Thanks Herb for speaking up with your thoughts as a participant of the DNA testing. John, Until I insisted on pioneering the Bushong DNA testing, everyone had their lineages all tied up in a neat little bow, not taking into consideration several factors: Lack of early documentation, affairs and adoption. A lot has been discovered as a result of the Bushong Project. Don't ever think that leaving anyone out of the testing from any one lineage, concludes that they are Bushongs by blood, because they just might not be, as we have already discovered. We have 4 participants with their last name spelled Bushong who are not Bushongs by blood. I might add that 3 of these 4 are ALL from the "Andreas" lineage. The other fellow, I have no idea what lineage he is from as the trail goes cold in Washington State. So I would say there is a big problem in the Andreas lineage. How many more could there be? Only more testing can answer that question and I would think that every Bushong would want to know for sure whether he is a Bushong by blood or adoption, as it is important, if you want to join a lineage group such as DAR, SAR, Colonial Dames, etc. I am willing to do some work on the lineages of those already tested but I will not give out the names of the participants and I will not start with the original immigrants since there is too much difference of opinion on the number of immigrants and exactly which way they are related to each other. It is very important to have ALL Bushongs tested not just a few. If you are familiar with the Steps, then you know how important they are, and not all of the Bushongs tested so far, match each other in the same Steps even from the same supposed immigrant. Also those that match others (not in the Bushong project) from other projects, don't even match the same people in the first 12 markers. I may need some help since I am not even sure of some of the lineages. I may have to make a few phone calls, so I will have to get back to you. Those of you who are in communication with Rick, you tell him that I don't want to see any DNA reports on his sites about the DNA results as he is not the spokesman for this project and it would be fool hardy, misleading and jumping to conclusions about knowledge he does not have. He is not the co-administrator for obvious reasons, and doesn't have access to the participant's results. I regret that I even granted Rick the privilege that no one else's participant's family has of seeing the results. His father was the only one that should have had that privilege. To clear up one more thing that I was accused by Rick, lying in my Report, Yes, Rick did ask to be co-administrator but after all the harassment, attacks and insults publicly and behind the scenes on my character and my researching skills, with absolutely no remorse or apology, do you really think I would allow him to be my co-administrator? Would you? I think not. Gloria ---------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: John Fahey <faheyjn@gmail.com> To: boschong <boschong@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 2:28 pm Subject: Re: [BOSCHONG] DNA questionaire by a Non-participant of the Bushong project and some BIG NEWS! Gloria, It would be more helpful to all, those taking the test, those thinkingabout doing the test, and those researchers that can't take the test, ifthe last three to five generations of known ancestors were given on Answer#2 below for each individual participant. That way it can be determinedwhether an individual line has already been tested or not. I'm fortesting, but we don't need to over test. Additional DNA testing is onlyneeded if it serves to give us additional information that we currentlydon't have. For example: 5. Andreas Bushong, George Bushong (Martha Davis), George Bushong(Nancy Parker) 6. Andreas Bushong, John Bushong Sr (Jannet Young/Summers), John BushongJr (Eleanor Rush)... 9. Andreas Bushong, George Bushong (Lydia Rush), James Bushong (DrusillaStout), James Wilson Bushong (differs from the other Bushongs tested -matches some Mitchells that have been tested)10. Andreas Bushong, George Bushong (Lydia Rush), James Bushong (DrusillaStout), Joseph Hill Bushong (differs from the other Bushongs tested -matches some Mitchells that have been tested) Thanks,John Fahey