This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Germanna Surnames: BAST, BOST Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/78.86.92.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On 13 May 2007 KPUSSER Said: >From your lineage, it appears we are related >I also descend from Elias Bost, via his son >William, born 1777, died 1828, married Elizabeth >Shive, d/o Anna Catherine Guthmann (Goodman). >I'm a not-to distant relative, as I live in >Santa Maria, just south of you. I don't descend from Elias or William, but do descend from Johann Wilhelm BAST, Sr., father of Johann Elias BAST and grandfather of William BOST, through Johann Elias' brother Johannes "John" BAST, Jr. I live in Knoxville, TN. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KPUSSER Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/78.86.92/mb.ashx Message Board Post: >From your lineage, it appears we are related. I also descend from Elias Bost, via his son William, born 1777, died 1828, married Elizabeth Shive, d/o Anna Catherine Guthmann (Goodman). I'm a not-to distant relative, as I live in Santa Maria, just south of you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LParks8218 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/18.25.76.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Ruby Bost (might actually be BEST) her sister's name was Laura Belle not Annabell,Ruby was born 1919 in Parkin,AR.....if this is Tina you can email me at [email protected] ,com Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LeAnnUnderwood Surnames: Bost/Chisem/Spencer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/184.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I see this is an old posting but hoping that someone checks it regularly. I am wondering if you have any information on Adam and Mary's children? I believe that this bunch of Bost's may be related to me my grandmother's name was Ruby Mae (Bost) Chisem b. 5 July abt 1920 d. 25 May 1975. Her parents were Samuel "Sam" Bost born about 1865 in Ohio and Ludy (Spencer?) Bost born 1871 and they lived in Arkansas. I found Sam in 1900 census married to Mary C with 4 children Maud G daughter born 1888, Charles W son born 1891, Levi A son born 1894, and Oris son born 1900 living in Napoleon, Heny Co, Ohio. Again in 1910 census living in Tyronza Twp, Cross Co., Arkansas with same wife and children. And yet again in 1920 census married to Ludy with 4 different children. In the 1920 census it says Sam was 57 yrs old Ludy was 32 yrs old Elmur StClair son 16, Curtis StClair son 15, Laura Bost daughter 4, Ruby Bost daughter 6/12. Any of this ring a bell with anyone? Any and all information wi! ll be greatly appreciated. You may contact me directly at kr[email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: LeAnnUnderwood Surnames: Bost/Chisem/Clark/Spencer Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/184.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I see this is an old posting but hoping that someone checks it regularly. I am wondering if you have any information on Adam and Mary's children? I believe that this bunch of Bost's may be related to me my grandmother's name was Ruby Mae (Bost) Chisem b. 5 July abt 1920 d. 25 May 1975. Her parents were Samuel "Sam" Bost born about 1865 in Ohio and Ludy (Spencer?) Bost born 1871 and they lived in Arkansas. I found Sam in 1900 census married to Mary C with 4 children Maud G daughter born 1888, Charles W son born 1891, Levi A son born 1894, and Oris son born 1900 living in Napoleon, Heny Co, Ohio. Again in 1910 census living in Tyronza Twp, Cross Co., Arkansas with same wife and children. And yet again in 1920 census married to Ludy with 4 different children. In the 1920 census it says Sam was 57 yrs old Ludy was 32 yrs old Elmur StClair son 16, Curtis StClair son 15, Laura Bost daughter 4, Ruby Bost daughter 6/12. Any of this ring a bell with anyone? Any and all information wi! ll be greatly appreciated. You may contact me directly at [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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Good idea. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Harkey Russell" <[email protected]> To: "Bost list" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 24, 2006 11:09 PM Subject: [BOST] list manager > Message Board posts are sent to the list.................... > If you wish to respond to a message board post you can no longer click on > reply and get to the person who posted the message. Nor can you find out > who > sent the post to the message board if you use it. Ancestry has decided > this is necessary to protect your privacy. > When I use the board from now on I intend to put my email contact address > inside the message saying " contact me at this address" in that way, if > someone sees my post and they come from the same family line that I do, > they > will have someway to contact me. > I'll do like this.... > Mary Harkey Russell > [email protected] > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

