In a message dated 8/2/02 8:06:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cadyharriet@juno.com writes: > Anyone have information on the Irish genealogy of DINEEN/ > Harriet in NH dinnen dinehy dennin dinnin denan dinan denning denney dennie denninge dennig dunn dunning dinning denune dinan denon ect are all he same names i am doing most of them they base in chelsea ma [caatholic]and glocester[protestant] with some pockets in other places if you have catholic try the chelsea list i am the owner i think you already are but for others try it jim all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

Anyone have information on the Irish genealogy of DINEEN/ Harriet in NH

In a message dated 8/2/02 2:54:27 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Farns10th@aol.com writes: > Packard's Corner - History - Boston area..w/1930s St. Directory names as a retired t driver on the green line thats still the name we used for it jim all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

In 1908 chelsea was probably on of the top towns for income, a bustling place full of imagrants as usual and growng industry and the like. Then 1909 came and the largest fire in any american city and most expensive happened. It was this event that caused some migrations . Many blamed the immigrant jewish population for the fire. That was the cause of the massive jewish population to move to brookline brighton. Also many irish and yankees left to the same area to avoid the polish-italian influx . The irish more to the eastern part of brookline. I grew up in this area in my teen years and there is no place you can think of with so many small conclaves of different types of people. Twas a nice place to be young and drunk jim OH YEAH!! chelsea is today what it was in 1810 when my irish ancestors came an tried to find a safe place to live,way before the irish were accepted all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

Packard's Corner - History - Boston area..w/1930s St. Directory names <A HREF="http://www.bahistory.org/PackCornHist.html">Packard's Corner History </A>

Active as an architect from the 1890s until the 1930s, Blackall designed the 1894 Winthrop Building on Washington Street, Boston, first steel frame "skyscraper" in Boston. http://www.bahistory.org/AllstonHgtHist.html

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Anyone own this? Boston (Mass.) A memorial of the American patriots who fell at the Battle of Bunker Hill, June 17, 1775. With an account of the dedication of memorial tablets on Winthrop Square, Charlestown, June 17, 1889, and an appendix... Boston, Printed by order of the City Council, 1889.

Subject: The Last Leaf - by Oliver Wendell Holmes ~ Major Thomas Melville ~ A Participant in the Boston Tea Party The Last Leaf The poem was suggested by the sight of a figure well known to Bostonians in 1831/1832 - that of Major Thomas Melville, 'the last of the cocked hats,' as he was sometimes called. The Major had been a personable young man, very evidently, and retained evidence of it in the monumental pomp of age - which had something imposing and something odd about it for youthful eyes like mine. He was often pointed at as one of the "Indians" of the famous 'Boston Tea-Party' of 1774. His aspect among the crowds of a later generation reminded me of a withered leaf which has held to its stem through the storms of autumn and winter, and finds itself still clinging to its bough while the new growths of spring are bursting their buds and spreading their foliage all around it. I make this explanation for the benefit of those who have been puzzled by the lines, 'the last leaf upon the tree in the spring.' - Oliver Wendell Holmes. The Last Leaf I saw him once before As he passed by the door, And again The pavement stones resound, As he totters o'er the ground, With his cane. They say that in his prime, Ere the pruning-knife of Time Cut him down, Not a better man was found By the Crier on his round Through the town. But now he walks the streets And he looks at all he meets Sad and wan, And he shakes his feeble head, That it seems as if he said, "They are gone." The mossy marbles rest On the lips that he has prest In their bloom, And the names he loved to hear Have been carved for many a year On the tomb. My grandmamma has said Poor old lady - she is dead Long ago - That he had a Roman nose, And his cheek was like a rose In the snow. But now his nose is thin, And it rests upon his chin Like a staff, And a crook is in his back, And a melancholy crack In his laugh. I know it is a sin For me to sit and grin At him there; but the old three-cornered hat, And the breeches, and all that, Are so queer! And if I should live to be The last leaf upon the tree In the spring, Let them smile, as I do now, At the old forsaken bough Where I cling. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Major Thomas Melville, early revolutinary and Mason, died in 1832 and is buried in Copp's Hill Burying Grounds See also: http://www.wells1.com/coppshill/tea_list.htm Materials gathered/transcribed by Janice Farnsworth

