please stop sending info to this address, thanks ---------- >From: BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com >To: BORDER-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: BORDER-D Digest V00 #265 >Date: Mon, Sep 18, 2000, 2:00 AM > >Content-Type: text/plain > >BORDER-D Digest Volume 00 : Issue 265 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Looking for ROOKS, MURRAY and ["Vivienne Simmons" <vivienne.simmo] > #2 RENTON / DICKSON [CBain39544@aol.com] > #3 BAIN/BONE from GREENLAW [CBain39544@aol.com] > #4 Ayton Cemetery ["Shirley Dumma" <sdumma@dccnet.com] > #5 Ayton Cemetery [Robert Herriot <rherriot@scu.edu.a] > #6 Middlemas [MacLeod <rie@tallships.ca>] > #7 Re: Ayton Cemetery [Lesley Robertson <l.a.robertson@st] > #8 Genealogy Sites ["Max & Doreen Layfield" <dormax@dn] > #9 RE: Bookshops ["Judy Hopkins" <judy_h@iprimus.com] > #10 Unidentified subject! ["Geoff Kelly" <geoffkelly@earthlin] > #11 Re: Ayton Cemetery ["Donna Sloboda" <dsloboda@home.com] > #12 Re: Ayton Cemetery ["Donna Sloboda" <dsloboda@home.com] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from BORDER-D, send a message to > > BORDER-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 08:58:07 -0700 >From: "Vivienne Simmons" <vivienne.simmons@cimtegration.com> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <003a01c020c0$13331b60$c208f6c7@mol.gov.on.ca> >Subject: Re: Looking for ROOKS, MURRAY and STEWART >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Thanks, Lesley. > >I will take your advice, but I'm hoping that someone will be able to find >them in the 1851 census index. I've been looking all over the place for >these people for so long that it would be wonderful to KNOW that they're to >be found in a particular census before I actually order the film. > >By the way, I forgot to say, in my earlier e-mail, that the name, ROOKS >often turns up as ROOK. Also, I believe that any ROOK or ROOKS found will >be related to William ROOKS. I know that he had a cousin, also named >William, who may have been in the same area. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lesley Robertson" <l.a.robertson@stm.tudelft.nl> >To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 1:04 AM >Subject: Re: Looking for ROOKS, MURRAY and STEWART > > >> > >> > I'm hoping very much that someone will be willing and able to discover >> these people in 1851. >> > >> If you have an LDS family history centre near you, they'll be able to get >> the census films for you and you can have the fun of searching yourself. >> It'll be a bit of a slog as the 1851 isn't generally indexed (apart from >the >> famous 2% sample) but all sorts of useful info can be gained from looking >at >> the neighbours (I found the next generation back on one line because they >> were living next door to the folk I was looking for!). >> Have fun, >> Lesley Robertson >> >> >> >> ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >> The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details. >> > >______________________________ >X-Message: #2 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 10:18:24 EDT >From: CBain39544@aol.com >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <80.c1cc2b.26f62cb0@aol.com> >Subject: RENTON / DICKSON >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Would love to fill in some holes in my charts. Any connections out there? >Thanks in advance, Chris Bain, Westwood, MA USA > >1. WILLIAM RENTON b. 1819 Edinburgh, Dalkeith, Scotland, d. Bef. 1896 >Scotland, m. 31 May 1846 St. Boswells, Roxburghshire, Scotland Janet Bain, b. >1825 Greenlaw, Scotland, d. 4 Oct 1896 Torwoodlee, Stow, Scotland, dau. of >William Bone/Bain and Elizabeth Rae. > >2. i. Robert Renton, b. 28 Sep 1846, St. Boswells, Roxburghshire, Scotland; >d. 9 Dec 1918, Dawson, South Australia. > ii. William B. Renton, b. 1850, Galashiels, Scotland. > iii. John Renton, b. 1851, St. Boswells, Roxburgh, Scotland. > iv. Peter Renton, b. 1851, St. Boswells, Roxburgh, Scotland. > v. Elizabeth Renton, b. 1853, Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland. > vi. Thomas Renton, b. Bef. 17 Apr 1856, Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland. > vii. Janet Renton, b. Bef. 15 Sep 1858, Ledgerwood, Berwickshire, >Scotland; m. John Purves, 31 Dec 1874, Swinton and Simpron, Berwickshire, >Scotland. > viii. George Renton, b. Bef. 30 Jan 1861, Lauder, Berwickshire, >Scotland. >3. ix. Margaret