On Sunday 26 November 2006 9:54 am, Eleanor Clouter wrote: > Hi, > > I'm still trying to track down the origins of my LIETCH family which I > think is in the Berwick Upon Tweed border area. I've had some wonderful > help from this list and hope I can prevail on listers once again for > assistance. > > My 4x gt grandfather, Rev William LIETCH, had a sister by the name of > Isabel/Isabella. Her 1852 death notice in the 'North and South Shields > Gazette' stated she was widow of Mr James HARDY, manufacturer, Kelso. > > Someone gave me the following from IGI: > > I have found > > a marriage on the I.G.I. for an Isabella Leach to James Hardie on 28 > > April 1811 at Kelso,Roxburgh,Scotland > > Where can I get a copy of this marriage record? Does anyone know if it > would state the name of the bride's parents? I'm hoping this might turn > out to be the documentation I need to reveal the parentage of my LIETCH > ancestor. Did you look up this record in the IGI? I was able to call it up quite easily from the FamilySearch main search screen at http://familysearch.org by just putting in Isabella's name and noting that I wanted her marriage in 1811. Once you get to her marriage record, you will notice at the bottom a number of links: Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M117937 1597 - 1819 1067946 Film 6901384 Film Sheet: 00 You can do some interested stuff with the Batch #, but the Source Call # gets you: Film or fiche number: 1067946 Film/fiche search results Parish registers, 1597-1854 Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Kelso So now you know what you need to order from your local FHC. And there is more info available right there on the website too. Click the film name, and then film notes, and you will see: Title Parish registers, 1597-1854 Authors Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Kelso (Main Author) Note Location Film Baptisms, 1745-1820 Marriages, 1597-1819 Burials, 1614-1660 FHL BRITISH Film 1067946 Baptisms, 1820-1854 Marriages, 1693-1698, 1820-1854 Burials, 1798-1813, 1836-1839 Neglected Birth Entry, 1848 FHL BRITISH Film 1067947 Items 1-3 Births, 1598-1745 FHL BRITISH Film 1067945 Items 2-3 Another filming, 1951. VAULT BRITISH Film 102293-102295 So you may want to check out these other films too. Usually the indexed baptisms and marriage information are part of the IGI. If you have searched the IGI without success for your person of interest, searching the Old Parish Register (OPR) indexes and OPRs themselves is still useful, in case they were missed. Baptisms and marriages in the OPRs can be searched using a computerized index, either on a county basis or searching over the whole country. The index gives the reference number for the relevant microfilm roll together with the frame number (page), allowing you to go straight to the record you are interested in, once you order in the OPR film. You can access the Old Parish Registers online, by opening an account at http://www.scotsorigins.com/. However, you must find the record you want in the IGI first, then pay them to transcribe the record. Scotland's People has an index of Scottish births 1553-1903, marriages 1553-1928, deaths 1855-1953, and indexed census data 1881-1901. Again, you find your record in the indexes, then order a copy of the original record. Sometimes Scotland's People has records that were missed in the IGI, and thus not available through Scot's Origins. It only costs about $3.50 to order the OPR film you want to your local FHC. If you search the OPR yourself, you can find collateral relatives too. You can also consult the indexes to baptisms and marriages on microfiche and CD-ROM in the FHC. Be aware that the computerized versions are merely indexes, and you should always consult the film of the OPRs themselves. The birth/baptism/christening index usually contain the individual's name, parent's name, event, date of event, parish, county, and film reference numbers. The marriage index usually contains the husband and wife's name, date of marriage, parish and county, and reference numbers. From the reference number you can order the microfilm which may or may not contain more information. The OPRs vary widely in quality and completeness. For more information about using your local FHC, see: http://valoriez.blogspot.com/2004/07/your-local-family-history-center.html I hope this was helpful. Valorie

