Dear Carlma, Shipping lists are available from Australia to NZ, if that's any use to you. I've found that lots of Scots surprisingly travelled to Liverpool to embark, as that's where the cheap fares were, so be careful. Also lots travelled via USA, but that may not apply as you have the story of the brother who disembarked in Oz. Good luck, Judy -----Original Message----- From: John & Carlma Skinner [mailto:skinner@flat.net.nz] Sent: Monday, 2 October 2000 5:21 PM To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: JOHNSTONE/HALL Hi My GGrandfather, John Hall JOHNSTONE, travelled to New Zealand in the mid-1860's. Does anyone know of a Scottish site with passenger lists sailing from Scotland around that time, please? According to family hearsay, he may have travelled with a brother who 'got off' in Australia while John travelled on. He was born in Dumfries around 1843/44, father William, mother Mary (nee HALL) JOHNSTONE. Any help at all on this family would be very much appreciated. Thank you. Carlma New Zealand