Renton, b. Bef. 5 Oct 1863, Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland. > x. Alexander Renton, b. Bef. 17 Mar 1865, Lauder, Berwickshire, Scotland. > >2nd generation > >3. MARGARET RENTON (WILLIAM1) b. Bef. 5 Oct 1863 in Lauder, Berwickshire, >Scotland, m. George Dickson 19 Mar 1872 in Swinton and Simpron, Berwickshire, >Scotland. > > I. WILLIAM DICKSON, b. 3 Apr 1873, Swinton And Simpron, Berwick, >Scotland. > ii. John Dickson, b. 25 Jul 1874, Swinton And Simpron, Berwick, Scotland > >______________________________ >X-Message: #3 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 10:31:10 EDT >From: CBain39544@aol.com >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <c5.947dadb.26f62fae@aol.com> >Subject: BAIN/BONE from GREENLAW >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Trying to find siblings of William2 or any information William1 and Janet >Turnbull. I suspect that William1 came from Ayr and Janet Turnbull was from >Greenlaw, but have no proof. I do know the following; William3 went to New >Zealand, Janet4 went to Australia, and the family Alexander5 came to the USA >after his death (this is my line). I have lots of info on these three. >Thanks in advance, Chris Bain, Westwood, MA USA > >1. WILLIAM BONE, m. 24 Jun 1791 Greenlaw, Berwick Scotland, JANET TURNBULL. > >2. i. WILLIAM BONE/BAIN, b. 1796, d. 6 Mar 1856. > >Generation No. 2 > >2. WILLIAM BONE/BAIN (William1), b. 1796 Greenlaw, Berwick Scotland, d. 6 >Mar 1856 Blackburn farm, Lauder, Scotland, m. 10 Nov 1815 Greenlaw, Berwick >Scotland, ELIZABETH RAE, b. 1790 Coldstream/Greenlaw Scotland, d. 25 Jan >1855 at Blackburn farm, Lauder, Scotland, dau. of ALEXANDER RAE and MARGARET. > > i. WILLIAM BAIN, b. 1817, d. 1817. >3. ii. WILLIAM BAIN, b. 1820, d. 3 July 1892 > iii. MARGARET BAIN, b. 1823. > iv. JANET BAIN, b. 1824, d. 1824. >4. v. JANET BAIN, b. 1825, d. 4 Oct 1896. >5. vi. ALEXANDER BAIN, b. 1827, d. 28 Dec 1860. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #4 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 10:52:02 -0700 >From: "Shirley Dumma" <sdumma@dccnet.com> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <002001c020cf$fbf488c0$2a9e05d1@pavilion> >Subject: Ayton Cemetery >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > >Donna Sloboda: >Would it be possible for you to check to see if there are any DUMMA's >listed in the book on inscriptions in the Ayton Cemetery? I would really >appreciate any info that you can give me. >I am going to the Genealogy Seminar in Abbotsford next month, maybe I'll >see you there. >Shirley Dumma >Madeira Park, B.C. Canada >sdumma@dccnet.com > >______________________________ >X-Message: #5 >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 06:25:57 +1000 >From: Robert Herriot <rherriot@scu.edu.au> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000918062557.006e37b0@pophost.scu.edu.au> >Subject: Ayton Cemetery >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Dear Donna, >I have noticed Shirley Dumma's request for information about the headstones >in Ayton cemetery. > >A further request if you would be good enough. My family are known to have >been tenents of Aytonlaw in the late 1700s and may well have sporned (if >that is the right word) the HERRIOT/HERIOT in Coldingham. > >I have a stonewall with a James HERRIOT tenent of Aytonlaw who died about >1832. > >Also, if anybody can provide HERRIOT, HERIOT or other variations, that >would be greatly appreciated. There are so many loose ends. > >Cheers form Rob, in Lismore, Australia >(only 800km north of the Olympics) > > >Donna Sloboda: >Would it be possible for you to check to see if there are any DUMMA's >listed in the book on inscriptions in the Ayton Cemetery? I would really >appreciate any info that you can give me. >I am going to the Genealogy Seminar in Abbotsford next month, maybe I'll >see you there. >Shirley Dumma >Madeira Park, B.C. Canada >sdumma@dccnet.com > > >==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #6 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 17:53:49 -0300 >From: MacLeod <rie@tallships.ca> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000917175349.007cb190@tallships.ca> >Subject: Middlemas >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >Does anyone have information on the following? > >George Middlemas (born Feb. 24, 1787), Stitchel, Roxburgh, Scotland, >(Father: George Middlemas and Isobel Brotherson ....who were married July >12, 1782, in Stitchel, Roxburgh.)