This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/VJF.2ACEB/94.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Johanne's birth date is correct. But the birth date you have listed for Barbara 13 Sept 1870 is his date of death. Her's should state b. 26 July 1816 - d.8 Nov. 1884. I did find in the 1850 census John & Barbara,45 & 34), having Jacob,14, John,12, Samuel,10, Catheren,8, Ephreham,6, George,5, Mary,4 and Adam,2. Living in Marlborough Township. Which is all six of the boys listed in her obit., but still didn't have the third daughter.