Good Afternoon Boschong Subscribers, I hope everyone is enjoying their day. I received the following questionnaire a few days ago from someone who did not participate in the Bushong DNA project and has been a constant critic. -------------------------------- Mrs. Bushong, As the administrator of the Bushong DNA Project, I'm sure you're aware that there are many questions that the Bushong research community has about the project. Can you take a moment and address these few questions for those interested? MY ANSWER: Sure I will. It is so nice that the Bushong research community is so interested in this little ole project. Some have a funny way of showing it though. :) ----------------------------------- QUESTION 1. First, can you please tell us how many Bushong/Bushon named members are there in the project? Are results available for all of them? MY ANSWER: Silly question as that was answered on the 1st of May 2013 on the BOSCHONG and the BUSHONG Lists. Did you miss that? Check the Archives. Of course all can see results to THEIR matches on DNA on the familytreedna website by logging in with their password. That's already been explained on the 1st of May 2013. Did you miss that one too? Check the Archives. Anyone can call me and I will be more then happy to log in to the Administrative site and go over ALL of the results with them over the telephone including those that don't match them. My telephone number is easy to find on the Reunion website. ----------------------------------- QUESTION 2. For all that have been tested and are associated with the Bushong/Bushon Colonial immigrants, could you please list four generations (from the original immigrant)? MY ANSWER: Why my goodness, I cannot believe that you would ask me to do that since that is not following Genealogical Protocol Standards (GPS). You never start at the immigrant. Of the 13 men who have participated here are the their known ancestor: 1. Bosang descendant not a Bushong 2. John Bushong married to Elizabeth Sprinkle 3. William Alexander Bushong 4. Henry Bushong and Barbara Lohr 5. Andreas Bushong 6. Andreas Bushong 7. Andreas Bushong 8. Henry Bushong married to Barbara Lohr 9. Unknown Mitchell ancestor 10. Unknown Mitchell ancestor 11. Unknown Sisk ancestor 12. Andreas Bushong 13. Unidentified surname neither Bushong, Mitchell or Sisk ------------------------------------- QUESTION 3. The Canadian Bushong line that immigrated from Nova Scotia has been mentioned before, are they currently being tested? Is their family religion still Catholic or have they changed to Protestant as the original immigrants were? MY ANSWER: As of right now, no, as I have no way of contacting the Canadian people. I have Googled telephone books and searched but no spelling of the name comes up. If you have a way of contacting them and are so interested, why aren't YOU trying to contact them to tell them about the project instead of constantly berating me and presenting a stumbling block to the project? ------------------------------------- QUESTION 4. What about the Bushong/Bushon of African descent? Are there any potential candidates for DNA testing? How many have been contacted? MY ANSWER: I do not have powers to be able to distinguish the color of a person skin by their name. Do you? I even contacted Dr. Henry Gates but he was not interested in helping out. I contacted the Highland and Clinton County Ohio Genealogical Society in case someone walked in that might be a candidate and I sent my African American research to the Tennessee Archives. It might be noted that I am aware that the questioner knows someone who could be a potential candidate but that questioner refuses to be cooperative in giving me the contact and helping with this project, so there it is. Another stumbling block and hindrance to the project by his choice. I ask anyone out there with knowledge of an African American candidate, please contact me with details or contact them yourself, give them the information on the Bushong DNA project on how to participate. I would so appreciate it. Criticism gets us no where, only cooperation will be acceptable. --------------------------------------- QUESTION 5. Since the Bushong/Bushon name before being Anglicized was spelled Boschung, are they being located and has the well known Boschung family in Alabama been contacted? Are they going to be tested and is their family religion Protestant as the original immigrants were or Catholic? MY ANSWER: Well yes as a matter of fact I have contacted someone from Alabama who is willing and will take part next month. (June) Good grief. I did not ask their religious affiliation. Who cares about what religion they are. That is so totally irrelevant. DNA will tell the relationship if there is one, not the religion. ----------------------------------- QUESTION 6. Why doesn't the Bushong DNA Project have a website? Didn't you promise your daughter would make one? With the free web space provided, by FTDNA, wouldn't that be a good