I just received in my mail today from Senator Pam Resor. Her "aides called the Committee on Gov Regulations and was informed that they are revising some of the language that relates to the issues raised. They suggested that in a few days you can call .... and they can provide you with the bill with the new language. Their feeling is that the changes will allow you the same access as you have had before while still guaranteeing the security that the committee has been trying to ensure" -- --- Ginny Chung <gchung@mindspring.com> http://www.mindspring.com/~gchung/tree.htm - Main page http://www.mindspring.com/~gchung/CemeteryMain.html - Mass Cemetery Transcriptions http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~gchung/brochterbeck/Main.htm - Brochterbeck Germany ==============================================

Brighton / BOSTON / Suffolk. Brighton is a section of Boston. For more information see my "Most useful web sites" page below. This was from Unincorporated and Unofficial Names of Massachusetts Communities http://www.state.ma.us/sec/cis/cisuno/unoidx.htm dcr MikenHelene wrote: > Can someone please tell me where the address 65 Bennett Street is located, > or would have been located in the mid 1920's? > > I have the city as Boston, but I just wanted to make sure. Also can someone > please tell me what County this would be located in? > > The same people that lived at this address are buried in Evergreen Cemetery, > located in Brighton. Is this close by? Can someone tell me what count > Evergreen Cemetery is located in? The address is 2060 Commonweath Ave, > Brighton MA > > Thank you so much for any help you can give me > > Helene > http://www.oldcitydirectory.com - Home of Old City Directories Preserved on > CD > Don't forget our FREE databases - Early NYC Births, Census Lookups, Cemetery > Photo Projects, Genealogy Lost and Found, Message Boards and MORE! > > ==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== > Visiting Boston? > http://www.bostonusa.com/ > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 -- See my surname list at: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/surnames.htm The Richardson Memorial CD-Rom at http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/cd.htm Home page: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/ Most useful web sites: http://www.mindspring.com/~dcrichardson/useful_sites.htm David C. and Emma J. Richardson 130 Gingercake Ct. Fayetteville GA 30214-7600 Emma's E-mail ejrichardson@mindspring.com

There's a Bennett Street in the Directory <A HREF="http://www.distantcousin.com/Directories/MA/1800/Boston/A.html">1800 City Directory for Boston, Massachusetts -</A>

Can someone please tell me where the address 65 Bennett Street is located, or would have been located in the mid 1920's? I have the city as Boston, but I just wanted to make sure. Also can someone please tell me what County this would be located in? The same people that lived at this address are buried in Evergreen Cemetery, located in Brighton. Is this close by? Can someone tell me what count Evergreen Cemetery is located in? The address is 2060 Commonweath Ave, Brighton MA Thank you so much for any help you can give me Helene http://www.oldcitydirectory.com - Home of Old City Directories Preserved on CD Don't forget our FREE databases - Early NYC Births, Census Lookups, Cemetery Photo Projects, Genealogy Lost and Found, Message Boards and MORE!

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i dont know if you will remmeber those who were here when i posted this. some byu scientists are doing a project where they take people with four generations of their trees complete and do the dna tests to map genetic markers. they will be able to tell if someone spent time in chelsea ma. ,longford ireland ,halifax, or other places. the goal is to have people who dont know know from dna where they come from. they showed me a map of the world with dots everywhere. the one place with no dots was africa.so they need to go to england and africa because our blacks cant do four generations. when they do they will be able to tell black where in africa they cam from and what tribes. amausing, i am proud tobe part of this great project they emailed me for some missing info this is what progress they have made <<Within the past few months, we took samples in the U.K. and in Chile and right now, we have people down in South America collecting samples. If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to contact us again. Thanks>> jim all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

that would put mall from eustice running parrallel with dudly thru the boston medical center between harrison and albany probably gone now maybe jim thanks In a message dated 7/26/02 4:58:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CARADOC28@aol.com writes: > 16 Gertros St., Boston, MA > anyone know > Jim, from the Record of streets, in Boston~~~1910 GERTROSE St., Rox., 1909; from 45 Webber street to 48 Mall street; then the name of Daniel streed to Gertrose street in 1909 Since I'm not familiar with either Webber or Mall streests I looked them up to. * Webber street, Rox. 1835 ; from 1012 Harrison avenue to 917 Albany street, accepted and named Webber street 1835 *Mall street, Rox., 1825; from 36 Eustis street to 11 Dearborn street; Mall-street Place. Rox., from Mall street to Webber street/ now Douglass Avenue Guess this would put them smack in the center of Roxrury....Dudley Street is in that area, too. Churches? St. Joseph's if RC and/or St. Patrick's. Others can probably add to the various other denominations and RC churches too. Janice Boston all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

