Among the documents of the two estate sales of Johannes Bast, (That is how he signed his will of 9/3/1777), there is a listing of what the heirs bought, and William's name is listed among them . Furthermore, William was one of the administaters of the estate sales, and his signature appears on the tally sheet. I have copies of the estate sales and the will. >From: "David W. Long" <[email protected]> >To: "Mary Harkey Russell" <[email protected]>, "Bost list" ><[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BOST] Susanna Katarina Moyer.- Elias Bost >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:07:42 -0600 > >ALL I KNOW for CERTAIN is that my Henry Long md. Catherine Bost. She most >certainly had a younger sister >Caroline Bost who md. Paul Hagler, and they had a younger brother William >"Billy" Bost who died (apparently) >unmaried in 1891. William's Estate Records name many of his siblings, >neices and nephews, including my 2nd >great grandfather, Julius Long, along with his brother, William Long, and >their "living" siblings. I have not >yet proven much more than this and i'm relying on the previous research of >others (at this time). Including >article #305, by Sally Ranson (1998) in the "Heritage of Old Mecklenburg >Co., NC 1763-2003", Old Mecklenburg >Historical Society. > >Sally Ranson lists only 7 children for "Johannas Bast/Bost." died in 1777. >They are Leonhardt, Maria >Catharina, Johannas, Elias, Margaretha Barbara, Elizabeth and Johann Jacob. > >Some give his full name as Johännas Wilhelm Bäst (d. 1777-78) >I have not seen a source for Johännas Bäst middle (or given) name of >Wilhelm. Although I have not seen the >baptismal records of his children in PA, it is my understanding that he is >listed only as Johannas. > >It is also my understanding, that in his will of 1777-78, he is simply >named John Bost. I find this very >irregular! Because the germans did NOT go by their "Christian" name. Which >in this case (Johännas Wilhelm), >the "Christian" name is Johannas or John. The "Christian" name was "rarely" >used outside of church >activities/records. > >If Johannas' name was indeed Johannas Wilhelm, he "should" have gone by his >"given" or middle name of William >in court records (Will) to follow or conform to the traditional patterns. >Do you have any information that >might help straighten out this naming problem for me?? >----------- > >In revisiting my conversations with Jane Beck, I came across this message >in which she suggested that there is >not enough evidence to prove that Johann Wilhelm Bast was a son of Johännas >Bäst. (From my [DWL] info, Wilhelm >is the only Bost to settle in Lincoln/Catawba County). > >Concerning the monument at St. John's >"David, monuments are not put up by the original family. Johannes Bost had >no say in what went on that stone. >Monuments are erected by descendants and/or interested parties, and the >words on that stone reflect what they >know -- and their knowledge is limited to what has been preserved by record >and/or verbally passed down in the >family. Above and beyond that, they use the same sources to research >(hopefully) that you and I do. >Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they don't." > >"The reason there is no certainty that Wilhelm Basst was a son of Johannes >Basst is that no record exists for >it. While the Baptismal records of the oldest children of Johannes & wife >Susannah exist in Pennsylvania >Records up until the time of their move to North Carolina, William's name >does not appear as a son of theirs. >These birth records appear in the Williams Township Congregation Church >Book. The first child recorded for >Johannes & wife Susannah was "Leonhardt", born 2-11-1740. The Johannes >Basst family was NOT the only Bost >family in Pennsylvania... > >The approximate birth date agreed upon by means of existing records for >Wilhelm Basst (William) is around 1738 >at the latest. Now let's talk chronology: > >In 1732, when the ship Pink Plaisance arrived at Philadelphia, Johannes >Basst was listed as a child. We do >not know his exact age -- but we can conclude from the evidence about >William that he was born no later than >just 6 years after that arrival of Johannes, the child. This alone does >not rule Johannes OUT as father -- >But we can conclude that he was quite young to have been a father. The >word "child" on a ship's list seems to >have varying implications from list to list. There are those which include >as "children" all those under 16 - >We have no specifics on the age max of the children on that particular >ship. If Johannes was as old as say, >15, then he would have been around 21 at the time of William's birth -- IF >William was born as late as 1738. >(And we don't know that he wasn't born sooner. If Johannes was as young as >8 or 9, however -- and we don't >know that he wasn't, then we have a chronological improbability. (and you >can un-fancy that to this -- We >don't know that Johannes was old enough to have been the father of a child >born 1738 or before.)" > >Dave Long >Memphis, TN > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mary Harkey Russell" <[email protected]> >To: "Bost list" <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:35 PM >Subject: [BOST] Susanna Katarina Moyer.- Elias Bost > > > > David Long, you gave Susanna Catharina a last name. Moyer. > > I never had her maiden name. Are we sure it was Moyer? > > I descend from Anna Maria Bost born abt 1746. She married Mark House. >They > > both died in Iredell Co. 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