Hi, Valerie The Scottish Borders Archive & Local History Centre at Selkirk can supply you with a copy from the microfilm of entry in the Old Parish Records for Kelso. It might or might not give details of parents, as there was no standard form of entry. Contact them at archives@scotborders.gov.uk Susan -----Original Message----- From: border-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:border-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Valorie Zimmerman Sent: 26 November 2006 22:07 To: border@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [BORDER] Kelso Marriage 1811 - Isabel LIETCH On Sunday 26 November 2006 9:54 am, Eleanor Clouter wrote: > Hi, > > I'm still trying to track down the origins of my LIETCH family which I > think is in the Berwick Upon Tweed border area. I've had some wonderful > help from this list and hope I can prevail on listers once again for > assistance. > > My 4x gt grandfather, Rev William LIETCH, had a sister by the name of > Isabel/Isabella. Her 1852 death notice in the 'North and South Shields > Gazette' stated she was widow of Mr James HARDY, manufacturer, Kelso. > > Someone gave me the following from IGI: > > I have found > > a marriage on the I.G.I. for an Isabella Leach to James Hardie on 28 > > April 1811 at Kelso,Roxburgh,Scotland > > Where can I get a copy of this marriage record? Does anyone know if it > would state the name of the bride's parents? I'm hoping this might turn > out to be the documentation I need to reveal the parentage of my LIETCH > ancestor. Did you look up this record in the IGI? I was able to call it up quite easily from the FamilySearch main search screen at http://familysearch.org by just putting in Isabella's name and noting that I wanted her marriage in 1811. Once you get to her marriage record, you will notice at the bottom a number of links: Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M117937 1597 - 1819 1067946 Film 6901384 Film Sheet: 00 You can do some interested stuff with the Batch #, but the Source Call # gets you: Film or fiche number: 1067946 Film/fiche search results Parish registers, 1597-1854 Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Kelso So now you know what you need to order from your local FHC. And there is more info available right there on the website too. Click the film name, and then film notes, and you will see: Title Parish registers, 1597-1854 Authors Church of Scotland. Parish Church of Kelso (Main Author) Note Location Film Baptisms, 1745-1820 Marriages, 1597-1819 Burials, 1614-1660 FHL BRITISH Film 1067946 Baptisms, 1820-1854 Marriages, 1693-1698, 1820-1854 Burials, 1798-1813, 1836-1839 Neglected Birth Entry, 1848 FHL BRITISH Film 1067947 Items 1-3 Births, 1598-1745 FHL BRITISH Film 1067945 Items 2-3 Another filming, 1951. VAULT BRITISH Film 102293-102295 So you may want to check out these other films too. Usually the indexed baptisms and marriage information are part of the IGI. If you have searched the IGI without success for your person of interest, searching the Old Parish Register (OPR) indexes and OPRs themselves is still useful, in case they were missed. Baptisms and marriages in the OPRs can be searched using a computerized index, either on a county basis or searching over the whole country. The index gives the reference number for the relevant microfilm roll together with the frame number (page), allowing you to go straight to the record you are interested in, once you order in the OPR film. You can access the Old Parish Registers online, by opening an account at http://www.scotsorigins.com/. However, you must find the record you want in the IGI first, then pay them to transcribe the record. Scotland's People has an index of Scottish births 1553-1903, marriages 1553-1928, deaths 1855-1953, and indexed census data 1881-1901. Again, you find your record in the indexes, then order a copy of the original record. Sometimes Scotland's People has records that were missed in the IGI, and thus not available through Scot's Origins. It only costs about $3.50 to order the OPR film you want to your local FHC. If you search the OPR yourself, you can find collateral relatives too. You can also consult the indexes to baptisms and marriages on microfiche and CD-ROM in the FHC. Be aware that the computerized versions are merely indexes, and you should always consult the film of the OPRs themselves. The birth/baptism/christening index usually contain the individual's name, parent's name, event, date of event, parish, county, and film reference numbers. The marriage index usually contains the husband and wife's name, date of marriage, parish and county, and reference numbers. From the reference number you can order the microfilm which may or may not contain more information. The OPRs vary widely in quality and completeness. For more information about using your local FHC, see: http://valoriez.blogspot.com/2004/07/your-local-family-history-center.html I hope this was helpful. Valorie ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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