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Hello, I'd like to ask if children in "Homes" (orphanages, asylums, etc.) were listed in Census forms in 1900 and 1910.. My grandmother was "a foundling" in Boston, MA, in Feb. 1889. She might have been taken to the "home" of Mrs. Lucy PARKER in Medford, who reportedly took in "unwed mothers and their infants" at that time. (Her Adoptive mother seems to have talked to the girl about her earlier years, and she mentioned, "Mrs. Parker's Baby Farm.") In Mar. 1892, she was adopted. In Apr. 1899, her Adoptive mother died, and her Adoptive father was probably taken to Tewksbury State Hospital. The family had left Melrose, MA, during 1899, and that was the end of my grandmother's schooling. (left school after 4th grade) My grandmother thought that she had been taken to "a Home" on D Street in South Boston first. Someone has responded and said that there was an Infant Asylum there on nearby Dorchester Street. (site of old Carney Hospital). My grandmother would have been 11 years old, would she have shown up as a "resident" ("boarder") in that "home" on the 1900 Census? We do not know how old she was when she went to live in "The Temporary Home for Women and Children" on Chardon Street in Downtown Boston. One guess is that it was when she was at least 14 years old, or 15 or 16. This would have been around 1905. She probably remained living there until she was 18 years old. Or, if she remained living there until she was 20 years old, she might have been listed as a "resident" of the building at 41 Chardon Street in Downtown Boston in the 1910 Census. (The current location of that building would be New Chardon Street a few streets away from the "Government Center.") By the way, one of the "used books" I purchased from eBay during the winter, was a book, "BOSTON, a Topographical History," by Whitehill. I haven't had time to read it yet, but I certainly have looked at all the pictures and illustrations. :o) ... I recommend the book to anyone who also has a fascination about .. the Boston.. which the Pilgrams and Puritans found in the 1600's .. and the Boston .. which we know now! (Amazing transformation!) Enjoy the rest of your week! Betty (near Lowell, MA) "There are two lasting bequests we can give our children; one is roots, the other is wings." Hodding Carter, Jr.

St. Mary's is still St. Mary's. 95 Cushing St., Dorchester, MA. Eileen Velez Pat wrote: >One possibility is St. Mary's Infant Asylum ... which was founded in the >late 1800s .. its original location was the "old" Carney Hospital in South >Boston ... Dorchester Street near D Street. Some years later, St. Mary's >moved a short distance away to be closeby St. Margaret's Hospital, which was >a maternity hospital ... probably until the late 1980s .. > >There is today a Woman's and Infants Center at the Dorchester location ... >site of St. Mary's. >While St. Marys was often referred to as a home for unwed mothers, most >babies/children in need of care were placed there. > >Pat >-----Original Message----- >From: BBFFRRPP [mailto:bbffrrpp@attbi.com] >Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:46 AM >To: BOSTON-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [BOSTON] Orphanages in South Boston .. 1900 .. (CLARK, DEXTER, >YOUNG) > > > >==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== >Visiting Boston? >http://www.bostonusa.com/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

One possibility is St. Mary's Infant Asylum ... which was founded in the late 1800s .. its original location was the "old" Carney Hospital in South Boston ... Dorchester Street near D Street. Some years later, St. Mary's moved a short distance away to be closeby St. Margaret's Hospital, which was a maternity hospital ... probably until the late 1980s .. There is today a Woman's and Infants Center at the Dorchester location ... site of St. Mary's. While St. Marys was often referred to as a home for unwed mothers, most babies/children in need of care were placed there. Pat -----Original Message----- From: BBFFRRPP [mailto:bbffrrpp@attbi.com] Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 7:46 AM To: BOSTON-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [BOSTON] Orphanages in South Boston .. 1900 .. (CLARK, DEXTER, YOUNG)

Does anyone have access to death records for Boston for the time-frame of 1929-1930? I'm looking for a death date for William J. Graham. He was born about 1885 in Canada/Nova Scotia. I would appreciate any help to determine when he died. Thank you kindly. Jan

