This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: payne1623 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/69.93.101.1.3.4.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: OK, to further clutter our minds with stuff that is German, let me share this data that pertains to the Johannes Bast (Nichol, Jurig etc) who stayed in Pa. None of this, so far, pertains to the Johannes Bast of Cabarrus Co., NC. My friend's work is a bit scholarly for me but we are working on the parentage of old Johannes Bast of N. C., and even reaching out to Ireland for answers. Why this confusion? Stuff gets on the Internet and gets cut and pasted and purloined without research and I am guilty of not looking more closely at the proper German connections myself. Elias Bost, of course, in the family of Johannes Bast of N. C. Now for the "heads up" "Pfalz Bayern. Pfalz is not a town in Bavaria (Bayern). Bayern is a German Federal State and Rheinlandpfalz is another German Federal State. What Americans call the Palatinate is the Rheinlandpfalz. Palatinate comes from Latin for palace and in old German a Pfalz was a palace. Without the benefit of the internet kings made regular rounds of their kingdom to show the flag and dispense justice. They sometimes held court in the homes of other nobles, but they had various palaces to use in these rounds. The palatinate was administered by a noble and included the surrounding area that supported the palace. As the power of these nobles grew they expanded this area and in the case of the Rheinlanpfalz it became quite large. In historic times it stretched from the Rheinland through Württemberg to a small part of Bavaria, but has been greatly reduced to its present Size along the lower Rhine River. By the time you are talking about it was already reduced in size. In my former work, in Generation 1, have Heuchelheim Frankental Pfalz, Bayern. There are six Heuchelheims in Germany but Heuchelheim FRankental is ca. 50 miles south of Frankfurt am Main near Ludwigshafen in the Federal State Rheinlandpfalz, not in Bavaria." I began to pull down my incorrect stuff two years ago and the Google etc., is like an octopus with it's tentacles grasping onto every "jot and title" of data. It eats what it is fed, genealogy speaking. "Creative genealogy" a phrase I think I coined, is prominent in old WFTM archives. Sorry, but it's all a learning experience and maybe the DNA Projects will bail us out one day? TOC Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.