Message Board posts are sent to the list.................... If you wish to respond to a message board post you can no longer click on reply and get to the person who posted the message. Nor can you find out who sent the post to the message board if you use it. Ancestry has decided this is necessary to protect your privacy. When I use the board from now on I intend to put my email contact address inside the message saying " contact me at this address" in that way, if someone sees my post and they come from the same family line that I do, they will have someway to contact me. I'll do like this.... Mary Harkey Russell [email protected]

I agree with you, Payne. Although the will of Johannes begins with" I, John Bost", we realize that the will is being written by another, a scribe or clerk, who uses the English version, or commonly used version of Johannes' name, because at the end of the will, he signs his name as "Johannes Bast", and affixes his seal. If his name follows the German Lutheran custom, it may have been Johnnes Wilhelm Bast, as the boys in a family would have a saint's name prefixed to theirs, in this case, John, but it was never used as part of the name on documents, etc. So , we'll most likely never know if his name was William or not, but it doesn't matter, after all, does it? >From: "Payne Daniel" <[email protected]> >Reply-To: Payne Daniel <[email protected]> >To: "Mary Harkey Russell" <[email protected]>, "BOST list" ><[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BOST] Johannes BAST & Johann Wilhelm BAST, Jr. >Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 08:57:40 -0500 > >I agree with Mary and why all the speculating on the Bast lineage? I see no >big mystery? >""We may have to settle on what the preponderance of information leads us >to >believe. I would say Use Johannes and say his name was simply JOHN . >Unless someone has proof otherwise. I would drop Klein/Cline and use >unknown first wife for his first son William Bast/Bost. I make notes to >myself that it has been said that Johannes may have had a middle name of >Wilhelm. etc. etc."" > >If you find some error or question about my work at http://paynedaniel.com >let me know. >Payne > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mary Harkey Russell" <[email protected]> >To: "BOST list" <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:00 PM >Subject: Re: [BOST] Johannes BAST & Johann Wilhelm BAST, Jr. > > > > There is a wall behind us about 350 years and each year it moves forward >a > > year. > > If we get any information back of the wall, we are very lucky. > > Before I put everything on computer, I put it into notebooks. I still > > have > > the notebooks. I am not a genealogist, having never been able to travel > > my > > information comes only from other people. Bost notebook includes email > > from > > 1996 onward and it is talking about the very same things we are talking > > about today. I don't know if we will ever get it right because of >that > > wall > > ------------------------- > > In 2002 one Warren Smith sent me Bast/ Bost genealogy. > > 1 --generation Nicol 1659 Pfalz , Bayerne died in Germany > > 2 --generation Georg Jurig Bast before 1687 Pfalz, Bayern it was he on >the > > ship with wife anna Maree and child > > 3--generation Johannes Wilhelm born 1719/20 in Kaldung Germany >christened > > 10 July 1721 Evangelisch-Lutherische Church , Heuchelheim, Frankenthal, > > Pfalz, Bayern Bermany and who died in Cabarrus Co. NC buried in St. >John's > > Luthercem, Mt pleasant Cabarrus Co. NC> > > So if his name was Johannes Wilhelm and he was christened and that >church > > has old records and someone can read old German then the name would be > > there. > > He also lists son Johannes William 1738/39 my Anna Maria Bost born abt > > 1746 > > then lists wife Susannah Catharina and goes on to Leonhardt born > > 1740-------------------- > > Barney Sitz one of our group of researchers early on sid that Mary >Kline > > wasn't born until 1755. So could not have been the mother of Wm. Bost >born > > 1743. He said in 1998 that he has quite a bit of Cline/Klean genealogy >and > > nothing proves that > > ------------------------------ > > How accurate was Mary Pegram West's genealogy? I have a print out of > > some > > of her work. She said that Georg Bast and Anna Maria 's son was >Johannes > > Wilheim Bast born 26 Feb 1719/20 Kaldung Germany > > She lists my Anna Maria as born 1746 and William Bast as first son. >Then > > the marriage to Susannah Catherina and has Leonhardt Bast born in >1739/40 > > ( it seems mistakes compounded? ) > > ------------------------------- > > The ship Pink Plaisance Sept. 1732 seems to have had at least 3/4 of my > > German ancestors represented. They stuck together and in NC married >and > > intermarried and are wound up tighter than threads in a tapestry. > > ------------------------------------ > > We may have to settle on what the preponderance of information leads us > > to > > believe. I would say Use Johannes and say his name was simply JOHN . > > Unless someone has proof otherwise. I would drop Klein/Cline and use > > unknown first wife for his first son William Bast/Bost. I make notes to > > myself that it has been said that Johannes may have had a middle name of > > Wilhelm. etc. etc. > > What say YE? > > Mary > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message