Hello, I was wondering if anyone knew which "Homes," orphanages, "asylums," etc. were available in South Boston around 1899 or 1900. When my grandmother lost both of her Adoptive parents* in 1899, she believes she was "taken to" a "Home" or some type of "orphanage" on ... D Street in South Boston. She would have been Age 11 .. and that leads me to another question. When she was "a foundling" in Boston or Greater Boston on .. Feb. 1st, 1889, she became "a Ward of the State" at Age 3 months. She was Adopted in Melrose, MA, in Mar. 1892. When she was "orphaned" again in the spring of 1899, would she have become "a Ward of the State" again? Or, was Age 11-12 .. one of those "in between ages" for "children" ?? Thanks to my "cousin" in CT and a "friend" in ME, I have found out a whole lot more about the Adoptive parents .. John and Mary (CLARK) DEXTER .. The most important fact being that John Dexter did not "disappear into thin air" in 1899. It seems that he "disappeared into Tewksbury State Hospital" in 1899. He died there in 1905 and was buried on the property. ("Right under my nose") This is very strange as when Mrs. Mary "Molly" Dexter died in Melrose, MA, in Apr. 1899, her "remains" were returned to Killingly, CT, for burial there. .. I have also found out that "Molly's" father, James CLARK, was a Mariner, and "went out to sea" in 1844 when she was about 7 years old. He was never seen again, but not because he was "lost at sea," he "deserted" in Sydney, Australia. ..I am now beginning to think that my grandmother, Adopted name, Mary Anna Clark DEXTER, did not go to live in "The Temporary Home for Women and Children" at 41 Chardon Street in Boston until 1905 (coinciding with the death of her Adoptive father) (OR, coinciding with her reaching the age of 16....) So, she might have only lived at "The Chardon Street Home" from 1905 to 1909/1910. (aka "the HAUSER Sisters' Home) *All along it was "a guess" of my grandmother's children and grandchildren that she was the grandchild of John and Mary (CLARK) DEXTER. Brand-new information coming to light .. shows that she might have been "a change of life baby" .. of Mrs. Dexter. The only child of John and "Molly" DEXTER who lived to adulthood was their daughter, Clara DEXTER, who was born in Killingly, CT, in 1857. She would have been 31 years older than her Adoptive sister, born in 1889. We found out that a grandson of Mrs. Clara (DEXTER) YOUNG wrote a "family history booklet" about his YOUNG family in the 1980's. Of course, the DEXTER family of Killingly, CT, was mentioned. But, there was absolutely no mention at all .. of my grandmother. Winthrop YOUNG was the author, and his father, Earl YOUNG, was the only child of Abner and Clara YOUNG, and Earl would have been the nephew of my grandmother, and he would have been .. 7 years older than she was. ... This YOUNG family reportedly .. KNEW .. about my grandmother, but she was not "talked about." Betty (near Lowell, MA) P.S. My cousin in CT and I have finally remembered to compare family photographs, and we have discovered that her grandmother and my grandmother look enough alike to have been sisters or first-cousins. The "key" to their possible relationship is through: Mrs. Rhoda (MANCHESTER) (LAVARE) CLARK who lived her entire life in Westport, MA. Both women would have technically .. been .. grandchildren of Rhoda (if our "guesses" are correct). Karen in CT is trying to "prove" that Rhoda's parents were Gilbert MANCHESTER and Mary TOMPKINS from Little Compton, RI, and thus .. "Mayflower descendants." "There are two lasting bequests we can give our children; one is roots, the other is wings." Hodding Carter, Jr.

My father was 10 when his mother died in 1915. The state of Massachusetts made my grandfather split the children between relatives. The common thought at that time was that a father was not capable of raising young children alone, especially daughters. The day after grandmas' funeral two state workers showed up without notice to "help" grandpa make suitable arrangements. The eldest daughter (age 17) was allowed to stay and maintain her father's house. -----Original Message----- From: E.Sharp <bellemarco@hotmail.com> To: BOSTON-L@rootsweb.com <BOSTON-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:26 AM Subject: [BOSTON] Wayward Children >My mom and 3 of her sisters were sent to an orphanage in MA when their >mother died (1913) and their father thought he was unable to care for them - >he was not poor - not rich, but certainly not poor. He tried to find >someone in home to care for the girls but for some reason decided on the >orphanage. My mom was 11 at the time and the oldest. My grandfather >visited them and brought them home on Sunday to visit with their youngest >sister who was adopted by an aunt who was childless (lucky girl). I sent >for their records which only showed the dates they went in and came out 3 >years later and returned to live with their dad until they married. I guess >there were many reasons children were sent to orphanages. > >"E" > > >==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== >Boston's Freedom Trail: >http://www.ci.boston.ma.us/freedomtrail/bostoncommon.asp > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 >