? Is Stitchel near Kelso? Anyone with >connections of any sort? George , the son , and his brothers, Peter and >David, emigrated to Nova Scotia, Canada, in 1815. They were part of the >group of founding settlers to start a small rural community in the heart >of Nova Scotia with a true scottish name, Caledonia! > > I think that there must have been sisters left behind in Scotland. I >live in George Middlemas' original ancestral home in Nova Scotia. I am >very interested in researching this family in Scotland but don't know how >to go about this. I am keen but not experienced. Looking for direction. >Thanks. >Marie MacLeod, Nova Scotia, Canada > >______________________________ >X-Message: #7 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:52:53 +0200 >From: Lesley Robertson <l.a.robertson@stm.tudelft.nl> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-id: <000901c020e9$4095c5c0$47505e91@client> >Subject: Re: Ayton Cemetery >Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit > >> >> Also, if anybody can provide HERRIOT, HERIOT or other variations, that >> would be greatly appreciated. There are so many loose ends. >> >There are a few Herriots - plus a farm of that name - in Whitsome, >Berwickshire. Want them? Let me know. >Lesley Robertson > >______________________________ >X-Message: #8 >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 08:02:55 +1000 >From: "Max & Doreen Layfield" <dormax@dnet.aunz.com> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <009d01c020f3$0a572940$3f132ecb@computer> >Subject: Genealogy Sites >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Here is a great site for Genealogy > >with links to many places > >http://www.attgendept.nsw.gov.au/bdm/links.html > >Max In Oz. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #9 >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 11:09:20 +1000 >From: "Judy Hopkins" <judy_h@iprimus.com.au> >To: "Bruce Glass" <Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.nz>, <BORDER-D@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <NCBBKPOAAKPGNGLGLJCFEEOOCDAA.judy_h@iprimus.com.au> >Subject: RE: Bookshops >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="us-ascii" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Dear Bruce, >We have just arrived home from two months in the UK. I saw the book called >the Border Reivers in a second hand bookshop in Wooler, but don't know the >name of the shop. The man wasn't at all helpful when I asked about a family >history section I don't think he liked his job at all. >I've had good success finding second hand books using www.abebooks.com >Best wishes, >Judy > >-----Original Message----- >From: Bruce Glass [mailto:Bruce.Glass@xtra.co.nz] >Sent: Sunday, 17 September 2000 12:52 PM >To: BORDER-D@rootsweb.com; GRAHAM-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: Bookshops > > >Hi Listers, does anyone know of any book-shops in the Carlisle area of >Cumbria, England that specialises in re-prints of old books on genealogy >and history of Border families. > >I am trying to obtain, in particular, "Condition of the Border at the >Union" by John Graham. > >Scotpress in America have it but I can't get any response from them (I >have tried four E-Mails over two months). > >Other books that Scotpress have that I could be interested in are > The Border Clans > The Border Reivers > Brief History of the Marches > >I am unsure of the authors of thesebut they are all re-prints of old >books. > >Also has anyone had any involvrement with The Cumberland and >Westmoreland Antiquarian and Archaelogical Society (CWAAS). I have been >E-Mailing them for several months and have written to their secretary >but without any reponse. I was going to become a member of their society >as it would appear they have a good supply of historical material on >border families. > >It seems that no one wishes to have dealings with antipodean >researchers. > >Best regards from New Zealand, Bruce Glass > >______________________________ > >______________________________ >X-Message: #10 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 21:42:45 -0700 >From: "Geoff Kelly" <geoffkelly@earthlink.net> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <412000911844245290@earthlink.net> >Subject: >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > >Hello: > >I suspect a previous message might not have made it so I'm giving this >another go. I'm seeking information on Juliet Francis (spelling believed to >be correct) Bell, born Jefferson County, Kentucky, around 1890. Family >believed to have been relocated from Border area to Ireland and thence to >U.S.A., possibly debarking in North Carolina. > >Thank you > > >Geoff Kelly >geoffkelly@earthlink.net > >______________________________ >X-Message: #11 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:02:48 -0700 >From: "Donna Sloboda" <dsloboda@home.com> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <000a01c0212d$b0e645e0$6c6b7318@abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com> >Subject: Re: Ayton Cemetery >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Sorry Shirley > >There are no Dumma's listed in Ayton's MIs. > >Good luck! > >Donna >----- Original Message ----- >From: Shirley Dumma <sdumma@dccnet.com> >To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 10:52 AM >Subject: Ayton Cemetery > > >> Donna Sloboda: >> Would it be possible for you to check to see if there are any DUMMA's >listed in the book on inscriptions in the Ayton Cemetery? I would really >appreciate any info that you can give me. >> I am going to the Genealogy Seminar in Abbotsford next month, maybe I'll >see you there. >> Shirley Dumma >> Madeira Park, B.C. Canada >> sdumma@dccnet.com >> >> >> ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >> The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details. >> > >______________________________ >X-Message: #12 >Date: Sun, 17 Sep 2000 22:18:19 -0700 >From: "Donna Sloboda" <dsloboda@home.com> >To: BORDER-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <001901c0212f$dbbdc340$6c6b7318@abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com> >Subject: Re: Ayton Cemetery >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Robert > >You're in luck. The two gravestones read: > >In memory of Catherine Herriot Bowhill only daughter of James Bowhill Ayton >and Eliza Home Herriot his wife born 17.2.1861 died 2.8.1861. Alexander >Thomson Herriot Bowhill their 2nd son born 18.4.1864 died 1.11.1875. The >above James Bowhill Banker Ayton born 6.11.1829 died 22.12.1890. The above >Eliza Home Herriot his widow born 16.1.1834 died 17.1.1911. Thomas Bowhill >their eldest son born 15.5.1859 died 27.8.1925 buried in Durban. James >William Bowhill their youngest son born 23.8.1868 died 19.1.1931 buried in >Grange Cemetary Edinburgh. Dr. Janet Adeline Agnes Sang died 16.3.1965. >Alexander Herriot Bowhill 1893-1984 elder son of James William Bowhill. Ian >Home Bowhill 1903-1975 younger son of James William Bowhill. > >In memory of Arthur Shed Writer Silverknowe Ayton who died 2.6.1972 aged 92 >years also his wife Jane Herriot Doughty who died 12.12.1972 aged 91 years. > >I hope some of this is helpful. > >Sincerely > >Donna Lindores Sloboda >BC, Canada >----- Original Message ----- >From: Robert Herriot <rherriot@scu.edu.au> >To: <BORDER-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2000 1:25 PM >Subject: Ayton Cemetery > > >> Dear Donna, >> I have noticed Shirley Dumma's request for information about the >headstones >> in Ayton cemetery. >> >> A further request if you would be good enough. My family are known to >have >> been tenents of Aytonlaw in the late 1700s and may well have sporned (if >> that is the right word) the HERRIOT/HERIOT in Coldingham. >> >> I have a stonewall with a James HERRIOT tenent of Aytonlaw who died about >> 1832. >> >> Also, if anybody can provide HERRIOT, HERIOT or other variations, that >> would be greatly appreciated. There are so many loose ends. >> >> Cheers form Rob, in Lismore, Australia >> (only 800km north of the Olympics) >> >> >> Donna Sloboda: >> Would it be possible for you to check to see if there are any DUMMA's >> listed in the book on inscriptions in the Ayton Cemetery? I would really >> appreciate any info that you can give me. >> I am going to the Genealogy Seminar in Abbotsford next month, maybe I'll >> see you there. >> Shirley Dumma >> Madeira Park, B.C. Canada >> sdumma@dccnet.com >> >> >> ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >> The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details. >> >> >> >> ==== BORDER Mailing List ==== >> The Border Names Newsletter contact boglelodge@yahoo.com for details. >> >