My cousin is German and she does genealogy, I just ask questions. She tried to explain how people were and are named. I think this will simply highlight how unlikely we are to get proof of Johannes Bast/Bost's names. I think this letter will help explain why. <G> If it were a perfect world, Johannes Wilhelm would become John William, John being his given name. Maybe his name had been Johann Johannes, where at Baptism, Johann would be removed. Then there is the "rufname" or "call name". Johannes could have been the rufname, or Wilhelm could have been the rufname. The order of the "legal" name has nothing to do with what the person goes by, or is known by. Lets use your name for example.... Your mother named you Mary, in your case by choice. In Germany that would, more often than not, have not been the case. You would have been named Mary because your "sponsor" (godmother) was named Mary. The names are not often repeated because it generally is not the custom to have any child within a family to have the same godparents. Ok, then the records would show you as (most likely) Anna Mary Harkey. Forget the "middle" name because you would not have one yet. Your name in the religious world would change a few times. You were 1st documented as Anna Mary Harkey. You get baptized and now Anna falls off, you are Mary Harkey. You continue life in the church and along comes time for your confirmation. You pick a name, in your case that would account for "Alice" So... you were born, given the name of your godmother (Mary), the name Anna was your baptismal name and disappears, you then get confirmed and take the name "Alice" so, born unnamed, given your sponsors name Mary, offer your baptismal name Anna, take a confirmation name Alice. Records through the years would show you as baptism - Anna Mary after baptism - Mary post confirmation Mary Alice does this make any sense? Clear as mud to me <G> Mary

I agree with Mary and why all the speculating on the Bast lineage? I see no big mystery? ""We may have to settle on what the preponderance of information leads us to believe. I would say Use Johannes and say his name was simply JOHN . Unless someone has proof otherwise. I would drop Klein/Cline and use unknown first wife for his first son William Bast/Bost. I make notes to myself that it has been said that Johannes may have had a middle name of Wilhelm. etc. etc."" If you find some error or question about my work at http://paynedaniel.com let me know. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Harkey Russell" <[email protected]> To: "BOST list" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 10:00 PM Subject: Re: [BOST] Johannes BAST & Johann Wilhelm BAST, Jr. > There is a wall behind us about 350 years and each year it moves forward a > year. > If we get any information back of the wall, we are very lucky. > Before I put everything on computer, I put it into notebooks. I still > have > the notebooks. I am not a genealogist, having never been able to travel > my > information comes only from other people. Bost notebook includes email > from > 1996 onward and it is talking about the very same things we are talking > about today. I don't know if we will ever get it right because of that > wall > ------------------------- > In 2002 one Warren Smith sent me Bast/ Bost genealogy. > 1 --generation Nicol 1659 Pfalz , Bayerne died in Germany > 2 --generation Georg Jurig Bast before 1687 Pfalz, Bayern it was he on the > ship with wife anna Maree and child > 3--generation Johannes Wilhelm born 1719/20 in Kaldung Germany christened > 10 July 1721 Evangelisch-Lutherische Church , Heuchelheim, Frankenthal, > Pfalz, Bayern Bermany and who died in Cabarrus Co. NC buried in St. John's > Luthercem, Mt pleasant Cabarrus Co. NC> > So if his name was Johannes Wilhelm and he was christened and that church > has old records and someone can read old German then the name would be > there. > He also lists son Johannes William 1738/39 my Anna Maria Bost born abt > 1746 > then lists wife Susannah Catharina and goes on to Leonhardt born > 1740-------------------- > Barney Sitz one of our group of researchers early on sid that Mary Kline > wasn't born until 1755. So could not have been the mother of Wm. Bost born > 1743. He said in 1998 that he has quite a bit of Cline/Klean genealogy and > nothing proves that > ------------------------------ > How accurate was Mary Pegram West's genealogy? I have a print out of > some > of her work. She said that Georg Bast and Anna Maria 's son was Johannes > Wilheim