way to attract new project members, as well as post new findings? MY ANSWER: We don't need a public website that every Tom, Dick, and Harry can look at and there is already one set up in the project to view results for those participants. We have the Boschong and Bushong Lists to give the Bushong research community any results. My daughter is too busy to be involved. She created the Bushong Reunion website back in 2004 and I pay the fees every year to maintain that website. As far as I know the questioner is the only one insisting on a public website, for what purpose and motivation, I do not know, and it must be pointed out once again that this questioner isn't even a DNA participant so he has no say! The consensus of the actual participants is that it will not be made public and I will abide by those wishes. Constant criticism, bullying and harassment will not change that. Enough is enough. It is hindering the project and research. As far as the anonymity issue with the Mitchell DNA, I would like to point out that it was NOT me who made it public. It was first announced on this BOSCHONG List back in November 2012 when my computer wasn't even up and running and I was not posting. I was off of the Internet for 5 months. A descendant of James Bushong and Drusilla Stout was tested and his DNA did not match the Bushong DNA. The sister of the participant, announced on this List in November this information and I was as shocked as everyone else since number one, I did not know that her brother was even being tested, and when those results were released only though the List, did I find out about this. I did post in January 2013 about the need to have further testing on the Ohio Bushongs. So I want to hear no more of this nonsense about me being the one that "blew the whistle" and ruined the anonymity of the descendants of James Bushong and Drusilla Stout. And as far as the Mitchell DNA website and the two Bushongs who test Mitchell DNA and show up on that Mitchell site, the lab in Houston put them in that project, not me. --------------------------------------- QUESTION 7. Mrs. Bushong, when FTDNA recommends more than one administrator, how can you justify not having others and wouldn't you think it's important to have at least one administrator born a Bushong? MY ANSWER: Why yes, of course, it is important and I have always felt that there needed to be someone else working with me and it would have been nice to have someone all along with the same mind-set but up until this point, NO ONE had ever contacted me to volunteer as a co-administrator. :) If you recall, no one even stepped forth to be Administrator yet alone a co-administrator! BIG ANNOUNCEMENT I actually had been working behind the scenes for sometime finding a co-administrator. I can now announce publicly that I have TWO co-administrators. They are not volunteers, I actively recruited them. These two are blood Bushongs. One is in their 30s, has a marketing degree, and is a direct descendant of Jacob Bushong and Sarah Strickler. The other one is a direct descendant of John Bushong and Elizabeth Sprinkle and is quite knowledgeable about the DNA. I am considering asking one other person, but if I do, that will come much later. --------------------------------------- QUESTION 8. You've cited privacy for excluding the Bushong research community from the project and its original data, but with numerous experts all agreeing, aside from genealogical data, a 37 or even a 67 marker DNA analysis reveals nothing about an individual, how can privacy still be a legitimate concern? MY ANSWER: The Bushong research community has direct access to me all the time as I have said above and anyone who wants more information can call me directly and I will be more then happy to discuss the results with them. The decision of the actual participants is to remain private with only a password to gain access to the Project and that is the way it will remain. The questioner is NOT a participant, and is working under false pretenses, thus has no say. Have you ever considered that in this day and age it is so easy for someone to hack into a website and steal information? If you have the kit numbers, then you can get the names of those people who supplied the DNA. We are protecting our participants whether you like it or not. ------------------------------- Gloria Neiger Bushong Administrator of the Bushong DNA Project