In a message dated 1/28/03 11:42:36 PM Eastern Standard Time, emvelez@attbi.com writes: > This book tells me that the "Out-Door Poor" were poor > >people who were living at home .. and needed assistance while still living > >in their homes. I haven't figured this out yet .. in my grandmother's > >situation, but it could provide a clue to her mystery. > > > This for Betty, the original poster of this very informative book. The above quote most likely means..... l. family being helped was NOT HOMELESS and did not need to go to he local shelter 2. family was in need of other services tho, such as food, fuel, medicine, etc. I am familiar with similar situation in 19c Ireland where they had workhouses for homeless....but if a person had a 'hut' to live in they were refused any other services, even a cup of broth..... Janice

My mom and 3 of her sisters were sent to an orphanage in MA when their mother died (1913) and their father thought he was unable to care for them - he was not poor - not rich, but certainly not poor. He tried to find someone in home to care for the girls but for some reason decided on the orphanage. My mom was 11 at the time and the oldest. My grandfather visited them and brought them home on Sunday to visit with their youngest sister who was adopted by an aunt who was childless (lucky girl). I sent for their records which only showed the dates they went in and came out 3 years later and returned to live with their dad until they married. I guess there were many reasons children were sent to orphanages. "E"

Thanks for posting this, I have pre-ordered it on half.com. I am a DSS social worker in Weymouth and my mom was a DPW/DSS social worker in Boston in the 50's. Still dealing with wayward children but they are better treated now, God willing! Eileen Velez, Hyde Park, MA BBFFRRPP wrote: >Hello, > >Because my grandmother was reportedly "a foundling" on the streets of Boston >in 1889 and was reportedly "in State care" until her adoption in 1892, and >then went back into "State care" in 1899,.. I have decided to learn more >about .."children without parents" in MA in that time period. > >One of the books on the subject which I found in my local Library was Peter >Holloran's book, "Boston's Wayward Children" ("Social Services for Homeless >Children, 1830-1930"). It seems to be a 1989 book published in Boston, >MA. > >I have only read 2 chapters so far, and do not have time to offer a review >of the book. But, I'd like to recommend it for anyone wanting to know how >"homeless children" were "dealt with" .. from .. not as the sub-title >suggests .. but from 1630 to 1930. ("documentary" or "thesis" on the >subject) In the 1600's, it was the responsibility of every family >within a Town to take care of "people in need" (young or old or sick or >disabled). This went into the 1700's. But, after the Revolutionary War, >and especially when people started "heading West," it was discovered that >the "old system" (based on English ways of doing things) was no longer >working. But, it took until 1830 .. for "organized Homes" to come into >being. > >But, when "organized Homes" for "wayward children" were being operated, they >were not always .. run smoothly or run well, and "stuff happened." At one >point they decided that girls should not be in the same Homes with boys. >>From book: "Despite some efforts to safeguard their young charges, the BFA >had some problems with "immoral" and "deranged" girls. They were sent >aaway in disgrace to have their bastard babies at the State Infirmary in >Tewksbury or committed to the State Lunatic Asylum in Worcester." > >Reading this book is not easy. To think of what children went through .. >right here in Boston .. is not easy to stomach. > >In regards to my grandmother, this book offered me the definition of "the >Out-Door Poor." In 1892, the MA "Overseers of the Poor" .. Dept. of the >Out-Door Poor .. gave permission for 3-year-old Mary Anna Clark DEXTER to be >adopted. ... This book tells me that the "Out-Door Poor" were poor >people who were living at home .. and needed assistance while still living >in their homes. I haven't figured this out yet .. in my grandmother's >situation, but it could provide a clue to her mystery. > >Have a good day. Keep WARM. And, if you have elderly friends, >neighbors, or family-members, please check to see whether they are >maintaining their homes at a temperature over 65 or 70 degrees. And, >please, if babies or toddlers are brought outside .. please cover their >faces with a scarf. I saw a woman over the weekend with a year-old baby >in a back-pack on her back while she was jogging. The baby was in a >snow-suit but his or her face was not covered at all. :o( > >Betty (near Lowell, MA) > > >"There are two lasting bequests we can give our children; >one is roots, the other is wings." > >Hodding Carter, Jr. > > > >==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== >Visit Boston's Historic Neighborhoods: >http://www.ci.boston.ma.us/neighborhoods/ > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

I read with interest the recent reference to the Tewksbury Nursing Home. My husband's grandmother was deposited there in the early 1900s by her mother. She was not a waif . Her mother was a widow.They reunited in her mother's in later life. I wonder if anyone remembers that Ann Sullivan, tutor to our famous Helen Keller, was raised there. Just an FYI from a Kenney who's ancestry goes way back to Boston & Braintree, MA. EKG