Bast born 26 Feb 1719/20 Kaldung Germany > She lists my Anna Maria as born 1746 and William Bast as first son. Then > the marriage to Susannah Catherina and has Leonhardt Bast born in 1739/40 > ( it seems mistakes compounded? ) > ------------------------------- > The ship Pink Plaisance Sept. 1732 seems to have had at least 3/4 of my > German ancestors represented. They stuck together and in NC married and > intermarried and are wound up tighter than threads in a tapestry. > ------------------------------------ > We may have to settle on what the preponderance of information leads us > to > believe. I would say Use Johannes and say his name was simply JOHN . > Unless someone has proof otherwise. I would drop Klein/Cline and use > unknown first wife for his first son William Bast/Bost. I make notes to > myself that it has been said that Johannes may have had a middle name of > Wilhelm. etc. etc. > What say YE? > Mary > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >

There is a wall behind us about 350 years and each year it moves forward a year. If we get any information back of the wall, we are very lucky. Before I put everything on computer, I put it into notebooks. I still have the notebooks. I am not a genealogist, having never been able to travel my information comes only from other people. Bost notebook includes email from 1996 onward and it is talking about the very same things we are talking about today. I don't know if we will ever get it right because of that wall ------------------------- In 2002 one Warren Smith sent me Bast/ Bost genealogy. 1 --generation Nicol 1659 Pfalz , Bayerne died in Germany 2 --generation Georg Jurig Bast before 1687 Pfalz, Bayern it was he on the ship with wife anna Maree and child 3--generation Johannes Wilhelm born 1719/20 in Kaldung Germany christened 10 July 1721 Evangelisch-Lutherische Church , Heuchelheim, Frankenthal, Pfalz, Bayern Bermany and who died in Cabarrus Co. NC buried in St. John's Luthercem, Mt pleasant Cabarrus Co. NC> So if his name was Johannes Wilhelm and he was christened and that church has old records and someone can read old German then the name would be there. He also lists son Johannes William 1738/39 my Anna Maria Bost born abt 1746 then lists wife Susannah Catharina and goes on to Leonhardt born 1740-------------------- Barney Sitz one of our group of researchers early on sid that Mary Kline wasn't born until 1755. So could not have been the mother of Wm. Bost born 1743. He said in 1998 that he has quite a bit of Cline/Klean genealogy and nothing proves that ------------------------------ How accurate was Mary Pegram West's genealogy? I have a print out of some of her work. She said that Georg Bast and Anna Maria 's son was Johannes Wilheim Bast born 26 Feb 1719/20 Kaldung Germany She lists my Anna Maria as born 1746 and William Bast as first son. Then the marriage to Susannah Catherina and has Leonhardt Bast born in 1739/40 ( it seems mistakes compounded? ) ------------------------------- The ship Pink Plaisance Sept. 1732 seems to have had at least 3/4 of my German ancestors represented. They stuck together and in NC married and intermarried and are wound up tighter than threads in a tapestry. ------------------------------------ We may have to settle on what the preponderance of information leads us to believe. I would say Use Johannes and say his name was simply JOHN . Unless someone has proof otherwise. I would drop Klein/Cline and use unknown first wife for his first son William Bast/Bost. I make notes to myself that it has been said that Johannes may have had a middle name of Wilhelm. etc. etc. What say YE? Mary

George, Help me out a little bit here... snip Geo. <Somewhere along the way I picked up the "unknown" 1st wife of Johann Wilhelm BAST, Sr., as one Mary KLEIN>snip The Johannes Bast (ca 1720-1777) who "may have" md. a Cline (daughter of Sabastian [K]Cline) as his first wife, did not have a given/middle name of "Wilhelm". How did you come to the conclusion that his middle name is Wilhelm??? In the baptismal records of his children and in his will, he is simply signed or was refered to as Johannes. This Johännes (no middle name) md. Susannah Catharina --?-- (possibly Moyer) as his "possible 2nd wife". As for the the 1st marraige to a "A daughter of Bostian Klein", refer to Mary Harlkley Russell's message from Tues, Dec 12. BUT be advised, this information should be concidered hearsay, until "we" find THE AUTHOR'S SOURCE of that information. - "The History of Grace Lutheran Church 1777 to 1899" by col. George M. Yoder". Also NOTE, not "everyone" agree's that Johann Wilhelm (md. Catherine Goodhardt) was the William named in the will and estate records of Johännes (ca 1720-1777). I have not researched William, but in my oppinion he "most likely" is the son, but there is just enough room for some doubt. Do any of the land records for William link him back to Mecklenburg/Cabarrus area? Bible records for Johannes (ca 1720-1777)? snip Geo. <Somewhere along the way I picked up the "unknown" 1st wife of Johann Wilhelm BAST, Sr., as one Mary KLEIN>snip Johann Wilhelm Bost (ca 1738/9-1822) md. Catherine Goodhardt. This Johann Wilhelm Bost might a Sr., but I have not researched this line. snip Geo. <I have your g-g-g-g-grandfather Johann Elias BAST in my database>snip Where did you obtain Elias Bost's (1747-1822) first/christian name of Johann? This Elias Bost md. Elizabeth --?