In a message dated 7/26/02 4:58:41 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CARADOC28@aol.com writes: > 16 Gertros St., Boston, MA > anyone know > jim Jim, from the Record of streets, in Boston~~~1910 GERTROSE St., Rox., 1909; from 45 Webber street to 48 Mall street; then the name of Daniel streed to Gertrose street in 1909 Since I'm not familiar with either Webber or Mall streests I looked them up to. * Webber street, Rox. 1835 ; from 1012 Harrison avenue to 917 Albany street, accepted and named Webber street 1835 *Mall street, Rox., 1825; from 36 Eustis street to 11 Dearborn street; Mall-street Place. Rox., from Mall street to Webber street/ now Douglass Avenue Guess this would put them smack in the center of Roxrury....Dudley Street is in that area, too. Churches? St. Joseph's if RC and/or St. Patrick's. Others can probably add to the various other denominations and RC churches too. Janice Boston

16 Gertros St., Boston, MA anyone know jim all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan

Hello, I am writing to you as both a representative of the family history research community, and as a professional in the quality assurance and performance of security in computer software and networks for both military and commercial systems. H5158 proponents are still misleading the public on the contents of the bill. I have gotten reports that indicate many MA House Representatives have not fully analyzed this bill. If your representative has not given you all 36 pages of the H5158 text, you are missing the full context - and perhaps being mislead into the notion that this bill increases access to Public Records. It does not. A carefully structured and brief "fact sheet" response does not address the full import. Current MA law gives EVERYONE access to all Public Records. All Vital Records (birth, marriage and death) are Public Records - except those protected by confidentiality clauses for items like illegitimate and still born births. Today's genealogists and family members are simply employing the access rights for ALL Public Records - in person or in writing or over the phone or through email and fax or other normal communications. Any "fact sheet" response or short excerpts from the bill do not take into account the sequence of the clauses, subclauses and the changes in the current law. H5158 is a labrynthe of clause reference dependencies where custodians are given discretion over public access to vitals ( no longer Public Records) without proper training or compensation for this new security role. Surcharges will be added to the records fees to pay for computerization, but are insufficient for the scope of changes required throughout the Commonwealth. H5158 has made Social Security number use, correlation of births and deaths and validation of vitals for the MA Department of Motor Vehicles, University of Massachusetts, firearms records, deadbeat parents and other business use into a tail wagging a very large and complex domestic animal! The budgetary impact on public and private systems would create havoc and simultaneously erase the wise foundations of a democracy laid by the first governments of Massachusetts currently maintained in open Public Records preservation and access. Under current law, town clerks and other municipal employees, as custodians of Public Records, only have to learn about a handful of confidentiality exclusions. Even so, there are ongoing reports in the news and complaints to Secretary Galvin's office about the well-intentioned, but unlawful, prevention of public access to Public Records by municipal employees. With H5158, these custodians will be come overburdened with complex security and judgement issues - for which they are not trained, nor compensated. Instead of the regular, but largely informal, current reporting of instances of public access being denied, both towns and the state will be subject to formal actions for failure to provide the proper access. H5158 does not provide either proper administrative procedures or funding. With the new law proposal of H5158, the post 1910/1950 vital records are never going to be Public Records again. Only limited access will be given to parties who make requests and prove their direct (2 generation only) IN WRITING to the person of record or legal administrators and property rights etc - subject to the discretion of the custodians - FOREVER. Your great grandchildren will never be able to access your records in the future unless, perhaps you write out your permission and file it in a safe place. Under H5158, genealogists may ONLY have limited records access IF a first-degree (individual, grandparent, parent, child, spouse, sibling) gives written permission - no cousin, aunt/uncle or other relative research if you can't contact a living first degree relative. Collateral family information for family health problems is blocked! The Massachusetts Genealogical Council (MGC) is unalterably opposed to the Public Records closing in H5158 and continues