Gloria, It would be more helpful to all, those taking the test, those thinking about doing the test, and those researchers that can't take the test, if the last three to five generations of known ancestors were given on Answer #2 below for each individual participant. That way it can be determined whether an individual line has already been tested or not. I'm for testing, but we don't need to over test. Additional DNA testing is only needed if it serves to give us additional information that we currently don't have. For example: 5. Andreas Bushong, George Bushong (Martha Davis), George Bushong (Nancy Parker) 6. Andreas Bushong, John Bushong Sr (Jannet Young/Summers), John Bushong Jr (Eleanor Rush) ... 9. Andreas Bushong, George Bushong (Lydia Rush), James Bushong (Drusilla Stout), James Wilson Bushong (differs from the other Bushongs tested - matches some Mitchells that have been tested) 10. Andreas Bushong, George Bushong (Lydia Rush), James Bushong (Drusilla Stout), Joseph Hill Bushong (differs from the other Bushongs tested - matches some Mitchells that have been tested) Thanks, John Fahey On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Russell Bushong <chochoruss@aol.com> wrote: > ----------------------------------- > QUESTION 2. For all that have been tested and are associated with > the Bushong/Bushon Colonial immigrants, could you please list four > generations (from the original immigrant)? > > MY ANSWER: > > Why my goodness, I cannot believe that you would ask me to do that since > that is not following Genealogical Protocol Standards (GPS). You never > start at the immigrant. > > Of the 13 men who have participated here are the their known ancestor: > > 1. Bosang descendant not a Bushong > 2. John Bushong married to Elizabeth Sprinkle > 3. William Alexander Bushong > 4. Henry Bushong and Barbara Lohr > 5. Andreas Bushong > 6. Andreas Bushong > 7. Andreas Bushong > 8. Henry Bushong married to Barbara Lohr > 9. Unknown Mitchell ancestor > 10. Unknown Mitchell ancestor > 11. Unknown Sisk ancestor > 12. Andreas Bushong > 13. Unidentified surname neither Bushong, Mitchell or Sisk > ------------------------------------- >

John, I partially agree with, both, your concerns and comments. As shown by recent tests, there was a break about three or four generations back. So even though Andreas descendents had been tested before, a break was found by having more test participants. As the administrator has shown, on this list, some of the recent test participants have yet to provide or document their lineage more than three generations. However, Anyone wanting to participating in the DNA testing should contact the administrator of the Bushong DNA project (which just happens to be the administrator of this site) and discuss whether a close relative has already had a test and decide if their DNA test may or may not provide additional Diversity. I do not discourage anyone wanting to test as I have always agreed with the importance of the confidential DNA project. Herb -----Original Message----- From: John Fahey <faheyjn@gmail.com> To: boschong <boschong@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 2:28 pm Subject: Re: [BOSCHONG] DNA questionaire by a Non-participant of the Bushong project and some BIG NEWS! Gloria, It would be more helpful to all, those taking the test, those thinking about doing the test, and those researchers that can't take the test, if the last three to five generations of known ancestors were given on Answer #2 below for each individual participant. That way it can be determined whether an individual line has already been tested or not. I'm for testing, but we don't need to over test. Additional DNA testing is only needed if it serves to give us additional information that we currently don't have. For example: 5. Andreas Bushong, George Bushong (Martha Davis), George Bushong (Nancy Parker) 6. Andreas Bushong, John Bushong Sr (Jannet Young/Summers), John Bushong Jr (Eleanor Rush) ... 9. Andreas Bushong, George Bushong (Lydia Rush), James Bushong (Drusilla Stout), James Wilson Bushong (differs from the other Bushongs tested - matches some Mitchells that have been tested) 10. Andreas Bushong, George Bushong (Lydia Rush), James Bushong (Drusilla Stout), Joseph Hill Bushong (differs from the other Bushongs tested - matches some Mitchells that have been tested) Thanks, John Fahey On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Russell Bushong <chochoruss@aol.com> wrote: > ----------------------------------- > QUESTION 2. For all that have been tested and are associated with > the Bushong/Bushon Colonial immigrants, could you please list four > generations (from the original immigrant)? > > MY ANSWER: > > Why my goodness, I cannot believe that you would ask me to do that since > that is not following Genealogical Protocol Standards (GPS). You never > start at the immigrant. > > Of the 13 men who have participated here are the their known ancestor: > > 1. Bosang descendant not a Bushong > 2. John Bushong married to Elizabeth Sprinkle > 3. William Alexander Bushong > 4. Henry Bushong and Barbara Lohr > 5. Andreas Bushong > 6. Andreas Bushong > 7. Andreas Bushong > 8. Henry Bushong married to Barbara Lohr > 9. Unknown Mitchell ancestor > 10. Unknown Mitchell ancestor > 11. Unknown Sisk ancestor > 12. Andreas Bushong > 13. Unidentified surname neither Bushong, Mitchell or Sisk > ------------------------------------- > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BOSCHONG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message