-- (possibly Lyerle or Schlauch). I do not have any baptismal or church records for Elias. These records would most likely be at St. John's, Cabarrus, but I have not been able to search those (yet). I would be interested in this information, as "Elias" is my 5th g-g-father. Thank You, Dave Long Memphis, TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "George W. Durman" <[email protected]> To: "Kent Pusser" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:15 AM Subject: [BOST] Johannes BAST & Johann Wilhelm BAST, Jr. > Hello Kent, > > I hadn't thought about that fact. So, I guess Conrad and Catherine > were actually 1st Half-Cousins? (GRIN) > > Somewhere along the way I picked up the "unknown" 1st wife of Johann > Wilhelm BAST, Sr., as one Mary KLEIN. Does anyone else have > that? If so, is there any documentation for her name? I > > I have your g-g-g-g-grandfather Johann Elias BAST in my database, but > only have a couple of generations of his descendants. Would love to > add your branch/line down to you. > > At 12/10/2006 12:23 PM Sunday, Kent Pusser wrote: > *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* > >>Hello George, >> Seems you descend from both wives of Johannes >> Bast. William was a son of the unknown 1st wife, and John is the >> son of the 2nd wife, Susanna Catharina Moyer, daughter of Elias >> Myer and Anna Catharina. William is the half-brother of my 4th >> great -grandfather, Elias Bost, 1747-1822, and John is the full >> brother of Elias. >>(snip) > **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

George, I should have added that the "Monumental Family Stone" as I called it, is refered to as a "Large Stone in back" and was "placed there in 1976 by Family of Caleb W and Lilah Bost". This information is on the website at the link below. http://www.rootsweb.com/~nccabarr/Cems/BostFamCem.htm I'm not sure if I have a photo of this "family" stone or not, but it can be seen in photo at the afore mentioned website. I assume this is where your obtained the information? Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "David W. Long" <[email protected]> To: "BOST list" <[email protected]>; "George W. Durman" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [BOST] My BOST Line (Was: Communicating Off List) Hi George, <snip>I have Henry, Catherine, Paul, and Caroline all being buried at the Bost Cemetery, Midland, Cabarrus, NC<snip> No, your information would be incorrect. Let me explain to you why... Someone placed a "Monumental Family Stone" at the Bost Cemetery in/near Midland, in memory of the William and Elizabeth (Shive) Bost FAMILY. This land (where the cemetery is located) is said to be on the land and near the home of William and Elizabeth (Shive) Bost. NOT ALL those named on that "family" stone are actualy buried there. The parents, William and Elizabeth (Shive) Bost are indeed buried there. Of their children named on that "family" stone, Wilson Bost is the only ONE [1] that I am aware of actually being buried there. Green Hill and Delighla Swearengen are surely NOT there. I do not know where Allen Bost and his 3 wives are buried, but I believe they are not there and somewhere near. Henry and Catherine Long are surely NOT there. William Bost (d. 1891) is surely NOT there. I do not know where Paul and Caroline Hagler are buried, but they are surely NOT there. Hiriam Bost is surely NOT there. I do not know where Belinda Burkhead, Elizabeth Turner or Andrew Jackson Bost are buried. Dave Long Memphis, TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "George W. Durman" <[email protected]> To: "David W. Long" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [BOST] My BOST Line (Was: Communicating Off List) Hello David, I have Henry, Catherine, Paul, and Caroline all being buried at the Bost Cemetery, Midland, Cabarrus, NC. Somewhere on the web I found a cemetery mapping for that family cemetery and, supposedly, those four, plus several more, are buried there. ????? Sarge At 12/10/2006 07:13 PM Sunday, David W. Long wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >George, > >Kent and I both decend from William Bost and Elizabeth Shive/Scheib. He, if I'm not mistaken, from their >daughter Caroline who md. Paul Hagler, and I from thier daughter Catherine who md. Henry Long. Both these >families lived near one another in part of Mecklenburg County that became Union County. Henry and Catherine >are buried at Emanuel Lutheran Church Cemetery in or near Indian Trail. I do not know where Paul and Caroline >are >buried. (Kent, if you are reading, I would like that info, if it is available) > >Wiliam Bost the son of Elias Bost and (K)Catherine --?