Templejmtemple@telefonica.net21/12/06 12:21 > I don't know if this adds anything to the situation, but I recall that > Scotlands' people had an amount of old documents from a Rutherfurd / > Rutherford family who seemed to be a wealthy and prominent land owning > family in the Camptown / Camphouse area (about 8 miles or so South of > Jedburgh) of Jedburgh parish in the late 1700's and early 1800's. > I was trying to trace Northumbrian TEMPLE family members of Elsdon parish > who moved to the Camphouse area about 1800 to farm when i came across these > Rutherfords who seemed to own the land around Camptown. > Mike Temple, Spain. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <jdoubt1@telus.net> > To: <border@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:01 AM > Subject: Re: [BORDER] RUTHERFORD 1700 TO 1950 > > >> Good to hear from you Arthur, >> No, I haven't found any more on the Rutherford's. I have been gradually >> going >> over all my families with the additional info that's now available on line >> and >> filling in a lot of blanks, but havent really done any more work on the >> Rutherford line. >> Happy Holidays! >> Jane-Ellen >> Quoting Arthur Rutherford <arthur.rutherford@tesco.net>: >> >>> Hello Margaret, >>> >>> We have been in contact before, but I wonder if you have unearthed any >>> connections to my RUTHERFORDS in JEDBURGH between 1725 and 1763 onwards ? >>> >>> The family I am researching is : >>> >>> ANDREW RUTHERFORD married to Isobel Scot about 1750 >>> Their children were all born at Hundhaughlee (Hunderlee today). >>> George 1752 >>> Walter 1754 >>> Andrew 1757 >>> Robert 1760 >>> Thomas 1763 >>> >>> Greetings for Christmas. >>> >>> Arthur Rutherford >>> Poole, Dorset, England. ============================================================================ Many thanks Mike. It was helpful to receive your message. I will follow it up but my ancestors in Scotland were weavers and probably never owned land ! Greetings for Christmas. Arthur Rutherford

Arthur, some of my ancestors were weavers / miners / farmers, all in the same generation and later generations became "coal owners", so it's always possible that yours also became more affluent as time went by, having said that --trying to find ancestors in Scotland in the 1700's is nigh impossible at times . Mike Temple, Spain. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arthur Rutherford" <arthur.rutherford@tesco.net> To: <border@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [BORDER] RUTHERFORD 1700 TO 1950 > Templejmtemple@telefonica.net21/12/06 12:21 > >> I don't know if this adds anything to the situation, but I recall that >> Scotlands' people had an amount of old documents from a Rutherfurd / >> Rutherford family who seemed to be a wealthy and prominent land owning >> family in the Camptown / Camphouse area (about 8 miles or so South of >> Jedburgh) of Jedburgh parish in the late 1700's and early 1800's. >> I was trying to trace Northumbrian TEMPLE family members of Elsdon >> parish >> who moved to the Camphouse area about 1800 to farm when i came across >> these >> Rutherfords who seemed to own the land around Camptown. >> Mike Temple, Spain. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <jdoubt1@telus.net> >> To: <border@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:01 AM >> Subject: Re: [BORDER] RUTHERFORD 1700 TO 1950 >> >> >>> Good to hear from you Arthur, >>> No, I haven't found any more on the Rutherford's. I have been gradually >>> going >>> over all my families with the additional info that's now available on >>> line >>> and >>> filling in a lot of blanks, but havent really done any more work on the >>> Rutherford line. >>> Happy Holidays! >>> Jane-Ellen >>> Quoting Arthur Rutherford <arthur.rutherford@tesco.net>: >>> >>>> Hello Margaret, >>>> >>>> We have been in contact before, but I wonder if you have unearthed any >>>> connections to my RUTHERFORDS in JEDBURGH between 1725 and 1763 onwards >>>> ? >>>> >>>> The family I am researching is : >>>> >>>> ANDREW RUTHERFORD married to Isobel Scot about 1750 >>>> Their children were all born at Hundhaughlee (Hunderlee today). >>>> George 1752 >>>> Walter 1754 >>>> Andrew 1757 >>>> Robert 1760 >>>> Thomas 1763 >>>> >>>> Greetings for Christmas. >>>> >>>> Arthur Rutherford >>>> Poole, Dorset, England. > ============================================================================ > Many thanks Mike. It was helpful to receive your message. I will follow > it > up but my ancestors in Scotland were weavers and probably never owned land > ! > > Greetings for Christmas. > > Arthur Rutherford > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > BORDER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.15.26/594 - Release Date: > 20/12/2006 15:54 > >

