Johannes Wilhelm, Sr.; ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: Re: [BOST] Wanted: Information about Jesse Bost, Sallie P. Bost,and their son M.E. Bost... > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: Germanna > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > On 22 Dec 2007, KPUSSER said: > >>The name of the first wife of Johannes Bast is unknown, >>although she and Johannes had two children, William and >>Anna Marie. > > Which "Johannes BAST"? Johannes Wilhelm, Sr.; Johannes Wilhelm, Jr.? > There were lots of Johannes and Johann and John BASTs > > I have an Anna Marie, whose father was Johann Wilhelm BAST, Sr. This > Johann also had a son Johannes "John" BAST. Is this the one you were > speaking of? > > I have several William BOST entries. More information would make it > easier to connect to what you are referring. > > Regards, > George W. Durman > > Important Note: > The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you > would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link > above and respond on the board. > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KPUSSER Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Hi cousin David, Have a Merry Christmas & a Great New Year. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: long1189 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: George, I have sent a few emails to you at the address in your signature. Please review and get back with me. Thanks, Dave Long Memphis, TN Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Germanna Surnames: BAST, BOST Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.3.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On 22 Dec 2007, KPUSSER said: >George, Both you and I know about German Lutheran naming >patterns, if his will names him as "Johannes Bast", and >he signs it as "Johannes Bast", that is sufficient for >me. Hello again Kent, Yes, you and I know about German naming patterns, but others may not know. I don't think it matters how he signs his name in his will -- his name in other "official" documents was "Johann Wilhelm". To put him into one's database as "Johannes" is misleading, and could cause many to be confused. He should have had the "Calling Name" of Wilhelm (or William in America), but for some reason he chose "Johannes". I think we'll never know WHY he wanted to be known as "Johannes". BTW, I have a German ancestor who had no middle name. His name was Johannes in all official documents in Germany. When he arrived in America, he was entered, first, in official records as "Johannes", then, eventually, as "John". Wasn't any ambuguity there. (GRIN) Keep in touch, George W. Durman [email protected] Knoxville, TN Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Germanna Surnames: BAST, BOST, KLEIN, CLINE, MOYER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.2.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On 22 Dec 2007, KPUSSER said: >Sorry George, I should have specified That I meant >Johannes BAST , who immigrated to North Carolina with his >wife and children in 1754 from PA. He was first married >in PA to an unknown, this union produced William and Anna >Marie Bast/Bost. Johannes next married Susannah >Katherine/Catherine Moyer, who is the mother of the rest >of the children of Johannes. >(snip) OK, Kent, that helps; however, the person to whom you refer, "Johannes BAST" actually was named "Johann Wilhelm BAST (Sr.)". It is unknown why he used the name "Johannes" in some official documents, since "Johannes" was ONLY used by Germans when they had no middle name. ????? His first wife was Mary KLEIN (CLINE). The second wife's name was Susannah Catharina/Katharina MOYER, although she evidently "went by" Catharina/Katharina/Catherine/Katherine. Seeing as how she was born in the early years of the 1700's in PA, from German immigrants, her actual name, as given by her parents, was probably Susanna Katharina, which would have been the German spelling. (Susanna was the German spelling, and Susannah was the English spelling.) I don't recall seeing any German given names for Catherine/Katherine beginning with a "C", it was always a "K", and Anglicized in America to a "C". Your "Elias" is actually "Johann Elias". Don't know if I've figured out our relationship before, but using my genealogy program (RootsMagic), I find that we are 6th Cousins, once removed. Regards, George W. Durman [email protected] Knoxville, TN Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KPUSSER Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.3.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: George, Both you and I know about German Lutheran naming patterns, if his will names him as "Johannes Bast", and he signs it as "Johannes Bast", that is sufficient for me. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Germanna Surnames: BAST, BOST, KLEIN, CLINE, MOYER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Yes, her name was Sarah Perlina. Her "nickname" was Sally or Sallie, and that nickname showed up in some official records. To be accurate, we should always put her into our databases as "Sarah", with a nickname of "Sally" or "Sallie". To enter her name as "Sally" or "Sallie" is inaccurate. Regards, George W. Durman [email protected] Knoxville, TN Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Germanna Surnames: BAST, BOST, KLEIN, CLINE, MOYER Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The "Johannes", born 1719/1720, was NOT "Johannes". He was Johann Wilhelm BAST, b. 26 Feb 1720, Keldung, Rhineland-Palatinate, GER; d.bef 13 Sep 1777 (his will was probated on that date). It is unknown WHY he signed his name "Johannes". The German custom was that if a "Johan/Johann/Johannes" didn't have a middle name, his first name was "Johannes"; if he DID have a middle name, his first name was Johann or Johan. This one DID have a middle name, "Wilhelm" (William). He married Mary KLEIN (AKA Mary CLINE) abt 1738 in PA. One child resulted from this marriage: Johann Wilhelm "William" BAST, Jr.. Mary died abt 1739 in PA. Johann Wilhelm then married Susannah Catharina MOYER in Bucks Co., PA (now Northampton Co., PA), abt 1739. >From this union, 11 children were born. I have done genealogy research on German families for decades and it always annoys me that other researchers ignore "first" names, and, often, use the Anglicized form of the "middle" name, rather than the actual name a person was given at birth, e.g., using "William" when the actual birth name was "Wilhelm", or using "John" when the actual birth name was Johannes or Johann. We may find Anglicized name variants in official records, but I've always been an advocate of using the actual "birth name", regardless of how the English scribes wrote it down. It just ensures accuracy and consistency. Just as an aside, in Germany the "first" name was NEVER used, unless the person had no middle name, which was very rare. The "first" name was the name of a religious figure, usually a Saint; the "middle" name was the name that a person was actually known as, i.e., his/her "Calling Name". Regards, George W. Durman [email protected] Knoxville, TN Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KPUSSER Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.2.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry George, I should have specified That I meant Johannes BAST , who immigrated to North Carolina with his wife and children in 1754 from PA. He was first married in PA to an unknown, this union produced William and Anna Marie Bast/Bost. Johannes next married Susannah Katherine/Catherine Moyer, who is the mother of the rest of the children of Johannes. Johannes Bast is my GGGGG-grandfather, his son Elias BOST, 1747-1822 is my GGGG-grandfather, William Bost, son of Elias, is my GGG-grandfather, Caroline Bost, daughter of William Bost and Elizabeth Shive, is my GG-grandmother, Lydia Hagler, daughter of Caroline Bost and Paul Hagler, is my great -grandmother, Wade Hampton Pusser, son of Lydia Hagler and Green C. Pusser, is my grandfather. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Germanna Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On 22 Nov 2006, Jeff Johnson said: >Well, i was hoping this Jesse Bost was the one in my >family, but i'm not sure. The 1880 census show: > >Household: > >Jessee BOST Self M Male W 78 NC Farmer NC NC >Sarah P. BOST Wife M Female W 65 NC Keeping House NC NC >Frances BOST Dau S Female W 21 NC At Home NC NC > >The census was taken in Catawba Co...is that where the >house is? My Jesse Bost, which i don't have a spouse or >children for, was said to have been born in Lincoln Co., >NC in 1804 and died in Catawba Co., NC in 1892. He was >the son/daughter of Elias Bost & Mary M Eichard. They >could be one in the same, but i can't verify that. Do you >have any idea if Jesse was still alive when he gave the >property to M.E? This is Jesse Witherspoon BOST; b.15 Feb 1804, Lincoln Co., NC; d.6 Jan 19892, Catawba Co., NC. He was born and died in the same place! The part of Lincoln Co., NC, in which he was born, became Catawba Co., NC, in 1842. As I have cautioned on other Rootsweb/Ancestry Mailing Lists and Message Boards, if one is to do genealogy research, it is helpful (nay, required) for one to do a little research/study of history/geography. There are several places on the Internet where one may look at "County Formations" for various states. I have made web pages for several states that show when/how counties were formed. If you want more info, just email me at [email protected] Jesse's wife was Sarah Perlina "Sally" WILSON; b.abt 1815, NC. The two children I have for Jesse and Sally are Frances and Matthew Alcana. BTW, the 1880 Census Report only says the location was "District 43". It might be difficult to find out exactly what area that District encompassed. Regards, George W. Durman Knoxville, TN Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Germanna Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On 22 Dec 2007, KPUSSER said: >The name of the first wife of Johannes Bast is unknown, >although she and Johannes had two children, William and >Anna Marie. Which "Johannes BAST"? Johannes Wilhelm, Sr.; Johannes Wilhelm, Jr.? There were lots of Johannes and Johann and John BASTs I have an Anna Marie, whose father was Johann Wilhelm BAST, Sr. This Johann also had a son Johannes "John" BAST. Is this the one you were speaking of? I have several William BOST entries. More information would make it easier to connect to what you are referring. Regards, George W. Durman Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KPUSSER Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The name of the first wife of Johannes Bast is unknown, although she and Johannes had two children, William and Anna Marie. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: youngsusan_1 Surnames: Bost Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/248/mb.ashx Message Board Post: My original name is Kathleen Bost, born Los Angeles, CA, 1967. I was adopted by wonderful folks. Looking for birth mother or father. Mothers maiden name was Bost. She was young and not married to my birth father. Non identifying information stated that her father (my grandfather) was in the Navy, divorced from her mother and her mother was re-married. If anyone can help, please email: [email protected] Thank you! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Germanna Surnames: BAST, BOST, KLEIN, CLINE, MOYER, WILKINSON, BROYLES, DURMAN Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On 2 Sept 2007, Janet said: >I have not read all replies to your note, yet, however >I noticed that you did not have the name of Johanne's >1st wife. > >Her name was Mary Klein or Cline. I have been told >that William was a child of Mary's. I don't know if >any others are or not. > >I, too, am off of Elias' line. My 5th gr grandfather >was his son, Jonathan Bost. > >I was in Catawba Co. this summer, and never did find >the Bost houses. Do you have a photo of the Elias >Bost house? Or know where one may be online? >Thanks, >Janet >from Texas Hello Janet, You are correct in that Johann Wilhelm BAST, Sr.'s, first wife was Mary KLEIN (also found on some documents as Mary CLINE) and that Johann Wilhelm (William) BAST, Jr., was the child of Mary and Johann. I think William (Jr.) must have been born around 1738 and that Mary must have died shortly thereafter, because Johann (Sr.) remarried to Susannah Catharina MOYER about 1939. She is the mother of all the other 11 children of Johann (Sr.). When you say you descend from Elias, do you mean Johann Elias BAST, born 1747, from the 2nd wife; or John Elias BOST, born 1772, the son of Johann Wilhelm (William) BAST, Jr., from the 1st wife; or John Elias BOST'S son, Elias BOST, born about 1815? Whatever the case, I would love to have your data to add to my personal database if you could send to me via email ([email protected]) I would greatly appreciae it. My BAST/BOST connections are that my g-g-grandfather, John P. WILKINSON, married Frances Mahala BOST. Frances' descent is thus: Johannes Wilhelm BAST, Sr. (b.1720) ..Johannes ? (John) BAST, Sr. (b.1743)(from 2nd wife, ..not "William", Jr., from 1st wife.) ....Conrad BOST (b.1774) ......Silas BOST (b.1808) ........Frances Mahala BOST (b.1840) ..........William Wallace WILKINSON, Sr. (b.1869) ............Lenora WILKINSON (b.1897) ..............Mary Frances BROYLES (b.1921) ................Me (b.1938) Regards, George W. Durman [email protected] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jcsaylor_1 Surnames: Bost, Forney, Bolick Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have not read all replies to your note, yet, however I noticed that you did not have the name of Johanne's 1st wife. Her name was Mary Klein or Cline. I have been told that William was a child of Mary's. I don't know if any others are or not. I, too, am off of Elias' line. My 5th gr grandfather was his son, Jonathan Bost. I was in Catawba Co. this summer, and never did find the Bost houses. Do you have a photo of the Elias Bost house? Or know where one may be online? Thanks, Janet from Texas Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: holb001 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/245.1.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am descendent of the people you mentioned in the OP. I left my email address on your website. Thanks Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

Hello Payne, No. I'm the Admin for about 3 dozen Mailing Lists and have seen any indication that there was any censoring going on. That is, beyond that which is understandable, e.g., posting commercial information, starting "flame wars", off-topic postings, etc., and that is only after the fact. Do you have any specific clues that this might be happening? Regards, George At 7/24/2007 02:23 PM Tuesday, Payne Daniel wrote: *********START OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT********* >Has anyone on this List gotten the impression that Rootsweb was censoring >them? **********END OF ORIGINAL MESSAGE TEXT***********

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Scott, I don't have the matches you seek in my data base. I am forwarding this to the Bost-List to see if they can help us. Happy hunting. Payne ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 5:05 PM Subject: Louise Bost I am trying to locate information about a Louise or Louis Bost (my grandmother) who had two children, my mother - Frances Elizabeth Smith (b. 5/26/26) & Florence Smith (b. around 1920) with Francis DuVal "George" Smith: They lived in and around Greensboro, NC and Winston-Salem, NC. I am not sure if they were ever married. I assume Louise Bost was born somewhere 1900. Thank you for any assistance. Scott Lacefield Bard Manufacturing Company 2420 Cumberland Dr Smyrna, GA 30080 Ph: 770-435-2523 Mobile: 770-329-8658 Fax: 770-319-7310 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ See what's free at AOL.com.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: KPUSSER Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.bost/78.86.92.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: George, I don't know how my reply got bounced to you? I was replying to a rather old message posted by a Thomas Bost. Thomas Bost appears to be the nom de plume of a "Delene". From what I have learned, our ancestor, Johannes Bast was the last to use the original Bast name, however his children by his 2nd wife, Susanna Catharina Moyer, were baptised as "Basts", as was your ancestor, Johannes Bast, born 8/23/1743, baptised 10/1743, and my ancestor, Elias Bast, born 6/24/1747, baptised 7/12/1747. it appears the children went on to use "BOST", as that is how they appear in subsequent records. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.