--(Lyerly or Schlauch). >Elias Bost the son of Johännas Bäst and Susanna Katarina Moyer. > >Dave Long >Memphis, TN >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT*********** ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi George, <snip>I have Henry, Catherine, Paul, and Caroline all being buried at the Bost Cemetery, Midland, Cabarrus, NC<snip> No, your information would be incorrect. Let me explain to you why... Someone placed a "Monumental Family Stone" at the Bost Cemetery in/near Midland, in memory of the William and Elizabeth (Shive) Bost FAMILY. This land (where the cemetery is located) is said to be on the land and near the home of William and Elizabeth (Shive) Bost. NOT ALL those named on that "family" stone are actualy buried there. The parents, William and Elizabeth (Shive) Bost are indeed buried there. Of their children named on that "family" stone, Wilson Bost is the only ONE [1] that I am aware of actually being buried there. Green Hill and Delighla Swearengen are surely NOT there. I do not know where Allen Bost and his 3 wives are buried, but I believe they are not there and somewhere near. Henry and Catherine Long are surely NOT there. William Bost (d. 1891) is surely NOT there. I do not know where Paul and Caroline Hagler are buried, but they are surely NOT there. Hiriam Bost is surely NOT there. I do not know where Belinda Burkhead, Elizabeth Turner or Andrew Jackson Bost are buried. Dave Long Memphis, TN ----- Original Message ----- From: "George W. Durman" <[email protected]> To: "David W. Long" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2006 1:23 AM Subject: Re: [BOST] My BOST Line (Was: Communicating Off List) Hello David, I have Henry, Catherine, Paul, and Caroline all being buried at the Bost Cemetery, Midland, Cabarrus, NC. Somewhere on the web I found a cemetery mapping for that family cemetery and, supposedly, those four, plus several more, are buried there. ????? Sarge At 12/10/2006 07:13 PM Sunday, David W. Long wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >George, > >Kent and I both decend from William Bost and Elizabeth Shive/Scheib. He, if I'm not mistaken, from their >daughter Caroline who md. Paul Hagler, and I from thier daughter Catherine who md. Henry Long. Both these >families lived near one another in part of Mecklenburg County that became Union County. Henry and Catherine >are buried at Emanuel Lutheran Church Cemetery in or near Indian Trail. I do not know where Paul and Caroline >are >buried. (Kent, if you are reading, I would like that info, if it is available) > >Wiliam Bost the son of Elias Bost and (K)Catherine --?--(Lyerly or Schlauch). >Elias Bost the son of Johännas Bäst and Susanna Katarina Moyer. > >Dave Long >Memphis, TN >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT***********

Hello Mary, Susannah's name was supposedly MOYER, but her father's name was supposedly MEYER. That was probably the spelling in Germany. Also, if I had to bet, I would bet that Mark HOUSE's surname was HAUS. It's interesting that he, Mark, came from the Baden-Württemberg area of Germany, where the 1717 and 1714 "Germanna" immigrants came from. And more, Iredell County is where my WILKINSON/McQUILKIN ancestors came from. Sarge At 12/11/2006 03:35 PM Monday, Mary Harkey Russell wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >David Long, you gave Susanna Catharina a last name. Moyer. >I never had her maiden name. Are we sure it was Moyer? >I descend from Anna Maria Bost born abt 1746. She married Mark House. They >both died in Iredell Co. NC. > Mary Harkey Russell >[email protected] >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bird **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT***********

Hello David, I have Henry, Catherine, Paul, and Caroline all being buried at the Bost Cemetery, Midland, Cabarrus, NC. Somewhere on the web I found a cemetery mapping for that family cemetery and, supposedly, those four, plus several more, are buried there. ????? Sarge At 12/10/2006 07:13 PM Sunday, David W. Long wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >George, > >Kent and I both decend from William Bost and >Elizabeth Shive/Scheib. He, if I'm not mistaken, from their >daughter Caroline who md. Paul Hagler, and I >from thier daughter Catherine who md. Henry Long. Both these >families lived near one another in part of >Mecklenburg County that became Union County. Henry and Catherine >are buried at Emanuel Lutheran Church Cemetery >in or near Indian Trail. I do not know where Paul and Caroline are >buried. (Kent, if you are reading, I would like that info, if it is available) > >Wiliam Bost the son of Elias Bost and (K)Catherine --?--(Lyerly or Schlauch). >Elias Bost the son of Johännas Bäst and Susanna Katarina Moyer. > >Dave Long >Memphis, TN >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT***********

