedule MA 1850 Federal Census Index 1860 KIRBY JOHN Suffolk County MA 400 10 W. Boston Federal Population Schedule MA 1860 Federal Census Index 1860 KIRBY JOHN Norfolk County MA 646 5 W. Roxbury Federal Population Schedule MA 1860 Federal Census Index There are also 12 John Kirby's listed in the 1890 Boston Directory that also came from Ancestry, I know this is a little later than you wanted, but I thought anything might help John Kirby hostler 22 Benton Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer 15 Piedmont Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer 267 D Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer 11 Oxford place Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer 241 Paris Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer 27 Fabin Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer boards 27 Fabin Boston MA 1890 John Kirby teamster 3 Chadwick place Boston MA 1890 John B. Kirby foreman 65 Maywood Boston MA 1890 John E. Kirby liquors 10 Charles River avenue 85 Washington, Charlestown Hope some of this helps Helene ---------- WE HAVE OLD CITY DIRECTORIES ON CD http://www.oldcitydirectory.com Mike and Helene Carson OR Check out our auctions at Ebay at: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mikenhelene/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gemcolleen@aol.com> To: <BOSTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 3:39 PM Subject: [BOSTON] Boston Brothels in the 1800s > Apparently my great great grandmother lost her husband aboard ship on the > way over here from Ireland. They ended up in Canada and she and her children > and her brother had to walk down to Boston. They didn't have much money and > little means of support so she and her brother opened up a brothel so she > could take care of her children. This was sometime around and after the > potato famine in Ireland. > I don't know what her first name was nor do I know her brother's name. > All I know about her is that she had one son named John Kirby who was born > July 1841 in Ireland.(probably County Mayo) > I plan on examining censuses of Boston for 1850 and 1860 to see if I can find > family who looks like my Kirbys.... However I imagine it will be a hard task. > One question: Which one of the wards in Boston during the 1850s give or take > a few years is a prime cadidate for a district that might have a brothel. > Notes on the descendents of the woman. My father thought it was a hoot. My > uncle was so embarrassed about the fact that he refused to discuss it. > Apparently mentioning such things hanging from the family tree is > embarrassing to people who have finally made it. > Apparently she was able to help some of her children get to college. Where > there's a will there's a way. > And if this story rings a bell with any of you let me know. > > > ==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== > Visiting Boston? > http://www.bostonusa.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/01 ==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== Visiting Boston? http://www.bostonusa.com/ ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

    01/12/2002 02:05:44
    1. [BOSTON] Boston Brothels in the 1800s
    2. Apparently my great great grandmother lost her husband aboard ship on the way over here from Ireland. They ended up in Canada and she and her children and her brother had to walk down to Boston. They didn't have much money and little means of support so she and her brother opened up a brothel so she could take care of her children. This was sometime around and after the potato famine in Ireland. I don't know what her first name was nor do I know her brother's name. All I know about her is that she had one son named John Kirby who was born July 1841 in Ireland.(probably County Mayo) I plan on examining censuses of Boston for 1850 and 1860 to see if I can find family who looks like my Kirbys.... However I imagine it will be a hard task. One question: Which one of the wards in Boston during the 1850s give or take a few years is a prime cadidate for a district that might have a brothel. Notes on the descendents of the woman. My father thought it was a hoot. My uncle was so embarrassed about the fact that he refused to discuss it. Apparently mentioning such things hanging from the family tree is embarrassing to people who have finally made it. Apparently she was able to help some of her children get to college. Where there's a will there's a way. And if this story rings a bell with any of you let me know.