Templejmtemple@telefonica.net22/12/06 09:24 > Arthur, > some of my ancestors were weavers / miners / farmers, all in the > same generation and later generations became "coal owners", so it's always > possible that yours also became more affluent as time went by, having said > that --trying to find ancestors in Scotland in the 1700's is nigh impossible > at times . > Mike Temple, Spain. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Arthur Rutherford" <arthur.rutherford@tesco.net> > To: <border@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 7:27 AM > Subject: Re: [BORDER] RUTHERFORD 1700 TO 1950 > > >> Templejmtemple@telefonica.net21/12/06 12:21 >> >>> I don't know if this adds anything to the situation, but I recall that >>> Scotlands' people had an amount of old documents from a Rutherfurd / >>> Rutherford family who seemed to be a wealthy and prominent land owning >>> family in the Camptown / Camphouse area (about 8 miles or so South of >>> Jedburgh) of Jedburgh parish in the late 1700's and early 1800's. >>> I was trying to trace Northumbrian TEMPLE family members of Elsdon >>> parish >>> who moved to the Camphouse area about 1800 to farm when i came across >>> these >>> Rutherfords who seemed to own the land around Camptown. >>> Mike Temple, Spain. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: <jdoubt1@telus.net> >>> To: <border@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2006 4:01 AM >>> Subject: Re: [BORDER] RUTHERFORD 1700 TO 1950 >>> >>> >>>> Good to hear from you Arthur, >>>> No, I haven't found any more on the Rutherford's. I have been gradually >>>> going >>>> over all my families with the additional info that's now available on >>>> line >>>> and >>>> filling in a lot of blanks, but havent really done any more work on the >>>> Rutherford line. >>>> Happy Holidays! >>>> Jane-Ellen >>>> Quoting Arthur Rutherford <arthur.rutherford@tesco.net>: >>>> >>>>> Hello Margaret, >>>>> >>>>> We have been in contact before, but I wonder if you have unearthed any >>>>> connections to my RUTHERFORDS in JEDBURGH between 1725 and 1763 onwards >>>>> ? >>>>> >>>>> The family I am researching is : >>>>> >>>>> ANDREW RUTHERFORD married to Isobel Scot about 1750 >>>>> Their children were all born at Hundhaughlee (Hunderlee today). >>>>> George 1752 >>>>> Walter 1754 >>>>> Andrew 1757 >>>>> Robert 1760 >>>>> Thomas 1763 >>>>> >>>>> Greetings for Christmas. >>>>> >>>>> Arthur Rutherford >>>>> Poole, Dorset, England. >> ============================================================================ >> Many thanks Mike. It was helpful to receive your message. I will follow >> it >> up but my ancestors in Scotland were weavers and probably never owned land >> ! >> >> Greetings for Christmas. >> >> Arthur Rutherford ============================================================================ = Hello again Mike, My ancestors moved from Weaving to Coal Mining too ! I agree with you, it is extremely difficult to get any records around 1700 from Scotland parishes. I got ANDREW RUTHERFORD and ISOBEL SCOT's children from the LDS Film 559522 Associate Sesssion Congregation Jedburgh. The first child George was b. 2.8.1752 and C. 13.9.1752 but no place of residence. The next four children, Walter, Andrew, Robert, Thomas, all had birth dates and all Baptism dates and all at Hundhaughlee, Jedburgh. I just wonder if Andrew and Isobel were living somewhere else when George was born and then moved to Hundhaughlee in 1753/54 ? If so, I wonder what records we should search ? Could any lister in the Group give me their thoughts and suggestions please? Christmas Greetings to all who read this. Arthur Rutherford.