Hello, Because my grandmother was reportedly "a foundling" on the streets of Boston in 1889 and was reportedly "in State care" until her adoption in 1892, and then went back into "State care" in 1899,.. I have decided to learn more about .."children without parents" in MA in that time period. One of the books on the subject which I found in my local Library was Peter Holloran's book, "Boston's Wayward Children" ("Social Services for Homeless Children, 1830-1930"). It seems to be a 1989 book published in Boston, MA. I have only read 2 chapters so far, and do not have time to offer a review of the book. But, I'd like to recommend it for anyone wanting to know how "homeless children" were "dealt with" .. from .. not as the sub-title suggests .. but from 1630 to 1930. ("documentary" or "thesis" on the subject) In the 1600's, it was the responsibility of every family within a Town to take care of "people in need" (young or old or sick or disabled). This went into the 1700's. But, after the Revolutionary War, and especially when people started "heading West," it was discovered that the "old system" (based on English ways of doing things) was no longer working. But, it took until 1830 .. for "organized Homes" to come into being. But, when "organized Homes" for "wayward children" were being operated, they were not always .. run smoothly or run well, and "stuff happened." At one point they decided that girls should not be in the same Homes with boys. >From book: "Despite some efforts to safeguard their young charges, the BFA had some problems with "immoral" and "deranged" girls. They were sent aaway in disgrace to have their bastard babies at the State Infirmary in Tewksbury or committed to the State Lunatic Asylum in Worcester." Reading this book is not easy. To think of what children went through .. right here in Boston .. is not easy to stomach. In regards to my grandmother, this book offered me the definition of "the Out-Door Poor." In 1892, the MA "Overseers of the Poor" .. Dept. of the Out-Door Poor .. gave permission for 3-year-old Mary Anna Clark DEXTER to be adopted. ... This book tells me that the "Out-Door Poor" were poor people who were living at home .. and needed assistance while still living in their homes. I haven't figured this out yet .. in my grandmother's situation, but it could provide a clue to her mystery. Have a good day. Keep WARM. And, if you have elderly friends, neighbors, or family-members, please check to see whether they are maintaining their homes at a temperature over 65 or 70 degrees. And, please, if babies or toddlers are brought outside .. please cover their faces with a scarf. I saw a woman over the weekend with a year-old baby in a back-pack on her back while she was jogging. The baby was in a snow-suit but his or her face was not covered at all. :o( Betty (near Lowell, MA) "There are two lasting bequests we can give our children; one is roots, the other is wings." Hodding Carter, Jr.

Now I know what county Boston is in. I tried using RootsWeb and got two different answers. Mark

Suffolk KRAM95@aol.com wrote: >What county is Boston in? > >Mark > > >==== BOSTON Mailing List ==== >Boston Historical Society: >http://www.bostonhistory.org > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > > >

Boston is in SUFFOLK COUNTY Bob

What county is Boston in? Mark

Hello researchers, I am wondering if the cemeteries in and around Boston have been 'read'. I am looking for the burial place (cemetery) for John H. CONANT b.April 3, 1823 NH d,December 29, 1876 ?? MA His Wife: Frances('Fanny')[Crowell] CONANT b.April 28, 1831 NH d. ??? ?? MA Thank you for any assistance you may be able to provide. With MANY WARM BLESSINGS!! Jacque Martindale COOOOLD OHio

In a message dated 1/23/03 12:03:09 AM Eastern Standard Time, Ruthie627@aol.com writes: > I'm specifically looking for 12 > Montgomery Place and want to find where the address would be located today. > > Thanks in advance! > > Ruth > Hi Ruth, my book, 1910 Record of Streets lists Montgomery Place: Boston; from Tremont Street, east to Governor's alley [now Province street] ; laid out from Tremont street to Chapman place extended, and named Bosworth street, May 14, 1883; remainder of street to Province street not included in or for laying out. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Governor's alley became Province Street, 1833 Province St. Boston, from 38 School street to 29 Bromfield street. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chapman place, Boston, 1841 from 54 School street to 6 Bosworth street; called Cook's court, 1733......reported to have been a public highway for many years, Dec.24, 1846; extended to Montgomery place (now Bosworth street], Dec. 22, 1882 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ruthie, these are in the Washington Street and Tremont Street area of today. Chapman, Bosworth, School, Bromfield are still streets in Boston {I'm pretty sure] There are others on this list who may be able to further this info with a landmark that may be there today or a neighborhood, or a church parish. I'd be interested too. Janice Boston

Hi, Does anyone on this list know of a website that gives the street name changes for some of the older streets in Boston? I'm specifically looking for 12 Montgomery Place and want to find where the address would be located today. Thanks in advance! Ruth