    01/12/2002 11:39:44
    1. Re: [BOSTON] Boston Brothels in the 1800s
    2. MikenHelene
    3. I found a few John Kirby's in the Ancestry.com indexes that just might help you out. The info is as follows: 1850 KIRBY JOHN Middlesex County MA 410 St.Ow Federal Population Schedule MA 1850 Federal Census Index 1850 KIRBY JOHN* Suffolk County MA 190 Boston 9th Ward Federal Population Schedule MA 1850 Federal Census Index 1850 KIRBY JOHN Worcester County MA 380 Oakham Federal Population Schedule MA 1850 Federal Census Index 1860 KIRBY JOHN Suffolk County MA 400 10 W. Boston Federal Population Schedule MA 1860 Federal Census Index 1860 KIRBY JOHN Norfolk County MA 646 5 W. Roxbury Federal Population Schedule MA 1860 Federal Census Index There are also 12 John Kirby's listed in the 1890 Boston Directory that also came from Ancestry, I know this is a little later than you wanted, but I thought anything might help John Kirby hostler 22 Benton Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer 15 Piedmont Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer 267 D Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer 11 Oxford place Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer 241 Paris Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer 27 Fabin Boston MA 1890 John Kirby laborer boards 27 Fabin Boston MA 1890 John Kirby teamster 3 Chadwick place Boston MA 1890 John B. Kirby foreman 65 Maywood Boston MA 1890 John E. Kirby liquors 10 Charles River avenue 85 Washington, Charlestown Hope some of this helps Helene ---------- WE HAVE OLD CITY DIRECTORIES ON CD http://www.oldcitydirectory.com Mike and Helene Carson OR Check out our auctions at Ebay at: http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/mikenhelene/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <Gemcolleen@aol.com> To: <BOSTON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 3:39 PM Subject: [BOSTON] Boston Brothels in the 1800s > Apparently my great great grandmother lost her husband aboard ship on the > way over here from Ireland. They ended up in Canada and she and her children > and her brother had to walk down to Boston. They didn't have much money and > little means of support so she and her brother opened up a brothel so she > could take care of her children. This was sometime around and after the > potato famine in Ireland. > I don't know what her first name was nor do I know her brother's name. > All I know about her is that she had one son named John Kirby who was born > July 1841 in Ireland.(probably County Mayo) > I plan on examining censuses of Boston for 1850 and 1860 to see if I can find > family who looks like my Kirbys.... However I imagine it will be a hard task. > One question: Which one of the wards in Boston during the 1850s give or take > a few years is a prime cadidate for a district that might have a brothel. > Notes on the descendents of the woman. My father thought it was a hoot. My > uncle was so embarrassed about the fact that he refused to discuss it. > Apparently mentioning such things hanging from the family tree is > embarrassing to people who have finally made it. > Apparently she was able to help some of her children get to college. Where > there's a will there's a way. > And if this story rings a bell with any of you let me know. > > > ==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== > Visiting Boston? > http://www.bostonusa.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/01

    01/12/2002 10:58:37
    1. Re: [BOSTON] Need help with a farmer's market location
    2. EDWARD D COSTELLO
    3. ToWhomItMayInterest: At one time, during the 1930's & earlier, there was a farmers market in Brighton on Washington St near Commonwealth Ave, also next to St Rafael's Monistery RCCh & near St Elizabeth's Hosp. They sold produce from a nearby rather large truck farm. The land is now occupied by a Veterans Hosp, another hosp & a City of Boston Houseing project. All The Best, ED COSTELLO, 1009 Blenheim Dr Raleigh NC 27612 , tel: 919-782-6058; COSTELLO (FAHEY): Co Mayo Ireland > CT, MA, ME USA > USA; JOYCE (DOWER): Co Mayo Ireland > MA USA; HAGGERTY (McGUIRE): Co Donegal Ireland > NB Canada > ME USA > USA; LAVERTY (BROWN), (KELLY): Co Armagh Ireland > NB Canada > ME, CA USA > USA, Canada. ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.

    01/07/2002 02:55:52
    1. Re: [BOSTON] Need help with a farmer's market location
    2. In a message dated 1/5/02 9:49:50 AM Eastern Standard Time, dcrichardson@mindspring.com writes: > I tried to send a map of the area but yahoo bounced it so try this > web site > > > http://www.mapquest.com/ > and enter the location. > i.e. > > Quincy market > boston > ma > haymarket square all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

    01/05/2002 03:37:41
    1. [BOSTON] 1950 BARYHOLS Roslindale
    2. Sharon Sergeant
    3. FYI info from postcard - Postcard aerial view of Niagra Falls - American Falls over Ny, Goat Island, Horseshoe Falls, Canadian shore, Ontario - ; postmarked Aug 8 1950, Niagra Falls to Mr & Mrs Jacob Baryhols, 8 Metropolitan Terrace, Roslindale, Mass "Wednesday evening Dear Grams and Dad, sitting in Betsey in Niagra Falls, We are waiting for the lights to shine upon the falls. This afternoon, the weather was pretty good, although quite foggy this morning. Had good birding along the Niagra river. Just had some of the pears we had with us. ... the soup sunday evening was deliicious ... Doing good chewing bones and playing with Duby? So lazy now" Happy Hunting Sharon http://www.GenealogyFair.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