Hello Kent, I hadn't thought about that fact. So, I guess Conrad and Catherine were actually 1st Half-Cousins? (GRIN) Somewhere along the way I picked up the "unknown" 1st wife of Johann Wilhelm BAST, Sr., as one Mary KLEIN. Does anyone else have that? If so, is there any documentation for her name? I I have your g-g-g-g-grandfather Johann Elias BAST in my database, but only have a couple of generations of his descendants. Would love to add your branch/line down to you. At 12/10/2006 12:23 PM Sunday, Kent Pusser wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Hello George, > Seems you descend from both wives of Johannes > Bast. William was a son of the unknown 1st wife, and John is the > son of the 2nd wife, Susanna Catharina Moyer, daughter of Elias > Myer and Anna Catharina. William is the half-brother of my 4th > great -grandfather, Elias Bost, 1747-1822, and John is the full > brother of Elias. >(snip) **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT***********

Marx Haus, MARK HOUSE, performed Patriotic Service during the Revolution, his son, Elias House, served as a soldier, losing an arm at the battle of Charleston. There is a Bost Kline marriage, but that is a generation or so later. >From: "Mary Harkey Russell" <[email protected]> >To: "Bost list" <[email protected]> >Subject: [BOST] Notes on Johannes and wives >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:43:58 -0600 > >I do have first wife Mary Cline. From my notes :There is no proof that >Mary Klein / Cline is the first wife of Johannes Bast/Bost except there is >one note in > " The History of Grace Lutheran Church 1777 to 1899" by col. George M. >Yoder that makes a reference to " William Bost whose mother was Bostian >Cline's daughter" >That would be William Bost born Between 1738/1739 in Northampton C. PA who >married Catherine Goodhart. >Mary Cline may have died in childbirth because I have his marriage to >Susannah around 1740. >This is my notes: >He arrived in America September 1732 on the Ship Pink Pliance. With his >parents . He was about 17 years old. >------------------------------------------------------ >Johannes Bast is the pioneer ancestor of the Bast/Bost families of North >Carolina, HE migrated in 1754 from Bucks Co. PA. -- this is from his >tombstone. St John's Lutheran Cem Marker Cabarrus Co. NC >-------------------------------------------- > >In a letter from (deleted) to (deleted) she states -- Johannes Bast and >his >familly came to Pennsylvania on the Pink Plaisance in Sept 1732. He is >listed as a child on the ship's list and the only other Bast are Gerg >(Jerig) Bast age 46 and Anna Maree Bast age 44. Johannes Bast later named >one of his daughters Anna Maria and one of his sons George which is English >version of Jerig. >================================================================= >Biographical notes by Mary Pegram West said that Johannes was an educated >German, a farmer, a Lutheran. First records found to date are in the >History of Old Williams Township Congregation (Lutheran) of Bucks Co. Pa. >Now in Northampton Co. Records are found there about his wife Susanna >Catharina and 9 of his children and their activities from 1740 to late >summer 1754. > In about 1754 the family moved to North Carolina and settled near other >German families and near St. John's Lutheran Church. They are burried >there. >He signed his name JOHANNES BAST. >----------------------------------------------------- >Before the Rev. War and during , British soldiers tortured St John's first >pastor,Adolph Nussmann and he died from these wounds. Understandably this >is why the Bost family and others took an active part in the cause for >freedom. >4 of his sons William, Elias, Jacob and George served as soldiers and >Patriots. There are documents indicating that John also served. >---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >As for Anna Maria Bost House--- my notes :Married Marx Haus one of the >three >trustees who secured the land grant for St. John's Church He is listed as a >Rev war soldier. >She is listed as a daughter of Johannes Bast on the tombstone. Too bad no >one said the name of her mother:>( >------------- >Mary Russell > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message

Among the documents of the two estate sales of Johannes Bast, (That is how he signed his will of 9/3/1777), there is a listing of what the heirs bought, and William's name is listed among them . Furthermore, William was one of the administaters of the estate sales, and his signature appears on the tally sheet. I have copies of the estate sales and the will. >From: "David W. Long" <[email protected]> >To: "Mary Harkey Russell" <[email protected]>, "Bost list" ><[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [BOST] Susanna Katarina Moyer.