I have found that a lot of the are missing for Roxburgh and Selkirk. Try http://www.vivdunstan.clara.net/genuki/ROX/ for info on Lillislief. From the Online IGI I found you what is likely Roberts's marriage and some of James siblings. If you have access to a Family History Centre I recommend you try the Scottish Church Records CD. From my understanding of Scottish Origins if you don't type in the name exactly right you won't find anything. The Scottish Church Records CD is much more forgiving. (It could just be listed under a different spelling, or just not exist (Lots of mine from Roxburgh and Selkirk don't). Robert BROWN Sex: M Spouse: Helen DUNLOP Marriage: 5 Jan 1839 Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland Batch M117787 2. Thomas BROWN - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Christening: 21 Apr 1839 Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland 3. Hellen BROWN - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 25 Apr 1856 Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland 4. Scott BROWN - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 7 Oct 1859 Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland Dwelling: Maisondieu Cottage Census Place: Kelso, Roxburgh, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224041 GRO Ref Volume 793 EnumDist 1 Page 1 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Thomas BROWN M 40 M Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Roadman Jane BROWN M 45 F Yarrow, Selkirk, Scotland Rel: Wife Occ: Roadman Wife Robert BROWN U 16 M Kirkhope, Selkirk, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Gen Lab George BROWN 12 M Ancrum, Roxburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar William BROWN 7 M Roxburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Scholar Children of Thomas Brown and Jane Johnstone 1. Barbara BROWN - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 15 Jun 1866 Melrose, Roxburgh, Scotland 2. George BROWN - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 30 Sep 1868 Ancrum, Roxburgh, Scotland 3. William BROWN - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 27 Dec 1873 Roxburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland 4. Ellen BROWN - International Genealogical Index Gender: F Birth: 24 Jan 1862 Yarrow, Selkirk, Scotland 5. Robert BROWN - International Genealogical Index Gender: M Birth: 2 Jul 1864 Kirkhope, Selkirk, Scotland Barbara is with her Grandparents Dwelling: 109 Wood St Census Place: Galashiels, Selkirk, Scotland Source: FHL Film 0224036 GRO Ref Volume 775 EnumDist 10 Page 35 Marr Age Sex Birthplace Robert BROWN M 63 M Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Road Man Ellen BROWN M 62 F Selkirk, Selkirk, Scotland Rel: Wife William BROWN U 20 M Liliesleaf, Roxburgh, Scotland Rel: Son Occ: Roadman Barbara BROWN 15 F Darnick, Roxburgh, Scotland Rel: Grand Daur Williams birth does not show up which is Odd, I searched by Batch number and first names and all sorts of variations. Maybe he just did not get registered. I would try earlier Census records and track the family back that way. I hope some of this is useful Sheila I Hale Jean Duff wrote: > > Hi Listers > > According to the 1881 census my ancestor was born in Lilliesleaf 1853 is this in Roxburghshire? According to our family bible James Brown was born in January 1853 (no day) to RObert Brown & Helen Dunlop but I cannot find him in the Scottish Origins Database. Have tried the year before and year after no luck. I can find his marriage in 1878 and have all the details but I am interested in finding him to get his parents details. ANyone got any suggestions. > > I am coming to Scotland in January from sunny Australia and want to visit the borders area hence asking where is LIlliesleaf > > Thanks > > Jean Duff > > Signup for your free Virtual Countries E-mail address at http://www.scotland.com