to support the MA Senate bill S2302 http://www.state.ma.us/legis/bills/st02302.htm Other opponents to H5158 include the MA Office of the Secretary of State http://www.state.ma.us/sec/ , NEHGS http://www.newenglandancestors.org/about/contact/ and the MA Newspaper Publisher's Association (70 Washington St., Salem, MA 01970 phone 978-465-7539 or E-Mail: plantejr@seacoast.com ). The MA Association of Town Clerks favors the bill! There has been an ongoing issue with MA town clerks and other municipal record custodians allowing the access to Public Records - see this week's Globe article about Framingham MA for the well-intentioned, but misguided beliefs under current law of full Public Record access http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/203/west/Using_stealth_consultant_rates_town_services+.shtml A Globe special report in April 2001 (referenced in above article) is available from the Boston Globe archives for a fee. The search excerpt begins as follows - "ACCESS DENIED Published on April 8, 2001. ... PUBLIC RECORDS ARE TREATED LIKE PRIVATE PROPERTY BY MANY LOCAL OFFICIALS, A SURVEY FINDS Many municipal executives said their administrations' failure to comply with the requests during the Globe's survey were aberrations or illustrated their staff's unfamiliarity with the law. "There are a lot of laws that are constantly changing, and yet we are expected to keep up on them," said Michael Sullivan, Medfield's town administrator. "I would rather have my staff err on the side of caution than hand out something we ..." http://boston.com/globe/search/ If, municipal employees do not understand current law for all PUBLIC RECORDS - where there are very few restrictions - you can be sure that the process of having to prove who you are (if you qualify for the H5158 short list) to access records that are no longer Public Records will not be an easy matter! Numerous studies (publicized long before September 11, 2001) show that Identity fraud is conducted largely by folks who are not likely to do real research work in Public Records offices. They only need to go through trash! These studies show that it is cheaper for the credit industry to cover fraud costs, than to do fact checking on applications and/or restrict their "easy credit" web. The credit card industry fills this country's trash bins with millions of offers each day - containing identifying info - because so many people just throw this junk mail away. The largest groups of Identity fraud thieves are - persons connected with the individual (often direct family members, as they have ready access and knowledge), persons who steal trash or wallets or mail or break into homes (where they can get a large amount of identifying information easily), persons who scour obituaries and graveyards or make fraudulent phone calls to the individuals, those who steal records from businesses and electronic schemes. The laws in "36 other states" that restrict vital records access vary widely in their restrictions - NONE remove recent vital records and their indices from the PUBLIC RECORDS forever, as H5158 does. Those states that do have "privacy periods", also have varying types of special features to aid researchers. CT does NOT require genealogists to have written permission from the individual of record. NY provides record certificates marked "for genealogical purposes" only. NH has special remedies for medical research. H5158 is a poorly written bill that ignores the many years of work and discussions between many groups about the pragmatic and historical management issues of Public Records. The patchwork modifications to the previous H132 bill are inconsistent and fraught with problems. Do not be mislead. Get a copy of the entire bill and talk to your representative about the scope for all of the H5158 clauses. Contact the national FGS/NGS Records Preservation and Access Committee for further information on issues outside of Massachusetts as well http://www.fgs.org/fgs-records.htm Further updates will be made available at http://massgencouncil.home.attbi.com/index.htm Sharon Sergeant MGC Program Director http://massgencouncil.home.attbi.com/index.htm __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com

WOW AS I LOOKED THRU MY OLD NOTES LOOK WHAT I SAW Patrick JamesDENNING @IRELAND COAL DEALER & Mary@IRELAND NOW patrick is Year child Husband Wife 1793/7 Denning, Patrick James M. Farrell************* ok thats what i see theni look again at this MARY CARROLL DENNEY1791@IRELAND19 Jun 1861@70, DISEASE OF HEART,17 WILLIAMS ST.BOSTON MA.- dau of JohnCARROLL@IRELAND &Margaret@IRELAND well? carroll is a maiden name not middle and denney is a form of denning could someone with 1850 or 60 cencus check out 17 williams in boston and chelsea for family jim all denning-dever-cogan in mass-some malone-carroll-mcguire-doherty-mcneil-piscopo-mazzola-heslin-martini-feddis-fa rley-dennen-dinan-fredricks- ____________________________________ "we go to school to learn the words of fools" bob dylan