- Elias Bost >Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:07:42 -0600 > >ALL I KNOW for CERTAIN is that my Henry Long md. Catherine Bost. She most >certainly had a younger sister >Caroline Bost who md. Paul Hagler, and they had a younger brother William >"Billy" Bost who died (apparently) >unmaried in 1891. William's Estate Records name many of his siblings, >neices and nephews, including my 2nd >great grandfather, Julius Long, along with his brother, William Long, and >their "living" siblings. I have not >yet proven much more than this and i'm relying on the previous research of >others (at this time). Including >article #305, by Sally Ranson (1998) in the "Heritage of Old Mecklenburg >Co., NC 1763-2003", Old Mecklenburg >Historical Society. > >Sally Ranson lists only 7 children for "Johannas Bast/Bost." died in 1777. >They are Leonhardt, Maria >Catharina, Johannas, Elias, Margaretha Barbara, Elizabeth and Johann Jacob. > >Some give his full name as Johännas Wilhelm Bäst (d. 1777-78) >I have not seen a source for Johännas Bäst middle (or given) name of >Wilhelm. Although I have not seen the >baptismal records of his children in PA, it is my understanding that he is >listed only as Johannas. > >It is also my understanding, that in his will of 1777-78, he is simply >named John Bost. I find this very >irregular! Because the germans did NOT go by their "Christian" name. Which >in this case (Johännas Wilhelm), >the "Christian" name is Johannas or John. The "Christian" name was "rarely" >used outside of church >activities/records. > >If Johannas' name was indeed Johannas Wilhelm, he "should" have gone by his >"given" or middle name of William >in court records (Will) to follow or conform to the traditional patterns. >Do you have any information that >might help straighten out this naming problem for me?? >----------- > >In revisiting my conversations with Jane Beck, I came across this message >in which she suggested that there is >not enough evidence to prove that Johann Wilhelm Bast was a son of Johännas >Bäst. (From my [DWL] info, Wilhelm >is the only Bost to settle in Lincoln/Catawba County). > >Concerning the monument at St. John's >"David, monuments are not put up by the original family. Johannes Bost had >no say in what went on that stone. >Monuments are erected by descendants and/or interested parties, and the >words on that stone reflect what they >know -- and their knowledge is limited to what has been preserved by record >and/or verbally passed down in the >family. Above and beyond that, they use the same sources to research >(hopefully) that you and I do. >Sometimes they get it right, sometimes they don't." > >"The reason there is no certainty that Wilhelm Basst was a son of Johannes >Basst is that no record exists for >it. While the Baptismal records of the oldest children of Johannes & wife >Susannah exist in Pennsylvania >Records up until the time of their move to North Carolina, William's name >does not appear as a son of theirs. >These birth records appear in the Williams Township Congregation Church >Book. The first child recorded for >Johannes & wife Susannah was "Leonhardt", born 2-11-1740. The Johannes >Basst family was NOT the only Bost >family in Pennsylvania... > >The approximate birth date agreed upon by means of existing records for >Wilhelm Basst (William) is around 1738 >at the latest. Now let's talk chronology: > >In 1732, when the ship Pink Plaisance arrived at Philadelphia, Johannes >Basst was listed as a child. We do >not know his exact age -- but we can conclude from the evidence about >William that he was born no later than >just 6 years after that arrival of Johannes, the child. This alone does >not rule Johannes OUT as father -- >But we can conclude that he was quite young to have been a father. The >word "child" on a ship's list seems to >have varying implications from list to list. There are those which include >as "children" all those under 16 - >We have no specifics on the age max of the children on that particular >ship. If Johannes was as old as say, >15, then he would have been around 21 at the time of William's birth -- IF >William was born as late as 1738. >(And we don't know that he wasn't born sooner. If Johannes was as young as >8 or 9, however -- and we don't >know that he wasn't, then we have a chronological improbability. (and you >can un-fancy that to this -- We >don't know that Johannes was old enough to have been the father of a child >born 1738 or before.)" > >Dave Long >Memphis, TN > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Mary Harkey Russell" <[email protected]> >To: "Bost list" <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, December 11, 2006 2:35 PM >Subject: [BOST] Susanna Katarina Moyer.- Elias Bost > > > > David Long, you gave Susanna Catharina a last name. Moyer. > > I never had her maiden name. Are we sure it was Moyer? > > I descend from Anna Maria Bost born abt 1746. She married Mark House. >They > > both died in Iredell Co. NC. > > Mary Harkey Russell > > [email protected] > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~bird > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in >the subject and the body of the message