    01/05/2002 12:06:38
    1. Re: [BOSTON] re - Scarpitti/Scarpitto
    2. Sharon Sergeant
    3. Hi Your guy could have come back and forth more than you realize! You can find the microfilm info at Joe Beine's site - http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/nylists1820.html Happy Hunting Sharon http://www.GenealogyFair.com --- Carrie Watts <carybear_65@yahoo.com> wrote: > Hi Sharon, Thanks for the info. It could very > possibly be my ggf. His b-day is Dec 23, 1863 so at > least the age matches. I have always been told that > he was born in Roccasicura, Molise, Italy, however I > do know that there are some Scarpitti's from Carovilli > and have corresponded with a couple of people > researching those Scarpitti's. I was also told that > he came over in 1895, but that could be wrong. The > towns of Carovilli and Roccasicura are pretty close so > this is worth checking into. Does LDS have this film > do you know? I'll have to order it. Thanks so much > for the info!! It's greatly appreciated. Carrie > > --- Sharon Sergeant <info@genealogyfair.com> wrote: > > Hi > > > > The Italians to America 1880-1893 has the following > > - Antonio Scarpitti > > age 27, occupation farmer, arrived NY Dec 14, 1891 > > on ship Hindoustan > > from Naples, residence Carovilli which is also in > > Molise. The manifest > > id is 81987, so you ought to be able to get the film > > for that. > > > > "Portrait of an Italian American Neighborhood: the > > North End of Boston" > > - describes farmer's market as being on the corner > > of North and South > > Market Street, where all the waterfront terminals > > were nearby ... the > > custom house was there ..." There is an over head > > picture of the > > farmer's wagons there in 1900. > > > > The open air markets were still really lively until > > they ripped that > > area apart with rennovations over the last few > > decades. > > > > Happy Hunting, > > Sharon > > http://www.GenealogyFair.com > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > > > > > ==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== > > Boston Historical Society: > > http://www.bostonhistory.org > > > > ============================== > > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > > online genealogy records, go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

    01/05/2002 05:29:57
    1. Re: [BOSTON] re - Scarpitti/Scarpitto
    2. Carrie Watts
    3. Hi Sharon, Thanks for the info. It could very possibly be my ggf. His b-day is Dec 23, 1863 so at least the age matches. I have always been told that he was born in Roccasicura, Molise, Italy, however I do know that there are some Scarpitti's from Carovilli and have corresponded with a couple of people researching those Scarpitti's. I was also told that he came over in 1895, but that could be wrong. The towns of Carovilli and Roccasicura are pretty close so this is worth checking into. Does LDS have this film do you know? I'll have to order it. Thanks so much for the info!! It's greatly appreciated. Carrie --- Sharon Sergeant <info@genealogyfair.com> wrote: > Hi > > The Italians to America 1880-1893 has the following > - Antonio Scarpitti > age 27, occupation farmer, arrived NY Dec 14, 1891 > on ship Hindoustan > from Naples, residence Carovilli which is also in > Molise. The manifest > id is 81987, so you ought to be able to get the film > for that. > > "Portrait of an Italian American Neighborhood: the > North End of Boston" > - describes farmer's market as being on the corner > of North and South > Market Street, where all the waterfront terminals > were nearby ... the > custom house was there ..." There is an over head > picture of the > farmer's wagons there in 1900. > > The open air markets were still really lively until > they ripped that > area apart with rennovations over the last few > decades. > > Happy Hunting, > Sharon > http://www.GenealogyFair.com > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! > http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ > > > ==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== > Boston Historical Society: > http://www.bostonhistory.org > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion > online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

    01/05/2002 04:54:25
    1. Re: [BOSTON] Need help with a farmer's market location
    2. Dave and Emma Richardson -
    3. I tried to send a map of the area but yahoo bounced it so try this web site http://www.mapquest.com/ and enter the location. i.e. Quincy market boston ma -- See my surname list at: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/surnames.htm The Richardson Memorial CD-Rom at http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/cd.htm Home page: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/ Most useful web sites: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/useful_sites.htm David C. and Emma J. Richardson 130 Gingercake Ct. Fayetteville GA 30214-7600 Emma's E-mail ejrichardson@mindspring.com

    01/05/2002 02:49:31
    1. [BOSTON] re - Scarpitti/Scarpitto
    2. Sharon Sergeant
    3. Hi The Italians to America 1880-1893 has the following - Antonio Scarpitti age 27, occupation farmer, arrived NY Dec 14, 1891 on ship Hindoustan from Naples, residence Carovilli which is also in Molise. The manifest id is 81987, so you ought to be able to get the film for that. "Portrait of an Italian American Neighborhood: the North End of Boston" - describes farmer's market as being on the corner of North and South Market Street, where all the waterfront terminals were nearby ... the custom house was there ..." There is an over head picture of the farmer's wagons there in 1900. The open air markets were still really lively until they ripped that area apart with rennovations over the last few decades. Happy Hunting, Sharon http://www.GenealogyFair.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/

    01/05/2002 02:04:18